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Yankees, Athletics In Talks On Yonder Alonso

By Jeff Todd | July 18, 2017 at 8:23am CDT

The Yankees and Athletics are discussing possible trade scenarios involving first baseman Yonder Alonso, according to MLB.com’s Jon Morosi. There’s no indication, at this point, that a deal is particularly likely to materialize, though it’s easy to see how the teams could line up.

Indeed, the potential match between Oakland and New York has long been speculated. But a firm connection had not previously been established. The former has had eyes on the latter’s farm system of late, Ken Rosenthal reported yesterday on Twitter, suggesting that the sides could see a potential path to a swap of some kind.

As both reporters noted, it seems that righty Sonny Gray would also make for a sensible target for New York, though it is unclear at this point whether he has been the focus of any discussions between the organizations. There’ll be loads of competition for Gray, but he would help fill a need both now in the future for the Yanks.

It’s quite a different situation with regard to Alonso, who has morphed into an offensive force this year. There are several other quality first basemen who’ll likely be available — Lucas Duda of the Mets and Matt Adams of the Braves perhaps representing the most obvious options — and few contenders that have a clear need at the position. That seems to leave the Yankees in rather a strong bargaining position.

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  1. MB923

    8 years ago

    If it’s just for Alonso , I wonder would the A’s ask for?

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    • billysbballz

      8 years ago

      Not a hell of allot for a rental 1st basemen in this market.
      Maybe Austin Decar who has a big arm and high upside plus a Tyler Austin or Jake Cave.
      I could see the Yanks also sticking with a Choi/Cooper platoon which so far has looked good in the field and decent at the plate. I wouldn’t bother with Alonso unless it’s to help clear out some minor league roster spots.

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      • ElGayoLoco

        8 years ago

        Why dont the yankees ask the Phillies for their first basemen, Joseph I think his name is I think hes a good hitter a decent fielder and he could be good til Bird is healthy next season

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        • sacball

          8 years ago

          Tommy Joseph comes with over 5 years of control…you would literally have to unload your best prospects to get him

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        • Jon Edwards

          8 years ago

          Tommy Joseph is also not very good, so no, it wouldn’t take any top prospects to get him regardless of length of control.

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        • ElGayoLoco

          8 years ago

          Yeah agreed, yanks probably only have to give up lightwork and some cash for him, hes a good home run hitter and a decent fielder, hes a good option for an American league team, face it even when greg bird gets healthy next season he’ll probably be in the DH spot a lot

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        • DannyQ3913

          8 years ago

          36 homers in a year of full play. That’s not good?

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Maybe because there is more to baseball than just HR’s? Chris Carter led the NL in homers last year with 41, and he’s not that good.

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        • unsaturatedmatz

          8 years ago

          qohohoho. It’d take around Tyler Austin and an arm like Drew Finley. By no means is that best prospects.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      Here comes the flood of A’s fans one sided scenarios. I’m torn on getting Alonzo..
      1. The Yankees aren’t gonna go far even if they make the WC.
      2. Young long term starters should be priority one.
      3. These injuries they’ve experienced are almost catastrophic,but hopefully those players will be back in the Spring.
      4. Late 2018 and starting in 2019 when everyone is together is when the run starts.

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      • billysbballz

        8 years ago

        I agree Cheerios 100%! But I can see the Yanks trying to show the fans they are contending but not giving up any high end prospects, maybe a few guys with upside like I mentioned but otherwise makes no sense.

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      • A'sfaninUK

        8 years ago

        Someone from the Yankees top 10-15 prospects is about right for Yonder…if you think that’s “one sided” then you need to just get off this site.

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Sounds fair. What’s the A’s biggest need as far as prospects go? If it’s position players, either IF or OF, Yanks can surely help out. Yankees have some decent pitching prospects but I think they should be holding on to as many as they can.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          That’s not bad,although still torn.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          Beane said yesterday he’s only interesting in getting the prospects with the highest risk/reward (like the 19 year old he got from the Nats), not from need.

          Clearly the A’s need OF and C depth, but it doesn’t sound like Beane cares about that right now.

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        • ryanmesick

          8 years ago

          the fact people “vote down” your logical and correct statements is funny to me.

          Then again, I saw an ESPN comment section in which a fan wrote the A’s are “constantly rebuilding under Beane” (despite the fact, you know, during Beane’s 20 years the A’s have won 6 Division Titles, made 8 postseasons, won 20 straight games, and won 74 games or more every year from 1999-2014. In fact, the A’s 2016 and 2017’s draft picks, both 6th overall, marked the first time since the A’s selected 9th overall in 1999 that they had picks that high. All of which equates to the post 2014 WC loss being the A’s first “proper rebuild” under Billy Beane. Can’t really “Rebuild” when the A’s have made the playoffs once every three years under Beane’s tenure.) Moral of the story, the fan that wrote that got like 50ish likes, for a completely false and incorrect narrative, as is the nature of our current culture.

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        • ryanmesick

          8 years ago

          hahahahaha and my straight facts and proper perspective of the situation gets a “down vote!”

          Have to love this current culture, as so many bright minds/sheep now have internet connections 🙂

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        • Drewnasty

          8 years ago

          I don’t agree with that assessment at all. The Yankees have a top 5 farm system in all of baseball. Most of their Top 10 is on BA top 100 so more of the 15-20 would be fair for a rental in Alonso, especially given the fact that this is the first time he has put this sort of season together. The A’s have every right to ask for higher but I wouldn’t expect Cashman to give up that high of talent for just a rental.

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        • El Duderino

          8 years ago

          I down vote you because you’re whining about down votes. Fair?

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        • ryanmesick

          8 years ago

          I’m simply turning to the historical record to dispel caricature and uncover the truth.

          Too much for many to handle.

          To reiterated: during Billy Beane’s 20 years the proud Oakland A’s have won 6 Division Titles (up their total to 16 Division Titles and 4 World Championships in Oakland since 1968, both the best out West over that time frame) made 8 postseasons, won 20 straight games, and won 74 games or more every year from 1999-2014.

          In fact, the A’s 2016 and 2017’s draft picks (both 6th overall) marked the first time since the A’s selected 9th overall in 1999 that they had picks that high. All of which equates to the post 2014 WC loss being the A’s first “proper rebuild” under Billy Beane. Can’t really “rebuild” when you are making the playoffs once every three years.

          Be careful not to spit against the wind my friend.

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      • raysdaze

        8 years ago

        Don’t think Pineda will be back next spring, unless he’s on the A-Roid program…

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        • chiggie

          8 years ago

          idiot

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        • therealryan

          8 years ago

          Honestly, Pineda is exactly the type of arm I expect to see the Rays in on this offseason. A one year with an option deal similar to a Chase Whitley Evoldi signing.

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      • rycm131

        8 years ago

        Historically speaking Beane seems to always take two 5’s instead of a 10 hoping one of the group will be good. I know what he said recently, so someone in the 10-15 prospect range would seem about right. If this was his old mind set it might be 2 or 3 guys at
        The tail end of the top 30 prospect list or completely not on the list

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      • bradthebluefish

        8 years ago

        Totally agree. Grab some bench players and make a go at it. Don’t mortgage the farm.

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    • Drewnasty

      8 years ago

      What is crazy is that the Yankees are the only real contender looking for 1B help at the moment, so the leverage is all theirs. So I wouldn’t expect them to give up a ton especially when there are a few suitors out there that can fit their needs

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      • myaccount

        8 years ago

        Or, if the A’s don’t get an offer to their liking, they could hang on to Alonso and try to extend him. Although there’s no first round compensation for QOs anymore, perhaps they would decide a 3rd round comp pick is more worth it than trading him for beans. I’m not convinced the Yankees have all the power here.

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        • bradthebluefish

          8 years ago

          Alonso has been horrible for over a month now. Who knows if he’s truly an All-Star. I wouldn’t trade much for him.

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  2. Matt Galvin

    8 years ago

    OF?

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  3. tenman85

    8 years ago

    I think the Yankees can pull off a deal without giving up any great prospects. Someone like Acevedo would probably be enough.

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    • pro4pro32goathletics

      8 years ago

      Yeah, I suppose this could do it. The Gray deal is going to be the big one, adding a promising pitcher in a Alonso trade like Acevedo, would please me as an A’s fan.

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      • atellis33

        8 years ago

        Not happening.

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          You have to give up talent to get talent. If you want Gray, then somebody has to go.

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    • billysbballz

      8 years ago

      Acevedo happens to be one of the Yanks top pitching prospects that made futures game. I don’t think that deal makes a ton of sense, do you?

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      • tenman85

        8 years ago

        The Yankees 1st basemen have been struggling all year and there aren’t many options. I think the recent 30 game stretch has only made this problem tougher to deal with. I feel like Oakland realizes that they have negotiating power at this point. I’m not sure if that’s the hold up on a deal like this happening or if they’re trying to get Gray as well?

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      • A'sfaninUK

        8 years ago

        He’s in the Yankees top 10-15 prospects, please dont overvalue him because he played in the futures game, that’s an arbitrary game.

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  4. crazysull

    8 years ago

    Probably Rutherford

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    • crazysull

      8 years ago

      Maybe even Hicks

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      • billysbballz

        8 years ago

        Why stop at Rutherford, maybe the top five prospects.
        Lol
        Here we go is right!!!!

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          Estaban Florial is the more obvious target, 1-1 for Alonso, fair deal for both sides.

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        • YankeeMan3099

          8 years ago

          Yanks are trying to expand the deal to get both Alonso and Gray which is the smart thing to do.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          Not smart if you’re trying to hold onto your top 5 prospects!

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        • YankeeMan3099

          8 years ago

          Can’t keep them all something needs to be done here.

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          I think Florial for Alonso is a fair trade.

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        • koz16

          8 years ago

          I don’t think that 70 games of the mediocre Alonso is worth a career of Florial. Take away Alonso’s three good weeks in May and he’s batting .260 with a .440 slugging percentage. Other than that one month he’s been pretty mediocre for his entire career.

          If they Yankees trade Florial they can do better than an Alonso 70 game rental.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          lmao my god buy a clue

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        • cubsfan2489

          8 years ago

          Getting both would not cost their top 5 prospects. Ever

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Keep in mind Florial is an OFer. If somehow everything goes right, the Yankees OF the next few years may be something like Judge, Frazier and Fowler (if he returns fully healthy). Also have Rutherford as well. I wrote below that some of their good prospects may be blocked by other ones and there’s really no where to put him, so it’s best to trade some of the guys why their value may still be high .

          Like how Theo traded players like Castro, Soler, Torres, and Jimenez.

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        • koz16

          8 years ago

          Sure, but not for a rental.

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      • pepesilvia

        8 years ago

        Lol hicks

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    • YankeeMan3099

      8 years ago

      Yankees will get Alonso and Gray together doesn’t make sense to just get Alonso and not expand the deal to include Gray but we will see.

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    • MurderersRow27

      8 years ago

      Rutherford is their #3 prospect… No way in hell he’s used in a trade for Alonso. I guess you can keep dreaming though.

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      • jpkinney7

        8 years ago

        A’s can keep Alonso and receive a 1st Round Comp pick in the 2018 Draft (Pick 31-40). So prospect would need to be fairly legit coming back from the Spanks.

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        • darkstar61

          8 years ago

          @ jpkinney7

          That is true only if Alonso signed with a new team for more than 50 million tho, correct?

          If I remember that right, I don’t know if it is a safe assumption at all by the As to expect a Comp-Pick

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  5. bigz51

    8 years ago

    Gotta think a class a guy with a lil upside will get it done

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  6. A'sfaninUK

    8 years ago

    Beane said yesterday he was targeting the most high upside/high risk or best players possible for his trade pieces, he’s not looking positionally, which stinks because the A’s are so barren for OF and C prospects, but I’m guessing a top 10-15 guy for Alonso, being that he’s really good on both sides and costs basically nothing moneywise.

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    • koz16

      8 years ago

      Alonso is terrible against lefties even in this his career year.

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      • Ken M.

        8 years ago

        It’s not like there are tough lefties to face in the AL East.

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        • Michael Birks

          8 years ago

          Chris Sale?

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Death is trolling

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  7. aussiegiants53

    8 years ago

    Do the Yankees want Brandon Belt?? I like the dude but happy to move on from him…

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    • billysbballz

      8 years ago

      Yes will Cave, Refsnyder, and Austin do it?

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      • MB923

        8 years ago

        Refsnyder is worthless dude. Wish they had given him a chance in 2015 over Drew but he’s had some chances the past 2 seasons (though not as an everyday player) and he’s done awful. Both at the plate and fielding.

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      • A'sfaninUK

        8 years ago

        Geez would you knock off putting Refsnyder and Austin in your trade proposals? No one wants them. They’re valueless junk.

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        • atellis33

          8 years ago

          Tyler Austin is relatively young and there’s some upside. I wouldn’t say he’s valueless junk. Your opinions are pretty close to valueless junk though.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          So are every Yankees fan opinion about their own prospects. The Yankee prospect Hypetrain has been going full steam since Brien Taylor.

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        • atellis33

          8 years ago

          With one of the best farm systems in the league, I wouldn’t say the Yankees fan opinion on prospects is junk.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          lmao can and will. You are clueless.

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        • Just John

          8 years ago

          Having a good farm has nothing to do with that farm’s fans opinions being junk or not.
          And arguing that EVERY fan of any team is a poor choice of words and is just incorrect.
          This argument should be done. Stop making me scroll so much

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    • Little Whirl

      8 years ago

      I doubt the Yankees are interested in going in on somebody like Brandon Belt, who is signed through 2021, at this time. It could be spin, but Brian Cashman remains high on Greg Bird as far as the future goes, & a rental 1b to help with the postseason push seems to be the most sensible target. If Bird’s health issues persist into the offseason, I would think New York could reassess the position at that time when the marketplace is more theoretically stable.

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      • sacball

        8 years ago

        so what you’re saying is Greg Bird is already better than Brandon Belt? lol

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        • hodor 3

          8 years ago

          No, that Cashman values Bird more in terms of being cheaper and potentially just as good or better in the future.

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  8. dtrainriotmaker

    8 years ago

    I’m not a Yankees fan but Alonso has had one good year this year , otherwise not that good . I would pass and look elsewhere

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    • A'sfaninUK

      8 years ago

      Do you know who else has had one good year this year? Aaron Judge.

      Please learn about the players and know the WHY they are good, dont just look at stats. Alonso is a beast now, deal with it.

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      • MB923

        8 years ago

        Aaron Judge is a rookie who had played in just 25 games with 97 PA prior to this year. Yonder Alonso played in 664 games with over 2300 PA prior to this year.

        I’m not saying Alonso’s stats this year won’t be sustainable for the rest of the year but you shouldn’t be comparing a guy in his 2nd year to a guy in his 8th year

        Alonso may or may not be a “beast” but he isn’t long term controlled and shouldn’t cost more than a top 10-15.

        For whatever reason if Aaron Judge was on the trading block, he’d bring back a much bigger haul than Alonso, and I know you know that.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          You’re ignoring that Judge made the EXACT same adjustment Alonso did, and Judge never tore up the minors, matter of fact John Sickels had him #10th overall on his Feb 2017 NYY prospect list as a B/B- prospect.

          Face it: He made changes this offseason, to remarkable results. Now clearly Judge hitting flyballs instead of liners is going to have better results than Alonso doing that, but this is the new revolution in the game, and both players are a part of it. Alonso is a safe bet to be an .850-.950 OPS guy until his bat speed declines, and Judge is going to be a .950+ OPS guy for a long, long time.

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        • YankeeMan3099

          8 years ago

          Did you know Manny Machado is married to Alonso’s sister lol I know it doesn’t mean anything but just a fun fact.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          Yes, reading the backstory of how Alonso retooled his swing is so interesting, Cano, Machado, Valencia all helped him out.

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        • koz16

          8 years ago

          Look at Alonso’s splits this year. Other than the month of May he’s still the same old Alonso.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          He’s got an .893 OPS over his last 10 games, doesn’t look like same old Alonso to me.

          Dude, cherrypicking stats? Come on, are you like 12 years old? You just dont do that.

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        • ctc46

          8 years ago

          Judge is also already 25. That’s old for a rookie.

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        • K_Man915

          8 years ago

          Bashes someone for cherry picking a 3 week stat line, follows it up by cherry picking a 10 day stat line…

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        • koz16

          8 years ago

          Cherry picking? How many years has Alonso been floundering in MLB before having one good month this year?

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          @ctc46, So what? He’s still one of the best players so far this year and quite possibly could win MVP.

          There’s been several stars over the years that didn’t become stars until later in their career. Until the age of 28, David Ortiz never had higher than a 1.1 WAR in a season. Jose Bautista never reached a 2.0 WAR until the age of 29 in 2010 (His career WAR going into that season was 0.6). Edwin Encarnacion never reached a 2 WAR until 2012 at the age of 29.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Trouble is one of those had a little helper!

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      • atellis33

        8 years ago

        Cannot compare Judge’s situation to Alonso’s situation…. are you serious?

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          Both players got extremely good within 1 offseason.

          Judge was a B- prospect at the start of this year who was destined to be a .230 hitter with 30+bombs a year, now he’s Mike Trout.

          Oh, but of course, he’s a Yankee so this was the plan all along, right? Riiiight. SMH.

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        • bronxbombers

          8 years ago

          Judge has a history of struggling at first and then adjusting according to the league at every level in the minors.

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      • djdeb

        8 years ago

        Just Another Fan is high if he thinks Alonso brings back a top 15 prospect. Maybe in another system but not from nyy’s.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          Yeah cool Yankees fans telling me I’m high – the team with the top 4 out of the top 5 biggest prospect busts in history know more about them than me. Surrrreeeee.

          baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=32278

          LOL Yankees fans reallllly need to stop talking when it comes to prospects, yall hype them to the next level its so ridiculous.

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        • CompanyAssassin

          8 years ago

          Also its pretty much universal the Yankees prospects are a certain caliber. Alonso keeping up this play is not. If you want to talk overhyped, you’re pretty much the definition right now.

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Montero was a bust with the Mariners. Brien Taylor basically suffered a career ending injury, and I don’t understand why Drew Henson, a 3rd round pick, is the biggest bust of all time. He was a 3rd round pick who decided to retire after just 8 games played in the bigs and went back to play in the NFL. Yankees gave him a extension after they drafted him, but due to retiring he gave up a lot of his earnings.

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        • vtadave

          8 years ago

          You really think Drew Henson was your normal everyday 3rd round pick?

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        • ryanmesick

          8 years ago

          THIS!

          Amazing the hate you receive for having a factual and spot on perspective.

          Study up trolls and be careful not to spit against the wind!

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      • CompanyAssassin

        8 years ago

        You’re dumb to compare Alonso to Judge.. I don’t even like Judge really, let alone the Yankees. Some players hit the majors and just figure it out. Alonso has a much longer history than Judge. By your logic of because he’s doing well now, makes him a permanent “beast” does that make some like Manny Machado (who I also don’t like) a permanent subpar player? Don’t go after people for “cherry picking” very valid stats. If anyone is cherry picking its you bro. You just want to hear someone say Alonso will get a huge return. Let’s be realistic here.

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      • cubsfan2489

        8 years ago

        No, he’s not a beast now, nor has he been except for the month of May.

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      • ottomatic

        8 years ago

        Dude just stop talking. You’re embarrassing yourself

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  9. southi

    8 years ago

    If you’re talking about giving up a 10-15 range prospect, wouldn’t it make more sense to do so for Matt Adams than Alonso? Adams has another year of control and could possibly be dealt this off season (if the Yankees don’t include him in their 2018 plans) there by off setting some of the acquisition cost.

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    • A'sfaninUK

      8 years ago

      Adams has had no experience in the AL and would get instantly exposed. Alonso much safer bet to OPS .900+ and play really good defense at 1B.

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      • MB923

        8 years ago

        It’s Pitchers who are the ones that have difficultly in the AL, not position players.

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          Not always!

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      • darkstar61

        8 years ago

        .870 – April
        1.228 – May
        .786 – June
        .821 – July

        As others have indicated, those are his OPS by month this season

        Could he post a 900+ moving forward? Sure, but… well it’s not a safe bet

        Not that I’m saying Adams is def going to, but at least he’s overall posted 900+ OPS lines the last 1.5 years, not just 1 month

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      Sorry..no on Adams(for so many reasons),same goes for Murphy of the Phillis.

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      • southi

        8 years ago

        My thoughts on Adams are only in comparison to Alonso if you were paying the same price.
        Their OPS+ numbers are similar for this year (with Alonso having a slight advantage) and also career wise (with Adams having a slight advantage). Both are expected by many to not maintain current production levels and both have cooled somewhat of late (Alonso cooling much more so than Adams has over the last couple of months). Both have issues with left handed pitching historically. The biggest difference maker to me is the extra year of control that Adams has.

        Personally I don’t think that the Yankees should pay a 10-15 range prospect for either one (like many in these comments have suggested), but after looking at all the facts if the price was the same I’d much rather have Adams than Alonso at this point.

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  10. Connorsoxfan

    8 years ago

    I could see a mega deal where they take Alonso, Gray, and Lowrie. Not sure how Headley has been doing at 3rd recently but he was horrible earlier and I haven’t seen anyone raving about him recently. That fills both corner infield positions and relegates Headley to the bench, and they pick up a good starter. Yanks definitely have the prospect capital to get that done and still have a really good system, it’s just a question of if they are willing to pay the price. If they add those 3 guys, and maybe a reliever for cheap, depending on matchups they might just push to the ALCS.

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  11. mitchj4444

    8 years ago

    Florial Acevedo and Mateo for gray and Alonso seems like win win for both teams.

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    • LADreamin

      8 years ago

      That’s light on the return going back to the A’s. Deadline pitching acquisitions are expensive, especially TOR.

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    • MB923

      8 years ago

      I think Yankees would have to include at least one other player.

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    • eze01

      8 years ago

      Another team will easily beat that offer

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  12. del_got_it

    8 years ago

    Beane wants prospects that’ll be MLB ready in 3 or more years so they can grow a contending team in new park. So if its just for Alonso, be ready to cough up Estevan Florial or Nolan Martinez. But if its Sonny and Alonso, be ready to give up both those guys plus Blake Rutherford and a few lower level guys.

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    • A'sfaninUK

      8 years ago

      Pretty much this.

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  13. SupremeZeus

    8 years ago

    Alonso doesn’t move the needle. The Yankees simply don’t have the healthy horses to be one of the best teams this season. Unless the cost to fill short term needs is a bag of balls, the Yanks might as well keep their powder dry and roll with what they have and focus on next season.

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    • hodor 3

      8 years ago

      That’s what I believe Cashman is thinking of doing. Contending this year is very likely fool’s gold.

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  14. mattgarcia2324

    8 years ago

    Gray and Alonzo for Jorge Mateo, Domingo Acevedo, Nick Solak, Ian Clarkin. Maybe one other top guy like Blake Rutherford or Andujar.

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    • driftcat28 2

      8 years ago

      I’d do Andujar before Rutherford

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  15. driftcat28 2

    8 years ago

    As long as it’s for no major prospects, I.E Frazier, Torres, Rutherford, and Adams then sure

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    • YankeeMan3099

      8 years ago

      Yanks won’t trade Frazier or Torres that’s why if you read the article yesterday the A’s know this and have been scouting the Yankee system and looking at other guys.

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    • ctguy

      8 years ago

      Agreed. If the A’s want any of the top 4 or 5 then they can trade Alonso & Gray to a different team. I really don’t think adding those 2 will make the Yankees a contender this year. Better to just make any necessary moves in the off season.

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    • MB923

      8 years ago

      If you’re talking about for Alonso straight up, then yes I certainly agree. But if Gray is included, at least 1, possibly even 2 of those guys will be gone.

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  16. mike156

    8 years ago

    Just don’t do it, Cashman, if it costs anything substantive. I love the new direction–the younger players with athleticism already on the roster and the potential down on the farm. It’s been 20+ years since the Yankees offered their fans potential. It’s exciting.

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    • MB923

      8 years ago

      Generally I agree, but they are going to lose many players eventually in the Rule V draft. A lot of their young players play positions that May be filled for the next several years. If they have no long term future, it is best to trade them and get at least some value back than to lose them in the Rule V draft and get nothing in return.

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      • mike156

        8 years ago

        Ok, but if that’s it, then maybe try to find someone with an additional year of control? Alonso would require a 40 man spot as well

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        • MB923

          8 years ago

          I never said they had to go for Alonso. Of course he can use them to get other players under multiple years of control as well such as Gray or Cole if he’s available.

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  17. pinballwizard1969

    8 years ago

    Beane better hurry up and work out a deal with Cashman for Alonso because if Cooper has a few more games like he did last night the Yankees may move on from looking for a rental for 1B for the remainder of this season. And concentrate bullpen help.
    Gray’s a possibility, in my opinion for the SP if Beane would look at Rutherford & Mateo as the headlines of a deal. Yankees aren’t going to give up Frazier OR Torres.

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  18. jg_916

    8 years ago

    The Yankees absolutely DO NOT need Sonny Gray. He can hardly stay healthy, would cost a boatload of high end prospects and the Yankees already young starters to look at the rest of this season so as to determine what they want to do going forward.
    Montgomery and Severino are under control for years. Sabathia can be resigned this off season for a short term deal for a more reasonable salary. Tanaka has a buyout but he’d be foolish to exercise it. After that, they have Cessa, Mitchell, Green, Chance Adams, even the kid who pitched last night–Caleb Smith, a lefty–who showed some promise.
    This is a transition year for the Yankees. Cashman and crew will have a great deal of work to do this off season with too many outfielders and all the prospects who should be ready real soon and will need playing time at the MLB level so as to develop.
    Therefore, let someone else overpay for Gray.

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    • pinballwizard1969

      8 years ago

      Why would you dismiss Gray out of hand without even knowing what ultimately it would take to get him. As for the prospects/rookies you mentioned none of them and that includes Adams have the same upside or potential as Gray. I’m not saying Gray is the be all end all but he deserves consideration.

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  19. jpkinney7

    8 years ago

    A’s can keep Alonso and get a 1st Round Comp Pick in the 2018 Draft (Pick 31 thru 40). So the return better be comparable to a 1st Round Pick + Low Level Prospect.

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    • pinballwizard1969

      8 years ago

      I might be mistaken but to get that compensation pick the A’s would have to make him a QO estimated to be about $18MM. Do you believe they would do that? Because if I’m Alonso I take the $18MM QO.

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      • southi

        8 years ago

        Alonso would be very thankful if Oakland gave him a QO and would almost assuredly accept it quickly.

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        • pinballwizard1969

          8 years ago

          I agree. A QO to Alonso makes almost no sense for the A’s.

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      • darkstar61

        8 years ago

        As I said above, I believe he would also need to get 50+ Million on the market on top of that 18+ million QO he’d have to turn down to get the As the comp pick.

        Do you think he will get 50+ Million on the market if he turned down the 18million?

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        • pinballwizard1969

          8 years ago

          I don’t think Alonso will get either the $18MM QO or $50MM via FA.

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        • darkstar61

          8 years ago

          Exactly, and I have a feeling both the A’s and Alonso similarly feel that is at least pretty likely if not guaranteed (that he won’t get 50, and he accepts if somehow offered 18 so A’s wouldn’t)

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  20. therealryan

    8 years ago

    I can see the Yankees making a move for Gray and Alonzo. A package of Rutherford (55 FV), Sheffield (55), Wade (50) and Widener (45) is the type of offer I would expect. Two 55s, a 50 and a 45 would be a solid return for the A’s and it gives the Yankees a controllable TOR pitcher for the next several years, plus fills a hole as they attempt to hang on this year. The A’s get an MLB ready MIF, a high upside OF, a near MLB ready mid rotation LHP and a SP flier who has looked solid.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      WOW…Just WOW

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      • therealryan

        8 years ago

        What exactly does your comment mean? Are you excited because you think this is a great deal for the Yankees? Or unhappy because you think the Yankees are better off punting this season and buying pitching on the free agent market? If it’s the former, hope the Yankees and A’s get together and make it happen. If it’s the latter, you stated above that you think the Yankees should target young cost controlled pitching and Sonny Gray fits that bill. He’s 27 and is controlled through the 2019 season. The Yankees also would get a bat that helps to fill a hole they have this season. A season in which they currently hold the final playoff spot.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Gray yes,Alonso no. That is just way too much and they are ahead of schedule. Some Yankee fans don’t want any top 5 prospects traded for Gray,but I differ..be it now or the offseason,which he might come cheaper. This team even with those two you suggested has too many flaws to realistically get a playoff spot.

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  21. pspahn

    8 years ago

    I know BB said what he said, but I’d still like to see any new players that aren’t quite MLB ready get some time on the roster in Nashville or Oakland. A’s fans remember a few years ago playing the Astros and seeing guys like Springer and Altuve getting time maybe a little early before they were “ready”. I think that’s played out/paid off well for them.

    With a new stadium coming and deeper pockets not only allows the A’s to maybe start keeping their star players, but allows them to start playing them sooner since managing MLB service becomes less of an issue.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      8 years ago

      “With a new stadium coming” but there’s nothing definite as of yet.

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      • pspahn

        8 years ago

        Something will happen. I like the Peralta location myself. The existing location would be cool too if that area got a drastic makeover.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Did you see Eric Burns on Maddog today? He said h was in a tavern knocking back with a team employee(he wouldn’t name him of course). Burnsie said the guy had a few too many and said they do have some property and it’s close.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          *he

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  22. Houston We Have A Solution

    8 years ago

    Yankees get Gray and Alonso

    Athletics get Rutherford, Florial, and 2 of Tate, Clarkin, Littell, Fleicer Perez, Guzman, Widener.

    A’s get their OFs in Rutherford and Florial plus some pitching, Yankees get their TOR arm who’s controlled for 2 more seasons and fill 1B while making a playoff push while keeping their near MLB ready arms in Adams and Sheffield.

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  23. jonnyj

    8 years ago

    Boy do we miss Texeira….

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  24. pinballwizard1969

    8 years ago

    With basically the spare parts the Tigers got for JD Martinez arguably the best bat on the market teams like the A’s and Mets shouldn’t expect much for guys like Alonso or Duda.

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