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Several Teams Have Reportedly Made Offers For Manny Machado

By Steve Adams and Kyle Downing | December 14, 2017 at 2:53am CDT

THURSDAY, 2:53am: Nightengale reports in another tweet that the Orioles are “moving aggressively” on trade talks involving Machado, noting that Baltimore believes they can move him by the end of the week.

THURSDAY, 12:47am: Contrary to Rosenthal’s earlier report, Bob Nightengale of USA Today Sports reports via Twitter that the Cardinals have a “strong offer” in place for Machado, though it’s reportedly not as strong as White Sox’ proposal.

THURSDAY, 12:20am:  Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (insider subscription required and recommended) reports that the White Sox have been the “most aggressive” suitor for Machado. Their goal seems to be to acquire him and attempt to extend him for the long term. Bob Nightengale adds in a tweet that the offer from Chicago was “the best offer of the dozen offers the Orioles have received.”

Rosenthal also notes that the Giants offered the Orioles a package that included Christian Arroyo. The Cardinals also asked about Machado, but the price was apparently too steep for them.

WEDNESDAY, 7:53pm: It doesn’t appear that a Machado trade will come together during the Winter Meetings, Encina writes.

6:30pm: Several teams have made formal trade offers for Machado, Jon Heyman of FanRag tweets. The Yankees’ chances of landing him are near zero, a source told Joel Sherman of the New York Post. It seems the Yankees would want to include Jacoby Ellsbury in a a Machado deal to help them stay under the competitive-balance tax threshold, but Sherman doubts he’d waive his no-trade clause to go to Baltimore (Twitter link).

4:33pm: The Orioles are “making good progress” toward a Machado trade, Duquette told Brittany Ghiroli of MLB.com and other reporters, though Dan Connolly of BaltimoreBaseball.com writes that a deal doesn’t appear imminent. There are more than five teams in the running for Machado, Ghiroli adds. The Orioles met with a “couple” of those teams Wednesday, per Encina. Notably, Duquette hasn’t dismissed trading Machado to another AL East team, Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com relays (all Twitter links here).

TUESDAY, 6:27pm: The Yankees and White Sox are also interested in Machado, ESPN’s Buster Olney reports (Twitter link).  As mentioned below, Peter Angelos doesn’t want to deal Machado to New York, while the Sox are an interesting suitor that could be looking at Machado as the centerpiece of a return to contention.  Cardinals GM Michael Girsch told Ben Frederickson of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that giving up significant assets for a star player with just one year of control remaining is “not a path we are likely to go down.”  Interestingly, this description applies to both Machado and to another oft-mentioned Cards trade target in Josh Donaldson.

4:29pm: “Several clubs” asked the Orioles about Machado today, Dan Duquette told MLB.com’s Brittany Ghiroli (Twitter links), Eduardo A. Encina of the Baltimore Sun (Twitter links) and other media.  There’s at least a possibility a trade happens, and the Orioles have apparently not discussed an extension with Machado in years, though new negotiations are “under consideration.”  The O’s haven’t talked about giving any potential Machado trade partner a 72-hour window to try and negotiate their own extension with the infielder.

1:43pm: The Cardinals have interest in Machado, Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweets. The Phillies are said to be enamored of Machado, too, and there are no doubt a wide variety of other teams lining up to check on in the asking price. Baltimore is receiving a “ton” of interest in Machado, Rob Bradford of WEEI.com tweets.

10:57am: While it’s been reported that the Orioles are at least willing to listen to offers on Manny Machado, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic takes things a step further, reporting that the O’s have asked interested parties to make them offers for the star infielder (subscription required and highly recommended). The term “infielder” is of particular note, as Rosenthal also writes that Machado’s desire is to return to shortstop in 2018 whether he’s in Baltimore or with a new club.

Machado, 25, has long stood out as an on-paper trade candidate given his proximity to free agency and the Orioles’ lack of starting pitching. The O’s, who have been looking to add as many as three starters to their rotation this winter, will be hard-pressed to contend for an AL East title in 2018 (even more so in the wake of the Bronx Bombers’ acquisition of Giancarlo Stanton). With Machado set to hit the open market next winter in position to land a record-setting contract — assuming a healthy year, anything south of Stanton’s $325MM guarantee would seem to be a nonstarter — it’s difficult to envision him remaining in Baltimore. For the time being, MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects a $17.3MM salary for Machado next year after his final trip through the arbitration process.

The Orioles, per Rosenthal, are aiming to acquire two controllable young starters in any trade for Machado. That’s a lofty ask for a lot of teams, but a win-now club with an ample supply of touted but unproven pitching could look at that as an acceptable price to pay for a player that has been worth better than five wins per season, on average, over the past half decade (despite missing 80 games due to injury in 2014). Notably, Rosenthal adds that owner Peter Angelos does not want to trade with the division-rival Yankees.

Machado didn’t have his best season in 2017, as he got off to a shockingly pedestrian start to the year. Through the season’s first three months, Machado was batting just .216/.289/.423 with an elevated (by his standards) 20.6 percent strikeout rate. Over the final three months, though, the Machado of old resurfaced, as he mashed at a .295/.329/.513 pace with a vastly improved 13.1 percent punchout rate.

Machado has two Gold Gloves and a Platinum Glove to his name at third base and has long graded out as an elite defender there, but there’s little doubt that he could still handle shortstop at an above-average level as well. He logged nearly 400 innings there in 2016, for instance, and drew generally positive marks from Ultimate Zone Rating (+1.9) and Defensive Runs Saved (+3).

From a broader perspective, Machado is one of several players entering his final year of team control in Baltimore. Zach Britton, Adam Jones and Brad Brach are all free agents following the 2018 season, while Jonathan Schoop is controlled for just one year beyond that. Depending on how aggressively the O’s are willing to sell off parts, they could quickly restock their farm with an ample supply of talent by marketing more than one of their soon-to-be free agents, though doing so would also mean largely punting on the 2018 campaign at the very least.

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  1. brewcrew08

    3 years ago

    Yankees just cleared Headley……possible Machado trade given their farm?

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    • connolly26

      3 years ago

      No thanks. let the prospects play. our priority is pitching.

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    • Yankeepatriot

      3 years ago

      For a major one year rental ? Nooooo lmaoo. Cashman isn’t stupid

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      • brewcrew08

        3 years ago

        Who said he’s a one year rental? The Yankees have the money (if they want) to extend him.

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        • Yankeepatriot

          3 years ago

          He will test the market for sure though. There is the chance you lose prospects and not have him return. That’s the problem

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        • AllRiseForTheJudge

          3 years ago

          There is a nonzero chance he gets traded to the Yankees. There is a zero percent chance he refuses to sign an extension with the team most likely to offer him the biggest contract as a free agent a year from now anyway.

          While I can’t see Baltimore helping the Yankees cruise to a World Series while losing to them 18 times a year, if the Yankees offered up Chance Adams and Justus Sheffield (bad moves IMO) there is no way Baltimore says no.

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        • jbigz12

          3 years ago

          It’s not a bad move if it gives them a Ws championship. Put Machado on the Yankees and I don’t see anyone beating them. Stanton, Sanchez, judge, Machado all in the same lineup is ridiculous. For Adams and Sheffield we’d probably need to add Britton or Brach though.

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        • justinept

          3 years ago

          The Cardinals would top the offer of Adams and Sheffield. They’re desperate to make a major splash. And given their interest in Stanton, it’s not crazy to think they’d offer an extension that mirrored what Stanton is making …

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        • baseballfan22

          3 years ago

          missing Didi, hicks and Bird…

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        • brewcrew08

          3 years ago

          Bird won’t stay healthy so..

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        • Joe Kerr

          3 years ago

          Stanton was for multiple years, I don’t think the Cards trade for only 1 year of Machado.

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        • fannclub6

          3 years ago

          Totally agree. Cards have the pitching depth and can move DeJong to 3rd. They can hopefully lock him up to a long term deal because they have the money. Would be the face of the franchise.

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        • Kayrall

          3 years ago

          Not enough.

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        • thetruth

          3 years ago

          It is if it costs us future championships. A one year rental isn’t worth 2 top pitching prospects and no one is unbeatable.

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        • Yankeepatriot

          3 years ago

          Bird is one of the most slept on players in mlb. Is ankle problems were fixed with that surgery and his return from the DL showed that

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        • justinept

          3 years ago

          Completely agree. But as a number of people have pointed – the author of the article included – the Cards can make the trade contingent on an extension being worked out with Machado. While it’s unlikely Machado accepts anything less than an overpay this close to FA, it’s not outside the realm that the Cards give him that. They clearly have the money to spend as evidenced by heir pursuit of Stanton…

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        • justinept

          3 years ago

          I think people question Bird’s desire to play… there was a lot of rumblings that he could’ve played through the ankle problem but chose not to

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        • srechter

          3 years ago

          Tabloid nonsense, I promise you.

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        • justinept

          3 years ago

          Perhaps. But it’s more likely that a reporter got his info from Girardi…

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        • TLB2001

          3 years ago

          Didn’t an earlier story say a Machado trade to the Phillies would be contingent on them having a 72-hour window to negotiate an extension? Seemed odd to me at the time, so I might have misread it.

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        • Astros2333

          3 years ago

          Is that why he was thrown out at Home in the ALCS?

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        • jbigz12

          3 years ago

          Chance Adams and Justus Sheffield are nice prospects but neither one of them is a Manny Machado type impact player, You aren’t trading 2 future #1 starters. Add Andujar to that list. They’re nice prospects might be nice players but they aren’t going to be stars. Manny is. Probably a moot point because Angelos would prefer to not deal with New York anyway. But I don’t know how you could sit back and cry if he did. Machado is a star.

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        • Cardinals17

          3 years ago

          He’s already said his dream was to play I Yankee pinstripes.

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          The fact that he’s eligible for free agency in a year and there is no objective incentive for him to forego free agency says he’s a one year rental.

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        • inside source

          3 years ago

          I feel that the Yankees could trade prospects Chance Adams(RHP) and Thairo(SS/2B) Estrada for Machado.

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        • beisbolista

          3 years ago

          You’re aware this is for only 1 year of Machado versus years and years of control of whatever prospects the Os get in return right?

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          Machado will either be a Yankee this year or next but it’s been the focus for several years. O’s can have Andujar and a pitcher

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          They don’t have anyone better and he would never resign there he is going to be a a Yankee just a matter of which year

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          I’ll give you 5 to 1 Bird plays 130 plus games this year

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        • Steve Mayne

          3 years ago

          Not only would he be a possible one year rental, his salary would almost certainly put the Yankees over the threshold and induce the big tax. The same tax they avoided by getting the Marlins to front the first year of Stanton’s contract.

          So, if they take on Machado, he won’t just cost them his salary, but a HUGE tax, unless they can offload more salary or get the Orioles to pay. I jsut don’t see that happening with other suitors available that likely wouldn’t force the O’s to cover some of the money.

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        • bronxbombers

          3 years ago

          Wrong the marlins paid 30 mill off the entire contract the tax number is calculated off AAV so it would decrease his contract by 2.3 million

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        • Pax vobiscum

          3 years ago

          Wrong

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        • baseball30214

          3 years ago

          Steve Mayne-Yanks have 35 million in space. He’s set to make 11.5 million. Easily affordable

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        • Vedder80

          3 years ago

          No he didn’t.

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        • thetruth

          3 years ago

          How do you know?

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      • rickerbocker

        3 years ago

        Sure Cashman is stupid. He just traded for Stanton’s contract coming off a season that Stanton will never be able to duplicate. How many times has Stanton been hurt? Cashman will continue to make bad moves. You just watch and see.

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        • Yankeepatriot

          3 years ago

          If he was stupid he would have said no to that lopsided trade for a player they could easily afford and still be under the tax threshold after the deal was done

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        • brewcrew08

          3 years ago

          Hard to say the Stanton deal was lopsided. Taking on 300M is no small price to pay. I think we can all agree the Yankees win the deal now but in 4 years when Stanton is making 30M at age 35 it’ll be flipped.

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        • JDGoat

          3 years ago

          It was t a lopsided trade

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        • Mark Z

          3 years ago

          This is the dumbest reply ive seen so far today….

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        • brewcrew08

          3 years ago

          How? You’re telling me in 5 years the Yankees will want Stanton and his salary? Come on now. That’s what the Yankees do. They pay up (always too much) for the big names in their primes and once they hit 33-38 they are regretting it. Ellsbury, ARod..

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        • Joe Kerr

          3 years ago

          Not stupid for trading for the NL MVP and being able to keep his team under the luxury tax. He improved his team drastically with the trade, that makes you smart, not stupid. Besides once we see the contracts for Harper and Machado next year, Stanton’s will look like a steal.

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        • Dark1150

          3 years ago

          yeah, if they have 3 chips by then they won’t care.

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        • C-Daddy

          3 years ago

          Um, in four years Stanton will be 32….

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        • TLB2001

          3 years ago

          Um, there is almost zero chance he doesn’t opt out unless he gets his legs amputated or something.

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        • billneftleberg

          3 years ago

          Idiot Stanton is 27

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          How in the world can you call somebody else an idiot and not even use something as simple as Google to fact check beforehand? Truly unbelievable.

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        • prdrnyc

          3 years ago

          lol yeah offense was really the yankees problem. Cashman made the trade because he could. Any other GM would do the same.

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          Lol and only cost him 15 mill a yr and nothing else. Good chance the restructure in opt out 3 yrs lol

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        • bucnole31658

          3 years ago

          They have about 7 MLB level starters right now

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          Hey! 27 4 = 31 NOT 35! Why do people say stupid crap like this when it can be looked up

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          Lazy or Idiot? or Lazy Idiot?

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        • thetruth

          3 years ago

          He’ll opt out and won’t be re-signed.

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        • abriel123

          3 years ago

          In 5 years Stanton won’t even be that old. Stanton has a lot left in the tank and the Yankees were able to get far in the playoffs without him, he’s not going to hurt. Although Stanton may not be having the monster season he just had, he is still an amazing player who will still be productive to the team. If Stanton can help win a world series then the Yankees win the trade, because that is what they want. Alex Rodriguez helped win the world series for the Yankees back in 09 anyways

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      • Reflect

        3 years ago

        You can make a trade contingent on an extension. Yankees can talk to Machado first, agree to terms and then acquire and extend him in one swoop. Blue jays did it with R.A. Dickey a few years back.

        That’s the only scenario I can see where he goes to the Yankees (or Astros or Dodgers).

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        • Astros2333

          3 years ago

          Astros have Correa at SS.

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        • padam

          3 years ago

          They do, however Machado won his multiple gold gloves at 3B. I think the Astros would move Bregman to another position (or team) if they did trade for him. Personally, I don’t see it happening, nor do the Astros need to trade for him.

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Still no reason for Machado to agree to that

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      • Kayrall

        3 years ago

        “Yankees never trade for rentals. Only the stupid other 29 teams continue to make that mistake.”

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      • prdrnyc

        3 years ago

        As if he’s never done it before. Put the cup full of punch down and open your eyes.

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      • sid24sid24

        3 years ago

        No? Who signed Ellesbury lol

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    • andyb

      3 years ago

      Not in the division

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    • Yankeepride88

      3 years ago

      Orioles won’t trade him to Yankees nor do the Yankees need another RH bat. We need pitching and O’s want 2 pitchers. Yankees wouldn’t be a great fit

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      • prdrnyc

        3 years ago

        Oh my god, finally a yankee fan with a brain! Where have you been?!?!? Don’t hide in the darkness please come into the light!

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    • yukongold

      3 years ago

      How much could a 3.5WAR player with 1 year of control cost? Andujar, Adams and Betances.

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      • jbigz12

        3 years ago

        you treat Machado like a 3.5 war player you don’t get him.

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      • justinept

        3 years ago

        As much as a team is willing to pay … My guess is a number of teams would be willing to offer more than that.

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      • C-Daddy

        3 years ago

        Last year was an anomaly – he’s more likely to be a 6+ WAR player going forward.

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        • raltongo

          3 years ago

          i knew Boras was here somewhere

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      • Moe Mash

        3 years ago

        I think Jordan Montgomery, Justus Sheffield/Chance Adams, Miguel Andujar would have to headline this package with another mid-level prospect thrown in for Baltimore to even consider it. I have faith in Cash to stay patient, and let Machado hit free agency.

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    • Cuso

      3 years ago

      Hard to see them (the O’s) doing an inter-divisional trade.

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    • tonedef

      3 years ago

      It the article it says they won’t trade with the Yankees…. but you never know… they do have a few good pitchers down there, but not sure they’d be willing to deal them for a one year player….

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    • Wesly Marshall

      3 years ago

      Does the article not say that Angelos won’t trade him with the Yankees?

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      • jbigz12

        3 years ago

        Says he doesn’t want To. Want and won’t are completely different. If they throw together an offer with Sheffield andujar and Adams or A deal with torres. It’s probably a different story. Cards, Yankees or dodgers have the most near mlb ready pitching to offer. Add the stros to that but I don’t see a deal for them likely considering they have breg and Correa.

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        • pullhitter445

          3 years ago

          The Chicago White Sox likely have the most quality pitching prospects in the mlb.

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        • jbigz12

          3 years ago

          Kopech, giolito, Lopez, cease is t pretty good too. They don’t have the need for Machado next season though. I still like the cards as having the best. Reyes, Weaver, flaherty, and Alcantra. Both are fantastic but I think Reyes is the best pitcher of the group. Long ways to go on these guys it’ll be interesting to see which group ends up being better.

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          Add Lopez, Hansen, Dunning, and Fulmer into that mix as well for the White Sox – though personally, I’m not too high on Fulmer.

          You’re probably right about Reyes if we are talking pre=injury. Right now though, I think you could easily make an argument in favor of Kopech. Assuming Reyes can come back fully healthy, they are both excellent prospects.

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        • Del Boca Vista

          3 years ago

          Absolutely none of those pitchers from white sox/farm would be offered in that trade.

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        • BennyTheBoss

          3 years ago

          There is no way I’d trade Reyes for a rental who hit .256 last year.

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        • pullhitter445

          3 years ago

          No mention of Alec Hansen or Carlos Rodon for the White Sox. Sox r loaded with arms. I’d trade Rodon along with fulmer to the orioles for manny pending extension upon acceptance. Thoughts?

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        • jbigz12

          3 years ago

          Rodon isn’t a prospect. He’s a nice young starter who might take the next step but he’s as much of a prospect as bundy or Gausman. He’s already used up 2 years of controllability. Gotta cut down on the walks too. Wouldn’t mind getting him back in a deal but he’d have to come with someone like dunning. You may be right though, I could see fulmer and rodon to the O’s. Don’t like fulmer at all but I can definitely see it.

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          I highly doubt they move Rodon or Kopech for a rental. I could see something like Giolito, Fulmer, and another piece though. The only other pitcher I wouldn’t have ANY interest in moving for a rental is Hansen (Dunning is close, but I’d do it if the rest of the deal was relatively light).

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          3 years ago

          Too much. Giolito was good when he came up last year and would have years of cheap control left. I wouldn’t give up five more years of him for one non-contending year of Machado, much less give up other guys too.

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        • Rallyshirt

          3 years ago

          I’m sorry, your proposals are way off here. It’s a rental. Maybe he stays. Maybe 2 guys tops. And not even 1 top 100.

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    • Kershiser

      3 years ago

      LOL… well if you’re going to go overboard might as well go all the way insanely overboard… pitching might be a better use of prospects… but I guess they could just play for the 14-12 win

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    • lowtalker1

      3 years ago

      Why? Torres (when healthy) or didi can slide into third

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    • mstrchef13

      3 years ago

      Did you not read the part about Angelos saying he would not trade within the division?

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      • tdh732

        3 years ago

        If there is a deal done prior to the season, I think it would have to include a window to sign him to a long term extension (unless he is unwilling to). If that’s the case then it will be lite offers.

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    • Familia1931

      3 years ago

      Red Sox can do this and give the Yanks a run for their money. Offer Xander, JBJ and Groome. Then sign J.D.
      1) Benni CF
      2) Mookie RF
      3) Machado SS
      4) J.D LF
      5) Devers 3B
      6) Hanley DH
      7) Pedroia
      8) Moreland or Santana if he can be had
      9)Vazquez C

      Not bad.

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      • brucewayne

        3 years ago

        Not realistic ! Figure up the cost of that lineup Plus the rest of the team to go with it! Not even possible ! Even for the Red Sox!

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        • bronxbombers

          3 years ago

          Sox would be about 250 mill payroll

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        • Familia1931

          3 years ago

          Not out of the question at all. Machado will make 11.5 mill and JD maybe 20-25.
          JBJ and Xander areset to get 14 combined on arbitration. Adding 10 mil for Manny and JD should be plenty worth it.

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        • Familia1931

          3 years ago

          123 mil in commited payroll so far.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          Machado will make almost $18 million in 2018 .

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          That’s exactly it. There are plenty of other things the Phillies could get for that much money and the prospects you know they would have to give up in a Machado trade and most of those things would contribute to the Phillies beyond 2018 while Machado won’t.

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    • Familia1931

      3 years ago

      Red Sox Pls

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  2. Lefty_Orioles_FanLefty_Orioles_Fan

    3 years ago

    #DoIt

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  3. Yankeepatriot

    3 years ago

    Any team trading for him now would be beyond stupid

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    • andyb

      3 years ago

      Not stupid just have to understand it’s for one year of service, price has to match that.

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      • Yankeepatriot

        3 years ago

        He’s a top 5 position player in mlb so even one year is a ton. Plus he might not resign with who trades for him. It’s a giant risk

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        • andyb

          3 years ago

          The real complicating factor is Peter Angelis

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        • thetruth

          3 years ago

          1. Mike Trout 2. Bryce Harper 3. Jose Altuve 4. Carlos Correa 5. Nolan Arenado in no particular order.

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        • heffomite

          3 years ago

          Correa, Arenado, and Machado are a wash. You could plug those three in any order and it would basically be correct.

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      • Meh Sheep

        3 years ago

        By trading for him now you would also get a draft pick back when he left.

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      • pullhitter445

        3 years ago

        Only worth trading for the 1 year of his services if your team can potentially win the World Series in 2018. Unless the trade only happens with an extension I don’t see Baltimore getting much back. They would have been wise to deal him a last year.

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    • PasswordIsPassword

      3 years ago

      Dude you need to buy a clue.. get a clue.. heck I’ll loan you a clue!

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    • justinept

      3 years ago

      No team is dealing for him w/o a 72-hour window that allows them to do an extension. No window, no trade.

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    • hiflew

      3 years ago

      Unless you are convinced that he will be willing to sign an extension with a new team. Star players HAVE signed extensions before hitting the open market before. Look at Stephen Strasburg, who would have been far and away the best starter last offseason who re-upped with the Nats. If a team like Philadelphia wants him long term, it would make to trade for him now and have a full year of exclusive negotiation rights for contract than to wait for the open market and have to compete with everyone else and hope yours is the best offer.

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      • Red_Line_9

        3 years ago

        Teams will request an extension window likely. This is what would make Machado sensible for Philadelphia. He makes sense for a swath of teams if he’s amiable to an extension. Hard to imagine he wouldn’t want to test the market though.

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        • GoRav114GoRav114

          3 years ago

          I think if he was willing to sign an extension he would have with the O’s. He may not necessarily want to test free agency but there is only a handful of teams I could see him signing an extension with prior to going to free agency.

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      • schwindt

        3 years ago

        Phillies are terrible why in hells gate would he go there

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        • raltongo

          3 years ago

          because they have the desire and financial capability to offer him the largest contract.

          they will pursue that in FA next year though. a trade for him now will completely derail the rebuild and wont push them into the 2018 post season, so i see zero chance of a phils trade.

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      • TheWestCoastRyan

        3 years ago

        They don’t have ANY negotiation rights even if they do trade for him! If he wanted to take an extension it would have happened by now!

        They are going to have to outbid everyone else to sign him no matter what, so why would they want to give up prospects on top of that?

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        • hiflew

          3 years ago

          It wouldn’t have happened by now if he doesn’t want to stay in Baltimore. Which could be a reason why the Orioles are shopping him.

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          “Yeah, why not? This is the organization I play for, this is the organization I love.” -Machado when asked if he’d be interested in staying in Baltimore beyond 2018.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          What do you mean they don’t have negotiation rights? Explain please! Wouldn’t any team trading for Machado have ALL his rights

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          and be 1st in line when it came to negotiations ?

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Not if he stonewalls them (which he should and likely will)

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        • Del Boca Vista

          3 years ago

          Why take that literally?

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        • mriescher

          3 years ago

          If he said I hate it here I want out then he drives down his own value in free agency

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          How so?

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          Oh! That tired old argument AGAIN! U might be right in this case with Machado

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          But ur not always right !

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Why do you always feel the need to post multiple comments for the same thought?
          And my argument is no more tired than the excuses others make for why player x should forego free agency when he’s already more or less there.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          Because I’m not afraid to call you on your BS when you keep posting the same old BS over

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          and over about free agency! We know your opinion about it. But it doesn’t always happen the way you say it will. There are other factors involved . You are not ALWAYS right! Get over yourself!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          I mean why do you break your comment up into two separate comments? Posting it all in one comment is completely sufficient.
          I never said I was always right. Thanks tho!

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  4. MySoxAreRed

    3 years ago

    Gardner
    Machado
    Judge
    Stanton
    Sanchez
    Didi
    Bird
    Torres
    Hicks

    Oh god

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    • shoheiohtahnyy

      3 years ago

      Add Rafael Palmaiero and then I’ll start to plan the parade.

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    • MOVeganNutz27

      3 years ago

      This is the most downvoted comment I’ve ever seen on MLBTR. Nice work.

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      • Tim McCollum

        3 years ago

        quite possibly the opening day lineup next year.

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    • The_Porcupine

      3 years ago

      Angelos would have to keel over dead for Machado to go to the Yanks. There is still a lot of bitterness about Mussina and Teixeira going there.

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    • boms78

      3 years ago

      All you Yankee fans need to pay more attention to earlier posts. Machado will NOT be traded within the division unless the O’s get a Kong’s ransom in return. Also Parker of the trade to any team is contingent on a 72 hour extension window with whoever makes a trade for Manny

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    • BSPORT

      3 years ago

      Would rather see Yanks trade for Arenado.

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  5. JulianH

    3 years ago

    Serious post here:

    Who are the potential trading partners for Baltimore – so who has these 2 young controllable starters and would actually be able to pull it off??

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    • Yankeepatriot

      3 years ago

      Many teams can but he will 100% test the market so what’s the point of trading for a guy who might not even return?

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      • Joe Kerr

        3 years ago

        The point would be to do everything you can to win the World Series.

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    • bastros88

      3 years ago

      Cardinals, Rockies (although they don’t have room)

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      • raltongo

        3 years ago

        Cards organization is too smart to jeopardize the future on a one-year push with Machado. They are more than one piece away from the World Series conversation, so it really makes no sense for them. A trade for Ozuna seems like much more of a Cardinals-esque move

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    • andyb

      3 years ago

      Cardinals would likely be the favorite but they may be hesitant since they will very likely lose him to the Yankees in FA

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      • baseballpun

        3 years ago

        I can’t imagine they’d do it without trying to work out an extension first, and I can’t imagine theyd’ be able to do that.

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        • PasswordIsPassword

          3 years ago

          Trade for machado an offer him 10 325 with a big signing bonus say 25 mil and he can play short.. think he says no to that?

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        • Kslaw

          3 years ago

          Probably. That would be a deal he could get easily on the open market and he would have his pick of teams. If they trade him to a team he doesn’t want to play for then yes he says no.

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        • Benklasner

          3 years ago

          Its probably more like 13/400

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        • PasswordIsPassword

          3 years ago

          If those last three years are option years sure but no team is giving him until he’s 38.. baseball is changing people

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        • Joe Kerr

          3 years ago

          I disagree, there will be so many teams that want him that someone will. 38 isn’t that old anyways, if Cano and Pujols can get deals that take them until they are 41, someone will give him 13 years at least and it will probably have multiple opt-out years. Not saying its a good thing, just saying he will get it.

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        • GoRav114GoRav114

          3 years ago

          That’s about what I think he’ll get in free agency. I don’t think he will sign it as an extension though.

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          15/$510m and he can opt out after every season.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          That contract is NOT gonna happen! EVER!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          I know. And neither is Machado foregoing free agency.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          U don’t know that for sure! It prob will happen, but it doesn’t ALWAYS !

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          There is no objective incentive for him to forego free agency at this point.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          There are always other factors involved! I already proved that the last time with the Justin Upton case! You were WRONG! Get over it! Move on!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          No there aren’t and you are the one who keeps bringing that up so you get over it.

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      • Vedder80

        3 years ago

        The Stanton trade likely took the Yankees out of the market for both Machado and Harper.

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        • boms78

          3 years ago

          Someone is finally paying attention. You are correct

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        • BruceBochyistheMarlboroMan

          3 years ago

          Pretty sure I said that on a Stanton thread sometime within the past couple days.

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        • MurderersRow27

          3 years ago

          It takes them out of the market for Harper, but doesn’t impact their interest in Machado. Not even in the slightest.

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    • sss847

      3 years ago

      white sox could do it. they shouldn’t, but they have the assets

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      • Rallyshirt

        3 years ago

        And the need. I just don’t know if they’d put up those kind of dollars for anyone. Already have franchise players just starting to impact. Would Machado put them on the back burner? What about next year’s FA pool? It’s a tough call.

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        • sss847

          3 years ago

          they’re not competing for the playoffs this year so it doesn’t make sense to trade 2 starters for a rental. if their prospects show up this year it could convince their cheap ownership to shell out some cash for a guy like machado.

          i wouldn’t peg them as a favorite for any of the top free agents next year (or any year) though because of their cheap owner

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        • Rallyshirt

          3 years ago

          I’m not talking about buying the playoffs. RR and the Sox culture is starting. Players gotta be sick of this-team-that-team $$ crap by now. It’s not season result, it’s whether Machado is a good fit to make a move on.

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        • hiflew

          3 years ago

          They will have nearly a 365 day window to do an extension. He’s not a rental if you convince him to sign an extension. Everyone has a price. Look at Strasburg, who EVERYONE was convinced would be on the open market, and who signed an extension during the season.

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        • Rallyshirt

          3 years ago

          My thoughts exactly. Machado gets some time on this ballclub and he ain’t going back to “bad music” and “tranced out fans” elsewhere ever again.

          And you know it.

          But does a move like this make sense now?

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        • sss847

          3 years ago

          probably not.

          machado’s clearly a great baseball player and an upgrade for pretty much every infield, definitely a huge upgrade for the white sox

          there’s no indication that reinsdorf will authorize the kind of money it would take to extend him. so you’re trading good prospects/pitchers that you already have under contract for a while for 1 year of machado with the possibility of convincing him to sign a long term deal. thats a high premium..

          i don’t think the orioles reported asking price is worth it for the white sox right now. its probably worth it to a team that is making a run this year, but thats not the sox.

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        • billneftleberg

          3 years ago

          And if he doesn’t you get Burned. Phillies have a nice farm but can’t afford to lose pieces for nothing

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          He IS a rental if you trade for him and don’t get an extension as part of the trade. Anything that happens afterwards is a separate and irrelevant transaction. Anyway, if Machado was going to sign an extension it would have happened by now.

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Lol you wanna trade two top prospects in order to “build a culture?” Can you say DELUSIONAL?

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        • Rallyshirt

          3 years ago

          It wouldn’t be as costly for White Sox as you might think. We have Welington, maybe another bird flies over?

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        • Rallyshirt

          3 years ago

          6:27pm: The Yankees and White Sox are also interested in Machado

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        • hiflew

          3 years ago

          Did you ever consider that he might not want to sign an extension with the Orioles, but might with a different team?

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          “Yeah, why not? This is the organization I play for, this is the organization I love.” -Machado when asked if he’d be interested in staying in Baltimore beyond 2018.
          Oh yeah, sounds like a player who is just itching to get out of Baltimore LOL!

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          What? Oh let me guess, you are gonna bring up the Upton/Free Agent signing scenerio again aren’t you? LoL! Dude! I just had to bring that up one more time to bust your balls ! I actually think you have lots of smart ideas, but that Upton/Free Agent thing wasn’t one of them! LMAO!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          You know what really wasn’t a smart idea? Upton taking that extension. He’d have gotten more money FROM THE ANGELS in free agency.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          U don’t know that

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          U were wrong! Just admit in that case at least!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Yeah I do know that and forgive me for expecting people to act in their best interest

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          WoW! You finally admitted you were wrong! We’ll I’ll be damned ! Now that wasn’t so hard now was it? The thing is that it’s THEIR life

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          I know and that’s exactly it. If Upton had waited out free agency for two more weeks he could have gotten more money FROM THE ANGELS! Better for HIS life that he does that.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          and their decisions ! Let them make it ! It’s not up to me or you to decide what’s best for them! Ok! Let’s move on! Please try

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          to not be so arrogant

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          or pretentious on here

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          Try talking with people

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          and not TO them! Ok? Thanks! Have a great day!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Getting more money FROM THE ANGELS is indeed what’s best for him. Come on, more money! He had nothing to lose and everything to gain by waiting out free agency.
          And why did you feel the need to break that up into 5 different comments?

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          U still don’t get it do u? Y do u think it’s up to u to decide what’s right for a player? That’s delusional ! U need some serious help!

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          By the way, it’s the app breaking up my comments douche bag, not me! As if it’s any of your business anyway. You don’t run these comment sections like you think you do. Get over yourself! You are not always right, even though you think you are!

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          It’s HIS life moron, not yours, not up to YOU! Get over yourself !

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          I know it’s his life r-tard. And it would be better for his life to wait out free agency to wait out free agency and get more money from the Angels. Why should he take less money from the Angels when he can get more money from the Angels? Give me one good reason. Idiot.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          I don’t have to give u any reasons ! Upton had his reasons for signing! That’s the FACTS! So again , u were wrong AND your still a know-it-all egotistical pretentious douche bag!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Yeah you do. They aren’t good reasons. And you’re*. Work on that grammar.

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    • tytomkiel

      3 years ago

      The Diamondbacks could use him at short

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    • forwhomjoshbelltolls

      3 years ago

      The Pirates have a lot of young pitching. But…don’t have $300 million to pay him.

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    • MattyWil

      3 years ago

      The White Sox have Giolito, Lopez, Cease, Dunning, Hansen, Rodon who would all fit what the O’s want plus plenty of position players. Plus they have $ to overwhelm him and many attractive young pieces too

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      • Arthur

        3 years ago

        I feel like an offer of Fulmer, Dunning/Cease, and Burger are able to get a deal done, with the condition the sox get a window to work out an extension and throw him some big money.

        I would be even be ok with adding an Adolfo type of player to make it a 4-1.

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          In theory, it could make sense for both teams and there’s a good fit on each side. In reality, I don’t see any way Jerry hands out a $300+ mil contract – and I don’t necessarily blame him.

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    • boss61

      3 years ago

      Dodgers, Cardinals.

      O’s ownership will not trade him within the division unless the return is overwhelming.

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    • outinleftfieldoutinleftfield

      3 years ago

      Cardinals.

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  6. pro4pro32goathletics

    3 years ago

    The Yankees could offer Jordan Montgomery and Luis Cessa, but I don’t see this deal without Chance Adams involved. These three combined should get it done, not sure the Yankees will pull the trigger on that, I don’t think they should.

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    • bastros88

      3 years ago

      that’s not nearly enough to get the job done. It would have to involve Clint Frazier, Chance Adams, and others

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      • pro4pro32goathletics

        3 years ago

        I believe the O’s should trade Machado this year with Britton etc. The Yankees would be stupid to trade Frazier, Adams and other like Montgomery for a guy, who has only 1 year of control. The Yankees in my opinion should say, that Cessa and Montgomery is max, if not then there is no trade. The O’s won’t just accept the best offer, but should really be thinking about trading Manny

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      • PasswordIsPassword

        3 years ago

        he only has one year of control of course that gets it done

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  7. Luis Jimenez

    3 years ago

    Machado for Swanson, Touissant, Kyle Wright and Austin Riley

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    • PasswordIsPassword

      3 years ago

      Better be an extension signed beforehand.

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    • MikePLV10

      3 years ago

      As long as they could extend him! But don’t think Touissant would you interest the O’s. Maybe Folty, Wright, Swanson and Muller.

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    • Solaris601

      3 years ago

      Braves match up best with BAL on a Machado deal, but as PasswordIsPassword pointed out the Braves would have to work out an extension before pulling the trigger. I can totally see AA making it happen.

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      • MikePLV10

        3 years ago

        Thoughts on ext? Maybe $20mil signing bonus at $320mil over 13yrs?

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        • Joe Kerr

          3 years ago

          That’s less than 25 million per year, he will command much more than that annually.

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        • jred1979

          3 years ago

          Just shy of age 27 at contract start? You’re looking at 3-5 years of prime production of 5-7 wins per year, then gradual decline for 7-10 years afterward. Barring injury or faster than expected decline, I’d think there are more than 40 wins in Machado over the next 10 years. I think you’re looking closer to 10/$350 with an opt-out. Even that may be a bit light.

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  8. WazBazbo

    3 years ago

    Send Machado, Trout, Harper and Kershaw to the Yankees. Give ’em their series title and the papers to file for bankruptcy.

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    • giantboy99

      3 years ago

      Why so salty?

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  9. BrixtonBrixton

    3 years ago

    (As a Phillies fan)
    I don’t want him unless it comes with an extension

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    • tac3

      3 years ago

      Agreed, the extension is key. If he is hell bent on testing the market, well, let him. The Phillies FO can go after him then.

      If it was me, I’d do just about
      Any deal minus Sixto and Kingery. This generations Hamels and Utley. They may not pan out, but I’m not willing to take that gamble. They look like all stars, especially Kingery.

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      • TheWestCoastRyan

        3 years ago

        He’s not going to take an extension. If I’m the Phillies FO I just wait a year, sign him in free agency and keep all my prospects.

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  10. BrixtonBrixton

    3 years ago

    I don’t understand how the owners can buy into DD leading a rebuild. He doesn’t even believe in the international market

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    • bcslouck

      3 years ago

      I’d say it’s Angelos who doesn’t believe in it, not DD.

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      • Coast1

        3 years ago

        I don’t know who it is, but the Orioles have a different philosophy. They have a Dominican League team and sign players, just not the expensive ones. We hear about all these Latinos who make the Majors after getting bonuses under $100k. The Orioles don’t believe that paying $1.5 million for someone is a good investment. The Orioles view is that they’d rather trade the international money for more advanced prospects and roll the dice on finding gems. It may be smarter.

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        • jbigz12

          3 years ago

          It is not smarter. Don’t sit here and tell me trading your international money for prospects like Milton Ramos and Chris lee is smarter. We trade our money for guys who are at best utility men or maybe the off chance we can find a guy who is a decent reliever. You could sign that in IFA easily.

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  11. neworleanstaints

    3 years ago

    Pirates’ Cole for Orioles’ Machado?

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    • andyb

      3 years ago

      Both teams should be reloading

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    • Yankeepatriot

      3 years ago

      No way the pirates spend 30 million on an extension if he agrees to work one out. It’s a waste for the pirates

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    • AllRiseForTheJudge

      3 years ago

      The Pirates don’t contend for their own division, let alone a championship, by adding Machado while KEEPING Cole. What makes you think trading Cole for a year of Machado makes them better?

      It’s a lateral move. Nobody is beating the Cubs for the central the next two years.

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      • bearcat6

        3 years ago

        The Cubs will begin to fall when their major actors reach free agency! it’s coming.

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        • simschifan

          3 years ago

          That’s quite a ways away

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      • neworleanstaints

        3 years ago

        I suggested Cole FOR Machado. Not sure where you got the idea of keeping Cole while acquiring Machado. Perhaps you can’t read? Either way, the deal won’t happen because they both like bad deals. Meaning Machado and Cole will both be shipped out for basically nothing – quantity over quality.

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      • brucewayne

        3 years ago

        Don’t bet the farm on that! The Cubs pitching is going downhill very fast!

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    • mstrchef13

      3 years ago

      Even up? Not a chance.

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      • neworleanstaints

        3 years ago

        Agree. Cole is far more valuable. A possible ace is always better than a possible cornerstone 3B. Neither have reached their potential though.

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  12. Pax vobiscum

    3 years ago

    The only way that kind of deal is done is if there is a window to negotiate an extension.

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  13. Frank kemble

    3 years ago

    From what I’ve seen, The Phillies were pushing last night and the Yankees today. Probably offers with contract extensions included. Thing is Baltimore has 3 rotation spots open…Philly has a surplus of young starters more so than the Yankees, plus prospects and a huge checkbook just as deep as the Yankees right now.

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    • jbigz12

      3 years ago

      The Phillies don’t have a surplus of young starters. They have a surplus of guys who may be #5 pitchers or nothing at all.

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    • Caseys Partner

      3 years ago

      The Phillies have more money to spend than any other MLB team by a lot, like more than $100 million AAV more than any other team.

      That’s exactly why they should spend nothing now and sign both Harper and Machado next winter.

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  14. Wainofan

    3 years ago

    Go get him Mo. Dejong traded or moved to third.

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    • troll

      3 years ago

      mo isn’t the gm anymore, where you been?

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      • PasswordIsPassword

        3 years ago

        Theo isn’t the GM in chick either but how much do you think Jedd actually does?

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      • stl_cards16

        3 years ago

        Just like Theo isn’t the Cubs GM.

        Mozeliak is still the head of baseball ops and has the final say.

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    • baseballpun

      3 years ago

      Gotta get him to agree to an extension. What would it take? 10 yr, 350 mil with an opt-out after 3 years?

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      • IBFarr

        3 years ago

        I would have the opt out at year 6

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        • baseballpun

          3 years ago

          I would too if I had my way, but Machado is going to want to hedge against the possibility that Harper signs a $400 million deal next year.

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    • dicksickle

      3 years ago

      You don’t get better by trading Dejong. Slide him to third and trade some of that young pitching.

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  15. Yankeepatriot

    3 years ago

    If machado agrees to work out an extension only then would this trade be worth perusing

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    • PasswordIsPassword

      3 years ago

      From stupid to oh yeah if there’s a window it’s a good trade.. lmao I’ve been reading teams would require a window for extension of Manny for a few weeks now its not like the guys who get paid to run,in some cases,billion dollar companies didn’t think if that bro

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      • Yankeepatriot

        3 years ago

        It’s stupid if there isn’t an extension window. That was my point from earlier. I didn’t make that clear lol

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  16. Cuso

    3 years ago

    They should’ve shopped him last year. Not that the O’s won’t get something good for him right now, but they could’ve got two or three “something goods.”

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  17. dicksickle

    3 years ago

    Do it cardinals! Give them what they want!

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  18. Frank kemble

    3 years ago

    Prediction is Phillies for players I probably dont want to give up as a Phillies fan.. 12 yr 360 million dollar extension. …ish

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  19. BrixtonBrixton

    3 years ago

    Manny Machado for Sixto Sanchez, Adonis Medina, Kevin Gowdy, Maikel Franco and Jhailyn Ortiz
    10/320M extension with an opt out after year 5 (he’ll reenter FA at age 31)

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    • jbigz12

      3 years ago

      Why would the orioles take that garbage. That’s 1 good prospect. Franco is trash.

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      • Coast1

        3 years ago

        Medina and Ortiz are possibly top 100 prospects. No way the Phillies give up all that.

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      • tac3

        3 years ago

        The O’s would kick themselves for passing that deal up… Especially if he walks ..

        The Phillies can get him now, if the front office steps up.

        I can see
        Sixto, Gowdy, Ortiz, Hammer being the main pieces, and then adding our expendibles on that makes sense for the O’s, like Joseph, galvis, Rupp, knapp, William or altherr. So many way for these teams to work it out. the Phillies will offer the most anyways, so MM might as well just realize that.

        Crawford,Kingery,Herrera,Hoskins,Alfaro, and MM… Nice lineup… With another layer of top draft picks to refill the farm.

        Get it done Klentak

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    • Greg Pinto

      3 years ago

      He’s getting more than $320 million to stay off the market.

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  20. Frank kemble

    3 years ago

    Lets see last night they wanted sanchez..kingery..galvis and a mlb pitcher or two last night was some of what i saw floating around.. Gotta be between 300 and 400 i would think.

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  21. stubby66

    3 years ago

    Anybody hear what Brett Lawrie is up to think he would be a great pick up for the Brewers

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  22. IBFarr

    3 years ago

    I’m a Phillies fan, and I hope they wait until FA next year unless they believe someone else will trade for him and extend him. Just don’t give up too many prospects.

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  23. newera36

    3 years ago

    Rosenthal and his never ending infatuation with stirring the Orioles fan base into a frenzy. I don’t believe a word this man says about Baltimore.

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  24. Connorsoxfan

    3 years ago

    2 of E-Rod, Groome, or JBJ, and additional prospects? Devers moves to DH and Bogaerts/Machado at SS and 3B. Boston can then allocate its FA money toward Lynn or Cobb, maybe even Darvish if they want to spend big. Really unlikely since that would cement Devers as a DH, but it is possible.

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    • baseballpun

      3 years ago

      No way they trade intra-division.

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      • Kslaw

        3 years ago

        It says doesn’t want to not that he won’t. If the best offer is from the Yanks or Sox then you have to consider it.

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        • baseballpun

          3 years ago

          If they want to rebuild and contend in 2-3 years, they aren’t going to ship a top-5 player to a division rival.

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        • Kslaw

          3 years ago

          And if you get 2-3 top 5 players back? It’s prospects you never know. Chances are he signs with one of them anyway. Why not take the prospects from them as well so they don’t have those to go with a top 5 player?

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    • AllRiseForTheJudge

      3 years ago

      Why would Baltimore take on Bradley when they’re not close to contending and he’s basically the left-handed Adam Jones?

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      • Connorsoxfan

        3 years ago

        Well, I think they could use another outfielder, Jones is starting to get up there in age, he’s a great defender who can also hit for average, and his 2016 slash line shows the upside he offers. Even if you don’t want to take him on I just suggested 2 of the 3 so take the pitchers and prospects instead.

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    • ctguy

      3 years ago

      Doubt the Orioles would take that from the Sox for Machado. Still not sure they would even consider trading in their division.

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  25. MooseMichaels

    3 years ago

    This has the Cards written all over it. Need to negotiate in a signing window as well though I would think so as to lock him down long term. Couple of outfielders and a couple of pitchers and this is a done deal.

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    • citycat

      3 years ago

      Reyes, O’Neill and Hudson?

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      • Wainofan

        3 years ago

        No Reyes unless they get extension

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        • B3rryP3pcid

          3 years ago

          No Reyes period, I couldnt see the Cardinals sending Reyes anywhere, even for Machado. He is their entire future currently

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    • stl_cards16

      3 years ago

      Machado is not going to pass up free agency, at this point.

      I still say do it. Get that man and we’ll worry about keeping him next year.

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      • brucewayne

        3 years ago

        You are prob right! He’s been waiting this long, what’s 1 more year? But he would sure look good with the Birds on the Bat.

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  26. grimmy_17

    3 years ago

    I️ want him to stay with the O’s this year and then leave and sign with the up and coming White Sox he’d be a perfect fit

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  27. AllRiseForTheJudge

    3 years ago

    Yankees fan here, but what are the chances the Mets try to make a splash and steal the back page from the Yankees? David Wright is done, I think the Mets have accepted that and I think they’re ready to move on.

    The Mets have the starting pitching to win now, but their offense is lacking. They’re looking at bringing back Jay Bruce, and Machado is still affordable for one year. Bringing back Bruce and putting Machado in the middle of that lineup between him and Cespedes makes the Mets scary good in the NL Least, and if they’re not contending at the deadline they can flip him for a net profit to a team that’s a piece away from making a run.

    Legitimately curious what it would take for the Mets to get him.

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    • Tim McCollum

      3 years ago

      How many pieces do the Mets have to trade? How many big trades can they make with them?

      If you can guarantee to sign him then sure I could see them emptying the cupboard to bring him in. The odds of Machado not allowing himself to go to the open market is very very small.

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      • thetruth

        3 years ago

        Matz and Montero or Gsellman or Lugo? Possibly throw in Rosario? Seems light but maybe the Orioles take it?

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        • AllRiseForTheJudge

          3 years ago

          @thetruth – way too light. I also don’t think there’s any way the Mets trade Matz right now. I think any package the Mets could offer has to start with Justin Dunn and David Peterson, probably kick in Gavin Cecchini too. The Mets don’t really have any highly regarded pitching in their system anymore. Montero would probably need to be included as well.

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      • AllRiseForTheJudge

        3 years ago

        Did you even read my comment, though? I’m not even considering anything beyond next year from a Mets perspective. I’m considering that the Mets are two years removed from a trip to the World Series and their window to win is going to close a lot quicker than people think. Harvey is out of gas and needs a change of scenery, and do you really think they’re going to be able to afford all of Thor, DeGrom and Matz in a few years?

        I’m considering next year and only next year. The Mets want to bring back Jay Bruce, which makes a lot of sense for them, but he’s not enough in and of himself to propel them into serious contention. They’re in dire need of someone at third, and Machado is the kind of guy who makes them instant favorites to win the NL East with their rotation. Who knows, maybe it even reenergizes Harvey for a season and they make a real run at a championship. And if not, they flip Machado at the deadline to a team in the hunt and fleece them for prospects.

        Remember, this is the same front office that got Zack Wheeler for two months of Carlos Beltran a few years ago. I’m sure they could get A LOT more for two months of a perennial all-star in July.

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  28. DrewnastyDrewnasty

    3 years ago

    What the heck is a platinum glove? And why does Machado have one?

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    • C-Daddy

      3 years ago

      The best defensive player in each league, irrespective of position, wins the “platinum glove.”

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  29. gendgibson

    3 years ago

    Seems like a good opportunity for STL if they can negotiate an extension, especially since Rosenthal reports that the Orioles are looking for two young controllable pitchers. Only one year of Machado makes it more difficult, but include an extension and this is a good matchup. Slide DeJong over to 3rd so Machado can play SS as well.

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  30. kaido24

    3 years ago

    Cardinals could fill their desire of 2 MLB ready controllable starters, that’s a tall asking price for 1 year of service and no guarantee he will re-sign.

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  31. terry

    3 years ago

    This would have to be a perfect storm trade. Someone that has young pitchers to spare and needs a 3b/ss to put them over the top for the post season. He’s unlikely to sign an extension unless he’s blown away with the offer. Which teams could add that much salary and give up young pitchers? I don’t see anyone in that position at the moment besides maybe the Cards. or the Mets.

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  32. FOmeOLS

    3 years ago

    (Sigh)
    It’s hard to be an Orioles fan.
    Whatever happens will be bad.
    lots of folks point out that no one wanted to work for Angelos.
    But it’s also true that no one else was the least bit interested in hiring Dan.

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  33. Joe Kerr

    3 years ago

    Wow a huge development, not that the O’s are willing to trade Machado, that the O’s are doing something smart :)

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  34. GoRav114GoRav114

    3 years ago

    Machado is a great player but he will not get 325 million. We keep hearing about him and Harper getting 400 million. Harper may get 300 plus but not Machado

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    • Dannydeman

      3 years ago

      He will absolutely get 325 million.

      11/12 year contract 30 million aav

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    • brucewayne

      3 years ago

      325 will be the minimum he gets! Prob closer to 400 million at 12 years!

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  35. marckahn

    3 years ago

    Nobody is giving up anything significant for him unless they can sign him to a long term deal in that 72 hour window that is allowed

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    • Zachary Hines

      3 years ago

      I agree

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  36. Zachary Hines

    3 years ago

    Machado as a cardinal is a great fit. Flaherty Hudson O Neil. Would that get it done?

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    • jred1979

      3 years ago

      A bit much for only one year, I’d think. 5 wins at 8-10 million a win is around 40-50 million, less his projected 18 million arbitration salary is $32 million in excess value for 1 year. A grade 55 pitcher (Flaherty) is worth around $22 million, and a grade 55 hitter (O’Neil) is worth around $38 (per fangraphs a few years ago). With an extension, you may pull the trigger anyway, but without one, you’re significantly overpaying.

      Flaherty and Hudson alone would be plenty, but I’d still want a negotiating window to sign a market value extension, since the Cardinals aren’t really built to put all their chips in for just this year.

      Edit: Steamer has him at 6.3 next year, but I still think all three are a bit much. Toss in a few extra mid-level, or upgrade from Hudson to Alcantra, and I still think a deal could happen. O’Neil plus two pitchers is just too much. Piscotty or Grischuk, maybe, but O’Neil no.

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      • nashvillecardsfannashvillecardsfan

        3 years ago

        If he would agree to $350 over 12, I’d offer that package in a heartbeat.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          All day long if he signs that extension, but I don’t think he will .

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  37. forwhomjoshbelltolls

    3 years ago

    The Pirates should trade a few of their young SP for Machado, sell a bunch of tickets, renegotiate the TV deal and then trade everyone at the deadline.

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  38. radiohead801

    3 years ago

    Theo? You reading? Baez, Tseng, Happ, Russell…two of these for Machado?

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    • Codybellingersgrandma

      3 years ago

      He told me he’s listening. Doesn’t have a mlbtr account though to reply

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  39. acerulli1

    3 years ago

    Hrmm…random thoughts…

    Presumably the Orioles are going to insist on a mammoth haul of prospect value (understandably). Presumably no one is going to pay that price without working out an extension first (understandably). Presumably Machado and Boras are going to insist that an extension be precedent setting this close to free agency (understandably). I would imagine you are looking at a 10-12 year deal starting at least at $350MM with an opt-out somewhere around year 4 or 5 so he can cash in again at 30 or 31 if he is still healthy and performing. It is a little difficult to see all of that coming to fruition, but there are clubs poised to make it happen if Baltimore is serious.

    I cannot, however, see the Orioles trading him within the division and then having to play him 18 times a year for potentially the next decade. The only way I see him in Yankee pinstripes is if he hits the open market. The question other teams have to ask themselves is: How much prospect value is there in acquiring him BEFORE he hits the open market and thus preventing a bidding war?

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    • Vedder80

      3 years ago

      Is Boras even his agent?

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      • acerulli1

        3 years ago

        Thought he was, but no. I should have checked that first.

        Still, my point remains, it doesn’t make sense for him to sign an extension with anyone now unless it is a monster deal.

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    • Wainofan

      3 years ago

      Machado is not a Boras client

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      • Yankeepatriot

        3 years ago

        I shutter to think what he would get if he was

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      • Priggs89

        3 years ago

        Not yet

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    • cky7

      3 years ago

      Even if a trade to NYY was possible, it would be foolish. NYY has Andujar; give him a year (or half year) to prove if he is the answer at 3B. They also have Torreyes, a decent fielder and .280ish hitter. They MIGHT be able to get Frazier on a one year deal. There are several better options than depleting the farm system for a player they don’t need now, and can sign in 2019.

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  40. Soxman81

    3 years ago

    I know the O’s would never do it, but I’d happily trade Xander Bogaerts + JBJ + pitching prospects if it meant we could get Machado and play him at SS.

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    • oriolesravenstimberwolves04

      3 years ago

      And I would take that trade. Orioles need obp and the redsox need power plain and simple. Both teams benefit… and the Red Sox have the farm to pull it off

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  41. simschifan

    3 years ago

    It’s time for a salary cap in baseball.

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    • Caseys Partner

      3 years ago

      Salary cap is already here.

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      • simschifan

        3 years ago

        No I mean like a full on one like hockey

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      • brucewayne

        3 years ago

        No it’s not! Not at all! It’s not a cap. It’s only a suggestive number!

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  42. mstrchef13

    3 years ago

    Machado wants to play in Miami. Why do you think the Marlins just dumped Stanton’s contract for so little return?

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  43. nando

    3 years ago

    Dodgers do something!!!!

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    • bigyoonit

      3 years ago

      They just signed Turner last off-season and have Seager at SS. No room at the inn.

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      • Codybellingersgrandma

        3 years ago

        Turner can play 2nd base

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  44. Arthur

    3 years ago

    The White Sox could hopefully be in on trading for Machado with the condition that they get an extension signed with him.

    Plenty of pitching prospects available for the white sox to offer. A deal could start with Fulmer/Lopez, add Dunning/Cease, and Jake Burger. Could very easily another lottery ticket player such as Micker Adolfo.

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      The White Sox don’t even have a rotation filled. Where did the “excess” pitchers come from? Kansas City and Cleveland both rose by pitching dominance. Chicago doesn’t need to trade what they themselves need.

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  45. ChiSoxCity

    3 years ago

    Forget about Harper for a moment. The Cubs could offer Russell, Schwarber OR Happ, and their top two prospects for Machado. Plug him in at Short and you have one of the best infield’s in baseball history.

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    • Wainofan

      3 years ago

      Cards could blow that offer away

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      • Priggs89

        3 years ago

        Debatable if it’s Russell/Happ. If it’s Schwarber instead of Happ, then yes, they could. Otherwise, it’d come down to personal preference for the Orioles.

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      • baseballpun

        3 years ago

        If the O’s want pitching, I’m sure the Cards could get Machado if they want him. But without an extension, they won’t, and shouldn’t, do it.

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    • canyon2129

      3 years ago

      Believe Baez is going to Tampa for Archer. Schwarber plus to the Orioles.

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      • kiermaier

        3 years ago

        I mean if you want those teams to hang up the phone as soon as possible

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      • JKB

        3 years ago

        Cubs are not trading Schwarber for one year of Machado who is just a luxury the Cubs do not need

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          So your telling me the Cubs wouldn’t/shouldn’t trade Schwarber for Machado? Then I’m gonna say that you have to be the biggest idiot on this whole site! Sorry ! But you brought it on yourself!

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    • JKB

      3 years ago

      Chisoxcity

      Baltimore is looking for only two cost controlled pitching prospects. So why would the Cubs jump in and send Russell and Schwarber or Happ and their top two pitching prospects?

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  46. The_Porcupine

    3 years ago

    San Francisco and St Louis seem to be the best matches to me. Both desperate for an impact bat and has shown a willingness to take on a big salary should Machado sign an extension. No one else can offer the near major league level pitchers that Baltimore would want. And no, they won’t trade with the Yankees or Red Sox- quit dreaming. St Louis has better prospects (2 of Alcantara, Flaherty, Reyes or Weaver gets the deal done probably). Could even expand a deal to include Britton and some of the Piscotty, Grichuk, Gyorko, Wong, etc. group of expendables.. San Fran can offer a major league starter (Cueto or Samardja) and Beedle.

    Realistically though, I doubt anything happens.

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    • Benklasner

      3 years ago

      Why would baltimore want to pay big prices for cueto and shark? They can barely afford to bid on miguel gonzalez.

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    • TheWestCoastRyan

      3 years ago

      “… should Machado sign an extension.”
      Not EVER going to happen.

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      • brucewayne

        3 years ago

        Here we go AGAIN! Justin Upton 2.0

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Yes and Upton was an idiot for foregoing free agency. I think Manny will be smarter.

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        • hiflew

          3 years ago

          He’s an idiot worth over $100 million dollars. I’d be okay with you thinking I was an idiot if I was worth that much.

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          He could have been worth more

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          A very rich idiot whos playing for the Angels. A team he wanted to play for

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          and who he signed an extension for AND gave up free agency! Which proved you WRONG! But u are prob right about Manny in this case anyway!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          Who signing an extension with was not a prerequisite for playing with them and he could have gotten more money from them as a free agent.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          But u don’t know that! It’s only ur opinion ! Accept it! Thanks!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          It’s a fact. You just don’t get it. It’s okay.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          It’s not a fact

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          It was proven there were other factors to signing! That was the proven fact. It was your opinion

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          It’s a fact but that’s ok.

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          on free agency

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        • brucewayne

          3 years ago

          and you were WRONG! It’s not up to YOU!

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          And that’s the problem. He made a poor decision that potentially cost him millions of dollars.

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  47. imindlessimindless

    3 years ago

    Any way angels could swing donaldson? I heard toronto and o’s might be selling.

    Kalhoun
    Trout
    Donaldson
    Upton
    Pujols
    Ohtani
    Simmons
    2nd baseman
    Maldonado

    I think that could rival houston. Im not sure what angels would surrender but donaldson only has 1 year of control.

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  48. Yankeepatriot

    3 years ago

    I want to see him flipped just to see what return he would get lol

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  49. TheWestCoastRyan

    3 years ago

    Why would the Phillies want Machado? To make a run on the Braves and fourth in the division?

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    • jleve618

      3 years ago

      Pretty sure the idea is to get and then extend, or at least have in inside track over the yankees next offseason. You just know with stanton in NY now machado just became their #1 target. Don’t think phillies win that fight without some help.

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      • TheWestCoastRyan

        3 years ago

        He’s not taking an extension and trading for him now doesn’t give them any kind of “inside track” to signing him next offseason. There is only one way to get Machado beyond 2018 and I think you know what that is…

        Trading for Machado now only makes sense if you seriously think you can win a championship in 2018.

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  50. Ed Charles

    3 years ago

    Klentak would be dumb enough to mortgage some future for a guy who hasn’t helped Baltimore win anything special. Pitching staff is a complete joke. Why get a Machado when you have a AA staff. If I’m Machado I laugh at the phillies right now, and yes i’m a phillies fan.

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    • Pax vobiscum

      3 years ago

      Prospects are just that. The Drabeks and d’Arnauds for Halladay and whoever else we gave up for Cliff Lee turned out to be zeros.

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      • TheWestCoastRyan

        3 years ago

        The prospects MIGHT not contribute to the next good Phillies team. Machado DEFINITELY won’t.

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        • Pax vobiscum

          3 years ago

          He’ll be suiting up for the Phillies soon enough. If not 2018 then 2019.

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          If they’re going to have to outbid everyone else in free agency to get him to sign with the team anyway, why would they want to give up prospects on top of that?

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  51. simschifan

    3 years ago

    Manny Machado for Chris Archer. Or is that not enough to get the elite number 1 starter Chris ( cy young) Archer?

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    • jackt

      3 years ago

      Why so angry??

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      • simschifan

        3 years ago

        Not a fan of overrated Archer.

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    • ctguy

      3 years ago

      Not enough to get Machado

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    • brucewayne

      3 years ago

      The Rays will never be able to afford the Manny Machados in MLB ! Sorry! But that’s just the facts!

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  52. ammiel

    3 years ago

    A little curious that the Dodgers didnt get a mention in the rundown of most of the clubs, in the article. Turner fits at 2nd, surely they would be in on Machado after the heart break of the Fall Classic. Needless to say, the Dodgers have plenty of options that would woo the Orioles in terms of prospects.

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  53. werfighting

    3 years ago

    3 year to Phillies

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  54. Bank On It

    3 years ago

    Lol I wouldn’t be doing anything without 72 hr extension window

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    • JKB

      3 years ago

      @bank on it

      So what will you do with the 72 hour window? Work out an extension with Machado? Hahahhaha

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  55. TheWestCoastRyan

    3 years ago

    For real. Why does everyone think it is so easy to extend a perennial All Star just entering his prime who is only a year from free agency? Machado goes to the highest bidder one year from now.

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  56. SoCalAngelsFan75

    3 years ago

    Machado for Parker Bridwell straight up. LOL!

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  57. canajay12

    3 years ago

    Machado for Strasburg who says no?

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  58. mike156

    3 years ago

    Deal won’t happen–although maybe it should. One team that thinks it’s on the cusp, and will offer a QO afterwards to replace some of the talent they will pay now.

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  59. 24TheKid

    3 years ago

    Kyle Lewis, Sam Carlson, Evan White, Gamel, Kyle Seager and Marco Gonzalez for Machado, Jones and Brach. With the money saved from trading the Mariners sign Arietta or Darvish. Go all in 2018 to end the playoff drought, if it’s not working at the deadline start inevitable rebuild then, if they do make the playoffs, sell off all assets during the off-season.

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    • Priggs89

      3 years ago

      I would hate that if I was a Mariners fan.

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      • 24TheKid

        3 years ago

        Hate trying to end a playoff drought?

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        • Priggs89

          3 years ago

          Hate trading away potential big pieces of the future for a 1 year shot at the playoffs.

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        • imindlessimindless

          3 years ago

          You are some kind of special kid.

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        • 24TheKid

          3 years ago

          They haven’t made the playoffs in 16 years, and we are nearing a total rebuild. So why not go all in on one more try, if it’s not working mid season they can sell then. If it does that means the drought will end and fans will be satisfied.

          If they can’t keep a competitive roster for 2019 trade Paxton, Haniger, Diaz, Healy, Darvish/Arietta if signed, Segura, Gordon and Leake. And since this is saying they would be coming off a playoff season would mean that the players would have all had really good years. Trading them would result in a farm way way better than Lewis and a couple other low rated prospects.

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    • fathead112805

      3 years ago

      What $$ they saving by acquiring Machado and Jones exactly?

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      • 24TheKid

        3 years ago

        Kyle Seager is getting paid about 20 million a year for the next 4 years. So 2018 would basically be a wash, but hey would save 20 million a year after that.

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  60. TheHammer16

    3 years ago

    Now that would be quite the offseason cashman….holy smokes haha

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  61. yanks02026

    3 years ago

    Peter Angelos don’t care about whats best for his team. The yankees could probably make a offer better then other teams, but he wouldn’t do it because its the Yankees. Maybe you should focus on doing whats best for your team instead of hating on another team because its a division team.

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    • Priggs89

      3 years ago

      Maybe he realizes that the Yankees could easily extend Machado, and then his team would have to face him for the next 10+ years. Is that really in the best interest of the Orioles? Unless the Yankees are offering Torres (which I don’t see them doing) in addition to Adams AND another TOP prospect or two, other teams can easily match or top that offer. All things being equal (or close to equal), they’re better off moving him out of the division. If the Yankees blew everyone else out of the water with a proposal, I’m sure the Orioles would have no problem taking it.

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      • TheWestCoastRyan

        3 years ago

        Yankees can’t easily extend Machado. They can afford to sign him in a year but that would be the case even if they didn’t trade for him now.

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      • yanks02026

        3 years ago

        Machado will not sign an extension, he will test free agency no matter what.

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  62. pplama

    3 years ago

    Silly
    The White Sox are not pursuing Machado. It’s either due diligence to better gauge a potential return for Abreu, or as part of a 3 team deal, where the Sox get prospects.

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    • Joe Kerr

      3 years ago

      or the O’s would allow a negotiation window and the Sox are willing to pay big time for him

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      • pplama

        3 years ago

        No
        White Sox wouldn’t be offering him his preferred position or nearly enough $ to keep him from going to FA.
        Or, O’s are planting the story because the White Sox have so many quality arms.
        Sox interest isn’t real.
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        • Joe Kerr

          3 years ago

          I’m not saying it’s likely, far from it, I just wouldn’t totally discount it. Maybe they would be willing to give up Tim Anderson as part of the package for him if they were able to work out an extension with Machado

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        • TheWestCoastRyan

          3 years ago

          There’s no “if” wrt to Manny taking an extension. Just like there was no “if” wrt Chapman taking one two summers ago and Justin Upton three years ago.

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        • JKB

          3 years ago

          Joe WTF. Why would Machado work out an extension with the White Sox without testing the free agent waters?

          Machado is not working out an extension with the White Sox in a 72 hour window. Get over it