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Joe Girardi Withdraws From Reds’ Managerial Search

By Jeff Todd | October 19, 2018 at 4:37pm CDT

Joe Girardi has withdrawn from the Reds’ managerial search, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). He had the inside track on the job, per the report, but will instead continue working as a television analyst for the time being.

It is not clear at this point how the Reds will adjust to the news. The organization was said to have narrowed down its search to three candidates, with David Bell and Brad Ausmus also reported as finalists.

In the past, Bell has been seen as the favorite to take the reins in Cincinnati. But he’s also interviewing with multiple other clubs. Plus, Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle tweets that Bell is even being whispered about as a possible candidate to advance in the Giants’ baseball operations department after just one season working in the club’s player development system.

Girardi, who previously managed the Yankees and Marlins, is still interested in returning to the dugout in the future, per Rosenthal. In fact, he’s said to be under consideration by the Rangers, if not other organizations seeking new skippers.

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  1. TJECK109

    7 years ago

    Angels?

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    • bobtillman

      7 years ago

      …said it a month ago….a perfect fit with LAA…..

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      • angels fan 3

        7 years ago

        How is that a perfect fit ?

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        • bobtillman

          7 years ago

          1. If Arte was paying Soscia 5M/ year, he can afford Joe G.

          2. Veteran team, possibly not that far away, decent farm system

          3. Used to Joe G.’s “style”

          4. Big Market exposure; Joe likes when people know his name. People would forget who he was in Minny or Cincinnati.

          There are others…

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        • Padres458

          7 years ago

          One player doesnt mean the Angel’s farm isnt among the worst in baseball

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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          “Joe likes when people know his name” Now how in the world would you come to this assumption? Their farm system is suspect at best.

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        • petrie000

          7 years ago

          Especially when just about every pitcher they have seems one awkward toss away from an extended do trip.

          Plus having money doesn’t mean the team knows how to use it well. Arte Moreno’s not exactly known for his shrewd spending habits…

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          1. The Angels can afford Girardi. So what? They can afford any manager so why is Girardi a perfect fit for that reason? They can afford cheaper guys as well.

          2. Angels farm system stinks. Even if it was decent why does that make Girardi or anyone else a perfect fit?

          3. Most teams when changing manager choose someone with a different style. Being used to Girardi’s style would make him not a perfect fit.

          4. Anaheim is not a big market. Sorry. You can put L A. on the jersey but Aneheim is not L. A. Its also West Coat team where most of the country is not awake when those game are played.

          So how is he a perfect fit again?

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        • bobtillman

          7 years ago

          1. Inconsistent reasoning
          2. It’s better than it was
          3. You have data on this?
          4. Simply false.

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        • angels fan 3

          7 years ago

          That’s why they have a top 10 system

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        • angels fan 3

          7 years ago

          Still doesn’t mean he should be the manager and is why he isn’t being interviewed

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        • bkbkbk

          7 years ago

          No, but therankings do.

          Theyre gonna be between 10 and 15 on all the rankings next year. Get familiar with Adell, Marsh, Canning, Jam Jones, Pat Sandoval and Luis Refigino.

          Reply
        • Harry pness

          7 years ago

          @bobtillman dumb comment

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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          “They’re gonna be” The last grasp when someone is wrong.

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        • dugdog83

          7 years ago

          1) I agree with you.
          2) Better yes but still bad.
          3) yes. almost every quality coaching change ever.
          4) it’s true dude you ain’t LA.

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        • bradthebluefish

          7 years ago

          The connection between Joe Girardi and Billy Eppler is strong.

          Reply
    • SilvioDante

      7 years ago

      Pretty sure he’s waiting to see what happens between the Cubs and Joe Maddon. He can afford to sit out another season if need be. He can continue working for the MLB Network and jump back in the managerial pool after next season when the Cubs situation would have been cleared up, and also see what happens w Bochy and the Giants.

      Reply
      • Slevin

        7 years ago

        Totally agree on the whole Cubs thing. Just think some people were hollering about the Cards, as if.

        Reply
        • cards81

          7 years ago

          As if what?

          Reply
      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        He will have a job before then

        Reply
  2. earmbrister

    7 years ago

    Sounds like he knew he was not the favorite of the three finalists. If he was not interested in the job, and wanted to stay in broadcasting, why did he interview in the first place?

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    • acarneglia

      7 years ago

      Is Joe not allowed to change his mind?

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    • Jbigz12

      7 years ago

      He probably took a second look at their rotation and said o himself, “ I’m going to get canned in 3 years” and decided maybe he’d try his luck elsewhere.

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      • User 4245925809

        7 years ago

        Don’t think that’s it either, along with other reasons above. believe what Girardi is looking for is commitment from ownership to spend and Moreno will do that in an attempt to win, he always has before. i believe he would look to Baltimore also if he could get Angelos to commit to spending for people he wants.

        Cincinati will not be spending much, they have not previously, other than the massive Votto deal and ill fated bailey contract and don’t see them spending now once their kids develop. girardi just got finished with a situation like that and doubt he wants to go thru it again.

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    • JKB 2

      7 years ago

      Did it occur to you he interviewed for the job to see what the opportunity looked like and perhaps after did not think it was a good fit. Does interviewing mean he has to take the job if offered? Heck no it does not. He even spared them the embarrament of offering him the job and him turning them down? It has zero to do with him thinking he was “behind” the other two. Give me a break

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      • DMC511

        7 years ago

        Bingo

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    • reflect

      7 years ago

      Do you not understand what an interview is? That’s like asking why an company would interview people they end up not hiring.

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    • Djones246890

      7 years ago

      Just to see what they have to say. He has nothing to lose by interviewing and hearing them out. I can’t say I blame him for declining the potential job.

      Cincinnati isn’t even a 3rd or 4th rate US city (it’s nowhere near a major market), and there isn’t much to work with on that ballclub.

      I’d hold out for a major city/big market with more talent, which is probably what he’s doing.

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      • joeshmoe11

        7 years ago

        Yo there are only 30 jobs like this in the world. Market size is irrelevant. Comes down to fit and talent level

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    • bbatardo

      7 years ago

      Have you ever interviewed for a job before? Besides them interviewing you, you interview them to see if it’s a fit.

      Reply
      • cecildawg

        7 years ago

        To interview is a unique experience. With anyone the experience is of benifit. I, whom ever i is, recommend interviewing for jobs for the experience. An enriching human experience. The inner view is different often times than what is precieved. Go for it! Learn about You. Smart of Mr. Joe.

        Reply
  3. astick

    7 years ago

    Did you read past the first sentence?

    Reply
  4. xabial

    7 years ago

    Called Girardi to LAA in Cards’ extended /removed interim title of manager thread. And Scioscia departure thread.

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    • JKB 2

      7 years ago

      Yea you and many others “called” it

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    • Harry pness

      7 years ago

      Great prediction!

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    • Ry.the.Stunner

      7 years ago

      And the article says nothing about the Angels. In fact, it says he probably won’t be signing on with any team.

      So I don’t know exactly why you’re bragging as if you predicted something that happened?

      Reply
      • xabial

        7 years ago

        First 2 posts in article comments speculate Girardi going to the Angels. Just reaffirming believe in that since the beginning.

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  5. Blah blah blah

    7 years ago

    Its criminal that Jim RIggleman is not being considered.

    Reply
    • natsfan11

      7 years ago

      I know. I liked him when he was the Nats manager.

      Reply
    • burtgummer

      7 years ago

      The Reds finished 16 games under .500 with Riggleman as manager
      He shouldn’t be under consideration

      Reply
      • simschifan

        7 years ago

        Not his fault

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          Is his career 729-904 career record his fault? He wasn’t thrown into the best situation in Cincinnati but he certainly didn’t do anything to keep that job. They cratered at the end.

          Reply
        • simschifan

          7 years ago

          They are not gonna contend this year, let the guy have another year or two and go from there. What is the rush?

          Reply
      • Ry.the.Stunner

        7 years ago

        They were 3-15 when he took over. Even though his overall record was still under .500 by a tad, he still improved the trajectory the team was on.

        Reply
        • burtgummer

          7 years ago

          By a tad??
          Understatement of the year
          During post game interviews they’d ask him questions and he said I don’t know
          What happened to the offense tonight ?
          I don’t know
          He clueless good riddance

          Reply
    • JKB 2

      7 years ago

      First Riggleman was considered and did interview for the job. It is anything but criminal that he is no longer in the running

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    • possible donkey

      7 years ago

      New style. Player coach. Trout. Make it happen. Sarcasm. No one cares.

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      • Blah blah blah

        7 years ago

        unintelligent reply

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  6. TonyE

    7 years ago

    Angels would be a good spot. Who wouldn’t want to manage Mile Trout?

    Reply
  7. earmbrister

    7 years ago

    Did he interview for another job, or did he realize he wasn’t the favorite of the three finalists with the Reds?

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    • JKB 2

      7 years ago

      He was the favorite and did not want the job so he withdrew so the Reds would not be in a position to offer him a job he would turn down. Its not shocking that he determined the Reds job was not a good situation. Girardi will always have suitors. He can wait

      Reply
  8. jonnyj

    7 years ago

    Not enough money

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      This seems to be the popular consensus. Personally, think a better opportunity may have presented itself.

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      Yeah why would they pay him that money. He would probably be in line to be the highest paid manager in baseball.

      Reply
  9. imindless

    7 years ago

    Cincinati sucks and has nothing to look forward too in that division. There are better jobs elsewhere, with more talent coming up and on rosters.

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      Totally not true

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        The reds have some exciting young players but they don’t have any pitching. You have to put that team together and it’s no easy fix. Joey votto is 35. He’s arguably the best pure hitter of his time but how long can you expect him to perform at an elite level? His power went away this year. That might just be an aberration but they still owe him a lot of cash until 2023(his age 40 season) You have one guy who may be a TOR arm in your rotation but he was up and down last year. They’ve had more top pitching prospects bust in the rotation than anyone else. They have prospects in the system but they don’t pitch aside from hunter greene and he’s a ways off. They’re certainly closer than a team like KC,Baltimore, Texas or Miami but they need to make a lot of the right decisions to get there in that division.

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    • joeshmoe11

      7 years ago

      Know what really sucks? Your ability to spell. Cincinnati has two ‘n’s

      Reply
      • nathanalext

        7 years ago

        Hmm. I thought for sure it has three.

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        • joeshmoe11

          7 years ago

          Mere trivialities. I spelled it correctly at least

          Reply
    • astick

      7 years ago

      So does your spelling.

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    • captainchaos55

      7 years ago

      The Reds have the #6 ranked farm system and a top 10 offensive team. They need pitching, that’s it. It’s not as bad of a situation as people are making it out to be. Yes it’s small market but that’s not a bad thing. The division
      Is overrated. The Brewers and Pirates are constantly up and down. The Cubs have been good recently but with some pitching the Reds can compete.

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      • iceman35pilot

        7 years ago

        #1. Who, besides Joey Votto, from their farm system have they developed into a above average Big leaguer?

        #2. They have neither the money to acquire, nor the coaching skill set to develop Major league pitching.

        #3 while Votto it fun to watch, and sells
        some tickets and jerseys, his contract will hold Reds back until it’s over.

        Reply
  10. mmarinersfan

    7 years ago

    David Bell it is.

    Reply
    • jekporkins

      7 years ago

      I got a feeling the Giants don’t want Bell to leave. The article actually implies this. They are probably dangling the dugout after Bochy’s deal ends in 2019.

      Reply
  11. Yanks2

    7 years ago

    Aaron Boone

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  12. petrie000

    7 years ago

    This is quite disappointing to me… But then I am a Cubs fan.

    Girardi increasingly seems like one of those famous names from the era before sabermetrics really became a thing in the dugouts.

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      Personally,think Girardi “not being all-in sabermetrics” is a load of ***. Yankee fans always complained he OVER managed, looked too far into stats, with his bullpen match ups. In many ways, he the exact opposite of Boone (not just limited to being best at RP usage)
      Any team would be lucky to have him.

      Girardi played bullpen matchups better than any manager in MLB. He was a winner, plain and simple, one u could argue,accomplished more than Boone with (less) talented roster in 2017. Even got more out of Gary

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      • its_happening

        7 years ago

        He had many seasons where his teams exceeded expectations. Reds need Girardi more than Girardi need the Reds.

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          TrimReaper

          My favorite was 2013. they went 85-77. Said it before; say it again; to this day, how Girardi squeezed 85 wins, still dont know how. (Click Twitter link to see lineup)

          twitter.com/Christian_NYYST/status/101614263851119…

          Think it oversold it. Where’s Lyle Overbay batting cleanup-5th? C. Stewart doubled Romine’s PT. Bonus: Year of the Youkilis.

          Don’t have much space for Pitching so….CC: 4.78 ERA (still finding his way) Hughes 5.10 ERA, Joba 4.93 ERA (their last season here) Kuroda was their ace, Mariano retired after. Jeter, Teixeira, ARod injured most of the yr.

          Proud watched almost evry game of 2013. Despite 2013 Yankees having worst record since 1992, think few, if any, woulda gotten the results Girardi got, winning record with roster overpaid veterans, near end career, and pitching staff led by Kuroda and Ivan Nova.

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          With all due respect to kind Orioles’ fans here, if Boone managed 2013 team (5 years ago or today) predict they’d finish closer to 2018 O’s and/or 100 losses, than above .500.

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        • its_happening

          7 years ago

          X – I remember 2013 well; Blue Jays destined for a World Series after a busy offseason, Yankees using ex-Blue Jays to fill positions, and they outclassed and outperformed the Jays all season long. Girardi managed his tail off.

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      I still wonder what’s inside that damn binder, always carried around 24/7, was more ubiquitous w/ Girardi than the toothpick was to Dusty Baker.

      Also used as an excuse by Yankee fans to take shots after hindsight loss: “he’s too data driven!” lol. Then narrative changes to “not data driven enuf!” I believe “tense” crap more than not “into data.” Any franchise lucky have Joe!

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      • bobtillman

        7 years ago

        There’s a difference between when the FO gives you data and tells you to use it, and the FO telling you HOW to use it. Joe’s a smart guy; I think he knows the value of metrics. He just doesn’t think they’re the end- all of everything.

        Bottom line, he’s pretty good at what he does. No team is going to miss the playoffs because Joe Giradi is the manager. And he’s one of the few who can probably squeeze a few extra wins out of any roster.

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          Sorry, let’s see if it’s made up. If this follows Joe to where he goes, we’ll have an answer lol (mobile.twitter.com/girardisbinder?lang=en) Love that binder.

          The stupid “not all in Data” crap against Joe was a hit-job — pure and simple. My opinion. How did Boone do, he was all in analytics? Putting in “Puppet”, so to speak.

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          Good conversation. I think of Joe as the most underrated manager of the last several years. Got a lot out of rosters that didn’t seem like they should’ve been that competitive. I also think the Orioles job (with a good leader in the FO, who will pick the manager) would appeal to Joe.

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      • petrie000

        7 years ago

        His teams are vulnerable to the shift, and instead of adapting, he calls for it to be banned… I’m not sure his data is the right data for today’s baseball

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        • pjc1966

          7 years ago

          Yep. People should just stop hitting left handed, since the shift disproportionately hurts lefties more,

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        • petrie000

          7 years ago

          Or left handers should adjust too… And a manager should help them do so…

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        • xabial

          7 years ago

          Your beef with Girardi sounds personal cuz his take on shifts has nothing to do with pitching bullpen managemnt (Girardi greatest strength Boone’s biggest liablity)

          Plus doesn’t shift hurt LH hitters most?

          How’d Didi break NYY SS HR record in 2017? Wouldn’t shifts have neutralized Didi?

          Bird mostly been non-existant this year?
          LH hitters in Yank lineup.. nearly extinct. gardner.. future? didi’s injury? Bird…. sucks? Believe Only Hicks’ left

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  13. to4

    7 years ago

    Jays

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    • bobtillman

      7 years ago

      That would be my second choice for Joe, maybe even first (tho I really think Stubby Clap is headed there; don’t think Jays want to spend the money). Jays have moveable pieces, talent coming, and the Rogers don’t have any holes in their shoes.

      Reply
  14. CowboysoldierFTW

    7 years ago

    Prob not going to the Rangers.

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    • JKB 2

      7 years ago

      I do not see him going to the Rangers either

      Reply
  15. astrosfan

    7 years ago

    Welcome to Arlington Joe. The Rangers welcome you with open arms and a team ready to win. Joe to the Rangers is win-win for both Joe and the Rangers

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  16. joefriday1948

    7 years ago

    Although the Rockies have a good manager. Joe would be super to take over and bring up Colton Welker

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  17. zachary08

    7 years ago

    I knew some way, the Reds’ FO would screw this up

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  18. Joe Kerr

    7 years ago

    Waiting for the Cubs job to open up.

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      7 years ago

      Yes. Hopefully that will be sooner rather than later although that would likely mean a poor start for the Cubs in 2019 which no North Side fan wants to see. The only other scenario for “Genius” Joe to possibly leave early might be the Cubs not willing to offer him an extension this offseason ahead of his otherwise lame duck 2019 campaign.

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      • Ry.the.Stunner

        7 years ago

        Joe’s contract ends at the end of 2019, so they don’t need to have a poor start to get rid of him.

        And managers who are fired in the middle of the season are rarely, if ever, replaced in the interim by former managers looking to get picked up with a team.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          7 years ago

          Theo won’t hesitate to fire a lame duck manager mid-season if the Cubs get to a disappointing start like they did in 2017. If the Brewers and Cardinals are ahead of them in the standings and Joe Girardi is available from the broadcast booth why would that be a problem?

          Another good option for the Cubs might be if David Ross happened to be their new bench coach which is a possibility with current one Brandon Hyde being interviewed for managerial positions as we post.

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  19. Bubba 5

    7 years ago

    Girardi won once in NY with a BOATLOAD OF TALENT. Don’t understand the buzz? Oh I forgot it was NY so he must be Hall of Fame already

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  20. 619bird

    7 years ago

    Pretty sure he doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild. Reds are 2-3 years away unless they grab up some pitching.

    With LA I guess you can say they’re not rebuilding. You’ve got Trout, Upton, Simmons, Ohtani. However you’ve got Houston, Oakland and Seattle in your division. So you’ve got to figure a way to get ahead of a couple of those teams but teams like the Yankees and Rays just to get back to the WC. Either way tough sledding. Just appears one might be a little easier to luck into a WC than the other.

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  21. Gordon Lightfoot

    7 years ago

    Girardi has leverage in a field of relative unknowns. Wise choice by JG.

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  22. Djones246890

    7 years ago

    Can’t say I blame him. It’s kind of hard to manage in (arguably) the Mecca of baseball, NYC, and then go to Cincinnati. No thanks. Lol.

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  23. daboyz1965

    7 years ago

    Girardi to Angels seems to be best fit.

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  24. Bdonnell

    7 years ago

    Please go back and talk to Farrell again. Every team David Bell has coached has gotten worse during his tenure, same with Ausmus. Next manager has to be able to judge talent and develop pitching…that’s how Farrell has proven himself. If not Farrell, the other candidates they’ve interviewed don’t move the needle. The FO is determined to go with analytics, but they need someone to bring some fun back to Cincinnati baseball.

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    • joeshmoe11

      7 years ago

      That’s the organization’s job, to judge talent and develop pitching. Manager needs to write 9 names on a lineup card and make primarily common sense pitching changes, then get out of the way and make sure the team gets along. Girardi was let go because he couldn’t relate to young players. Same basic reason Farrell was jettisoned by Boston

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  25. RobM

    7 years ago

    Smart move on Girardi’s part.

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  26. titanic struggle

    7 years ago

    I called Bell a week ago, but apparently Girardi was their top choice. If they lose Bell now that’s really gonna PMO. Would they “settle” for Asmus? I don’t think he’s the right guy. Would rather they gave Hatcher a shot at it.

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  27. its_happening

    7 years ago

    Maybe I’m naive here…why are the Angels the best fit for Girardi? From an outside perspective the Angels are in trouble and probably should consider a teardown middle of the season, if not sooner. I don’t see them having the ability to contend.

    Reply
  28. Indianfan

    7 years ago

    They must have started talking money. Joe ain’t gonna work for no $800,000 a year. That’s about the going rate in Cincy. lol

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