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Managerial Notes: Showalter, Riggleman, Mattingly

By Steve Adams | September 20, 2018 at 4:56pm CDT

Earlier this afternoon it was reported that the Rangers are considering moving on from skipper Jeff Banister following the season. In the wake of that report, here’s some more chatter regarding managers whose futures have had some uncertainty surrounding them…

  • Fancred’s Jon Heyman reports in this week’s notes column that Orioles manager Buck Showalter is “very likely” to be replaced following this season, though the venerable veteran has yet to be definitively informed one way or another by team decision-makers. The decision on general manager Dan Duquette is more up in the air, per the report, and could yet go either way. Showalter has been managing the O’s since 2010 and guided the team to a 666-677 record that is largely skewed by the unmitigated disaster that has been the 2018 season. He’s among the game’s most respected managers, though there have been reports questioning his job security throughout the season.
  • In light of recent reports that interim Reds manager Jim Riggleman is a favorite of owner Bob Castellini, Heyman adds that Riggleman additionally has numerous fans in the Cincinnati front office. The 65-year-old Riggleman has a decent chance at being tabbed the team’s long-term skipper, though former Red Sox manager John Farrell will be among those considered to step into that role as well. The Reds hired Farrell to work for them in a scouting capacity last offseason.
  • Asked by Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald whether manager Don Mattingly will return for the 2019 season (Twitter link), Marlins CEO Derek Jeter suggested that to be the case, rhetorically replying, “He’s under contract, right?” Mattingly is indeed under contract, but only through the 2019 campaign. Beyond that, it’s not clear whether new Miami ownership has plans to bring in a manager of their own preference — Mattingly was inherited from the previous regime — or whether there’s interest in extending him beyond the ’19 season. Mattingly’s Marlins clubs haven’t had much success, and that’s truer than ever in 2018, though he wasn’t given much to work with heading into the current campaign following last offseason’s organizational tear-down.
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  1. Falsehope

    7 years ago

    Showalter’s 666 wins. He’s cursed.

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    • greatdaysport

      7 years ago

      Cursed with “Dopey” Duquette.

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      • Daver520

        7 years ago

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      • dimitrios in la

        7 years ago

        Sure this year (plus a lot of last) has been brutal, but I’m hoping both guys stay. They’ve both done some good work and should get another shot at a rebuild.

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        • Opposing Views

          7 years ago

          I agree. Both could be great if left to do things the way they want. If they have a chance to run the team how they see fit, I think we would see a big improvement.

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        • bradthebluefish

          7 years ago

          Ditto.

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        • bravesfan88

          7 years ago

          Definitely need to tear down aND revamp their whole pitching coaches..From atleast AA all the way up to the big leagues and their pitching instructors and organization pitching coaches need to go..

          I’d say just do away with every single pitching coach they have, but I’m not informed enough of any hires they may have made in the past season or two of talented pitching coaches at the lower levels…

          McDowell has to be the first to go, ASAP!! He doesn’t relate well to younger pitchers, and since his second to last season in Atlanta he hasn’t done anything positive with any pitcher he’s coached…

          The Orioles cannot keep having their pitchers struggle, then leave and immediately start doing better in other places…Especially, when those coaches are able to easily make some adjustments that help them succeed..Adjustments that McDowell and his staff should have made, but for whatever reason they couldn’t identify or simply refused to make..

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      • stillerfan

        7 years ago

        After 20 years in league he is 38 wins above .500 for a .505 career record. He has been mediocre all along

        Reply
  2. wadewar

    7 years ago

    Showalter better be resigned by the Orioles there no one better out there

    Reply
    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      wade, ya got that right!!

      Reply
    • Dkaner

      7 years ago

      Why make him suffer another season. He deserves better.

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      • dimitrios in la

        7 years ago

        He loves Baltimore and wants very badly to stay.

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          Plus—everyone’s cynicism aside—what he’s done for Baltimore baseball cannot be overstated.

          Reply
    • Cardinals17

      7 years ago

      If Dan Duquette is released, I would hope that the Cardinal Ownership would look into hiring him. No one can be as bad as the Cardinals John Mozeliak!!

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      • fannclub6

        7 years ago

        What a dumb comment… the fact Mo has had a winning record for the past 11 years and two pennants despite an unbelievable amount of personnel changes should be enough. But look what he did this year? Plus they will continue to be competitive without rebuilding. Sometimes people need to simply appreciate what we have.

        Reply
  3. ksoze

    7 years ago

    I’d be happy with Riggleman, or Farrell. I just don’t want to get an inexperienced manager with this young team. The most important piece to the 2019 Reds is clearly adding 1 or 2 Quality Starters to the Rotation. Open up that wallet Castellini.

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    • redsfan54

      7 years ago

      Was a fan of riggleman at first, but he’s started to make decisions that seem very questionable. Would definitely like to see a thorough search for a experienced manager

      Reply
    • MetsYankeesRedSox

      7 years ago

      Farrell? Seriously?

      Reply
    • Perksy

      7 years ago

      The Reds are middle America and middle of the road. So they get mediocre players and managers.

      Reply
    • Daver520

      7 years ago

      he will open the wallet but just enough for a couple moths to fly out

      Reply
      • ksoze

        7 years ago

        That’s what I am afraid of. If he doesn’t it will be a mediocre season at best. The offense is strong, and the back of the bullpen is great, but they need to add a #2 quality starter to this team. If he doesn’t then we’ll be talking about the same things at the end of 2019.

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        • ken48tribe

          7 years ago

          The Reds need far more starting pitching than a #2 starter. Their entire rotation has been ineffective. Some of that may be due to inexperience but quality veteran starters will not be cheap in the offseason either through FA (limited quality) or by trade. Better to acquire some innings eaters that can help stabilize the rotation while their younger starters gain experience.

          Reply
  4. bobtillman

    7 years ago

    O’s fans should wrap their heads around the reality that WITHOUT Buck, they probably would have lost 10 more games than they have……

    That said, sometimes you need a complete change, and, despite the fact that they’re both capable (Buck more so), both DD and Buck should move (or be moved) on……

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    • dimitrios in la

      7 years ago

      I disagree (ie I think both deserve to be back actually) but your sane view has some merit…. the team may well need a “complete change.”

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      • dimitrios in la

        7 years ago

        The question is who is a legit replacement. (Loved Joe with the Yankees—underrated—but neither he nor the O’s want the other badly enough. Buck has entirely embraced Baltimore—what it represents, who the people are, what they care about; I don’t think Joe is ready to do that.

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  5. MetsYankeesRedSox

    7 years ago

    PLEASE!!!….Keep Dusty Baker unemployed

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  6. norcalblue

    7 years ago

    If history repeats itself, Mattingly will start to whine if he is not offered an extension before WS ends.

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  7. simschifan

    7 years ago

    Was Jeter always such an a hole or is he just using his power to become one?

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      He thinks who the heck he is, now more than ever!

      Reply
      • thegreatcerealfamine

        7 years ago

        WTF. Explain this post…

        Reply
    • Rocket32

      7 years ago

      Maybe he just kept that side of him hidden all those years as a player.

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    • rocky7

      7 years ago

      Are you using yourself as the ruler for being an “A Hole” in your question?

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  8. MetsYankeesRedSox

    7 years ago

    You may hate Jeter but the Marlins ownership WAY better than the Flushing circus.

    Reply
    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      lol

      Reply
    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      They don’t exactly set the bar too high

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      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        haa

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    • skip 2

      7 years ago

      Haha I don’t know if I’d say WAY better that’s for sure!

      Reply
  9. eileenyankees9

    7 years ago

    Maybe Jeter wants Girardi? Do you guys think Giradi should be in the Am. League
    East, lol, to play against the Yankees??

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    • MetsYankeesRedSox

      7 years ago

      I always liked Girardi.

      Reply
      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        Me too MYR..
        He got a dirty deal and I hope he gets a good team to manage

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    • Perksy

      7 years ago

      Nope. Jeter hated Girardi. They did not get along.

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      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        wow, I didn’t even know that, duh!!

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      • MetsYankeesRedSox

        7 years ago

        Don’t know about that but imagine if Jeter replaced Mattingly with Girardi…… Girardi was picked over Mattingly to manage the Yankees so prob Jeter was pissed an outsider got the job.
        But Jeters in management now and knows Girardi is better than Mattingly. Nothing against Don but he should be batting coach for Yankees.

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        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          Donny Baseball cannot manage, he should be a batting coach

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          Because the Marlins have what it takes to attract a better manager than Mattingly? Well I suppose one feature is knowing you can always plan your family vacations for October.

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        • MetsYankeesRedSox

          7 years ago

          Agreed. A true Yankee and a fine hitter in his day. Clean ball player. Just like Farrell should stick to pitching coach, Donnie should be batting coach. Whatever the problem they should all bury the hatchet. All three of them play the Yankee way and have the winning attitude also. Marlins organization on the rise. Florida MLB baseball is on the rise.

          Reply
        • MetsYankeesRedSox

          7 years ago

          We’re you alive in 97 and 03 Bluesky?

          Reply
        • rocky7

          7 years ago

          Eileenyankees9 Can’t even offer a reply to your ridiculous comment!

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          Both are Trolls rock!

          Reply
      • rocky7

        7 years ago

        Eileenyankees9 You’re very gullible for a Yankees fan.
        What evidence does this dote Perksy have or has offered to us that Jeter ever hated Girardi?

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      • rocky7

        7 years ago

        And you have this on what evidence….were you on the team, did you write the payroll checks, did you own the team or are you just being the Dote that you are when you make this type of statement.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          Rock don’t feed those trolls…

          Reply
  10. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    7 years ago

    Showalter is wretched!! Enough is enough!!!
    Bring in Girardi or heck I would even consider Willie Randolph who Showalter kicked in the can and relieved him of his duty.. It would be poetic justice

    One must remember Showalter personally handpicked his coaching staff!
    Just something to think about.

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      Lefty, that would be good for the O’s and Joe!

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      • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

        7 years ago

        It would be nothing short of epic if the O’s got Joe Girardi!

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        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          Yup, same thoughts here!

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        • MetsYankeesRedSox

          7 years ago

          Whoever gets Girardi will be a very fortunate team! He’s been burnt a few times, esp by the Jeffrey Loria clown show.

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        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          I don’t think Joe would go to a iffy team after he was with the Yanks.
          I know he wants to manage so bad, I heard him say so
          on the air, he will get thete!!

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        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          oops, typo

          Reply
    • 2012orioles

      7 years ago

      I’d love girardi

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      • sportsjunkie24

        7 years ago

        Maybe dusty would be interested in the os job if it available otherwise giradi would be a nice get

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  11. Perksy

    7 years ago

    I could see Buck to the Nats.

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      That sounds good too!

      Reply
  12. jmi1950

    7 years ago

    Mattingly will be there for all of 2019 and that’s it. The reason $$$$. The Marlins are too cheap to pay for him to not manage; and too cheap to extend him.

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    • MetsYankeesRedSox

      7 years ago

      The time to cut Mattingly is now. After this season ends. I see the Marlins rising from the ashes a third time. The young squad Jeter & company are developing will need a manager like Girardi.

      Reply
  13. racosun

    7 years ago

    Is Ausmus too good for all these gigs?

    Reply
  14. RedRooster

    7 years ago

    If I’m Showalter I don’t want to come back to the Orioles. If he’s really such a respected manager there should be other teams who are interested.

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    • dimitrios in la

      7 years ago

      Well Buck is Buck—and he very much wants to come back.

      Reply
  15. jints1

    7 years ago

    I have mixed feelings about Showalter. He’s a good guy and has done a lot for both the Orioles and the city. However, his complacency about this year’s team can’t be ignored. He didn’t seem to care or be bothered by all the losses. Caleb Joseph’s comment these past weeks indicate change is necessary.

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    • MetsYankeesRedSox

      7 years ago

      The guy is sick of dealing with Angelos. He’s a bad owner which is bad for MLB and bad for the whole Oriole organization. For proof look at the standings.

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        7 years ago

        Did Buck tell this over a beer?

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          *tell you this

          Reply
        • MetsYankeesRedSox

          7 years ago

          Hey cereal…I notice you doing plenty of trolling yourself.grow up kid

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          Then stop making ridiculous unsubstantiated claims, and for the love of God choose a side!

          Reply
    • dimitrios in la

      7 years ago

      Not sure what Joseph comments you’re referring to. Buck cares profoundly—about the O’s, about his players. It’s one of he many things that makes him special. What you’re seeing as his not caring is his not losing his cool and keeping the ship steady amidst a massive amount of team suffering. The fact that this team has not fallen apart emotionally and interpersonally is a terrific accomplishment—not akin to a trophy—but remarkable (ask the Mariners) and reflective of Buck’s leadership.

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      • MetsYankeesRedSox

        7 years ago

        100% agree. Bucks been a damn good manager for Yanks, D’Backs and O’s.
        Owners like the Wilpons and Angelos are bad for baseball and need to be encouraged to sell out. If the new commissioner is hell bent on changing baseball, he should start there.

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      • 2012orioles

        7 years ago

        Joseph basically said that no one seems upset about this historically bad season, they should be worried about their jobs, and “we suck”

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          jints, Ok well I read those quotes last night—and interpret them much differently.

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        • ln13

          7 years ago

          Of course you do.

          Reply
    • 2012orioles

      7 years ago

      I’m the same way. I’m not sure how much blame he should get since there aren’t the best players on the team now, but at the same time, do we want to win? Buck has made some questionable decisions.

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      • dimitrios in la

        7 years ago

        2012, every manager has.

        Reply
  16. Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo

    7 years ago

    “The unmitigated disaster” that is the O’s 2018 season. Lmao.

    Reply
    • dimitrios in la

      7 years ago

      Sorry I’m not seeing the humor—you?

      Reply
  17. daboyz1965

    7 years ago

    Farrell would be good for 3 years or so.

    Reply
  18. jjghost

    7 years ago

    Mike Matheny is the answer, now we just have to determine the question.

    Reply
  19. Charlie Waffles

    7 years ago

    Oh my gosh!!! Riggleman as permanent manager of the Cincinnati Reds? Holy smokes. The Reds can hardly draw 10,000 fans a game. If Reds owner Bob Castellini wants to run off more long time Reds fans, then he’ll name Riggleman as the manager. Riggleman does nothing, absolutely nothing, to move the needle on re-energizing the Reds morbid fan base. A Riggleman hire will be DOA with the fans. If the Reds want to break the cycle of 4 straight 90+ loss seasons and 4 straight NLC last place finishes, then they have to get bold. No on Riggleman. No on John Farrell. No on Barry Larkin. Now Larkin as a bench coach maybe, but not manager.
    Just NO on these old school fossils like, Riggleman, Farrell, Showalter, Gibbons (Jays), etc.
    The Reds need a big splash with their managerial hire and then another for one free agent starting pitcher not named Harvey.
    Jeez, the Reds are stuck in deep, deep mediocrity with their friends and family front office that is void of actual baseball people. And those named above would just continue the trend down Mediocrity Blvd. .

    Reply
  20. lesterdnightfly

    7 years ago

    “He’s under contract, right?”
    That Jeter fellow sure has a winning way with the press, and with PR in general. Must have fired his NY handlers in a cost-cutting move.

    Reply
  21. driftcat28 2

    7 years ago

    Maybe Cashman can trade Boone for Mattingly

    Reply
    • bababooeytoyall

      7 years ago

      That’s kind of a pick your poison type of move. Both of them are lousy.

      Reply

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