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Dombrowski: Red Sox Unlikely To Sign Additional Relievers

By Steve Adams | February 25, 2019 at 1:29pm CDT

The Red Sox’ bullpen has been a source of scrutiny among fans and pundits alike for much of the offseason, and it seems quite likely that thinking will continue heading into the season. President of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski told reporters prior to today’s Spring Training contest that he doesn’t expect to sign any free-agent relievers between now and Opening Day (link via Rob Bradford of WEEI).

“As far as signings are concerned I would say we’re through at this point,” Dombrowski said when asked about his bullpen. Dombrowski wouldn’t expressly rule out the possibility of changing course if something in Spring Training necessitated an addition, but he added that at the moment, the Sox “don’t have anything going on outside the organization.”

It’s been apparent for quite some time now that a reunion between the Red Sox and Craig Kimbrel is exceedingly unlikely — Dombrowski himself has hinted at that reality — but it’s still somewhat of a surprise to hear a fairly definitive statement indicating that the Sox are done adding. The free-agent market for relievers has largely been picked over, but there are still some interesting big league arms in the form of Bud Norris, Adam Warren and Tony Sipp, among others (as can be seen in MLBTR’s Free Agent Tracker).

Boston, as explored here recently, is within roughly $4.7MM of the top luxury tax penalty bracket, which would see their top draft pick reduced by 10 spots next year and would come with a 75 percent tax on any dollar spent above that line. Given that Spring Training games are already underway, though, it seems unlikely that any reliever other than Kimbrel would command enough money to push the Sox across that line. Then again, perhaps the Sox are simply confident that they’ll be able to make any upgrades they need on the trade market this summer and would prefer to leave a bit of flexibility for that possibility.

It’s also worth noting that Dombrowski didn’t rule out adding a reliever at all, so perhaps the Boston will be active on the waiver and trade markets this spring — although it’s unlikely that an intriguing reliever would fall all the way to the Sox, who have the lowest priority after winning an MLB-high 108 games last year. The Sox could make some fringe additions to the ’pen in minor trades, though, as was the case back in November when they acquired Colten Brewer from the Padres. They’re also reportedly entertaining offers for their possible surplus of catchers, and it’s certainly feasible that they could add a big league bullpen asset by that measure.

[Related: Boston Red Sox depth chart]

Bradford writes that right-hander Matt Barnes is the early favorite for ninth-inning work with Boston this year, though he’ll have some competition from Ryan Brasier in that role. Beyond that pairing, the Sox will see what right-handers Brewer, Tyler Thornburg, Steven Wright, Brandon Workman, Hector Velazquez, Travis Lakins and Marcus Walden can bring to the table this spring. Lefty options include Brian Johnson, Bobby Poyner and Josh Taylor. As for minor league signees, the Sox brought Carson Smith back to the organization and also signed Zach Putnam, Brian Ellington and the recently un-banned Jenrry Mejia.

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  1. biffpocoroba

    6 years ago

    Well, look at that: Tony Watson slots at $3M for CBT purposes, and Will Smith slots at $4.225M

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    • basebaIl1600

      6 years ago

      It’s going to happen at the trade deadline. Watson and Smith for Chavis.

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      • xXabial

        6 years ago

        no way…

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        • basebaIl1600

          6 years ago

          Only person that would get it done. BoSox don’t have use for Chavis, a 23 year old third baseman who’s blocked by Rafael Devers, but the Giants would. A combination of Smith/Moronta or Watson/Smith alongside financial relief would get it done. And in case you didn’t pay attention or watch the games, Moronta, Watson, and Smith were 3 of the best relievers in baseball last year.

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          Giants don’t have a need for Chavis.

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        • Jbigz12

          6 years ago

          Giants have a need for any prospect they can get their hands on other than a catcher. This is team is full of aging declining vets. Any prospect would be an improvement.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          6 years ago

          Sox aren’t trading Chavis . Moreland and Pierce have contracts that are both up and it’s not likely both will be back. Sox will likely save money next year and use a youngster at 1B.

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        • xXabial

          6 years ago

          still no way

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        • bigkempin

          6 years ago

          So apparently you didn’t watch baseball last year.

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        • xXabial

          6 years ago

          enough to still say no way

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          There is no way Chavis would crack the lineup of the big club. He would probably only rate about #6 on their prospect list.

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        • xXabial

          6 years ago

          he’s currently #3

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        • User 4245925809

          6 years ago

          Agree Dewey. Even if Chavis is a fairly low average/high power guy at the MLB level, he’d be a fairly cheap one for the next few seasons and we’ve seen this ST and those of us who have MiLB tv have seen last cpl years also that he has a quick bat and superb power to all fields, not to mention the strike zone recognition seems to be getting a bit better, tho he’ll never be a high BB guy.

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        • ffrhb14Sox

          6 years ago

          I agree but they have Chavis and Dalbec as well as Devers. They can and likely will trade one especially since Casas is a similar projection at a lower level.

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          He’s mediocre defensively.

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          If Chavis went to the Giants, he’d be #6.

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        • Jbigz12

          6 years ago

          How the f do you figure that Vince? The giants have 2 top 100 prospects at most ranked by any major publication. MLB.com has Chavis 79. Behind only Bart. Ramos is at 91 so I could hear an argument for chavis being your 3rd best prospect. But there’s no way in hell any unbiased prospect evaluator would place chavis 6th in your system. He’s 3rd at worst 2nd at best.

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        • 123redsox

          6 years ago

          You are delusional. The sox are not trading their top position player prospect who KILLS the ball for a closer, nevermind a reliever. The closest comparison to them would be brad Ziegler in recent years and the sox gave up a bucket of balls for him. Also, Chavis is likely viewed as the first baseman of the future, hence why he moved to to first last year. Moreland and Pearce are only on one year deals

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          Chavis is not a 5 tool player. The only skill he has is raw power. Since he is an impatient hitter, he wouldn’t hit more then 5 homers at Oracle. So, why would you dump great pitching over mediocre hitting.

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        • Jbigz12

          6 years ago

          Will Smith is a pending FA and tony Watson has one more year left on his deal after this one. Hate to break it to you but neither of those guys is going to help a contending giants team. They could always sign Smith this offseason if they dealt him away now anyway.

          As for the Sox fans on Chavis.You really think DD is going to go into 2020 with this guy as plan A for 1B? DD trades prospects like they’re nothing. The Red Sox are up against the tax line so I could certainly see a scenario where they deal Chavis if another team eats the salary of the player coming back.

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          Why would the Giants want Michael Chavis? And what makes you think that Tony Watson, and Will Smith want to leave the Giants.

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          Why would the Giants want Michael Chavis?

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          You still haven’t answered my question. Why would the Giants want to trade Will Smith and Tony Watson for Michael Chavis? Major league talent for a questionable Minor leaguer.

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        • Jbigz12

          6 years ago

          Jesus you got a condition or something? Relax buddy I don’t sit on here waiting for your retort 24/7. Chavis is a top 100 prospect in all of baseball. Why would the Giants be interested in that? Well because they only have 2 guys who crack that list now. If you want to continually bash Chavis then you need to take a nice long look at your minor league system because he’d rank as your #2 or 3 prospect.

          And again you can trade Will Smith away and still sign him back this offseason. The Mets just traded Familia away last year and look where he ended back up. I was never saying it had to be Michael Chavis you were just posting some BS claims about how he’d be your 6th ranked prospect and I said that was a load of crap. The giants could clearly use an outfield prospect more than a corner infield guy but like I said they need a lot of young talent.

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        • SFGiants74

          6 years ago

          And yet, you keep responding. I still fail to see how trading Will Smith and Tony Watson for any old warm body will make the Giants better. You make trades to fill needs. Chavis doesn’t fill a need on the big club.

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      • SFGiants74

        6 years ago

        Nah. Doesn’t make sense for the Giants. They don’t need a DH. Besides, Chavis selling point, the long ball, would get swallowed up in Oracle.

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      • AtlSoxFan

        6 years ago

        Besides which, all the upside in the world doesn’t make Devers stick at 3rd… ahem Middlebrooks cough cough

        Little early to be dumping any other option.

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        • SJKinMD

          6 years ago

          Devers will be fine at 3b – he just needs work on his footwork. And no way are they trading Chavis for relief pitchers. At this point Chavis is probably the favorite to be their starter at 1b next year, since Mitchy and Pearce are both FAs, or he could wind up at 2b if Pedey’s knees are shot.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          6 years ago

          SJKinMD-you beat me to the punch1

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        • mookiessnarl

          6 years ago

          There is no way a guy whose ceiling is fringe-average defender at 3rd base is good enough to play second.

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      • koolga

        6 years ago

        Devers will be working out at 1st base next spring… Chavis will end up the 3rd baseman…

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        • Bruin1012

          6 years ago

          Devers is the the Red Sox third baseman. Chavis defense isn’t any better then Devers and Devers has the much higher upside. Dalbec is probably the better third baseman defensively then Devers and Chavis. The Red Sox have three young third baseman something is gonna give at some point.

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        • Bert17

          6 years ago

          Chavis is never going to make it as a 3rd baseman. If anyone moves Devers across the diamond, it’s going to be Dalbec. He’s got an above average glove and elite arm — teams lined him better as a pitcher in the draft, but he didn’t like pitching as much as hitting in college.

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    • Sk8rboi

      6 years ago

      JBJ, E Rod, Swihart, Devers, Groome for Bader, Wacha, Hicks

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      • bourbon

        6 years ago

        Bos can keep those players, pass.

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      • bronxbombers

        6 years ago

        That is a terrible deal

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      • ffrhb14Sox

        6 years ago

        Yes, trade your GG CF, your starting 3B who hit 20+HRs at 21 last year and is likely going to get better, a SP who is probably the best of the 3 mentioned in the trade and add in Swihart and someone still considered a high potential pitching prospect to end up with a downgrade in the OF, a hole at 3B and an extra starter. Good trade idea.

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      • xXabial

        6 years ago

        that sounds like an X trade…his 3rd account revealed

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    • KCJ

      6 years ago

      Wow haven’t thought of Biff Pocoroba in years…one of the greatest baseball names of all-time!

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  2. Connorsoxfan

    6 years ago

    Adam Warren would’ve been nice

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  3. xabial

    6 years ago

    Who cares.

    They won the WS with shaky bullpen. The “weakness”

    Sale closed games; Kimbrel lost every part of the plate?

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    • TreyMancini

      6 years ago

      But now they’ve lost the two best pieces of that bullpen. How do you not realize that?

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    • DarkSide830

      6 years ago

      Kimbrel and Kelly were the best parts of that bullpen last year.

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      • kenny217

        6 years ago

        Kelly wasn’t. Barnes and Brasier were better. Peoples memories are foggy because of the postseason.

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      • xabial

        6 years ago

        Kimbrel completely lost the plate, as well as the confidence of his manager in the playoffs.

        Honestly, even his playoff saves, were some ugliest. Kimbrel always offered hope to other teams, felt he was always on edge of imploding, to get that save.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          6 years ago

          Kimbrel had one great year in Boston. Other two years were good (until the playoffs) but is why you have to watch games and #$%# Sabermetricss. All of their other relievers were unreal in Octoberm

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      • TeddyBallgameYazJimEd

        6 years ago

        Kelly was not better than Brasier.. that’s not my opinion.. that’s a fact

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    • xXabial

      6 years ago

      you post the way Kimbrel pitched in playoffs

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      • clepto

        6 years ago

        Boom. Exactly. So sick and tired of reading his butchering of the English language. What a joke.

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        • xXabial

          6 years ago

          ironic we “both” have 5 down votes. at least we know how many accounts X has…haha

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        • PopeMarley

          6 years ago

          I gave you each 1 to make it an even 6, and added another one here.

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        • xXabial

          6 years ago

          awesome, thanks pal

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        • clepto

          6 years ago

          i gave you an upvote for honesty and the fact you can comment with discernable english, unlike Xabial.

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    • Black Ace57

      6 years ago

      You’re right. Screw having a good bullpen. Just because the Sox won it all now relievers are irrelevant! It’s not like the Astros, Cubs, and Royals won World Series with the help of good bullpens. And remember all the world series Dombrowski’s Tigers won with their terrible bullpens?

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      • AtlSoxFan

        6 years ago

        Except for a guy named Ortiz, the tigers would’ve had one that year most likely.

        Kelly was a high heat power arm, but wild much of the season until the postseason rolled around.

        Kimbrel was erratic through the year, couldn’t handle non-save situations, and, asking for 4 or more outs was an adventure to say the least.

        I’d say one of the kids from Pawtucket can fill Kellys shoes – they may not throw 100+, but they can probably find the plate more often.

        Kimbrel? Well, eovaldi can reprise his role in the postseason if needed and be better than kimbrel ever was. As far as the regular season goes, all of our candidates for internal closer were leaned on too heavily at times which wouldn’t occu, and would only help, through holding them back for save situations (ahem, barnes)

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        • Black Ace57

          6 years ago

          I’m not arguing whether Kimbrel or Kelly were good or not. My only issue is with xabial saying who cares if the bullpen is bad or that it isn’t important for a contender going all the way.

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          Kimbrel had a 0.955 whip last year. How erratic could he have been?

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        • Cora the Destroya

          6 years ago

          Look at his postseason WHIP. 1.1, 1.7, 2.2.

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        • Yankeedynasty

          6 years ago

          Don’t forget the age 32 this season. At the end of a four year deal he’ll be 36

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    • SFGiants74

      6 years ago

      Obviously you care. You are upset about something.

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  4. pasha2k

    6 years ago

    This is a scary scenario going into the season with the bull pen. Here’s hoping the starters can keep them going. The Evil Empire looks like Star Wars 3 ….the Empire Strikes Back!

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    • GOP Lizards

      6 years ago

      And I thought the RS took over the evil empire moniker years ago.

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    • nikki29a

      6 years ago

      umm empire strikes back was 2nd movie (episode 5) star wars 3/6 was return of the jedi

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  5. DarkSide830

    6 years ago

    who actually cares if they exceed the tax by a few million? its just like giving the guy a few more millions. shouldn’t be an issue for $3 mil a year relievers. Sox owner is wimp if you ask me.

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    • Chiguy

      6 years ago

      The math is the key in signing Kimbrel…… If they pay Kimbrel $14.7MM, they exceed the highest luxury tax level by $10MM….. That would put them on the hook for $7.5MM that they have to pay in overage…… In essence, Kimbrel would cost them a total of $32.5MM…… and adding any other players in the summer would add 75% to the actual amount they pay them as well……. Sure the owner doesn’t mind paying an overage(he already is), but an additional $17.5MM(+ more if you add more players) is like paying for a player that is not there. Basically like paying the ghost of McCutchen(His salary is roughly the overage amount).

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      • DarkSide830

        6 years ago

        Im not saying they pay Kimbrel, given his large demands. i think they could get three relievers for half as good for $2-3 million each in this market. sure they can risk waiting until the deadline to get an arm, but BP arms are in high demand at the deadline, and the Sox system isnt too great at the moment.

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        • Chiguy

          6 years ago

          I agree!

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      • xXabial

        6 years ago

        I believe DD is awaiting things out before panic mode. he wants to see if what he has now may come together. of it doesnt work then trade a catcher or use the 4 million you have left on a RP that remained unsigned.

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      • Yankeedynasty

        6 years ago

        I hate the luxury tax. It gives penalties to good teams for caring about winning and rewards bad teams for losing so they can find all new ways to be terrible

        I of course like that the Red Sox can’t get a reliever, but it is still unjust

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    • KCJ

      6 years ago

      I think losing 10 spots in the draft is a bigger deterrent than paying extra $$. That’s my guess as to why the Red Sox don’t wan’t to exceed the top bracket

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  6. SupremeZeus

    6 years ago

    Meh. They are going to roll w/ what they have. Evaluate. Then make moves as needed before or near the deadline. Not unreasonable.

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    • ffrhb14Sox

      6 years ago

      I think it is the exact best plan and have said that all winter while pundits make it a big story. They have spent big on the rotation so they should need less from their pen than other teams (thankfully, I like real SPs). Find out what you have in the group you have and maybe a few young arms in the minors. If it needs a boost in July that is the backup plan and laat year showed how the rotation takes the pen to another level in the postseaaon. They are in great shape and doing the right thing.

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  7. bbatardo

    6 years ago

    I just read it as them being confident they will be at or near the top of the division as they get closer to the trade deadline and they will probably make a deal or 2 then.

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    • bucketbrew35

      6 years ago

      Fiscally responsible? PLEASE. The front office made bank on that World Series victory and they are crying poor because of a “luxury tax.”

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      • petfoodfella

        6 years ago

        No one is crying poor in Boston. But it’s not smart to be that high. Why are so many people unable to realize this?

        Maybe that’s why credit card debt is so high.

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        • AtlSoxFan

          6 years ago

          I really don’t much care about the overage tax, especially given how much dead money contributed which was doled out by a prior FO.

          The part that DOES concern me is the loss of 10 first round draft slots (unless you’re signing a QO recipient anywaus), the attached loss of draft bonus pool, and the international slot getting dinged.

          Too many people forget there is more to the penalties now than just an overage tax like the old days

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        • KCJ

          6 years ago

          Bingo! Why aren’t people like bucketbrew35 getting that?

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  8. Guest617

    6 years ago

    shame on the sox for being fiscally responsible

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    • Willy Mays

      6 years ago

      Oh wait I have to stop laughing. You spoke about the Red Sox and fiscally responsible in one sentence. A 240 million payroll is being fiscally responsible.If they are fiscally responsible the Dodgers and Yankees are unbelievably cheap Most teams in the league should be prosecuted. Really give me a break

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      • ffrhb14Sox

        6 years ago

        He is actually right. For Boston, they make a profit even above the luxury tax so until they have to consider implications of the luxury cap, spending is just spending. Once you cross the cap then wwighing the additional cost of each expense is the definition of fiscal responsibility.

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      • Guest617

        6 years ago

        buy low sell high. at the end of the day it’s a business, clearly sox brass isnt valuing kimbrel’s future roi as team needs. ask the yankees/dodgers what spending like drunken sailors gets you.

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          Hey guest what are you talking about. The Yankees were not in the top 5 in spending last year and won 100+ games.The Dodgers were fourth and have gone to the WS two years in a row. The Boston Red Sox spent 35 million more then anyone else last year so they are the real drunken sailor and they won it all What exactly is your point.

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        • ffrhb14Sox

          6 years ago

          My guess is reference to Yanks being top 3 at worst for nearly every year for the last 2 decades and winning one WS. Dodgers got new ownership, started competing with Yanks for top spot and are still rolling 1988 highlights as their last WS success.

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          Well the way I see it if you mean decade as the 2000s and the 2010s they’ve won twice if you mean the last 20 years they’ve won 3 times. but more importantly dating back to 1995 they haven’t won less then 86 games in any season.There is no other team that comes even close to that standard.As to the Dodgers prior to new ownership they were not one of the big spenders and its only after they started spending that they started competing, But the point I was making is how can you talk about other teams spending like drunken sailors when explaining why the Red Sox aren’t signing Kimbrel because they don’t want to spend that much .They’ve been spending money like drunken sailors forever. They’ve been in the top 3 for a long time and they are now far and away the biggest spenders. Last year they spent 47 million dollars more then the Yankees and 44 million more then the Dodgers

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  9. adshadbolt1

    6 years ago

    Do they have any salary to trade that wouldn’t affect them to much, Pedroia but no one will take him and no trade. The need Nunez if u ask me, they need porcello to eat innings,

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    • AtlSoxFan

      6 years ago

      Moreland, Nunez, or Vasquez are the least painful ways to free up cash, but have flexability to bring something to the equation.

      Not sure Pearce is everyday 1b material, and Cora will need his supersubs again if he plans to go with regular and frequent rest for the starters.

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    • Seamaholic

      6 years ago

      JBJ is the obvious answer. I’m really surprised they haven’t marketed him (maybe they have). They have two totally fine CF options in Benintendi and Betts, and JD can play in left at Fenway (if Manny could …)

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  10. bucketbrew35

    6 years ago

    So pathetic.

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    • KCJ

      6 years ago

      The fact that you don’t understand, yet keep making these types of comments, is what’s pathetic

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  11. goob

    6 years ago

    I think SA forgot to include Heath Hembree in the mix.

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    • jmi1950

      6 years ago

      They also left out D. Hernandez and Feltman.

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  12. Rich Hill’s Elbow

    6 years ago

    I always thought they were bluffing, guess I was wrong. Go get him Twins!!!

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  13. dellarocco72

    6 years ago

    The more they say it … the more I think that they’ll sign Kimbrel

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    • Burback

      6 years ago

      Unless he drastically comes down off his asking price and comes back down to earth, maybe then they’ll talk again, he’s asking for way too much for someone who has shakey control and can’t pitch in the playoffs, and Boston has plenty of good options to choose form in the minors when it comes to filling a bullpen spot

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  14. swanhenge

    6 years ago

    Bogus and unacceptable. I cannot believe this is the popular opinion in the Boston FO. They can monitor all they want throughout the first half if the season, but they dont have any pieces anyone else wants/needs. With all the relievers who were available this off season, I think it’s a major failure they weren’t able to bolster the pen.

    DD has been on point for the most part in Bos, but this one’s gonna bite him in the hindpart.

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  15. Chiguy

    6 years ago

    Roster Resource! I had not seen his additions since the first chat with the Boss when he indicated he had fired him. I wonder if they made up and are back trying to work together……

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  16. phenomenalajs

    6 years ago

    How crazy would it be if Jennry Mejia wound up being the Sox’ closer?

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  17. Scrap1ron

    6 years ago

    That’s as unbelievable as the Indians not addressing their weak OF.

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    • luvbeisbol

      6 years ago

      Yes, but it’s the same phenomenon. CLE almost cannot lose the AL Central with the other four teams tanking. So why spend? The players are hosed from both ends: non-bidding losing teams and complacent winning teams.

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      • Willy Mays

        6 years ago

        luv you are exactly right.It’s a little better in the NL because the lack of talented teams is so astounding that you can compete with a low payroll.In the NL anyone can compete because no teams are very good in the AL though their are so many teams not even trying that it is ridiculous. In the NL an 85 win team is right in it

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        • KCJ

          6 years ago

          @Willie Mays Hayes
          Teams in the AL have the benefit of beating up on all of those tanking teams that you are referring to. That makes it a whole lot easier to pile up victories than in the ultra-competitive NL. The talent disparity is nowhere close to as big as you make it sound

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          You mean competitive teams like the Giants Marlins Arizona San Diego Cinncinati. The AL East last year had 3 teams over 90 wins two teams over 100 wins and they each had to play each other a lot. The West had two teams 97 wins or better. 4 teams 80 wins or better The NL East had 2 teams over 500 the West 2 teams over 506 what the heck are you talking about . The Braves didn’t have anyone better then a 506 in there division to play. No team in the West won more then 91 games. Yes there are bad teams in the AL but there are ridiculously few even decent teams in the NL. Last year a mediocre team like the Nats got to play 3 teams in there division with 80 wins or less on a regular basis and they still only won 82 games. Exactly who were these NL teams banging there heads against. If they were in the AL East every team but Atlanta in the NL East would’ve won about 70 games

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      • Yankeedynasty

        6 years ago

        Bit in the postseason you NEED to get PAs from good hitters, not Leonys Martin

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  18. luvbeisbol

    6 years ago

    BOS almost cannot possibly miss the playoffs with eight AL teams tanking and two others, LAA and TAM, not very good. This is another side of the players’ lament, not as obvious as the many non-bidders. When contenders get too comfortable this happens.

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    • Yankeedynasty

      6 years ago

      TB is ok, they could sneak into a Wild Card. Boston is good but the Yankees are better. I could see them losing a wild card, which is only one playoff loser, not REALLY making it

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  19. Colemania87

    6 years ago

    Typical DD… exactly what he built in Detroit

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    • swanhenge

      6 years ago

      Yep, totally. Last thing we need is a bench full of gas cans like the 2013 Det bullpen.

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    • ffrhb14Sox

      6 years ago

      When were they defending champs in Detroit?

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      • Burback

        6 years ago

        Defending AL champs in 2013 lol

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        • Burback

          6 years ago

          As in heading into 2013 that is..my bad

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    • GarryHarris

      6 years ago

      You can’t blame Dave Dombrowski for Jim Leyland being unable to manage a bullpen.

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  20. Bert17

    6 years ago

    Please grab Sipp on a minor league deal.

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  21. SG

    6 years ago

    Look at it logically financially.
    The stands will be full at home and away when the Red Sox play so why should they spend any more money this year especially when it will cost them $1.75 for every dollar they spend beyond the next $4.7 M.
    The only issue is can they go all the way with this team?
    My opinion is that they need a great closer.
    I don’t see that in their pen now.
    I see talent and potential.
    Perhaps DD has a Trade Deadline reliever acquisition in store?
    Since DD has no GM contract after 2019 I suspect he is walking a tightrope.
    Let’s not forget he signed Miggy to that horrible contract in Detroit
    And let’s not forget John Henry has had his full of dogs like Sandoval, Castillo and Crawford that got the big contracts and were total disappointments..
    So I believe the Red Sox are content to get the wild card and see if they can do it again the harder way.
    But we’ll see, maybe one of these current bullpen guys emerges as a quality closer. Time will tell.

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    • butch779988

      6 years ago

      You think they are content to get the wildcard??? Derangement.

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      • SG

        6 years ago

        Yes I think they are content to get the wild card.

        I think it’s clear DD is saying that because he and the organization are not willing to pay any more than they have in 2019 and if they don’t win the division then I believe they believe winning a wild card spot is very likely with this current team without Kimbrel..

        So why don’t you tell me why “YOU” would pay all of those “EXTRA” bucks to win the division?

        What does that do for you? Boston beats the other wild card and then faces the Yankees. They beat them last year.

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  22. Bruin1012

    6 years ago

    What the Red Sox are doing is, on the surface, risky but if you look deeper makes a lot of sense.

    The Red Sox are right up against that final luxury tax line which means if they sign Kimbrel then he is going to cost 75% more then his actual salary. From a pure business sense this doesn’t make sense not to mention the future ramifications of signing him long term to future Red Sox signings.

    The Red Sox have plenty of talent on the rooster to repeat as long as they make the playoffs. There is always a chance that one of their current relievers or someone like Durbin Feltman steps up and becomes a quality closer. If they don’t then Boston will still probably make the playoffs as a wild card and they can reshuffle their team and use starters in the pen just like last year. They would be a scary team in the playoffs assuming no major injuries.

    I understand what Boston is trying to do here and let be honest barring serious injuries to key players they probably make the playoffs with or without Kimbrel.

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    • SG

      6 years ago

      Thank you.

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    • Burback

      6 years ago

      Finally someone reasonable

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  23. canocorn

    6 years ago

    DD;

    Hey, big spender, send,
    —- A lot of dough towards me!

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  24. denny816

    6 years ago

    Is the thought that Darwinzon Hernandez could be a high leverage option in 2020? Seems like he’s destined for a setup/closer role.

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  25. Unclenolanrules

    6 years ago

    All you Red Sox fans should ask some Tigers fans how many super awesome bullpens they had under Dombrowski.

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    • ffrhb14Sox

      6 years ago

      He won in Florida, gave Detroitlegit chances to win and already has won in Boston. I think he is doing alright. The super bullpen era is boring, they have plenty if their rotationis as good as tgey are being paid.

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    • SG

      6 years ago

      Nov. 13th, 2015

      BOSTON — The Red Sox acquired an electric, four-time All-Star closer in Craig Kimbrel on Friday night, sending four prospects to the San Diego Padres.

      Dave Dombrowski’s first major acquisition since being hired by the Red Sox as president of baseball operations in August was a doozy, one that paves the way for a bullpen that could dominate in the late innings.

      So I guess that proves DD dislikes closers … LOL

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      • Unclenolanrules

        6 years ago

        I said bullpens. Tigers from 2004-2014 (I gave him the benefit of not counting his first 2 years on the job) the Tigers bullpens were 19th in saves, 26th in ERA, and 29th in WAR. Granted Leyland is somewhat responsible as well, but at DETROIT, he just cobbled together pieces. Also, when they signed Kimbrell, that to me was him learning a little from his mistakes. I don’t blame them for not re-signing him, but not shoring up the back end a little seems like back to old habits. That’s why they play the games I guess.

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        • ffrhb14Sox

          6 years ago

          Bullpen was supposedly weak last year but was top 10 by most measures. They brought back most of the group and will change some roles, lets see if its a problem or not.

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  26. SG

    6 years ago

    When you squeeze a balloon it expands in other areas,
    it also does with a budget.
    If they keep Miggy in Detroit and pay Miggy the big bucks then somethings gotta give somewhere else in the budget.
    I suspect DD builds the team based on the values he sees available before him.
    If he is light in the pen then perhaps he will add to the pen at the trade deadline or in the off-season if he sees a reasonable value?
    Perhaps DD finds that the pen is an easier area to add to at the trade deadline?
    Who knows?
    I agree that it would be great to keep Kimbrel but I’d also like to have a 20 year old body again … LOL.
    It’s hard to have your cake and eat it too. Everyone wants an All Star team.
    I suspect most GM’s try and jockey their teams into the running for a shot at a playoff spot first (with what they’ve got or can get within their off-season budget) and then to find a way to top it off when they are headed to the finish line.
    Does that make sense?
    Also, good coaching can get the most out of players you might not think you can.
    The coaching staff is not included in the luxury tax budget.
    So if there is an area a team can spend extra on it may be that.
    Good managers, coaches, scouts, trainers player development, saber-metrics and staff.
    That could be the edge that make the difference.

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