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Michael Kopech Undergoes Tommy John Surgery

By Jeff Todd | September 19, 2018 at 2:52pm CDT

SEPTEMBER 19: As expected, Kopech has undergone the procedure. He’s not expected back until the start of camp in 2020, per the club.

SEPTEMBER 7: White Sox righty Michael Kopech has been diagnosed with a torn ulnar collateral ligament, the team announced to reporters. Tommy John surgery has been recommended for the highly regarded young hurler.

This news represents a major blow to a rebuilding organization that had hoped to build momentum entering the 2019 campaign. Kopech, 22, had only just arrived in the majors — bringing the promise of an exciting end to a largely forgettable 2018 campaign.

While the long-term hope will remain that Kopech can become a front-of-the-rotation anchor, it’ll have to wait until 2020. Odds are, he’ll be sidelined for all of the 2019 campaign while recovering. The silver lining for the young hurler — and the twist of the dagger for the organization — is that he’ll accrue MLB service time all the while.

Kopech entered the season as one of the game’s brightest pitching prospects, and largely delivered on the hype in his first full season at Triple-A. He turned in 126 1/3 innings of 3.70 ERA ball, with 12.1 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9, before receiving his first call-up to the majors.

Upon his promotion, Kopech turned in three eye-opening outings in the majors to close out the month of August. Though he was limited to just 11 total frames owing to the whims of Mother Nature, the youngster allowed just a single earned run while racking up nine strikeouts against one walk.

Unfortunately, the flamethrower exhibited a velocity decline in his most recent outing, an 82-pitch dud in which he allowed seven earned runs on nine hits (including four long balls) in just 3 1/3 innings. It seems that something wasn’t quite right, clearly, as the organization ordered testing that identified the newly revealed injury.

To this point, the South Siders’ efforts to build a new core have run into the realities of exposing young players to the majors. There’s still plenty of promise, but the aggregate output is a 56-84 record. And strides for some players have occurred alongside struggles for others — especially in the rotation.

When the Sox traded away Chris Sale and Adam Eaton in the 2016-17 offseason, kicking the club’s rebuild into top gear, the result was a farm system that many considered one of the best in the sport. In addition to delivering top position playing prospect Yoan Moncada, that pair of swaps delivered a haul of new pitching talent.

There has been promise along the way for the hurlers, with Kopech shining as one of the brighter lights. Prospect Dane Dunning has as well, though he has been on ice since late June owing to a balky elbow. Those pitchers that have already spent significant time in the majors, though, haven’t yet delivered on their promise.

True, southpaw Carlos Rodon has put together nearly a hundred frames of 2.89 ERA ball this year after returning from his own injury problems. But even that effort has come with questions, as Rodon’s breakout in the results department has come in spite of peripheral declines. A similar early showing from Reynaldo Lopez has now corrected over the course of the full season. Other young pitchers — Lucas Giolito, Dylan Covey, Carson Fulmer — have continued to run into troubles in the majors.

At this point, the outlook of the 2019 rotation is at best uncertain. Without Kopech, the unit appears decidedly less exciting. Exactly how that’ll impact the team’s offseason plans remains to be seen, but there’s obviously potentially another hole to be filled. Of course, there’s also less cause for the organization to believe it can move into a truly competitive stance.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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  1. bucketbrew35

    7 years ago

    Damn, that sh*t is just devastating right there….get will soon Michael..

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  2. matt41265

    7 years ago

    rest in peace

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      This isn’t TOS.

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    • Kayrall

      7 years ago

      RIP

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      I know you being a Cubs fan, the rivarly runs deep, and can totally relate to that with those Boston Red Sox, but this kid is a special talent!

      He threw 110MPH! (Video proof below)

      twitter.com/teamAPEC/status/821427846241546240?s=2…

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      • xabial

        7 years ago

        I think he’ll be ok. Like I said TOS seems to be the career-killer these days, not TJ.

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      • thepapacy

        7 years ago

        And this is why he is having Tommy John surgery. Not directly but bc he throws so hard. They say the max a ball should be throw at or something like that is 94 or 95 bc those ligaments just aren’t strong enough to throw harder..every 98 mph pitch is one pitch closer to tj surgery.

        If I wasn’t to busy I’d look for a link but I’m pretty sure it was James Andrews who was the one I seen speaking.

        And I am a white Sox fan not a hater

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        He never thru 110 off a mound in a game

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      • rocky7

        7 years ago

        Get out of here with 110MPH!
        You need to check that Twitter that is resting on your shoulders!

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        • Polymath

          7 years ago

          He was in his Porsche driving at twice the speed limit and tossed a ball out the window — 110 MPH. ‘‘Tis possible.

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        • MetsYankeesRedSox

          7 years ago

          What would Einstein say?

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          “Get out of here with 110MPH!
          You need to check that Twitter that is resting on your shoulders!”

          Twitter was the original source. Perhaps, you’d trust Chicago Tribune:

          The Headline: “White Sox pitching prospect Michael Kopech throws 110 mph in drill”

          It’s old story (January 2017) but one thought still worth sharing. Article also listed all the different conditions Kopech faced that enabled him to throw 110. Idc if it was a non-game, him throwing 110 (game or not) makes me want to root for him.

          chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/redeye…

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          Aren’t you a Yankee fan? (like me) Love the added bonus he was a Red Sox prospect traded for Sale. Though Boston is winning the trade so far, yet another reason to root for this kid.

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      • davidcoonce74

        7 years ago

        This looks like the most harmful possible drill ever devised by a company that claims to train elite athletes. My lord, no wonder he’s hurt..

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    • Strauss

      7 years ago

      So now it looks like the w. Sox only got a second baseman who barely hits .220 for Chris Sale.

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      • RedRooster

        7 years ago

        Didn’t know Tommy John surgery was a career ender

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        Great take, Strauss. Moncada is incapable of developing and kopech might as well hang his cleats up. You nailed it.

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  3. sidewinder11

    7 years ago

    Yikes. This sucks for all baseball fans. He looks like he’s going to to special

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    • rocky7

      7 years ago

      Wow, you can tell that this early in his professional career after what 3 major league starts? You should be on TV!

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  4. walls17

    7 years ago

    first mac miller, now this. what a terrible day

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      I’ll take “one thing has nothing to do with the other for 100”

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      • lilpartialbaldo

        7 years ago

        100? When’s the last time you watched Jeopardy bro?

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          20years at least

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      • Begamin

        7 years ago

        he didnt say those events caused one another, just that both events made his day worse

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          I understand that but this is about baseball not a nobody rapper

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          The guy’s dead. He was 26. I’m not sorry for the irrelevance. Grow up, and learn to ignore posts.

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    • brewcrewer

      7 years ago

      RIP Mac

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  5. hoosierdaddy

    7 years ago

    I noticed that his velocity was down during his last outing and he gave up 4 dingers. This would explain why that happened.

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    • Joe Kerr

      7 years ago

      I was thinking that too but obviously hoping not. This sucks.

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    • JJB

      7 years ago

      Agreed, I read his lips at the beginning of the game with whoever the catcher is. He said “hey catcher fellow, I blew out my elbow but I’m going to pitch anyway, OK man?”

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  6. mmarinersfan

    7 years ago

    So upsetting.

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  7. Free Clay Zavada

    7 years ago

    Felt like the White Sox had been getting some nice breaks lately, guess it was about time…

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    • Voice of Reason

      7 years ago

      I know Clay Zavada. We’re from the same town.

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      • Konerko 4 Prez

        7 years ago

        I’m also from that town. Go Bulldogs.

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  8. kylebarn26

    7 years ago

    should’ve never brought him up, they should havr shut him down for the season.

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    • Jockstrapper

      7 years ago

      Thanks for being that guy!

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      What did bringing him up do to his arm? That’s the dumbest thing I have ever heard

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  9. RedRooster

    7 years ago

    RIP

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    • nmc420theambassador

      7 years ago

      trade gore before this happens

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      • MetsYankeesRedSox

        7 years ago

        Al Gore invented TJS

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      • Thomas Bliss

        7 years ago

        Frank Gore?

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      Terrence gore is on the Cubs

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      • gleybertorres25

        7 years ago

        Mackenzie Gore

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        • brewcrewer

          7 years ago

          Gore is not horror

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  10. ThePriceWasRight

    7 years ago

    2 takeaways

    1. it’s devastating but based on how it rained everyone he pitched this might result in less weather delays in Chicago.

    2. we likely won’t see eloy up till 2020 now.

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    • 24TheKid

      7 years ago

      Don’t think this effects Eloy, and if that happens I think his agent may have a real case.

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      • ThePriceWasRight

        7 years ago

        I agree but It wouldn’t surprise me if they figure this pushes back the window a bit and they delay him a bit longer.

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    • Jbigz12

      7 years ago

      There’s no chance they can hold eloy back in AAA for another season. The news to kopech is devastating but In all likelihood you’ll see dunning, cease, and maybe even Alec Hansen at some point next year.

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  11. philsox

    7 years ago

    Urgh that’s not good, was looking forward to watching him pitch. Hopefully he comes back strong.

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  12. leprechaun

    7 years ago

    Send him and Moncada back to Red Sox. We gave up the best pitcher in baseball Sale for 2 pieces of trash

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    • Brett3333

      7 years ago

      Note. Sale isnt exactly 100% healthy right now either. Moncada’s 22 y/o season isnt great but not a disaster as he is within 10 points of OPS of Brian Dozier. 2B is thin right now. Throw in the 50+ ball 4s called a strike messing up his BB/K numbers. He will be ok.

      Basabe has had a good year between A+/AA with an OPS ~800.

      Kopeck will be back in 2020.

      Let’s see how this looks in 2020.

      b-

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    • Powers McInnis

      7 years ago

      While I think Red Sox won the deal, it is still very early. Kopech has the makings of a top end starter for sure and Moncada will at least be above average power and speed second baseman with potential for more. Better days are ahead. Sincerly a red sox fan who thinks the white sox will be good soon

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      7 years ago

      The Red Sox aren’t winning any deal unless Chris Sale helps them to the promised land before his contract (and options) expire. Even if they do win the World Series the White Sox could match or exceed that number with their haul of players before all is said and done. Hopefully both teams will win this trade meaning titles for both color Sox.

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      • Powers McInnis

        7 years ago

        Totally agree that it would be nice for both teams to get that final win of the season. Both have teams well set up for future years. Baseball looks bright!

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        The Sox won this trade because they needed chris sale now, not chris sale in 5 years. They don’t need a guy struggling through the majors like Moncada is now. Though they have Devers occupying that role. The White Sox may end up with some high quality players and do well for themselves to but these injuries and lack of production from Moncada show exactly why the Red Sox were smart to make the deal.

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  13. Brett3333

    7 years ago

    The Sox weren’t going to win it all in 2019. The timing now is better than next Sept. I think 2020 could be very interesting. Get well MK and we will rock it in 2020.

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  14. camdenyards46

    7 years ago

    This sucks

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  15. SilvioDante

    7 years ago

    April Fools, right? Brutal news … just when there seemed to be light coming from the dark and Danny tunnel … we were looking at a top 3 in Kopech, Rodon and Cease next year w Lopez and Gio holding down the fort on the back end … I think I’m going to puke!

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    • ThePriceWasRight

      7 years ago

      cease was not starting the season on the team.

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    • Jbigz12

      7 years ago

      You could still see cease and dunning by mid season 2019. You weren’t competing for a playoff spot just yet. It sucks but it would’ve been much worse if it came at the end of next season. 2020 is when the window could open up for you.

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    • Mishimacool

      7 years ago

      Is Danny Tunnel another budding prospect in his own right?

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  16. Kayrall

    7 years ago

    From a Northsider to my bros on the south side, Sorry to hear that. Never good news when top flight young talent gets hurt. Hopefully he can make it back quickly and successfully.

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  17. Voice of Reason

    7 years ago

    He threw more innings this season than any other season. Why in the world did they bring him up to throw in meaningless games? What a bone head move by the White Sox. Seriously.

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    • ThePriceWasRight

      7 years ago

      yeah because those extra like 7 innings he may have thrown over AAA did him in.

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    • Priggs89

      7 years ago

      He threw 134.1 innings in 2017. He’s currently at 140.2 for 2018. Would you like him to never throw over 134.1 innings in his career? Should they set an innings limit and never let him go over exactly 134.1 innings?

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  18. Blah blah blah

    7 years ago

    Hahaha. Serves the arrogant fans right.

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      Idiot

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  19. everlastingdave

    7 years ago

    Cool, this season apparently hasn’t been terrible enough already.

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  20. Houston We Have A Solution

    7 years ago

    I saw some user comment on the jose berrios article kopech > berrios.

    This is 100% their fault.

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  21. Richard Hangslow

    7 years ago

    There aren’t many sports stories that make my stomach drop but this did it.

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  22. johnny53811

    7 years ago

    Hopefully this doesn’t cost him velocity because he’s so good when he’s able to blow pitches by people

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      7 years ago

      Michael Kopech actually became more of a pitcher and less a thrower during the course of the past two months. He drastically cut down on his walks in AAA and continued that trend with the White Sox while maintaining his velocity and SO/9. This was due to commanding and trusting his entire repertoire of pitches and was the reason he was promoted to the South Side last month. To quote Rick Hahn, Kopech finally “checked off all the boxes” in AAA and earned his MLB debut in 2018.

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  23. Moonlight Grahamcracker

    7 years ago

    Hopefully he uses the next year rehabbing and learning not to act like an arrogant douchebag!! He’s a young d-bag so maybe there’s hope…

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  24. simschifan

    7 years ago

    Was looking forward to seeing him pitch against the Cubs in that series

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  25. waylonmercy

    7 years ago

    Does anyone know how many pitchers have been diagnosed with UCL tears this season?

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    • Cat Mando

      7 years ago

      if my count is correct….30….the record is 46 in 2012 BTW

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  26. stymeedone

    7 years ago

    That’s the problem when you trade players like Sale, Quintana, and Eaton, who were young and already signed to cheap, long term contracts for possibilities. You’re not guaranteed that any of those prospects are going to develop to the level of those you traded away, and are unlikely to sign them to cheap long term contracts if they do develop. I have maintained from the start that ChiSox should have built around those 3, not traded them.

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      They did that for years, and were mediocre at best with those three.

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      • sf52

        7 years ago

        Because that loathsome ownership couldn’t or wouldn’t spend the money to make it happen

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    • RedRooster

      7 years ago

      Sox absolutely fleeced the Cubs on the Quintana deal. While the Sale deal seems to have worked out pretty well so far for the Red Sox, if the White Sox really want him back nothing says they can’t re-sign him after 2019.

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      • MetsYankeesRedSox

        7 years ago

        Yeah, if I’m Sale, after 2019 I want to go back to a losing team.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          They prob won’t be a losing team at that point. Anyway, if what you are saying is true, that Sale doesn’t want to sign there, it’s probably a good thing they traded him considering the alternative was to lose him for nothing.

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      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        Cubs were not fleeced yet. Minor league stats do not count

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          But Quintana’s 4.00 ERA since the trade does.

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        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          4.00 in the big leagues isn’t horrible, it’s not great but not horrible. I’m not a huge fan of his but let’s see first what Cease and Jimenez do

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Won’t have to do very much to be worth more than a guy with a 4.00 ERA

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        • mike127

          7 years ago

          Sure they will—-they have to lead the White Sox to a World Series win. The Cubs didn’t make the trade to be just competitive and neither did the White Sox. The object in not to “win a trade”, it’s to win a World Series. I’m pretty sure that the Rockies aren’t jumping up and down because they got Tyler Colvin and DJ LeMahieu from the Cubs for Ian Stewart. Certainly not this year, but if the Cubs are able to win a World Series because acquiring Quintana cheaply (financially) for the three years allowed flexibility elsewhere (Darvish, Chatwood—-oops for 18) then it works out for them in a much more indirect way than comparing Eloy’s stats to Qunitana’s. It is important though that Eloy and Cease help soon as there is only one other competitive team in that division. The Sox do not need to get to be a 95 win team to compete for a playoff spot. They just need to get out of the 60s quickly and there is hope that Eloy can help them get there.

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  27. mlb1225

    7 years ago

    I felt he was going to get Tommy John in his career, but not this early. But get well soon, it’s tough to watch a young guy have to undergo a major surgery like this.

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  28. lowtalker1

    7 years ago

    That was fast but I like what he tosses. Speedy recovery and apparently if the numbers work out correctly he will be back on the mound before ontahi

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  29. davidcoonce74

    7 years ago

    Man,, we can’t have nice things apparently.

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  30. waldfee

    7 years ago

    And another one bites the dust.

    In 2014 Kopech committed to the University of Arizona under HOF coach Andy Lopez. Have been checking on his path through the Minors ever since. His PED suspension in 2015 served as a reminder of the pitfalls of pro sports.

    Today’s obsession with pitch velocity over everything else makes a lot pitchers throw way too hard all the time, while also trying to gain an edge via PED abuse, as the current TJ epidemic clearly indicates.

    Players juice. Power and bat speed increase. Pitchers have to throw harder to get the ball past them. Blow out their elbows. It’s a vicious cycle.

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    • sf52

      7 years ago

      The White Sox are in love with these guys with triple digits fastball.

      Jones
      Burdi
      Kopech

      Jones is chronically hurt
      Burdi just had TJS
      Kopech on the way

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      • Aaron Sapoznik

        7 years ago

        Is their an organization in baseball that hates pitchers with triple digit fastballs? Just saying…

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      7 years ago

      Hate to break it to you but most players no longer “juice” due to testing in both MLB and MiLB which puts a damper on your theoretical equation. Kopech’s PED bust occurred in the infancy of his MiLB career with the Red Sox and up until his UCL injury he was still hitting triple digits as a White Sox despite being “clean” since 2015.

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  31. nemoshooter

    7 years ago

    I keep waiting to hear the same thing about Jordan Hicks, and I’m serious.

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    • Jbigz12

      7 years ago

      Hicks throws half the innings kopech does. It’s a lot easier to dial it up for 2 innings bursts.

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  32. JaredKFan

    7 years ago

    There’s two simple reasons why UCLs keep tearing. First, baseball is now a year round sport. You have travel ball teams playing during the off-season for young players, and kids exclusively dedicate their time to one sport now. This leads to overuse of the throwing arm. Secondly, the human arm and elbow are simply not designed to throw a baseball at the velocities pitchers throw with these days. It’s only a matter of when, not if, a pitching arm will break from years of throwing so many innings.

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    • nymetsking

      7 years ago

      It’s already happened.

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      7 years ago

      Nolan Ryan should acquire a patent for his remarkable durability and then market it to all of the hard throwing phenoms, their agents and the teams.

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      • Cat Mando

        7 years ago

        Ryan was a very rare case. He did suffer a torn UCL and Dr. Jobe told him he would need TJS. He decided not to and figured his career was over. Come next spring it was healed (calcification) and he pitched 7 more years before it blew again.

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          What is “calcification”? How is this different from the non-surgery “PRP injection” today?

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        • Cat Mando

          7 years ago

          Calcification isn’t a procedure it’s the natural accumulation of calcium salts in the body and usually on bone. Sometimes….rarely it accumulates elsewhere and in Ryan’s case it accumulated on and around his UCL allowing him to pitch 7 more years. The baseball gods must have smiled on him.

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        • davidcoonce74

          7 years ago

          Nolan Ryan is probably the most singular pitcher in major league history. There has never been any pitcher like him ever. Every once in a century a guy like him comes around. But yeah, he’s not really an example of anything except a very singular and extremely unique baseball pitcher.

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  33. hitless1

    7 years ago

    “Parades are better than prospects,” said Casey Stern

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  34. E munchy

    7 years ago

    Sad situation on many levels. Geez

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  35. MetsYankeesRedSox

    7 years ago

    Bummer.
    This story five years old but still a good read.

    ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/tommy-john-surgery-james-…

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  36. JJB

    7 years ago

    Next up on the bad news list will be that Eloy Jimenez is actually 32 years old.

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      I would kind of laugh at that. But the way baseball is they’ll only have him for a few years anyway

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  37. Priggs89

    7 years ago

    Somebody please go wrap Eloy in bubble wrap NOW.

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      7 years ago

      His agents already believe the White Sox are suffocating his client enough and I tend to agree. According to Rick Hahn the White Sox want to see Jimenez improve defensively before he earns his MLB promotion so they opted to end his season prematurely in hopes that he will study up on how to become a proficient MLB LF before spring training commences. All this after their top prospect had already missed some valuable playing time in 2018 due to a couple of injuries.

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      • sf52

        7 years ago

        So all of the sudden Eloy is a defensive liability? He can’t be any worse than anyone patrolling the outfield now.

        Their best defensive outfielder can’t hit.

        The poor Sox have just been historically plagued by terrible ownerships.

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  38. imindless

    7 years ago

    Looking back white sox got fleeced. So tired of hearing about prospects and that mike trout should be delt, this is a clear case where prospect equate to literally no value. For every juan soto or acuna there are dozens of nobodys.

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    • RedRooster

      7 years ago

      Moncada is 23 and Kopech is even younger. Tommy John surgery is not the career ender it used to be. A little too early to call this a fleecing and the Red Sox have to win a title this year or next year for the trade to be worth it.
      Angels won’t contend in 2019 or 2020 so it would make the most sense to take what they can get for Trout, hope they hit on the prospects then re-sign Trout after 2020. Similar to the White Sox with Chris Sale.

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    • Priggs89

      7 years ago

      I’m going to go ahead and say it’s WAY too early to “look back” at that deal and make judgements. And Moncada still has value at the major league level despite struggling this year.

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    • Jbigz12

      7 years ago

      The White Sox got the #1 prospect in baseball and a another top 20 prospect in all of baseball. They didn’t get fleeced. 99% of the top players in Major League Baseball were top prospects. Some bust, some don’t. What’s your solution? Keep chris sale? Have a garbage team around him but hey we got chris sale, right?

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      • sf52

        7 years ago

        Moncada was East Coast hype to help the Red Sox pump him up. Why was Dombrowski so willing to trade Moncada but not Devers?

        And Kopech with his PED suspension and his other anger management issues was a headache the Red Sox didn’t want to bothered with.

        Reinsdorf refuses to spend on his own top-notch talent evaluators so he thinks he’s slick by letting the other orgs do tbe work.

        That’s how you get played.

        There reasons why they’ve been to the post season 5 times in 37 years and none in the last decade.

        But Reinsdorf has a ton of apologists.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Reinsdorf will look pretty smart in 2020 when the White Sox have Sale, Moncada AND Kopech!

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        • Priggs89

          7 years ago

          You could’ve at least used Benintendi to attempt to prove your useless point… Devers has been every bit as bad as Moncada this year, if not worse.

          Reply
  39. frankf

    7 years ago

    Well that was quick.

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  40. cwsOverhaul

    7 years ago

    It would appear so far, but until Sale is good beyond August, he’s the same Apr-Aug ace who runs out of gas. RSox need him to prove he can be an ace in money time.

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  41. cwsOverhaul

    7 years ago

    Speaking of wearing down, Jordan Stephens may earn Kopech’s vacant spot next year. He was very good during ST and in minors before falling off a month ago. Cross fingers Dunning recovers well from his injury where he and Cease have a shot to join rotation mid-2019.

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  42. IronBallsMcGinty

    7 years ago

    Well this is a craptastic ending to a gloomy day. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery and comes back strong.

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  43. lioneyz

    7 years ago

    With his current mechanics it just was a matter of time. Fortunately he’s young, will get this out of the way early and then return even stronger.

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  44. jints1

    7 years ago

    Should have kept him in minors.

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    • Djones246890

      7 years ago

      It would’ve eventually happened, at some point.

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  45. 22222pete

    7 years ago

    I felt something was wrong in the Red Sox game. Command was off although velocity was decent. Arm slot might have dropped a bit as well. Wheels fell off the nect one.

    So much for teams/players beating TJS with training. Seems it’s spiked since rash of TJS declining articles earlier in the year

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    • Cat Mando

      7 years ago

      It hasn’t really declined for an extended period since first reaching double digits in 96. The first surgery was in 74….here is a count by year starting in 84…….1984 (2)…. 85 (2)…. 86 (5)…. 87 (1)….88 (7)….89 (6)…. 90 (5)…. 91 (9)…. 92 (5)…. 93 (7)…. 94 (9)…. 95 (8)…. 96 (11)…97 (9)…98 (9)….99 (16)…. 2000 (24)….2001 (26)…. 2002 (38)….2003 (29)….2004 (32)…. 2005 (13)…. 2006 (10)…. 2007 (7)….2008 (8)…. 2009 (8)….2010 (11)….2011 (29)….2012 (46)….2013 (25)….2014 (30)…..2015 (30)…..2016 (20)…..2017 (19)….. 2018 so far (30)
      The spike in TJS correlates with the emphasis on speed and kids pitching way too much and year round. By the time they reach pro ball damage has already started.
      In the early 2000’s a study was done examining medical procedures done of 15-19 year old kids. At that time less than 20% of all TJS was done on them. It has risen to the point that now 75% (according to a study announced a few months ago) of all TJS are performed on kids.

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      • sf52

        7 years ago

        Excellent post.

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  46. greatgame 2

    7 years ago

    Hes lucky this didnt happen a month ago while he was making minor league money

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  47. axisofhonor25

    7 years ago

    Eerily similar to Strasburgs season ending TJ during his first year. Guy came out the gate with a blazing fastball and called strikes throwing high velocity curveballs and a change up at about 90. I think I recall he reigned it back a bit on his return. Hope Kopech returns alright.

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  48. gomerhodge71

    7 years ago

    Ouch! Not unexpected, considering the way the kid throws, but this and the news of Ohtani in the same week is just awful.

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  49. SupremeZeus

    7 years ago

    The White Sox rebuild has suffered some injury and lack of development setbacks. No great, Bob!

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      Rebuilds don’t happen overnight. Relax. Two of their best prospects aren’t even up yet. Not to mention they will have payroll space and probably a decent rotation to build on. That Division will be up for grabs after this year. Cleveland will be losing a few players to free agency.

      Reply
  50. KF

    7 years ago

    “obviously, potentially”

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