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NL West Notes: Blackmon, Desmond, Hedges, Dodgers

By Steve Adams | December 14, 2016 at 11:55pm CDT

Rockies GM Jeff Bridich has told center fielder Charlie Blackmon to take any trade rumors involving his name with a “huge grain of salt,” he told reporters, including MLB.com’s Thomas Harding, yesterday. “As the situation was with [Carlos Gonzalez] over the past few years, there are teams that are doing their jobs and doing their due diligence and calling on our guys,” Bridich explained. “But we have never come out and said, ’We want or need to trade Charlie Blackmon.’ I felt like he needed to hear it from me.” The addition of Ian Desmond to the Rockies’ roster only increased speculation that Bridich would look to move one of his left-handed-hitting outfielders, but the Rockies maintain that Desmond will be utilized at first base and no outfield move is on the horizon.

Here’s more on the Rox and more from the NL West…

  • At his introductory press conference with the Rockies, Desmond spoke with confidence about his ability to learn first base despite never having played there in the past, as Harding writes in a separate piece. Desmond, of course, made a pretty smooth transition from shortstop to the outfield last year, and the athleticism that allowed him to do so was a big factor in the Rockies signing him, Bridich explained. “A couple of years ago, we started talking about versatility and athleticism becoming a priority for this organization, along with getting veterans of character,” the GM said. “[Desmond] represents all of that, and that is the exciting thing.” Bridich added that there’s been “way too much” talking and planning that has gone into the decision to deploy Desmond at first base for the Rockies change course. Bridich added that his focus will now shift to improving the team’s bullpen, Harding notes.
  • Austin Hedges is “obviously … the clear frontrunner” to serve as the Padres’ primary catcher in 2017, manager Andy Green tells Dennis Lin of the San Diego Union-Tribune. The 24-year-old Hedges was rushed to the Majors out of necessity two years ago and struggled in his brief time with San Diego, but he laid waste to Triple-A pitching last season and has always had a reputation for tremendous glovework among scouts. “I think what he needs to do is take command of the team from a leadership perspective, and I know that’s very difficult when you’re short on time served in the major leagues,” said Green. “But when you’re in the catching position, the shortstop position, those are positions of authority on the baseball field where you’ve got to come in and help pitchers … and not worry about how much time you have on a major league field right now.” As Lin notes, Christian Bethancourt is the presumptive backup to Hedges, but the Friars still have plenty uncertainty permeating their pitching staff, with as many as three open rotation spots yet to be filled.
  • Bill Shaikin of the L.A. Times examines the upcoming luxury tax penalties that the Dodgers will incur following the re-signing of Rich Hill, Kenley Jansen and Justin Turner for a combined $192MM. As Shaikin points out, the new luxury tax penalties laid out in the collective bargaining agreement don’t kick in until next offseason, at which point the Dodgers will see Carl Crawford, Alex Guerrero and Andre Ethier come off the books. Those savings, plus the fact that the first wave of luxury tax increases will be gradually phased into effect, allowed Los Angeles to spend heavily without much fear of significant luxury tax penalization in the next calendar year. However, the Dodgers still are aiming to significantly decrease their payroll by the time the 2018 season concludes in order to avoid harsher draft-pick penalties that are tied to the luxury tax threshold. Shaikin’s piece is well worth a look for those wondering about some of the specifics surrounding the Dodgers’ spending habits.
  • ESPN’s Keith Law opines (ESPN Insider subscription required and highly recommended) that the Dodgers look to have gotten a tremendous bargain on their four-year, $64MM deal for Justin Turner, though he’s less bullish on the notion of giving a five-year deal to any reliever — even one as dominant as Kenley Jansen. Law notes that he had Turner pegged for a $20MM annual value over the life of his free-agent contract this winter given the elite level of play he’s turned in since signing with L.A., and the $64MM figure offers plenty of opportunity for surplus value. As for Jansen, Law writes that he’s the only reliever for whom he’d have considered a four-year deal this winter, but the attrition rate of relievers simply makes it unlikely that Los Angeles will receive more than three top-notch years from the deal. Then again, if Jansen performs at an elite level — or anything close to it — for another three seasons, he could opt out of the deal and potentially land elsewhere for his decline phase.
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  1. bravesfan88

    8 years ago

    Most closers certainly do not carry a great track record of having long, consistent careers; even so, Jansen is NOT most closers.

    Unlike most guys his age, with his experience, he does not carry nearly as many miles on his arm as his peers. Jansen truly has not been pitching all that long, and with that being the case, I think the Dodgers will at least get some solid value out of his contract.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      The other factor in Jansen’s favor is he is not a pure power pitcher. Though he can crank it into the upper 90s on occasion, we’ve seen him go through periods where 92-93 is about as hard as he throws and is still pretty effective. The only wart on Jansen is in the rare games when he’s asked to pitch in non-save situations, he’s often not nearly as effective.

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      • hollywoodhills

        8 years ago

        ” in Jansen’s favor is he is not a pure power pitcher”

        Jansen is a one trick pony. I don’t like that deal at all. On the other hand, I would have been comfortable signing Aroldis Chapman for six years. Chapman is a freak and I’m confident of his long-term success, just as I am with Cole Hamels or Zack Greinke as starters.

        I don’t expect Jansen to last more than three years and I won’t be surprised if he’s done as a top closer after two more seasons.

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        • Brixton

          8 years ago

          “Jansen is a one trick pony”
          You realize Chapman is one too? All it takes is a tick or two in dropped velo for Chapman to be Henry Rodriguez 2.0

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        • differentbears

          8 years ago

          So was Mariano Rivera. He had the same one trick as Jansen, but less velocity. Worked out ok for him…

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        • zstott26

          8 years ago

          You know there was a pitcher by the name of Mariano Rivera who had that same one trick, and he did well for himself for a long career. I think Jansen will be fine. And Chapman is quite a one trick pony himself with a trick that could go away a lot easier than a cutter.

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        • dodgerfan711

          8 years ago

          Chapmans only cling to success is he can throw really fast. While kenleys movment on pitches is what makes him so good. As soon as chapman drops to 98 he is done. And kenley has significantly less miles on him.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          All closers could be called one-trick ponies. That doesn’t tell you anything about the relative ability of any one of them to continue to perform that trick.

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        • pustule bosey

          8 years ago

          Jansen has an effective cutter but it isn’t his only pitch – which is what makes him so difficult compard to someone like chapman who it’s like – can’t catch up to it…can’t catch up to it… can’t catch up to it…. there it is! – which is why chapman is such a one inning guy.

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        • SuperSinker

          8 years ago

          Chapman would still be throwing 98 with some nasty secondaries.

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        • demdodgerbums

          8 years ago

          Did you see Chapman in the postseason? Sorry but that was 1 to many games that teams were coming from behind because they were getting to Chapman. I’d rather take Jansen in a close situation any day.

          Reply
    • lesterdnightfly

      8 years ago

      Bravesfan88: In short, you agree with Keith Law.

      Reply
  2. bravesfan88

    8 years ago

    As for Hedges, he could really put a stamp on this team with a solid upcoming season. Moving forward, Hedges and Myers could ultimately become the Padres main two building blocks, and for Padres fans’ sake, I hope both have great 2017 seasons.

    Hedges is everything a GM and coach wants out of his catcher, let’s just see if 2017 is the year where he can put it all together offensively, defensively, and from a clubhouse leadership standpoint as well!!

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    • SuperSinker

      8 years ago

      Ya the Padres desperately need Hedges’ performance in AAA to carry over at some level. It’s felt like forever since they had impact talent. Granted they traded Grandal..

      Reply
    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      8 years ago

      We’ll see how he does, but hopefully going back to AAA last year helped him out and will make him more confident for next season.

      Reply
  3. Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

    8 years ago

    I can’t wait as a Dodgers fan until the fat is finally cut off next year. Although, I can’t help but think if they signed Grienke last year there is no way they sign the trio this year. If they play this offseason right they won’t have significant holes needed to be filled through FAs next year, such can be filled internally. It’d also be nice to see a couple of the lower level RH bats develop to even out the abundance of LH bats in the system.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      I get what you are saying but I am still seeing holes to be filled now, including those RH bats. They still have some work to do this year.

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        8 years ago

        Oh there’s no disputing that at all. I just think they could be in good shape if they do the heavy lifting this year ala the Cubs last year. It’ll be interesting to keep an eye on Thompson and Barnes developing this year along with seeing whether Kikè can make the adjustment. A trade bringing Dozier or Forsythe helps significantly. Then it’s seeing if Toles and Thompson can force their way to be a regulars.

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    • norcalblue

      8 years ago

      I think you are spot on re: the decision to pass last year on Greinke and their willingness/ability to pay Hill, KJ and JT this year. I also think the decision to pay KJ and JT, in particular, was made only after realizing they had no better options. While they have done a fine job developing and holding on to young talent they have no real replacements in the system for KJ or JT. Reluctantly I suspect, the FO came to the conclusion that they had to bite the bullet and pay these guys or run the risk of taking a step backward in 2017. The good news is that the signing of KJ and JT will not block any of the real talent they have in the system.

      I am particularly excited about Alvarez, Buehler, Diaz and Sheffield and I expect one or more to really take another leap this year and emerge as top 20 overall prospects in MLB by this time next year. Bellinger is already there and he seems like Adrian’s logical replacement in 2 years–if not sooner. If we are going to trade for a 2B this winter, I am hopeful that the prospect package includes Verdugo and Calhoun. They are well-regarded prospects; but I think they can be replaced.

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        8 years ago

        I tend to agree with you on that point. Verdugo and Calhoun can flat out hit, but they are at a loss for a true position or in Verdugo’s case blocked. They are also LH in an already extremely LH hitting lineup. Verdugo seems to be an enigma because he can hit, but can he hit well enough for a corner. Seems to me Diaz has the same profile as Verdugo but is RH. It’s going to get interesting, because I think if Bellinger breaks in this year it will be in RF. It’s going to hurt to lose a bat like Calhoun, but he seems to fit better in a DH setting. I like where they’re at and what they’re doing. In the end, the way the OF has been constructed Toles and Thompson can play both a passable CF and RF giving them flexibility. Should be nice to have a bounce back bat like Thompson which could have helped significantly against LHs. Even if his his splits and BA are ugly his decline coincides with his back injury. The only question I have: Can the Dodgers convince Ethier maybe it’s time to move to the AL?

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          I don’t see Ethier having to be talked into accepting a trade to any team where he will be used in a regular role.

          Reply
  4. TDKnies 2

    8 years ago

    Still can’t believe the Rockies are serious about Desmond at first. Dude has too much defensive skill and versatility to go sit at the bottom of the difficulty totem pole.

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    • connorreed

      8 years ago

      True, but that don’t really have any other place to put him.

      The Rockies need a first baseman. You can put Desmond anywhere on the field, but he’d be a pretty significant defensive downgrade from the incumbents (LeMahieu, Arenado, Blackmon, Story, Dahl) at those positions. And he might be the most capable of learning a new position quickly.

      I’m curious as to why CarGo isn’t being moved to first, though. He’s still pretty athletic, and considering his injury history and the fact that Desmond is a better defensive outfielder at this point, that move makes the most sense to me.

      Or use Desmond as a super utility player – putting him at short, first, in the outfield, etc. They could still find a way to get him in the lineup almost every day. But I do agree that by using him solely as a first baseman, you lose the value of the versatility that he offers.

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      • SuperSinker

        8 years ago

        By playing at 1st base, you also don’t have the option of putting a less athletic player who’s a substantially better hitter (Bautista/Edwin) at 1B. I don’t see what the motivations are behind putting Desmond at first.

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        • Ray Ray

          8 years ago

          I admit that I was skeptical of the signing of Desmond at first, but I have since come around after thinking about it more. Desmond can play first in 2017 while Ryan McMahon gets his feet wet in AAA and prepares for taking over first base full time in 2018. At that time Desmond can move to the outfield to take over for CarGo (if he isn’t resigned) or Blackmon (if he is traded). Should McMahon fail, Desmond can stay at first with Raimel Tapia taking an outfield spot or he can move to the OF and a slugger for 1B can be acquired next offseason.

          Now replace the signing of Desmond with a 4 year signing of Trumbo for example. Ryan McMahon is now blocked at his two best positions of first and third. He could transition to the OF, but you also have Tapia there, so you would have to get rid of both Blackmon and CarGo to accomodate them. The 2018 OF of Tapia/Dahl/McMahon is far less acclaimed than Dahl/Blackmon/Tapia or Tapia/Dahl/CarGo especially for a probable playoff contending team.

          Signing Desmond give the team far more options than before.

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        • bhambravesfan

          8 years ago

          I think more of a trade like Story for someone like Archer. Play Desmond at SS, when Cargo leaves, call up Rogers and move Des to OF

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        • lesterdnightfly

          8 years ago

          Archer would demand about three players with the value of Story. Please, bhambravesfan — let’s approach reality here.

          Reply
  5. jdgoat

    8 years ago

    Theres an easy fix in Colorado that I don’t get why they don’t do it. An outfield of Dahl-Blackmon-Desmond and play Cargo at first. It’s not like Gonzalez is that good in the field, i think he’s actually a negative defender.

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    • Ray Ray

      8 years ago

      You can’t really judge Coors Field defense based on the numbers. The outfield in Coors is so vast that is much more space for defenders to cover than most other outfields. Defensive metrics have yet to take that into account. Just look at the metric numbers on EVERY Rockies outfielder since the beginning of the franchise. Even a great defender like Larry Walker has bad dWAR numbers. Unless you want to claim that the Rockies have never once had a good defensive outfielder in their 23 year history, you have to accept that the numbers are flawed.

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      • connorreed

        8 years ago

        But wouldn’t it still make more sense to have CarGo at first instead of Desmond?

        I checked those numbers, and it does look like Coors causes some real bad defensive metrics for outfielders.

        However, even with that being true, I still think Desmond is slightly better defensively. They both probably have similar range and speed and both have cannon arms.

        But even if we call it wash and say they’re even with the glove, I still think CarGo at first makes more sense for a few reasons.

        For one, he’s left-handed. This doesn’t make a huge difference, but still definitely an advantage at first. But more importantly, his health. Playing the outfield will take a much bigger toll on any player compared to first base. Desmond’s body can probably handle it much easier than Cargo’s could – he’s a year younger than CarGo, and in his eight year career – he’s only had one DL stint (25 days back in 2012 for a torn oblique). He’s averaged 155 games the past three seasons, and played in at least 154 games in six of the past seven seasons. Gonzalez has played in more than 150 games in one of his nine seasons. He spent a total of 150 days on the disabled list between 2013 and 2014 alone. Left knee tendinitis kept him out for nearly three months in 2014, and even though he was pretty healthy last year, he sat out in several games due to a nagging ankle injury.

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        • pd14athletics

          8 years ago

          Also OF isn’t just range. Desmond has a much better arm. Definitely think Desmond should be in the OF over CarGo.

          Reply
  6. lesterdnightfly

    8 years ago

    The Bridich Paradox:

    “’… we started talking about versatility and athleticism becoming a priority for this organization …’,” [Bridich] said.

    “Bridich added that there’s been ‘way too much’ talking and planning that has gone into the decision to deploy Desmond at first base for the Rockies [to] change course.”

    So…you pay big money, long-term, to Ian Desmond — an athletic guy who offers tons of position options — but you insist on using him at the least-demanding position in the field.

    In other words, Bridich wants flexibility, but won’t practice it himself. Got it.

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    • Ray Ray

      8 years ago

      Desmond IS a good defender and very athletic, but there are better options at short, second, third, and all three outfield positions currently. Desmond’s value will become apparent if there is a significant injury to any of the other six guys. You can then plug him into that position and only have to cover the least demanding position on the field.

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      • lesterdnightfly

        8 years ago

        So all those guys play 162, never tire, never slump, never sit against a tough pitcher, never get dinged….? Nonsense. Desmond could fill in all over the field, this year.
        Looks to me like the Rockies signed a younger version of Zobrist, but then insisted on anchoring him at first.
        Or they bought a Swiss Army Knife at top dollar, just for the screwdriver tool.
        Crazy.

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        • SuperSinker

          8 years ago

          Worth remembering that Zobrist was a much better hitter Desmond, and still is today.

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        • lesterdnightfly

          8 years ago

          Yes, that is true. But it’s all the more reason NOT to use him only at 1B, where his bat, effectiveness, and value to the team will likely be below the MLB average for 1Bs.

          Reply
  7. raef715

    8 years ago

    a 64 million bargain?

    maybe if someone had actually offered Turner more than that, and he took less to return to LA.
    sure, if he hits like he has the last two seasons through the contract it could end up being considered a bargain, but what are the chances he’s still that productive at age 34 and 35?

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  8. strostro

    8 years ago

    Justin Turner is way overrated

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    • rivera42

      8 years ago

      Dude is way underpaid is what he is. Headley got 4/52, Turner got 4/64. That’s a steal for Dodgers.

      Reply
    • dodgerfan711

      8 years ago

      No he is not. You have no clue about baseball is you think turner is over rated. His production the last 3 years has been amazing

      Reply
    • vtadave

      8 years ago

      How is he overrated strostro?

      Reply
      • BlueSkyLA

        8 years ago

        Ha. Now I get to tell you what you said to me. Don’t waste your time.

        😉

        Reply
  9. rivera42

    8 years ago

    So Law thinks that only Jansen was worthy of a 4-year deal? Let me guess, Chapman didn’t deserve it due to his domestic incident? Law’s got to let that go! The dude did his time. And guess what, Law? That doesn’t change his dominance.

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    • lesterdnightfly

      8 years ago

      If you read the original article, it may enlighten your guesswork.

      Reply
    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      Or because chapman will likely break down and Jansen won’t since he does rely on speed

      Reply
      • SuperSinker

        8 years ago

        Every pitcher relies on velocity. Every pitcher has a tipping point where they stop being successful.

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  10. jd396

    8 years ago

    If Desmond can be a good SS, and then a believable CF, I’m not worried about him getting by at 1B.

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    • lesterdnightfly

      8 years ago

      Desmond “getting by” with the glove at 1B is not the issue. He’s being wasted there instead of using his ability to play many different positions. Almost any ML-caliber athlete can “get by” at 1B defensively.
      Actually, if Desmond stays at 1B as Bridich insists, he may only “get by” because, as many have pointed out, he projects average to below-average production compared to all other ML firstbasemen.
      At $70 million, “getting by” is a horrible overspend for a mid-market team.

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      • jd396

        8 years ago

        All I was talking about was someone I heard hand wringing about him playing a new position.

        I actually get five dollars every time you use my “get by” phraseology.

        Reply
  11. OCTraveler

    8 years ago

    I’ve been a Dodger fan since 1959 and the recent owners still frustrate me – ok, we resign Hill, Jansen

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      And Turner. It’s a good start, better than I expected (or feared).

      Reply
  12. padreforlife

    8 years ago

    Love me some .180 hitter who can’t hit. He’s young and great defensive catcher so for team that will lose 100 games they have no choice. If Hedges hits .250 he could be all star.

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    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      8 years ago

      It’s a rebuilding year, so they might as well see how he does. He did look way overmatched in his last time at the major league level, but now it seems like he’s refined himself in AAA. His defense will be welcome, and if his bat can stick, it will be even better.

      Reply
  13. ripcookies

    8 years ago

    Let’s relax a little bit comparing Jansen to Mariano.

    Reply

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