The Giancarlo Stanton trade saga has been one of the top storylines of the offseason, and there’s no end in sight at the time being. To date, the Cardinals and Giants have reportedly submitted formal offers, while the Dodgers and Red Sox have also been linked to the slugger.
We’ll track today’s developments on the Stanton front right here:
- ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick reports that other clubs have gotten the sense that there’ll be resolution on the Stanton talks one way or another by the time the Winter Meetings kick off on Dec. 10 (all Twitter links). That is to say, the Marlins will either have traded him by that point or interested parties will have exhausted their patience and begun to explore other possibilities on the trade and free-agent markets. Crasnick also notes that while the Cardinals and Giants are the most-cited suitors, there are other clubs that are in active pursuit of Stanton.
Earlier Updates
- Jon Morosi of MLB.com reports that Stanton has given the Marlins a list of teams to which he’d accept a trade, and the Dodgers are among those teams (all links to Twitter). Per Morosi, the Dodgers and Marlins have discussed some Stanton trade scenarios, but the Giants and Cardinals have shown more focused interest in Stanton. Some teams interested in Stanton feel the Dodgers are his top choice, which could slow negotiations as Stanton could veto any deal until knowing for certain that the Dodgers don’t plan on making a move for him. At this point, however, Stanton has not rejected any trades, according to Morosi.
I wonder when things are going to go down. You would think the Marlins would want to resolve this sooner rather than later so they can get in with their other off-season plans as well. I also wonder if at some point the Marlins are going to finally say to every team (that Stanton has said he would waive his NTC for) and say, “ok submit your best proposal” now.
True but it seems the whole off-season is waiting on Stanton and otani before anyone does anything.
Exactly
That’s what I mean too…the team or teams that want Stanton will have other work to do as well so they’re going to want to make that push ASAP as well. B/c of the money and potential prospects involved I think Stanton will have a bigger impact on holding up the market than Otani will.
I don’t really understand why he would veto a trade to any possible contender, knowing that he can opt out in 3 years. If he vetoes a trade to Boston, for example, he’s basically saying that his biggest concern is that he’s going to suck for the next three years, be “forced” to not opt out, and then be “stuck” in a city he doesn’t want to live in.
If he maintains his production levels for the next three years and plays well in the playoffs for 2 or 3 of the next three years, he can opt out, cash in again, and choose wherever he wants to go.
Maybe (and hear me out on this…) JUST MAYBE… he just really doesn’t like Boston and doesn’t want to spend 3 years there. He’s from LA, so having that as his top preference makes sense. Also, maybe he doesn’tw
So maybe, just maybe, he’s a total prima donna.
Or, maybe he just gives a damn where he works for the next three years of his life.
Prima donna for having every right to decide where he wants to play?? Yeah, ok, that literally makes NO sense. Congratulations for a very asinine statement
He doesn’t have “every” right to play where he wants…he’ll have every right in three years. Right now he is limited by the options presented to him. He says he doesn’t want to be part of a Miami rebuild. which no one could blame him for, but if he only wants to play for the Dodgers or nobody, he should either say so to team ownership or just refuse to be traded until he can opt out. If he can’t bear to play for 3 seasons in a less-than-ideal city for a quality team that’s going to be in playoff contention, then yes, he’s a prima donna. Unless he’s afraid he’ll pull a Jason Heyward and under-perform to the point that an opt-out would cost him money, which is also a legitimate concern but also a big red flag.
If it makes him a prima dona to live where he wants, then damn you have some low expectations for prima donas
You get to pick which city you live and work in, right ? Maybe we’re all just Primadonas.
Think the fact that he made sure he got a no trade clause means he has the right to pick where he wants for play and live for the however many years. That’s the point of a no trade clause so he can control his own destiny for the duration of that contract. What a ignorant thing to say that he doesn’t have every right to pick where he wants when clearly he does.
Why do you think players get a NTC in the contract? So they can control where they play. So he has every right in the world to control where he plays if its not going to be in Miami.
a no trade clause gives him the right to be picky. It’s Miami’s fault for giving it to him. There’s probably some primadonna in there, but he’s playing by the rules of the Marlins. He committed to them when they sold him the idea that they would build around him. Not his fault that the owner sold the team and new management has to cut payroll.
He literally has every right. It’s in his contract. He can veto any trade. Only thing he is obligated to do is strap it up in Miami until they move him.
Here’s my main issue with this. Why is the assumption that he’s just going to opt out? I understand looking at Harper and Machado at comps, but it’s hard to draw a clear conclusion. They will be a 5 year age difference when and if those contracts are signed. The contract is also backloaded and paid out until he’s what 38. The market has also shifted and age a big factor. Are we just assuming he will top 210/7. That’s hard for me to just assume seeing as he’s had a tough time staying on the field throughout his career, whether fair or not. He should be extremely picky especially seeing as he has the right. He was and is the face of that franchise and you can’t expect him to want to stick out a rebuild. You can’t fault him at all for taking that contract. You can fault Loria for offering him the contract with no intention of seeing the pay raise through. Let’s not get al self righteous here.
I knew someone who lived in Primadonna, NV, and chose to live there.
I don’t know if this is relevant to the discussion, but I thought I’d put it out there.
Relevant and insightful. That settles this argument. I just don’t understand why the population of Climax, Saskatchewan isn’t in the Billion, but do understand why the population of Dildo, New Found Land is small.
Why is he a prima donna. He has a full no trade clause and he is using it to his advantage which is a right he earned when the Marlins gave him that deal.
And by the way when Jeters group bought the team they were aware of Stantons contract and clause. Stanton owes them nothing
Anyone can work wherever they want to sure but you don’t always get to work in the field you want to if you want to work in a certain place. I don’t believe he’s a primadona with that being said.
A player doesn’t have to live in the city he plays in….That is what i don’t understand? sure he will spend 80 something days there in the summer but that is to play baseball….but I do understand if Stanton wants to go home…I’ve said it before….the dodgers are just waiting to see if they can snag Ohtino and if they can’t will make a play on Stanton…should fell pretty good if you are a Dodgers fan
Players spend April through September in the cities they play in. Yes, they travel to other cities a lot but they aren’t hoping on a private jet to fly 2000 miles every day after a game.
except for the fact that this dodgers fan wants no pay off that contract
what? They spend a majority of the season in that city yea, i agree….but that is it. other than that they are traveling…they are not spending April through September in the cities they play in…Cardinals have 81 home games so yes 81 days he will have to spend it in St. Louis playing baseball
You say 81 days like it’s nothing. Realistic people want to live where they work. Plain and simple. Would you suggest that he, for example, plays in Boston and goes back to LA or Miami after the games?
By saying it’s only 81 days that the a player needs to be in the city of the team he plays for is a pretty transparent attempt to minimize what in reality is at minimum a 6 month commitment.
It’s only 81 days if the team plays all their home games in consecutive days, without even a day off. A player absolutely has to have a home in the city he plays for, even if it’s only an apartment, from the end of ST until that team’s season comes to a close.
Players on WS teams play from early April to November. If you don’t like living in Boston or some other city, a 6 to 7 month commitment to live there for the season cannot be minimized.
You’re right if the Dodgers sign him they be close to a 300 million dollar payroll. So as you stated it would be great to be a Dodger fan. You will always lose the big game no matter who you sigh. :):)
but if he isn’t playing well he can’t opt out and get similar money
Stanton can dictate whatever he wants, he is getting his money either way. If he has any preferences he will make them known
Problem is the decision is not solely in the hands of the Marlins or he would’ve been dealt already. Stanton holds the keys and can maneuver his way to whatever team he wants consider his ability to veto any deal that is on the table. Best thing is the Dodgers know this, know he wants to be a dodger, and this allows them to take it slow and get the best return in any deal for Stanton. Dodgers can sit back and let the deal come to them which I cannot wait for! Stanton and Cody = 100hr’s and fireworks. Can’t wait
There’s no indication any other team has offered the Marlins an acceptable deal or that the Dodgers will. If Stanton decides to only accept a deal to the Dodgers and the Dodgers low ball the Marlins the Marlins will just hold onto Stanton until the trade deadline. Maybe he’ll be more willing then.
The Marlins have more leverage than you think. Nothing’s stopping them from hanging on to him for a bit if the price isn’t right (they said they want to she’d payroll, but they’re not forced to), and that’s not a good scenario got him.
Not really. the Marlins have already said they want to lower their budget, and trading Stanton is the only way to do that. Either way, Stanton will get his money.
Marlins can — and increasingly likely will — just not trade him. They can get to their salary goal in other ways. Just trading Prado and Ziegler (by attaching other players if they have to) saves more than Stanton makes in 2018.
Stanton’s 25 million is still greater than the 23.5 million Ziegler and Prado will make in 2018.
But not when added to other said players (Yelich and/or Ozuna?)
Prado is also under contract for $15 mm in 2019, so total for Prado and Zeigler is more than what Stanton is making in 2018. I may be wrong, but I think that is what he is referring to.
Why would you depress a package for you clearly two most trade able young players? Those would be the two best ways to acquire impact youthful talent. It makes no sense at all.
Let’s play the Stanton to the Dodgers scenario out. He ends up getting traded to LA with Miami eating little of his contract, and the Dodgers giving up less than what everyone thinks that the Giants, Cardinals, etc… would have given up in terms of prospects.
The new management team of the Dodgers are known to be very strategic on payroll and what money they throw at players. Not sayin they don’t spend big bucks, because they do. They are just fairly smart about it.
Stanton joins the Dodgers and fans rejoice that he didn’t go to the hated Giants. Fans start dreaming of winning a World Series. A few months go by, and Stanton lands on the DL again. His home runs are down, but people are still pumped they got him.
Next year’s crop of free agents is arguably the best ever. How does Stanton change the Dodgers approach to the next offseason? Does his massive contract limit what they can do with Kershaw? Or if they sign Kershaw and have Stanton, are their hands tied next offseason? What happens if he keeps getting hurt and doesn’t opt out? Then they are stuck with another big albatross of a contract.
Stanton would be a great signing, but point is how does he impact the bigger long term picture of the Dodgers. Gets a little cloudy the more you look at it.
We’ve had Hanley AND Sheffield.
So the possibilities with Stanton along side Bellinger head to be the way or FO looks at this
@CursedRangers
The thought process is pretty sound. In all honesty, I’m not sure they are in need of an impact game changing bat. Adding more so of professional hitter with some pop to lengthen the lineup in my opinion is more crucial. Stanton sort of is the piece that people can dream upon when a team lacks power. Certainly I think every team could use a bat like Stanton, but is it necessary for the Dodgers? Idk it seems overkill and kind of handcuffs some of what they need to do in the pen and other moves. Certainly if they can shed the dead weight that’d be ideal, but unlikely. I see this FO spending smarter and in the final phases of their financial restructure. I just don’t see them blowing it all up. Naturally they tend to have excess OF pieces and a logjam building in the upper minors, but seems like something they could attack for a controllable piece. I essentially agree they value the flexibility and the potential anchor around that contract, although the idea of Stanton is fun, is probably the biggest hurdle. Kind of would like to see them churn a bit, fortify the pen, etc.
Yah, things are really outta control…gee whiz.
The Marlins are going to suck for years, so there is no rush.
I don’t get how this is slowing everyone else’s offseason down. If you’re not the Marlins, Giants, Cards or Dodgers why aren’t you proceeding with your offseason as usual?
It’s probably more that the big name FAs aren’t going to sign until Stanton goes. They don’t want teams willing to take on $250+ million in payroll to be out of the picture while they wait on Stanton. And the rest of the FA dominoes are going to fall in line after the big names are sorted out.
It sounds like the Dodgers have already said they’re not really interested in Stanton so it comes down to the Giants and Cards slowing down the offseason. Just odd that these two teams are basically putting the offseason on hold for the rest of the league.
The Giants and St Louis want this resolved as fast as possible so they all can move on.
I think you nailed it.
It’s hard to compete with stars like Stanton or JDM who just had career best years. Let them go to the teams willing to shell out for them even though in all likelihood both will miss a third or more of many seasons due to injuries. Then let the chips fall for everyone else. If the owners and GMs are savvy, neither of these 2 big names will get what their agents are hoping for and there will be more crumbs for the rest.
Good point, the timing of these moves will be critical to the teams involved along with the players. I can see a guy like Martinez only getting a deal like the Parrot got last year.
One possibility is that the Giants, Cards, or Dodgers have told one or more free agents that they’ll have a great contract offer but it’s contingent on whether they trade for Stanton. So another free agent is telling the Red Sox, Cubs, or Brewers that they’ll get back to them if the player doesn’t sign with one of those three. And the player is okay waiting.
I agree thats probably it but I know the Brewers GM said he’s never seen more activity at the GM meetings than there was a couple of weeks ago. Just so odd that every team and every FA just went into lockdown mode because of Stanton.
I mean there has been one kind of significant free agency/trade signing since the end of the year. Crazy.
There are many more teams than those four in the running for Stanton. The only reason why you’ve heard about them is because their front office’s leak. Many front offices don’t leak.
Because if you are Hosmer’s agent are you settling for an offer now? Or will something surface in StL or Boston? How does that affect Santana?
Further down the domino line you find Bruce and Duda etc…
Joc, Prospects, and maybe a veteran pitcher like McCarthy? And get it done already
“Prospects” is a wide range, that could make the trade either an overpay or an underpay.
The Marlins primary goal is cutting payroll in 2018. Your proposal gives them players back making more than half what Stanton makes. So why would they do that?
Exactly. There’s no way the Marlins don’t come away with anything less than two top prospects and two to three more mid range guys.
If the Dodgers are serious, you would have to think Verdugo is involved to some capacity
Now that is surely not going to happen.
Are you even a baseball fan? I don’t get comments like this, like did you just get done mowing the lawn, googled baseball landed on this page and decided to say this? Why would Miami want McCarthy? Do you even know why Miami wants to trade Stanton?
I think he ends up with the Giants along with Dee Gordon. Don’t think the Dodgers will offer anything too good for him in terms of prospects. Maybe Yadier Alvarez and two more marginal prospects.
See IMO that’d be a bad move for the Giants. Yeah you’ll get Stanton which helps and Gordon may stabilize the IF, but you still have Span and Pence in the OF, plus the bullpen has been a mess. So now they’d be out the prospects they don’t really have, AND any salary space left to fix any of the other problems.
If I were SF I’d be going after Cain and another upper level outfielder (currently can’t think of names). I’d also try a reunion with Eduardo Nunez and try to sign Addison Reed. That alone would bring pretty immense help to SF all for less money they’d be paying for Stanton and Gordon, plus they keep their 3 prospects.
Yes, that’s true. But also keep in mind that getting Stanton also means he doesn’t go to the Dodgers. Yes, he’ll cost a lot. But there’s also something to say about keeping him away from a division rival for the next decade.
I know a lot of people say he might back out, but I don’t actually know that he will. Remember, his contract is back loaded for that extension. He’d be leaving a ton of money on the table in hopes that someone signs him to a 10 year deal at age 31.
His contract is certainly not backloaded by any conventional meaning of the term. Any team taking on his contract risks the burden of over $200m in dead money in the out years. If he breaks down in any way over the next three years, he takes that money.
It is back loaded meaning the majority of the money owed is at the back end of the contract instead of the front end.
Friedman and Zaidi won’t take on a contract like this. Adrian Gonzalez had his last good season at 33. Carl Crawford, Andre Ethier, and Matt Kemp didn’t make it that far. And Stanton is signed through age 37. I’d put it at 50-50 that Stanton isn’t playing for the last 3-4 years of this deal and he probably won’t be above 1.0 WAR for the last 5.
Yes, some stars do play into their late 30’s but you can’t predict Stanton is going to be one of them at age 28. The Dodgers wouldn’t blink is this were a 5 year $133 million deal, but they won’t want to pay the last 5 years/$150 million.
This simply isn’t the meaning of backloading. It’s a very long and very expensive contract, but it is not backloaded. The AAV is nearly the same throughout.
I don’t think it’s a bad move at all. Put belt on the trading block with the shark and that frees up the payroll to still address other needs and it seems the Giants aren’t worried about the tax even if. Plus they get to keep there draft pick
If I were the Giants I would try and get Gardner and Headley from the Yanks The Giants were near last in both positions last year. This would be a short term solution without shelling out a lot of money. It gives the Giants a good chance next year until they see where they are at with their pitching.
The Giants dealt with someone eating up a high percentage in payroll before when they had Bonds. It may just take a year to adjust the roster to fit around Stanton if they get him. This year may result in running a financial deficit, but future years can be mitigated..
If the Giants trade for Stanton and Gordon, then they will not be hesitant to go out and also sign Cain or Dyson to provide good defense in CF. Adding Stanton and Gordon will mean they are blowing past to the luxury tax in 2018, so no reason to not just go for it. Pence and Span platoon in LF would be expensive, but it is also the final season of their contracts for both of them. If they need to clear a little salary, trade Belt and sign a lower priced option at 1B like Alonso or Morrison.
Like most Giants fans that have commented about it on here, they have to believe that even a slightly healthier pitching staff along with the improved defense and offense from Stanton, Gordon, and Cain/Dyson would put them in line for a WC.
Do the Dodgers really have to offer anything “too good” in terms of prospects if their biggest competition is the Giants? A mediocre offer from the Dodgers is likely as valuable as a good offer from the Giants, assuming the Giants don’t want to completely empty their farm (even then, there’s not much to empty).
Only if you consider Alvarez or Buehler good. That is the type of prospect that will have to headline a 3 or 4 for 1 trade for Stanton.
A mediocre offer is a mediocre offer and the Marlins do not have to take it and won’t. It is going to have to be a very good offer indeed to land the reigning MVP.
The Marlins should have a good idea by now what they want and can get for Stanton. The key for them is to dump his contract and get some young pitching I would think.
I wish the Cards would focus on going after a different thumper than Stanton – or for that matter JD Martinez. Both are mediocre at best on defense and both have issues with fragility. We already are paying a big contract for Fowler who has a career history of being unable to play because of one injury or another. This season was just one more of the same where he only played in 118 games and how many of those were only for a pinch hitting appearance? Instead, we should be looking for someone like Marcell Ozuna. He’s a solid thumper, excellent on defense, quick on the bases, durable and would be far cheaper to pick up than either Stanton or JDM. A guy like Ozuna adds so much to the team in so many ways he should be an obvious choice if the Marlins are willing to trade for him.
They’ve been in touch with the Marlins about Ozuna and Yelich as well, not that they have any inclination of moving them ATM though.
Agree, but the rumors are that the Marlins prefer to hold on to Ozuna over Yelich and Stanton, and Ozuna would definitely require the Cards to trade some premium talent, whereas Stanton will cost less in terms of prospects, freeing them up to swing trades for other positions.
Far cheaper in dollars, but not far cheaper in terms of the players needed to acquire him. Plus he’s projected to make 10.9M through arbitration with two more trips through that, so he’s not exactly super cheap for the next few years himself. He’s a good player though, but you’re going to have to give up a lot in terms of player capital.
You obviously have not seen Stanton play the field. He’s much better than “mediocre at best”. He can go get them and has a strong arm.
Yes. I see a blockbuster with the Cardinals that doesn’t include Stanton. Yelich, Ozuna, Gordon, Staily, and Bour would all represent upgrades for the Cards. Would the Cards send Reyes, Weaver and Flaherty the other way? Along with Diaz and Piscotty and Martinez?
Not Reyes or Weaver or Martinez will be traded !
he hasn’t vetoed any trades because none have been fitting for the marlins to ask him
It’s important that we know that it’s not Stanton who’s getting in the way of a trade… to this point.
It’s obviously the Marlins that are not happy with the offers that are coming in….. because they haven’t presented anything to him ( one would have to assume that since he hasn’t rejected any trades and there is no trade at this point)
I don’t think this is slowing the market at all with the exception of the upper level FA’s and perhaps not even them. The Dodgers are interested but not focusing on Stanton alone. At this point we know he prefers L.A. and has given the Marlins a list of teams he would be willing to play for. We have no information as to how many teams are on this list, only that L.A. is.
Maybe the Astros should go for Stanton. They have the payroll and prospects. He’d probably like to play for the team that actually won the World Series instead of the loser.
As an Astro fan, that’s a horrible idea. Springer, Correa and others will need new contracts in a year or 2. If they spend money, it needs to be on pitching.
Good point, If the Astros hadn’t pulled the trigger on Verlander they wouldn’t have won the series. Stanton is another game changer in my book.
If the Dodgers are indeed Stanton’s preference, of course they are going to play it coy and act like they are only half interested. The Giants and Cards, on the other hand, have to be more aggressive and flattering toward Stanton since they aren’t his top pick. and they have to convince him to join their ranks. I expect the Dodgers to eventually put together an acceptable package for the Marlins that includes a couple of major league ready pieces from among the likes of Toles, Stewart and Stripling, and one or two prospects like Dustin May or Trevor Oaks., with $50-$70 million going to LA. ,
I think you might be dreaming a little. Yes, Stanton holds a lot of cards, but the Marlins also hold a lot too. They know Stanton doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild, and he knows that’s where they are going. They could actually wait until the deadline too if they had to.
If SF offered something like Panik and Beede while taking Stanton and Gordon and their salaries, the Marlins aren’t just going to say no, he wants to go to LA, so we have to accept minor leaguers and send them $50M. They could also trade Yelich or Ozuna and see what happens too.
Yes, the Marlins need to trade him. But Stanton doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild just as much. To think Stanton holds every card is silly.
Hell, if they really want LA to up their offer, get the rumor out there that Houston is involved in talks.
The Marlins hold very few cards if Stanton wants to play poker.. The last thing new ownership needs is a failed trade attempt after publicly announcing Stanton has to go, and then an unhappy $295 million player continuing to cash his huge checks. Stanton has a full no trade agreement. If he is adamant about going to LA, the Marlins would have to weigh the Dodgers’ offer against the alternative of him staying.under less-than-ideal (and expensive) circumstances. (Frankly, I don’t think it is an “LA or nothing” stance by Stanton, but who knows..)
The Marlins have not “publicly announced Stanton has to go.” They have avoided any such statement. They are I’m sure prepared to hang onto him if they don’t get a good offer. They can save the equivalent of his salary in other ways, quite easily. Then trade him at deadline.
You do realize that “failed trade attempt” means the reigning MVP stays in Miami, right? I doubt anyone there is going to be mad at management for failing to trade him. They aren’t just going to give him up for some fringe MLB guys that aren’t going to be much of anything while paying $70M for him to leave. That money alone would almost cover what Stanton is owed until he opts out. Plus, they’d be able to market him more now that he’s the MVP, and he brings fans to games. The Marlins could easily say you go with Dee to SF or you stay if that’s the Dodgers offer. If LA says here is Pederson and Urias, that could change things.
Pretty sure that the Marlins will only agree to pay part of his contract if he doesn’t opt out. That is allowed.
What we don’t know is the new Marlins ownership’s plan for rebuilding this team into a competitor. They may very well not have one yet, and conceivably aren’t really much interested in competition so much as profitability. All we really know is that they have a plan to reduce payroll. If that is the case then getting Stanton off the books could be their top priority.
It all comes down to who is on Stanton’s list!
I don’t know why the dodgers would even want this guy. Maybe just to block the Giants from getting him? It’s not like the boys in blue are one big bat away from winning the series. They should bank their prospects and keep that train rolling.
You don’t know why the Dodgers would want a guy who slashed .281/.376/.631 last season? He doesn’t guarantee them postseason success, you’re right, but he makes them better. I do think there are probably better fits, but they have money, a strong farm, and are in the midst of their competitive window, so they’re right up
You don’t know why the Dodgers would want the NL MVP? He very well could make the difference in winning the series. Plug him into the corner OFs with Puig and and have Taylor, Pederson and Forsythe platoon 2B and CF.
Just a hunch, but I think Pederson would be going to Miami in a deal. Especially if the Giants have offered major league talent like Panik.
Marlins would have zero interest in Pederson. Last thing they need is another outfielder, especially one with 3 years of control and entering arbitration.
I wouldn’t say zero but I’d prefer an andrew toles if I were miami.
This might seem crazy, but for a while this Dodger fan didn’t want to trade for Stanton.
No idea what I was thinking. Plug Stanton into that lineup and a very good team gets a lot better.
vs. Righties
Taylor 2B
Seager SS
Turner 3B
Stanton LF
Bellinger 1B
Puig RF
Pederson CF
Grandal (or Barnes) C
vs. Lefties
Taylor CF
Seager SS
Turner 3B
Stanton LF
Bellinger 1B
Puig RF
Forsythe 2B
Barnes C
Don’t ask me why I was ever opposed to getting Stanton. I have no explanation.
The Dodgers I guarantee won’t be looking at Stanton, they are right where they want to be for next season. I’ll put money on that! Why give up good prospects for a hitter they’re not struggling for. Makes no sense
Right where they want to be!? The Dodgers were literally one Giancarlo Stanton way from winning the World Series. Yasiel Puig And Kike Hernandez will only be able to do so much, whereas Stanton would give the one heck of an option to protect Justin Turner/Cody Bellinger…
Lineup protection has already been proven to be a farce
Your comment is a farce.
Except when it isn’t
Good point, If the Astros hadn’t pulled the trigger on Verlander they wouldn’t have won the series. Stanton is another game changer in my book.
I think the dodgers have figured out you can’t buy a World Series ring, so going after Stanton would a foolish mistake! Puig is a by far better outfielder then Stanton. And he’s been a dodger for a few years now and knows his team and mates!!
While it seems intuitively like it should be a thing, there’s not actually statistical evidence that lineup protection exists. Guys just walk if they have bad hitters behind them more often, which is a good thing for the hitting team
The Dodgers were one Justin Verlander away, not one Stanton away.
And the Astros took on Verlander’s contract.
And the Tigers are paying a portion of his later years.
Which send to me one option to include negotiating with
Don’t disagree, but how can you play Puig in right rather than Stanton?
I think Stanton is a better outfielder than Puig?
Puig should’ve been the Gold Glove winner in RF. I don’t think many people think Stanton is a better defensive player than Puig.
Just as very few would claim Puig is a better hitter than Stanton.
Remember when people were saying the Dodgers would have to give up good prospects just to get rid of Puig?
Stanton is definitely not a better OF than Puig. Puig is not a better outfielder than Heyward. Stanton is a better hitter than both. The adjustments made this year if sustained make Puig a more dangerous hitter than Heyward. All cleared up.
Still happy to seethe Phillies not involved.
I’m telling people this. It won”t be the Giants, Cardinals or Dodgers.
Then who will it be? Surely it won’t be the Padres, if that’s where you’re going with this.
Won’t be them either. I just see this every time on this site. They report for WEEKS (sometimes MONTHS) that one of two teams will get player x or one of two guys will get the job for team Y and then it ends up being someone who was never mentioned. We saw it with Zack Greinke for example.
I agree, I wouldn’t count out a sleeper team. I can still think of several teams he’d be a fit for. Astros, Rockies, and Mariners are a few. Astros and Rockies have the payroll and need. Mariners could trade Cruz to a team that doesn’t want the commitment of years that Stanton or JDM would acquire and use Stanton as a long term replacement that can play the field for a few years.
Dodgers will end up with him. It’s written in the stars.
this gets really old, really fast.
Our long national nightmare continues.
Stanton to the Dodgers for Puig, Urias, AGon, 2 other top 30 prospects and 60mil in cash.
The Dodgers have little use for AGon now. Marlins can flip him for pitching or outright buy him out.
Why would Gonzo approve a trade to Mia?
Why would the Marlins want A-Gon, who is as expensive as Stanton and he’s washed up….. Puig, who’s going to cost 9 million dollars and then become a free agent… and Urias who has a devastating injury and may never be able to pitch like he used to?????
Makes no sense whatsoever….. for that package, the Marlins will just keep Stanton
and why would the marlins want him?
Adrian: no.
I’d rather buy him out and add him to our coaching staff
“…interested parties will have exhausted their patience…” You don’t say? We as fans have already lost our patience haha
What would the dodgers have to trade to get him?
I think that a package that started with either Alvarez or Buehler, included White plus DJ Peters would work
I don’t know. Good question my friend.
The Marlins should have a good idea by now what they want and can get for Stanton. The key for them is to dump his contract and get some young pitching I would think.
without question he will be on the Red Sox in a month..
The fix is in….he’ll be a Dodger by April
I don’t think so friend…I think the Cards will get him because they are so very persistent
if the cardinals were as persistent as you say, they would have pujols, heyward, price and any other free agent they were close to signing.
No! Because the Cardinals set a certain price for a player
and they don’t go over that set price.
It’s not “The Fix”…..if that’s where He wants to play, and the Dodgers can accommodate him. So much fricken emotion………Chill Out!
What about the Yankees?????
If he goes to the Dodgers I’ll quit watching baseball. Tired of the big cities sucking up the big players. The rich keep getting richer.
Are you serious?
jwag……..Then tell the “not-so-big city Teams” to start spending the “revenue sharing money” that they get every year! Plenty of teams continue to make huge profits while “spending frugally”. Look into the financials of the owners of those teams and see what kind of money is falling into their hands (and they are NOT investing it in the team).
Stop being mad at teams that “spend money”…..and lobby for your team to “Get-In-The-Game”.
You realize that at $562 million, the Dodgers get $100 million more revenue annually than any team not named the Yankees right? That they get more than 2 times as much as the Marlins? That is after revenue sharing.
If the Marlins spent every single dollar of the $206 million in revenue they receive from all sources including revenue sharing on just MLB payroll, something that is not possible, they still could not spend as much as the $265 million the Dodgers spent on MLB payroll this past season.
The maximum possible MLB payroll for any team is 57% of total revenue. Maybe one year here and there they can go over, but baseball teams are businesses and businesses have to make money to stay in business.
So please stop posting stuff like that. It’s not even remotely true.
baseball is being ruined by no trade clauses and opt outs
Stanton to the Giants, easy pick!! They need him so bad I bet they give more in a Deal then any other team, if they don’t land a power bat, they better pitch for a rebuild. Probably take on the whole salary and give the prospects and panik for Gordon
But in all honesty, if Stanton wants to play with the Dodgers, let them have him, I wouldn’t want a dodger lover on a Giants team!! Wouldn’t feel right!! Lol, go for Martinez!!
Oh Balk you want Stanton on your team. Who are you kidding