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Reds Hire Pitching Coach Derek Johnson Away From Brewers

By Steve Adams | October 31, 2018 at 4:57pm CDT

4:57pm: MLB.com’s Adam McCalvy tweets that Milwaukee general manager David Stearns has confirmed that Johnson is leaving the organization. The Brewers had “extensive” negotiations in an effort to retain Johnson, Stearns said, but it seems the two sides ultimately could not reach an agreement.

4:50pm: The Brewers are set for yet another coaching change, as Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets that pitching coach Derek Johnson is leaving the organization to join the Reds in the same capacity. Milwaukee previously saw hitting coach Darnell Coles step down, and he was announced as the new hitting coach for the Diamondbacks earlier today.

To this point, the entirety of Johnson’s coaching career in pro ball has come in the National League Central. He spent the 2013-15 seasons as the Cubs’ minor league pitching coordinator and has served as Milwaukee’s pitching coach from 2016-18 before jumping ship to the division-rival Reds. Prior to that, he spent 11 seasons as the pitching coach at Vanderbilt, working with numerous future big leaguers, including first-rounders David Price, Mike Minor and Sonny Gray.

Johnson will be the first staff hire under newly minted skipper David Bell on a Reds staff that figures to see its own fair share of turnover following the early-season dismissal of Bryan Price and the recent departure of interim manager Jim Riggleman.

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  1. rodge816

    7 years ago

    I’m good with this hire.

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    • slpdajab55

      7 years ago

      Glad it meets your approval

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  2. AZPat

    7 years ago

    Which opens up Milwaukee to get Bryan Price as their pitching coach.

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    • RunDMC

      7 years ago

      ATL also looking

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  3. baseball365

    7 years ago

    It would be helpful for some added context. By all accounts, a solid all around Brewers team and front office, that on paper should be a competitive team going forward, has a hitting coach step down and their pitching coach make a lateral move to a lesser developed team? Did I get that right? Probably nothing, but weird optics if I may say.

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    • wscaddie56

      7 years ago

      I totally agree, this looks very bad. Are the dbacks not expected to pull back their competitive efforts?
      There has to be something going on here, like counsell quitting and getting everybody jobs before he goes.
      I hope I’m just paranoid.

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    • Phanatic 2022

      7 years ago

      More money probably

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  4. Tim Newport

    7 years ago

    This is hard to understand from the Brewers’ point of view. Almost every healthy pitcher performed better than expected under him. Why did they let him get away?

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    • thesheriffisnear

      7 years ago

      He must enjoy impossible tasks…like making the Reds pitching staff good

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      • tsolid 2

        7 years ago

        Or he might like to have more input when it comes to decisions regarding the pitching staff. Stearns is Luhnow 2.0 when it comes to the usage of analytics

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        • jd396

          7 years ago

          And who’d want to mimic what those disheveled Astros do.

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      • astick

        7 years ago

        You’re a jerk.

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      • ray_derek

        7 years ago

        Or he doesn’t like working with a total tool in Counsell

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        • augold5

          7 years ago

          ??? This comment has reached new levels of trolling. Please find a legit source where anyone in the league has implied Counsell is anything but a class act.

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        • kmole

          7 years ago

          He’s a stupid Cubs fan that comes here just to troll. Ignore him and it’s a matter of time before he goes away, just like the cubs NL central lead this season.

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  5. baseball1600

    7 years ago

    I think the reds should get bounce back candidate SPs like Sonny Gray in the offseason.

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    • Dock_Elvis

      7 years ago

      Johnson was Grays pitching coach at Vanderbilt, and his college catcher is also on the roster. This was an excellent move by the Reds who also signed international scouting talent from the Rangers

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  6. twentyforty

    7 years ago

    Uh oh. Major loss for Milwaukee. Going to be much, much harder cobbling together all these failed SPs without Johnson.

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  7. bigcokeslushy

    7 years ago

    He found a way to get Wade Miley throwing strikes so by all means he deserves a raise

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    • Samuel

      7 years ago

      Miley had 4 crummy years till 2018.

      Could be Johnson. Could be free agency approaching…..

      I remember Ubaldo Jiminez sucking with the Rockies and then with the Indians. With 3/4’s of his walk year left, he finally listened to the coaches. The Orioles gave Ubaldo 4 years with big bucks. In turn, he gave them 4 awful years…..ignoring his coaches. No other team would take him, so the Orioles rolled him out to pitch. After his age 33 season in 2017 he left MLB a wealthy man.

      Wiley and Johnson will be interesting to watch in 2019. What if Wiley follows to Cincy? I’m telling you, The NL is far behind the AL, and the NL Central is the most overrated division in MLB.

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      • redsfan54

        7 years ago

        What an ignorant comment

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        • Samuel

          7 years ago

          Explain why, Snarky.

          In 2918 the A’s, Mariners, and even Rays could have represented the NL in the WS.

          There is nothing approaching a complete team in the NL. They all have major holes. With half-decent pitching the Reds can win the NL Central in 2019.

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        • ksoze

          7 years ago

          Some people just love to hate. I wouldn’t get upset about a troll. He is right that with a GOOD pitching staff the Reds could win the NL Central. 1 – 6 should be very solid, and the back end of the rotation is strong. They need 2 quality Starters via FA, or trade.

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        • baseball1600

          7 years ago

          Don’t listen to this troll, he thinks the royals will win the AL central next year.

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        • Ry.the.Stunner

          7 years ago

          @Samuel – if the Mariners were in the NL, they would not have made the playoffs, so i don’t know why you think they could’ve been in the WS. Mariners had a lower W% than the lowest seed in the NL (Rockies)

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        • DarthDbacks

          7 years ago

          In 2918 maybe, but in 2018 the Ms went 6-14 in inter league play and the Rays went 7-14.

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        • Samuel

          7 years ago

          “Don’t listen to this troll, he thinks the royals will win the AL central next year.”

          baseball1600;

          Do you work for the mainstream media?

          I said the Indians would cruise to the AL Central in 2019, but that when the 4 other teams rebuilds were finished the Royals would dominate the division.

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  8. EndinStealth

    7 years ago

    Hope he gets paid well.

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    • kgreene3

      7 years ago

      Good chance this is the reason.

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  9. bobtillman

    7 years ago

    Could be any number of reasons, money being a big one. But he might not had liked some intrusion from upstairs (see Hickey, Jim). Of course, the Reds have John Farrell rummaging around in the attic over there, so………

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  10. stubby66

    7 years ago

    I would’ve really like to see him stay, Hopefully he was just wanting to move on and he left only cause of wanting a bigger challenge, safe to say his replacement won’t be Peterson or Bosio. Could handle Maddux back

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    • ray_derek

      7 years ago

      Bosio? You’re kidding right, he lasted 2 months in Detroit, he shouldn’t ever get another MLB job.

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      • kgreene3

        7 years ago

        Because some cup cake got offended? Please.

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      • stubby66

        7 years ago

        That is why I said it’s safe to say it won’t be Peterson or Bosio. Bosio only lasted 2 months and if you remember he also accused Thames for being on PEDs last April. Not upset just guessing you misread my comment no big deal

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  11. Danthemilwfan

    7 years ago

    Damn he’s a good pitching coach, Cole sucked so we can do without him but Johnson did a great job

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  12. dust44

    7 years ago

    Wow look at the Refs hiring actual capable coaches.

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  13. Tim Liddicoat

    7 years ago

    Really unbelievable that the Brewers let DJ get away. He was unbelievable last year. Turned average pitchers into studs and always righted the ship after a mound visit. His best talent was knowing his staff and knowing when to pull a guy before too much damage was done. Sterns you messed up big time letting this guy leave Milwaukee.

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