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NL Notes: Sosa, Norris, Wieters, Magic, Ichiro

By Jeff Todd | February 21, 2017 at 1:53pm CDT

The Cubs’ rocky relationship with former star Sammy Sosa — or, perhaps, the lack thereof — has been well documented. But Sosa himself hasn’t been much willing to discuss it, until participating in a chat with MLBTR contributor Chuck Wasserstrom at his personal blog. Sosa admits to some mishandling of the end of his tenure with the Cubs, saying: “My intention was to finish my career in Chicago. … The only thing we cannot do is turn back time. We can’t do that. But hey, we have to move forward. I understand I made a mistake. I regret it, definitely, but I have to move on.” There’s quite a bit of interesting information for Cubbies fans to digest; you’ll want to give the interview a full read.

Here’s more from the National League:

  • Nationals manager Dusty Baker strongly hinted that the club will look to find a taker for catcher Derek Norris after agreeing to terms with Matt Wieters, as Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post tweets. “There’s always someone looking for a front line catcher,” the veteran skipper said of Norris. The addition of Wieters creates an immediate glut at the catching position for the Nats, who also employ reserve Jose Lobaton and prospect Pedro Severino. While the immediate speculation turned to the youthful Severino, who’d be a much more likely candidate to help the Nats address another need at the major league level than is Norris, he still has options and likely maintains an important place in the team’s long-term picture at the catching position.
  • Over at Fangraphs, Dave Cameron opines that the Nationals’ deal with Wieters doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. While the price is reasonable enough, says Cameron, it’s just not clear that Wieters represents a significant enough upgrade over Norris to make it worthwhile. I’d note that the maneuvering could make greater sense if Washington were instead considering parting with Lobaton, whose switch-hitting capabilities aren’t as useful with a fellow two-sided hitter joining the mix, though the above-cited comments from Baker suggest that’s not the likely outcome.
  • In his own look at the Wieters move, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports suggests that the signing was largely driven by the special relationship between agent Scott Boras and the Nationals’ ownership group. As discussed in our post on the deal, Boras and the Nats have linked up on a variety of contracts in recent years, often coming to fruition when the super agent sits down with principal owner Ted Lerner. As Rosenthal puts it, “Nats ownership … operates to its own rhythm, with Boras frequently calling out the beats.”
  • NBA legend and part Dodgers owner Magic Johnson has taken over as the Lakers’ president of basketball operations, and you can find all the details at MLBTR’s sister site, Hoops Rumors. Despite his new duties, Johnson’s role with the baseball organization won’t change, Andy McCullough of the Los Angeles Times reports (Twitter links). “Whenever we need Magic, he’s been available,” says Dodgers president & CEO Stan Kasten. “That won’t change.”
  • Marlins outfielder Ichiro Suzuki suffered a bruised knee in a collision with fellow outfielder Brandon Barnes today, as Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald reports (links to Twitter), though it was perhaps notable for reasons other than the actual injury. The ageless Ichiro is expected only to miss a few days, but did require — incredibly — the very first training-room treatment of his 16-year MLB career. Teammates used the opportunity not only to mark that occasion, but also to have some fun at Barnes’ expense. A note, signed by Ichiro, was left at his emptied locker informing him that he had been cut loose and wishing him good luck in Korea.
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48 Comments

  1. BlueSkyLA

    8 years ago

    Whenever we need Magic? Must not be often. He almost never attends Dodgers games.

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    • thebare

      8 years ago

      I see him every time the Cubs played the boys in west blue

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  2. ray_derek

    8 years ago

    Cubs fan here, Sosa can stay away.

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    • SamFuldsFive

      8 years ago

      Also Cubs fan here, come back Sammy.

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      • Kayrall

        8 years ago

        Agreed.

        +1

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    • kdavis1391

      8 years ago

      Sammy and McGuire saved the game of baseball. where were the reporters when they were “taking PEDS”? writing their stories and getting paid. same for these two home run hitters. they injected life into a sport when it so desperately needed it. the strike of 94 killed the game and these two brought it back from the dead and revolutionized the game

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      • mstrchef13

        8 years ago

        Ripken’s streak did more for baseball than the Sosa/McGwire home run chase.

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  3. OCTraveler

    8 years ago

    Having Magic in the Dodger front office makes as much sense as naming Tommy Lasorda GM of the Lakers.

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    • frankiegxiii

      8 years ago

      Money’s money

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      • therealbdavis

        8 years ago

        And he loves LA teams. >.>

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    • mcdusty31

      8 years ago

      He’s more of an ambassador than anything really

      Reply
  4. MB923

    8 years ago

    Pretty impressive that Ichiro is being treated in the training room for the first time at age 43.

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    • Ully

      8 years ago

      Totally agree!

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      • whereslou

        8 years ago

        Hope he signs a one day deal to retire as an M. I wish he was still here understood why they let him leave but he needs to retire an M and go into the HOF an M.

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  5. A'sfaninUK

    8 years ago

    “There’s always someone looking for a front line catcher,”

    A guy who had a .583 OPS in a full season last year who is owed over $4 million isn’t exactly front line or even remotely considered an asset. Sorry Dusty, the Nats made a dumb move by trading for a bad player with zero value.

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    • Phillies2017

      8 years ago

      It wasnt a bad move. They gave up little to nothing in acquiring him and had a glaring hole behind the plate at the time. Nobody could have predicted Wieters price falling the way it did.

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      • InPolesWeTrust

        8 years ago

        Plus, Dusty is somewhat correct. They’ll find a taker for one of their backstops. Give it a week….

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      • User 4245925809

        8 years ago

        20m is nothing for a guy whose career has been on a tumble since really before the surgery? Boras must have pulled out a new book of lies and deceit for this one, or nat’s front office is more gullible than ever after the papelbon fiasco. to fall for this.

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      • A'sfaninUK

        8 years ago

        It was a bad move because the Nats acquired a bad hitting bat-first catcher (aka a worthless player who had less than 0 WAR last year) and gave up a prospect for him, when they could have had him for actually-nothing.

        Where have you been? The Nats have been attached to Weiters for YEARS at this point.

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        • bitterpadresfan

          8 years ago

          How excited must you be to have another opportunity to bag on Derek Norris? Guy was an all star and has improved defensively. He had a bad year last year but he’ll end up being a bargain for whoever he ends up with.

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        • lesterdnightfly

          8 years ago

          By JAFan’s guidelines, the Nats are apparently being run by “old people”. Derek Norris must be one too.

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        • jakem59

          8 years ago

          I’ve never seen a “Bat-First” catcher grade out as an above average defender and pitch framer.

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    • bleacherbum

      8 years ago

      Yeah Preller pulled a rabbit out of his hat by being able to 1. Get out from under the 4 million owed to Norris this year and 2. He actually got a decent looking arm from WAS back in return, not to mention clearing the way for Hedges to be the everyday guy.

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      • A'sfaninUK

        8 years ago

        Agreed, Preller might have straight up released Norris he’s so unbelievably bad at all facets of the game. The guy isn’t a big leaguer but for whatever dumb reason “warm body” types are still getting MLB jobs over more deserving guys in the minors.

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        • bleacherbum

          8 years ago

          Couldn’t agree more, I watched every game last year and between how miserable it was to watch him, Ramirez and Rosales strike out as much as they did and just get over matched by everyone in the process was pitiful. Fall behind 0-2 or 1-2 every single at bat and then swing at a sweeping slider in the left handed batters box was the norm watching Norris last year.

          The prospect we got back isn’t on our top 30 or highly regarded but he is a potential bullpen arm who had nice numbers in AA last year with mid 90’s stuff, we would have taken anything like you said because we would have probably just cut him so to get anything back was a win, not to mention it saved over 4MM for next year which ultimately pays for 3/5’s of our pitching staff.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          8 years ago

          Trading Norris didn’t save anything cuz we didn’t owe him anything and Adam Rosales had an .814 OPS last year. That’s better than Wil Myers. Did Myers get overmatched by everyone too? You are wrong about these things just like you were wrong about Rymer Liriano not being out of options.

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        • bleacherbum

          8 years ago

          So if the Padres would have non-tendered Norris they wouldn’t have owed him anything in 2017 and he would have been allowed to walk?

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          8 years ago

          That is correct. But by trading Norris, the Padres still aren’t paying him a single penny in 2017 AND get back a guy with a greater than zero percent chance of helping the Padres out at some point down the road.

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        8 years ago

        He didn’t get out from under anything owed to Norris. He traded Norris to WAS and then they tendered him a contract. If he hadn’t been able to trade Norris he would have non-tendered him. We never owed Norris anything beyond 2016.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      8 years ago

      You are Pads Fans’ other account

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      • Mozzarella

        8 years ago

        lol it’s definitely him.

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  6. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    8 years ago

    Norris is awful, Wieters is better than awful.

    Not sure what is confusing Dave Cameron.

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    • seamaholic 2

      8 years ago

      Norris was awful for one incredibly unmemorable season in San Diego. His career stats are nearly identicacl to Wieters’, is two years removed from a 119 OPS+ season, and he’s a better defender and younger. I don’t think it’s Cameron that’s confused.

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      • bleacherbum

        8 years ago

        Yes he was and he was pretty bad for the majority of 15′ as well. The only memory I have of him on the club that stands out is the walk-off grand slam against Pittsburgh that year.

        The only gripe I can give him is that his all-star year of 2014 came primarily because he was used sparingly and effectively by Bob Melvin. He split time with Vogt, Norris and Phegly I believe which ultimately kept Norris fresh for the entire year and his numbers supported that. I remember they did an article in the local paper in 2015 that Norris had lost like 16 pounds in the first 2 months of the season from catching everyday and his power numbers took a huge drop coupled with that.

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        • bosox90

          8 years ago

          Norris started 96 games at catcher that year, next was Jaso with 47 and Vogt with 8. Phegley was on the White Sox. Wouldn’t say he was used sparingly. He was pretty good in 2013, great in 2014, his final numbers in 2015 were fine for a C, and he bottomed out in 2016. Seems like a perfect change-of-scenery bounce-back. I think he’s absolutely worth spending $4mil and a lottery ticket prospect to get.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          8 years ago

          Josh Phegley and Derek Norris never played for the A’s at the same time. Norris’ 2015 was a step back from 2014 but he still led all Major League catchers in doubles and shook off concerns about his defense.

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        • bleacherbum

          8 years ago

          That’s fine, I’m happy with the decision to see what Hedges can do. Norris is a classy guy and was a fan favorite the last couple years in SD despite the struggles. I hope he does bounce-back just as much as I hope Hedges is a stud.

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  7. 24TheKid

    8 years ago

    I’m hoping Ichiro signs a special contract at the end of the year to retire with Seattle, but now I’m thinking he’s going to play forever.

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  8. lowtalker1

    8 years ago

    ain’t no one going to trade for Norris…
    he is triple a bound

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  9. Aaron Sapoznik

    8 years ago

    Per a Jason Stark tweet:

    “Matt Wieters is the 11th Scott Boras client on the Nationals! Almost half the roster – but about two-thirds of the payroll (over $110M)”

    As Ken Rosenthal already opined earlier today, the Nats are “Team Boras”. lol

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    • bleacherbum

      8 years ago

      Don’t forget in recent years they have also had Rafael Soriano, Denard Span and last year Danny Espinosa. All Boras clients, I’m a Padres fan and every time the Nats come to town Boras is leaning on the B.P. cage as if he is an executive of the team. It’s comical.

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      • Aaron Sapoznik

        8 years ago

        Yes. The Nationals will probably be all over another Boras client, White Sox southpaw Carlos Rodon when he is eligible for free agency following the 2021 season…especially if he lives up to his promise as a potential Steve Carlton “clone” with his wipeout slider. Rodon’s performance has been similar and even exceeded the Hall of Fame pitchers numbers at this early stage of his career, particularly with his SO/IP ratio.

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  10. bosox90

    8 years ago

    Billy Eppler should be all over this, if the price for Norris is cheap. Norris had a tragic .238 BABIP last year (career .291). His OPS was .754, .763, and .709 from ’13-’15, which is solid offensive production from a catcher. Great bounce-back candidate. Also has had success in the AL West, with his all star season coming in Oakland in 2014.

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  11. Priggs89

    8 years ago

    While I know the popular thought in regards to a White Sox trade for Robertson involves Severino + another prospect, I think Norris could actually make some sense (surprisingly). With Norris, the White Sox could probably get a better prospect back than if they were to make a trade with Severino involved, and they wouldn’t have to eat as much of Robertson’s contract to get that better prospect since they’d be taking Norris’ contract off the Nationals hands. The White Sox also have absolutely nothing at catcher right now, so they can afford to let Norris do whatever he does.

    Best case scenario, he rebounds, and they can ship him off for another prospect at the deadline. Worst case scenario, he’s still awful and helps them lose, and they add a solid prospect to the system (hopefully Soto). Just a thought.

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      8 years ago

      It’s a solid argument, although I still maintain that Pedro Severino could help solve the larger White Sox issue of poor system wide catching. After all, if Norris gets flipped at the deadline the White Sox would be back to square one behind the plate.

      The White Sox already have a summer flip candidate in veteran Geovany Soto. If Severino was acquired in a package for Robertson, he could start out the season at AAA Charlotte with that elite young pitching staff, two of whom he is already familiar with…Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo Lopez. When the organization is ready to begin promoting some of those pitching candidates this summer Severino could join them, having already caught those prospects for half a season in AAA.

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      • Priggs89

        8 years ago

        I don’t disagree at all. Severino makes a ton of sense from the Sox perspective. The Norris idea was more of a workaround to try to get something done, especially if the White Sox are hesitant to eat a lot of Robertson’s contract.

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  12. seanwh01

    8 years ago

    Weiters to Tampa Bay made so much more sense.

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  13. Sweet Home Chicago

    8 years ago

    “When nobody knew who Chicago was, I put Chicago on the map.” -Sammy Sosa

    Wow…just wow.

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