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NL East Notes: Strasburg, Rizzo, Hill, Marlins, Neshek

By Mark Polishuk | July 23, 2017 at 8:16pm CDT

Stephen Strasburg left today’s game between the Nationals and Diamondbacks after just two innings.  Manager Dusty Baker told MLB.com’s Jamal Collier (Twitter links) and other reporters that the star right-hander was removed as a precautionary measure after Strasburg couldn’t get loose.  No tests are scheduled for Strasburg when the team returns to Washington, though he will be examined by team doctors.  “An achy forearm [and] general tightness” is how Strasburg described his injury to the media (including Collier), and the righty said that he preferred to leave the game when he did before the problem turned into something serious.

Here’s more from around the division…

  • Nationals GM Mike Rizzo isn’t planning to look for outfield help before the trade deadline, Rizzo told media (including MASNsports.com’s Mark Zuckerman).  Jayson Werth, Michael Taylor and Chris Heisey are all on the DL, and Ryan Raburn is on bereavement leave, putting the Nats in a tight spot for outfield depth.  Still, Rizzo believes the club has enough depth to hold up without any external additions.  “I think we have confidence in the guys we have, and as long as the core of our lineup is healthy and hitting on all cylinders, I think we can make it through until Jayson and Michael get better.  I don’t see that being too far of a distance,” Rizzo said.
  • Marlins president of baseball operations Michael Hill stated two weeks ago that his team wasn’t looking to move any core names like Giancarlo Stanton, J.T. Realmuto, Marcell Ozuna, Christian Yelich, Justin Bour and Dan Straily at the deadline, and Hill reiterated that stance today.  “It’s not stopping calls from coming in,” Hill tells Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald.  “It’s been fairly consistent, with people checking in to see where we’re at to see if we may be open to expanding the players we’re talking about. But we haven’t put any of those guys in play.”  Hill did note that the team is open to discussing its relievers in trade talks, as evidenced by their trade of David Phelps to the Mariners earlier this week and the significant buzz around closer A.J. Ramos.
  • In an open letter to Jeffrey Loria, FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal (via his Facebook page) asks the Marlins owner to “free Giancarlo Stanton” by trading him before the team is sold.  Such a trade, Rosenthal reasons, would help all parties involved — the Marlins would get some quality prospects, the new owners would get Stanton’s enormous contract off the books, Stanton himself would get to join a contender, and baseball itself would see one of its biggest young stars in a most positive environment.
  • The Cubs and Dodgers recently had scouts watching the Phillies’ Pat Neshek in action, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick reports (Twitter link).  Both teams have been known to be looking at other relievers, so it isn’t any surprise that Neshek is on their radar.  Neshek, widely expected to be moved before the deadline, has been linked to several teams — Chicago and L.A. are the newest names on a long list that includes the Nationals, Royals, Red Sox, Yankees, Brewers and Rays.
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  1. JP8

    8 years ago

    Boston is out of prospects but adding Stanton to their lineup would be a coup. Most of their players are top or bottom of the lineup hitters and Stanton could be a force in the middle. Nothing left to give now…

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    • 67redsox

      8 years ago

      You’re right on your last point…there ain’t much left to give. As for Stanton…there’s no money left under the luxury threshold. Not only has DUMBrowski bled the farm system dry, he’s maxed out on salary.

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    • Connorsoxfan

      8 years ago

      Also who would they move? Betts, Bradley, and Benintendi is a good outfield group for years. Unless you just want him to DH, which I guess is a possibility.

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      • JP8

        8 years ago

        yes DH

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        • downeysoft42

          8 years ago

          He’s a solid defender, waste of using him at dh, better off using that cash and prospects for machado and try to resign him

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        • TheGreatTwigog

          8 years ago

          Idk if he would be ok with that, remember he can veto trades

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        • holecamels35

          8 years ago

          Three. Hundred. Dollar. DH.
          There’s bad value and there’s bad value. Just wouldn’t make sense unless they move an OF and move salary.

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        • holecamels35

          8 years ago

          300M DH seems a bit excessive?
          There’s bad value and there’s bad value. Just wouldn’t make sense unless they move an OF and move salary.

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          Yeah sure Baltimore has been waiting for Boston to call…..

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          Great. Business. Move. There’s value and then there’s value. Do you know how many people come to see Judge/Stanton take BP??? The money and hype he would draw in a top market is nearly impossible to think of? The way the salary cap is moving in football who knows where it could go in baseball? Stanton could be a bargain if you dropped the WAR and loomed at it from an owners perspective.

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        • Ungerdog

          8 years ago

          Boston doesn’t need Stanton to “draw fans”. It would be a very bad business move considering they already have a great young outfield – as stated previously…

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    • rascalking

      8 years ago

      You do realize that Dombrowski isn’t entirely to blame for lack of talent in the farm right? A lot of it has made its way to the big team in the forms of Bogaerts, Betts, Bradley, Vaazquez….and that’s just the fielding crew. You have to take that into consideration. If those players manning the MLB team means less talent in the minors then fine by me.

      Also, a lot of the pieces moved were redundant due to the expectations that most of those players were blocked by the young talent playing in Boston.

      But hey, keep up that silly narrative that he dumped ALL the minor league talent….

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      • JP8

        8 years ago

        I never said he was…..

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    • Pilzbrydroboy

      8 years ago

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  2. beyou02215

    8 years ago

    The Marlins should trade Stanton and that contract if the opportunity arises. To hold onto him on what will be a rebuilding team would be folly.

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    • baines03

      8 years ago

      Because of that contract, though, Stanton won’t bring back what fans are expecting.

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  3. willi

    8 years ago

    The Phillies , Yankees and the Dodgers are going to be at the Landing Place for Stanton , But in the end he goes to NY !

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  4. stymeedone

    8 years ago

    Does Rosenthal really see excess value in Stanton’s contract? What team is going to give up quality prospects while also taking on that salary? How much of that salary would Miami have to include just to get mid level prospect back?

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    • bravesfan88

      8 years ago

      You’re underestimating what all acquiring Stanton would bring to a franchise…Not only most likely a sizeable jump in ticket sales, but quite a bit of merchandise and jersey sales as well…

      If he’s traded, best believe regardless the Marlins will still get back a fairly sizeable haul..

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      • cards81

        8 years ago

        You’re underestimating the option he has which makes the contract worthless…so why would a team give up prospects for taking on a contract that might screw them both ways

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      • Cam

        8 years ago

        Sizeable jump in ticket sales? The Red Sox average just over 36,000 per game this year – capacity is just over 37,000. Are you going to float the extra fans in the air or something?

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      • thebare

        8 years ago

        He’re is a trade to look at Cubs get Stanton and prospect Wright there former #1 two years ago hasn’t pitched yet . Marlins get Candela, Heyward to off set contract a little and Baez/ great deal for both teams.

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    • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

      8 years ago

      It’s not far off from what he’d get in free agency

      Reply
  5. ReverieDays

    8 years ago

    Another year, another Strasburg injury.

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    • ray_derek

      8 years ago

      Another year, another overworked pitcher by Dusty Baker.

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  6. chitownsox11

    8 years ago

    I think trading Stanton would be one of the worst moves the new owner of the marlins could make. They already have trouble drawing with Fernandez and Stanton gone, who are they going to watch?

    Your first move as the new owner should not be cutting cost and trading a fan favorite. No a good look, especially when loria did that all the time.

    Rosenthal is dumb. I guess every team that can’t contend every season like the dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, angels etc should just trade their good players because why should marlins fans have any good players to enjoy.

    His article is what is wrong with baseball. Think an article like this gets written about a Cubs, dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, angels player in their prime? No way in hell.

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    • JP8

      8 years ago

      you list the angels, cubs, and redsox and those 3 teams have each had terrible seasons in the last 5 years and stormed back in turn by investing in the farm and trading from the major league roster. Very few teams compete each and every year. I have no idea what Stanton would bring back, but rebuilding/ retooling has to happen with teams and although Miami has done it many times the new ownership will inevitably have to do it again.

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      • chitownsox11

        8 years ago

        Only the Cubs rebuilt and behind the rebuild is also $160 million payroll. Don’t act like all rebuilds are created equal.

        When have the Yankees, Red Sox, angles, tigers, etc. had a fire sale? Marlins have players in their prime not in the last year of a contract. Big market teams do not trade players like ozuna, yelich, Stanton, bour, Gordon.

        Only team I can think of is the white sox with sale, Quintana, and eaton. Everyone praises hahn when in fact he did terrible because if the sox added they could have been competeing this season. Not had a much of maybe for 2020 and three guaranteed bad years of baseball endured before.

        Mlb needs a hard cap like the NHL and NFL extremely bad.

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          Baseball has more parity than the other sports, and by the way football does NOT have a HARD cap.

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        • comebacktrail28

          8 years ago

          If we didn’t have one of the worst owners and added a few bats we would be in 1st place instead he Spent 50mill on Dwayne Wade to play 50games

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          Parity that is laughable. NBA and MLB have teams tank. NFL teams more or less go for it every season and more or less same in the NHL. Mlb NBA teams actively try to loose.

          You can say what you want but the difference between the haves and haves nots is huge in baseball.

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          Just hold on, once the sale goes through if the new owner gets some top baseball minds in and let’s them build the team, Miami will contend again.

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          Thank you another sox fan who realizes the rebuild was not the best thing ever for the sox.

          So many sox fans are acting like it’s just a formality that the sox won the 2021 World Series. They will be luck if any of these players brought back are the talents that sale, quintana, and eaton are.

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          I guess you don’t watch football then, because numerous articles have been written about the jets tanking this year and the colts sure as heck tanked before the Luck draft, but believe whatever you want; Its your story, it can say whatever you want it to.

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          Colts didn’t tank manning got hurt and the jets haven’t even played a game yet. This year alone in the mlb: the padres, reds, white sox, phillies, and Athletics.

          You named two teams in like a 5 year period with teams tanking and I don’t believe they even truly intend/ inteneded to tank an entire season

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          playing bad isn’t tanking and I named obvious documented cases. Look believe what you want but the facts don’t show that a salary cap changes anything. A team must be well run to win GB, NE or poorly run CLE, OAK (till Reggie McKenzie came) from GB BTW. Redwings vs Panthers in hockey its easy to see, not everyone is equal, we are all equal as human beings. Hard lesson people refuse to believe nowadays.

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          Which of those baseball teams is not tanking? And if you think spending has no correlation to winning in the mlb you are dead wrong.

          And there is a difference between being bad and poorly run and actively trying to loose. The white sox, padres, reds, athletics are not trying to complete and had no desire to try from the outset of the season. Same as many NBA teams. That is bad for sports.

          The raiders while bad and browns are not trying to actively loose. They have just made some bad choices over the years, but they will try to put a winning product on the field.

          Mlb took a step in a right direction with international spending caps. Why do you think they did that? Because teams got tired of the dodgers, Red Sox etc out spending and getting players like moncada.

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        • biasisrelitive

          8 years ago

          yes it dose have a hard cap lol

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          are all NFL teams caps the exact same…. no….. not a hard cap

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          Dodgers rings lately??? correlation does not equal causation

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          They making the playoffs? Do you have to make the playoffs to win the World Series? Your argument is pointless.

          Tell me the last mlb team to win the World Series in the bottom third in payroll.

          Yes payroll matters in mlb. There should be a cap and floor.

          Also, NFL teams caps are different because they can rollover unused cap. Also, there is a salary cap floor in the other leagues, not the mlb.

          There needs to be some type of cap and floor. Clearly your back and forth with me shows you are a fan of a big market team and do not know much about sports in general

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        • Russ P.

          8 years ago

          Competing this season…stop it!!! Hahn has brought in 7 of the top 100 prospects in baseball, in 2-3 tops they will be the new astros and one of the best teams in baseball!! With three of those prospects being in the top 20, and two of those(monceda #1 and Jimenez #5) being top 5 prospects in all of baseball….Not to mention Kopech #20 has frontline starter stuff as well as unranked prospect Cease who was drafted in the 6th round(cubs 2014) knowing he had to get tommy john.

          In two years time the white sox will be one of the most exciting teams in baseball, duplicating the Cubs and Astros rebuilds by trading major league talent for top prospects….not holding on to some pipe dream and getting bounced in the division series!!!

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        • davidcoonce74

          8 years ago

          Royals, two years ago. NFL has a hard cap, and yet every year we get to watch Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. The NBA has some sort of salary cap and the same four teams win every year. The NH has a salary cap and we just watch the Blackhawks every year. Salary caps put more money into the coffers of the owners. That’s all. They are a blatantly unfair barrier to freedom of movement and employment. The owners are all billionaires. Nobody ever went to a baseball game to watch an owner.

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        • mannyl101

          8 years ago

          No salary cap! It’s ruined the NBA! The White Sox, like the Marlins are a joke in ownership & management! I don’t get it, & that’s where a good commish comes in handy! So far, this guys about making money & is blind to ownerships!

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          its not a hard cap ffs its a soft cap, just Google does the NFL have a hard cap and read the article

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          Nice try, royals were 16th in payroll. I said bottom third. The penguins just won back to back cups in the NHL not the Blackhawks.

          Also, I said there should be a floor to force owners to spend a certain amount every year, but you seem to have chosen not to read that.

          And using the blackshawks is like using the giants 3 championships in six years.

          Your arguments are laughable. I use FACTS.

          Every other league uses some type of floor and cap in their sport. It’s not right to have the dodgers spend $260 million and the athletics spend $75 million.

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          You stop it. You act like all these prospects are going to turn out great, not get injured, etc.

          There is no sure thing in hahn’s plan except bad baseball this season and probably a couple more. Players like Chris sale with his contract usually never get traded.

          Look at Rodon, Anderson, fulmer in the minors. Not so great.

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        • Ezzed Stun

          8 years ago

          Mark Cuban will by the Marlins. He will then rename them the Miami Cubans.

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        • Ungerdog

          8 years ago

          2016
          14th ranked payroll cubs went 7 games with 24th ranked Indians.
          2015
          16th Royals beat 21st ranked Mets
          2014
          7th ranked giants went 7 games with 19th ranked Royals
          If you paid attention to baseball, you’d know that teams that perennially contend (like the 14 and 15 Royals) do so at the cost of a rebuild such as the Sox are embarking on now. payroll does not equal success.
          check this out – one article of many arguing this very point

          abcnews.go.com/Sports/checking-facts-yup-mlb-great…

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    • chesteraarthur

      8 years ago

      “His article is what is wrong with baseball. Think an article like this gets written about a Cubs, dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, angels player in their prime? No way in hell.”

      Have you been living under a rock? There are countless articles about the LAA trading trout to restock their farm system every year.

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      • chitownsox11

        8 years ago

        No one takes an articles about trout serious? No way angels trade trout

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    • cards81

      8 years ago

      Ok don’t trade Stanton…I would rather have Ozuna or yelich

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      • chitownsox11

        8 years ago

        I wouldn’t trade them either

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          So you want to trade nobody of value, but you expect the team to improve how?

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          Spend for maybe the first time in franchise history. Marlins have been bottom five in payroll every season. Eventually you have to pick a time and go for it with financial support otherwise there is no point.

          Ozuna is the only core player I would listen to offers for because he has two years left and is a boras client. But if I’m talking to the cards it would start with Reyes and more.

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        • shelteredsoxfan

          8 years ago

          I don’t get it. You want teams to spend more but have a hard cap? If anything a hard cap in MLB reduces spending

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          No I want the marlins to spend more payroll barely $100 million. And that’s with them in a “contending year”. Would love to see what a contending Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, etc team with $100 million payroll.

          I think there should be a salary floor and a salary cap. The closer the teams are to each other in total dollars spent the more parity there would be.

          Of course dodgers Yankees and Red Sox fans will hate still because they love to be able to just out spend their competition.

          So yes if the marlins are ever going to try to compete you need to increase payroll to a level that your competition is at. Their payroll is nowhere near the nationals. Could they be completing with them if they spent and extra 40 or 50 million like them? You better believe it.

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          good luck getting the players to agree to a cap and the owners to agree on a floor all so you can feel better about lorias lack of spending

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          Loria is on the way out. Never said it was going to happen soon, but it is what would be best for parity.

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        • chitownsox11

          8 years ago

          Also, no need to keep arguing with someone who thinks mlb has more parity than any other league. That’s is laughable. Teams actively try to loose in the mlb, and that is bad for the league period.

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        • Cam

          8 years ago

          And they don’t in the NFL and NBA? Tanking is everywhere. There are also a number of studies done on parity in major sports – the MLB stacks up well. But don’t let that get in the way of your story.

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        • davidcoonce74

          8 years ago

          MLB has as much or more more parity as any other sport. 7 different teams have won the world series in the last ten years.

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        • JP8

          8 years ago

          This one is beyond facts. Probably doesn’t even know the Marlins have 2 rings and were started in the 90s

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    • comebacktrail28

      8 years ago

      I’m a Sox fan and couldn’t agree more

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  7. everlastingdave

    8 years ago

    First Yelich’s getting packaged with Stanton just to dump Giancarlo’s deal. Now Stanton by himself has enough trade value to bring back real prospects? What were they supposed to be getting back from Philly, all their players and all their money?

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  8. start_wearing_purple

    8 years ago

    What exactly is Stanton worth on the open market? As of next year he’s essentially a 10 year $295M commitment. But he’ll be 28 so the back half of his contract looks less like a potential albatross than other long term contracts.

    Maybe 2 top prospects plus some other decent prospects? Or just one top 10 prospect plus more.

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  9. cards81

    8 years ago

    lol I like how the Cubs are interested in pretty much all trades but everyone knows they have nothing to trade for besides from their major league roster…sounds like Epstein is doing nothing but keeping Cubs fans entertained

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    • JKB 2

      8 years ago

      Oh how the cardinals fans envy the Cubs. So Epstein is keeping Cub fans entertained because someone reports something. Is Epstein giving press releases on who they talk to? Of course not.

      And the Cubs have Plenty to trade in the farm for middle relievers. Dream on Cardinal fans. Sorry but the Cubs are just better then you now and for years to come

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  10. Dodgers13

    8 years ago

    Neshek would probobaly cost the dodgers one of their top prospects, probably Alvarez. And since the phillies have nothing much else to offer, the dodgers won’t likely make a move for neshek.

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  11. tealmarlin

    8 years ago

    Ken Rosenthal can go and suck some balls.

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  12. Backatitagain

    8 years ago

    Just wondering if the Nationals would be interested in Kurt Suzuki, Matt Kemp and Jason Motte for Pedro Severino and Andrew Stevenson.

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    • majorflaw

      8 years ago

      No. Nothing in that package would be attractive to the Nats.

      They’re already seen from close up that Suzuki adds nothing offensively or defensively. And getting stuck with Kemp’s contract (iirc he has a few high priced years left) isn’t desirable. With Werth presumably gone next year they’d like to move Eaton to left, which means either some combination of Taylor/Goodwin, Robles, or going out and getting someone. That CF someone isn’t Matt Kemp. Why would the Nats give up two of their better, albeit not elite, prospects for that package? Suzuki and Kemp are gonna be the difference makers who carry the Nats to a championship?

      Severing and Stevenson are both ‘gettable’ if you’re so inclined. But you’ll have to do much better than that.

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  13. waltergoverniii

    8 years ago

    F U Ken Rosenthal. Stanton should stay. He’s guarenteed big bucks plus will be young enough for another mega deal at the end of this contract. Signed NJ Marlin Fan. (PS i realize the Marlins are viewed as a glorified Minor League Team, but the only wayto change that is to keep its stars) So F U Kenny!!

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