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East Notes: Braves, Walker, Bird, Holliday, Headley, Jays

By Jeff Todd | July 5, 2017 at 2:17pm CDT

As the Braves continue to hover around .500, David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution looks at their approach to the coming trade deadline. Atlanta has played well of late and is now welcoming back slugger Freddie Freeman, which perhaps gives some cause for optimism. While a postseason berth still seems a tall task, the club may well choose to avoid a sell-off after entering the year with the stated aim of being more competitive. O’Brien explores some ways in which the team might deal a few veterans while still sustaining (or even improving) the quality of the current roster — in particular, by looking into trades for controllable starting pitching.

Here’s more from the eastern divisions:

  • The Mets are seeing some progress from second baseman Neil Walker. Per James Wagner of the New York Times, via Twitter, Walker is taking balls at second base today as he begins to work back from a significant hamstring injury. It still seems unlikely he’ll be ready to return before the trade deadline, though his large salary makes him quite a plausible August trade piece as well.
  • It seems there’s still quite a bit of uncertainty surrounding Yankees first baseman Greg Bird. As Bryan Hoch of MLB.com writes, GM Brian Cashman says that Bird’s longstanding ankle issue could end up requiring exploratory surgery. That possibility is just that at present, however, as Bird himself suggests that he’s in no rush to go under the knife. Cashman noted that the organization is doing everything it can to determine the cause of the ongoing pain Bird is experiencing. Given his questionable status, among other factors, the team seems to have a rather obvious deadline needs at first base.
  • Veteran Matt Holliday could conceivably contribute at first base, at least on a part-time basis, but he too is on the DL. There’s good news on that front, as Meredith Marakovits of the YES Network reports on Twitter. Holliday tells her that he finally received a diagnosis for his illness — it’s viral in nature — and is now feeling better.
  • Whatever happens at first, the Yankees do not seem presently inclined to make drastic changes across the diamond, as MLB.com’s Matthew Martell writes. “Who do you want me to play there?” Cashman said when pressed about the status of third baseman Chase Headley. “Headley’s our third baseman. Sorry you don’t like it.” There’s probably still room for the team to consider alternatives in the trade market, of course, though a significant upgrade may be tough to find. Headley owns a serviceable .255/.347/.373 batting line, right in line with his work since landing in New York, and has generally rated as a steady enough defender. He’s also owed $13MM this year and next.
  • While Blue Jays president Mark Shapiro said yesterday that he still wants to improve the team’s roster in the near-term, Jon Morosi of MLB.com writes that “multiple executives around the Major Leagues” think the Jays will end up selling. A few deals involving pending free agents wouldn’t be a surprise, of course, but Morosi suggests there’s potential for more significant pieces changing hands — though it’s not clear from the report whether any sources from within the Toronto organization view that as a real possibility. The Cardinals have internal interest in star Blue Jays third baseman Josh Donaldson, per the report, though that hasn’t resulted in any trade talks to this point. Surely, plenty of other teams feel the same way about Donaldson and other core Jays performers. If Shapiro is to be taken at this word, a true rebuild isn’t really under consideration, though perhaps some lateral moves for younger or more controllable players could still be entertained.
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64 Comments

  1. realgone2

    8 years ago

    Braves need to stay the rebuilding course. Trade anything that isn’t going to be there next year

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    • angelsinthetroutfield

      8 years ago

      I think a move for Quintana makes sense for them. Their farm system strength is more depth that one or two blue chip guys so I feel like they can afford to give a bit more to get a young, controlled, ToR arm.

      Reply
      • billysbballz

        8 years ago

        But but but why?
        Quintana hasn’t been that good this year and why would we trade two blue chip prospects for him when he is not the difference to being Astros, Boston, or Cleveland!
        The only fans that want us to trade prospects for Q are white sox nation, uninformed fantasy arm chair Yankee fans, and trolls!

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          So well put! The same fans(questionable at best)who bring up Adams to the Yanks.

          Reply
        • angelsinthetroutfield

          8 years ago

          which are top of the rotation arms though? Q is that, he’s been shaky to this point but he’s a quality 2-3 pitcher and I don’t see many braves prospects that are future aces

          Reply
        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          wasn’t he talking about the braves and not the yankees?

          Reply
        • tharrie0820

          8 years ago

          Allard, soroko, wright

          Reply
      • roberty

        8 years ago

        Quintana is basically a left handed Teheran. The asking price will be way more than he’s worth, especially considering our farm is stocked with guys with way more upside who will be ready in a year or two.

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      • rocky7

        8 years ago

        Another way over the top Quintana proposal….

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    • MakeATLGreatAgain

      8 years ago

      Basically this

      If we have all these young guys in the Minors, it’s time to start using them instead of trading them.

      Reply
      • petfoodfella

        8 years ago

        Pitching depth rules all. Braves have said they don’t want to rush them to the minors like they did with some last year. They have the depth.

        But they’re not just rebuilding right now. Maybe if they had lost another 10-12 games at this point, but they’re technically not that far out of the race.

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      • bigjonliljon

        8 years ago

        Ask the mets how well that strategy worked out

        Reply
        • davbee

          8 years ago

          It worked out well enough to get them to a World Series.

          Reply
        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          So do you consider a 2 year competitive window to be working out well?

          Reply
      • daruba

        8 years ago

        Beachy, Merlin, minor

        Reply
        • daruba

          8 years ago

          Medlen**

          Reply
        • antonio bananas

          8 years ago

          do you guys honestly think “proven” MLB pitchers are that much more of a sure thing?

          Reply
        • daruba

          8 years ago

          For Quintana to throw 200+ innings plus postseason availability for the 5th consecutive season and beyond starting right now this year, as opposed to 19 year olds who threw career highs of 90 to 140 innings last year? Yes

          Reply
        • Bruin1012

          8 years ago

          Yes

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      • Braves Homer

        8 years ago

        You trade a couple ‘prospects’ for a proven commodity like a Quintana, Archer, Gray etc. It’s good flipping if you trade some maybes for a sure thing.
        The Braves nor any organization is going to have full rotation come out of minors at once, not possible anymore…
        I’m still waiting on the Teheran, Delgado Vizcaino or the ^Beachy, Medlin, Minor Rotations they kept telling us to hold our breaths for…

        But I do agree there’s no point in doing it for a pitcher right now because this make-shift offense we all are loving is in their mid 30s and will be gone in 2 years flat.

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  2. NicknewsomeATL

    8 years ago

    Hopefully the braves can deal dickey and Garcia and get some alright pitching. Folty is doing well and despite last night Newcomb has been really good too. Teheran will be Teheran.

    Reply
  3. Bald Vinny

    8 years ago

    “There’s a virus called Epstein-Barr virus that I tested positive for,’’ the Yankees designated hitter said….

    nypost.com/2017/07/05/matt-holliday-finally-knows-…

    The Epstein–Barr virus, also called human herpesvirus 4, is one of eight known viruses in the herpes family, and is one of the most common viruses in humans.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epstein%E2%80%93Barr_virus

    Yikes.

    Reply
    • metseventually

      8 years ago

      Isn’t that mono?

      Reply
      • CompanyAssassin

        8 years ago

        I don’t believe so, but I wanna say they’re similar

        Reply
      • atlbraves2010

        8 years ago

        it is not directly mononucleosis, however, it is one of the most common, if not the only(?) viral pathogen that can cause it.
        one of the big problems with EPV however, is that there is evidence that links a higher likelihood of future autoimmune disease to the EPV. Namely, MS, Sjogrens, and rheumatoid arthritis.

        Reply
  4. NicknewsomeATL

    8 years ago

    Hopefully the braves can trade dickey and Garcia and get some good pitching. Folty and Newcomb (despite last night) have been good and Teheran will be Teheran.

    Reply
    • El Duderino

      8 years ago

      You’re playing too much of The Show if you think Dickey and Garcia nets more than fringe prospects.

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    • RandyRocks77

      8 years ago

      I’d keep Dickey.. Trade Garcia while his trade value is high and bring up Kris Medlin

      Reply
  5. thegreatcerealfamine

    8 years ago

    Love Cash’s response. Headley can be eased out next year. Remember they are ahead of schedule on the rebuild while being hit with devastating injuries. They do not need any large ticket items in trades just stay the course,because next year is the start of something special again in the Bronx.

    Reply
    • InPolesWeTrust

      8 years ago

      That’s a good point. They’re coming back down to earth and BCashman seems to be staying the course. If the Yanks can get a 1B on the cheap, he pulls the trigger.

      Reply
  6. cardsfan1988

    8 years ago

    So if the Cards actually are talking Donaldson, I’m not sure what they would want in return but sure it wouldn’t be cheap. I figure it would be Bader, Weaver to start plus probably 1 or 2 more from there top 30 prospects…if not more. I’m sure Toronto will still ask a very steep price even in a Donaldson down year

    Reply
    • jimmertee

      8 years ago

      The price for Donaldson would be huge. I don’t see him going anywhere. The current Jays mgmt regime doesn’t seem to be able to pull off the big deal. I hope I am wrong. I would like to see a total housecleaning and rebuild. Tulo, Bautista, Estrada, Goins, Liriano, Martin, Happ, Sanchez, etc all should be on the table. The only untradeables on the Jays are Pillar, Stroman, and Osuna.

      Reply
      • sports101

        8 years ago

        Agreed, but I’d add Travis to that no move list he’s a great player I want to see what he can do in a full healthy season before we trade him for scraps and regret it later, also why would we trade Sanchez? He’s young and incredibly talented unless we’re trying to load up for the vladdy era that would be a huge step back, and in which case we should deal Stromae, pillar, and osuna too

        Reply
        • jimmertee

          8 years ago

          Hey, Travis is a great hitter, I think that he is a little weaker on defense compared to Goins or Barney becuase his knees cannot take the pounding on the turf. He cannot get to balls that they can and they both have shortstop arms compared to his 2nd base arm. I think travis will only be successful on grass.

          As for trading Sanchez, it might be an al leiter situation. They will eventually figure out the finger/blister issue but I hear that there is more to go timewise to getting this right. Once he is back and doing awesome, I would trade him and let the next team figure it out. He might be out continually for a while longer. It would be sad to lose him becuase he is so good, but the finger problem will be a problem. Plus he is a scott boras client which means the Jays are guaranteed to lose him once he hits free agency.

          Reply
  7. inkstainedscribe

    8 years ago

    Yankees. Matt Adams. Just sayin’.

    Reply
    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      Stop it please. Just sayin.

      Reply
    • jjdunckley

      8 years ago

      The Braves also have a great hitting 3b named Freddie Freeman. We want all the prospects though, all of them. Lmao. Sorry, I couldn’t resist. I actually don’t mind this experiment with Freeman and hope the Braves keep Adams around. As everyone points out, the team “sucks” and it’s not going to hurt anything. If they want to trade the rental guys, so be it. But guys like Adams and Kemp aren’t hurting anything on a team that has admitted to being happy just getting by. In 2-3 years, if they’re still making the same bad signings or trades, then I worry as a fan. This year and next, let’s just have fun and see what happens.

      Reply
      • MakeATLGreatAgain

        8 years ago

        I want to be closer to winning next year. They need to actually be trying next season while preparing for 2019 and 2020.

        Reply
    • roberty

      8 years ago

      The Yankees farm is stocked and they don’t necessarily need to rely on youth to win. Though they have suffered some unfortunate injuries, I think they match up perfectly with the Braves for an Adams trade. I don’t understand all the Braves fans acting like it’s a terrible idea.

      Reply
      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        I’m a Yankee fan and know it’s a terrible idea!

        Reply
        • roberty

          8 years ago

          I’m a Braves fan. That’s why I want it to happen! I think the Yanks would be better off with Alonso.

          Reply
        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Definitely but Billy would want too much.

          Reply
        • rocky7

          8 years ago

          Alonso having a career year after a bunch of single digit homer years with 50 or so Rbi’s and a .240-.250 batting average….what do you do when you mortgage the farm for him, which would happen with BB, and he falls back to earth next year.

          Reply
        • tharrie0820

          8 years ago

          why do you think it’s a terrible idea? Adams has shown in the last that when he actually gets consistent playing time, he can hit. which he has shown when he got traded to the braves and got to olay every day. he would provide good value for a low cost. why is it such a terrible idea?

          Reply
      • ob32

        8 years ago

        Yankees only have hitting depth

        Reply
        • dobsonel

          8 years ago

          Seriously? I think you need to pay closer attention.

          Reply
  8. rmullig2

    8 years ago

    The Yankees should look to sell now before their assets begin to lose value. Start with Gardener and Pineda. Maybe CC and Tanaka if they are will to waive NTC. Getting rid of Ellsbury would be a dream come true but not feasible at this time.

    Reply
  9. terry g

    8 years ago

    After the ASG is when it will get busy. I can see teams waiting until just before the 31st, though as the .500 teams in the AL decide to go or no.

    Reply
  10. cardfan2011

    8 years ago

    Unless they’re actually in trade talks to get Donaldson, i don’t believe it. Interest is one thing, a whole bunch of teams are “interested”, it’s another thing to actually attempt to get him.

    Reply
  11. CompanyAssassin

    8 years ago

    Cards trade for donaldson… right. That’d take the majority of our top prospects.

    Reply
    • Cardinals17

      8 years ago

      Isn’t Donaldson having a down year?????

      Reply
      • sports101

        8 years ago

        He’s injured, he’s knee looks banged up when he tries to hit, clearly playing through the pain considering he’s already been out earlier this season, if he wasn’t injured he’d be having an amazing season when he came back from his first injury he hit like 5 bombs in like 3 games or something like that

        Reply
  12. troll

    8 years ago

    donaldson’s best years are probably past. no need for cardinals to overpay to get him.

    Reply
  13. timyanks

    8 years ago

    brandon belt may be available. st louis would do better to trade for him. then, flip carpenter somewhere.

    Reply
    • Wainofan

      8 years ago

      Grichuk, Bader, kelly and low ball pitcher prospect for Donaldson

      Reply
      • frontdeskmike

        8 years ago

        Would you take that if you were the Jays?

        Reply
  14. Wainofan

    8 years ago

    Depends on how they value grichuk, Carson kelly and bader and who the pitcher is. Flaherty or alcantara, probably yes.

    Reply
    • timyanks

      8 years ago

      too much, way too much

      Reply
  15. 917-455-7678

    8 years ago

    AT the end of the trade deadline, I pray that Chase Headly is no where to be found… and Bour is at first base… Messiah13X

    Reply
  16. Tayman Hawke

    8 years ago

    Will everyone just relax already. Stroman and Sanchez aren’t going anywhere. Neither is Osuna. If anything the Jays need to finally stretch him into a starter. If the Cardinals are actually serious about Josh Donaldson? Then the talks should start with Carlos Martinez and either Reyes or Weaver.

    Reply
    • jimmertee

      8 years ago

      I hope Osuna and Stroman aren’t going anywhere. From what I hear Sanchez finger is going to be a pain and his agent more of a pain [scott boras]. I hope Sanchez is traded along with all the other older vets on the team. Full rebuild please!

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      • AvidAstrosFan

        8 years ago

        Stromen could net some outstanding Astro prospects… I would love to hear the trade talk between those 2 GM’s. The likelyhood is slim to none as with teams that have great players and prospects it’s very difficult to let them go, for fear of coming up on the lesser end of the deal.

        Reply
  17. Gary Rogers

    8 years ago

    Possible trade with Yanks Teheran,Adams,Inciarte and Suzuki FOR Severino,Sanchez,Fowler and Acevedo.

    Reply
  18. garrog1949

    8 years ago

    Braves should trade Pache,Wentz,Wisler,B.Wilson and Seymour FOR A,s Gray.

    Reply

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