Mariners GM Jerry Dipoto is evidently cooking up some pre-Thanksgiving surprises for fans of the franchise. The reported addition of Kendall Graveman is but one of two pitching signings in the works, according to Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times (links to Twitter).
So, is it the turkey or another side? It seems we’ll find out tomorrow morning, when Divish says the second deal for a starting pitcher will likely be announced.
The M’s entered the winter with obvious needs in the rotation. As MLBTR’s TC Zencka characterized things in rounding up the needs and opportunities for the Seattle org, it seemed possible that the club would pursue as many as three new starting pitching candidates on the open market and/or in trade.
Graveman — one of the possible targets that TC noted — is likely pegged to take one rotation spot. But he could soon be joined by another. It isn’t impossible to imagine the Mariners making a bit of a splash here. No, we’re not expecting another Robinson Cano-sized surprise. But the club has the payroll availability needed to pursue just about any pitcher it likes. It’s also possible, of course, that the other new incoming arm will be more of a depth option than a clear-cut rotation piece.
We won’t offer any specific guesses here, as the possibilities are more or less endless. Dipoto is nothing if not freewheeling. There are some intriguing overseas possibilities, in addition to the full slate of available pitchers that threw in the majors last year. Could be mashed taters and gravy; might be little tiny onions. Hopefully it isn’t canned cranberry “sauce.” It’ll be fun to see who strolls into Seattle with Graveman for Turkey Day.
MB923
Bartolo!
StandUpGuy
It’s gonna be Gerrit Cole. Joel Sherman has already reported it.
StandUpGuy
And by Joel Sherman I mean my unemployed friend whose name happens to be Joel Sherman. He is standing right next to me and told me that information only after reading the article. He seems trustworthy.
Say Hey Now Kid
Your unemployed friend probably knows more than the other Joel Sherman
PinstripedPride
LOL
jkoch717
No he hasn’t.
StandUpGuy
You definitely don’t know my friend Joel, jkoch. There is no way you could possibly know what he said. I just asked him and he laughed at the thought of even being associated with someone like you.
axisofhonor25
And Gerrit Cole just laughed at the thought of playing on the non-competitive rebuilding Mariners team that is going no-where for at least two years.
pt57
I’m sure if the Mariners kicked an extra suitcase full of cash or two, Cole would stop laughing.
kzw
If his display after the World Series means anything, Gerrit Cole doesnt care much about winning. He cares about money. I could be way off base, but it sure seemed that way to me.
angels fan 3
No it’s actually David Price. Didn’t you see his stuff on MLB Network last week? He played GM for a day and proposed that all teams trade for David Price by taking on all the money and giving up 1-2 prospects
SocraticGadfly
Ellsbury! The Ellsbury Doughboy is coming to Seattle.
schellis 2
And he’s transferring to pitching. Thats a bold Dipoto style move.
MafiaBass
Especially considering his candy arm
Neil5611
Lol, made my day!
Danbino
How long before Dipoto trades them both?
Hiro
Hopefully not one of the top 50 FAs, since I didn’t pick any arms to go to the M’s.
jorge78
I will inform Dipoto. He will
adjust accordingly…..
jorge78
I will inform Dipoto. I’m
sure he will adjust accordingly…..
Buddy “Bud” Hull
I am hoping for Tehran, but am I holding my breath? Nope.
DTD_ATL
As a Braves fan, trust me, you don’t want him
5toolMVP
There are worse options
Psychguy
Wow, Gravemen is not the answer.
dshires4
Lol there is no answer. They’re two years out. Signing “the answer” now isn’t in the cards because there is no one single answer.
Psychguy
You cannot pin point the “right time.” Some would say the White Sox are not quite ready yet they just committed 4 years to Grandal. If M’s can lock up a quality guy for 3-4 years why not?
gavinrendar
So we’re using the White Sox as the de facto standard for how to approach the win curve?
dshires4
You can’t pinpoint it to a day, sure. If you want to nitpick, you’re technically correct. But by Dipoto’s own measure, 2020 is still a step back year. And if the Mariners thought they were one piece away and the answer was out there, it wouldn’t have been Graveman.
bloomquist4hof
2021 will likely also be a step back.
dshires4
I hope. I don’t want them to rush and be forced to rely upon every prospect panning out.
rct
I don’t think signing Allen Iverson would be a good move even in two years.
khopper10
Underrated comment
throwinched10
Alex Wood or Rick Porcello.
kylegocougs
I’ll call Ivan Nova
Amanda2019
I hope it is a big name, while im not a mariners fan, seeing them trade and get anyone is fun, no teams do this, i think last off season they made like 14 trades? not kidding, they swapped everyone in like a week, ‘;crosses fingers’ DAVID PRICE? i hope, get him out of my tv every 5 days watching my team, plus it would help them get another well known pitcher after Felix.
Vin Scully
And look how well it went for Seattle.
DieHardMsFan
Went great honestly. Got rid of a lot of future payroll and rebuilt the farm. The team as it was constructed was not going anywhere and now we have a bunch of prospects (little in terms of pitching though) and payroll flexibility to add free agents either next year or the year after.
gavinrendar
It went very well. If you’re judging their 2019 season by win-loss record, you’re doing “know what the Mariners are doing” wrong.
Amanda2019
also speaking of boston, dont be shocked if its Porcello
jdgoat
Iwakuma
uvmfiji
Felix Hernandez!!!
PapiElf
C.C. Sabathia??
StandUpGuy
Like get him to unretire? That would be tight.
Phiilies2020
Jared Eickhoff
Christopher_Oriole
A trade with the Orioles for Dylan Bundy.
Alfred E Neuman
Or instead of speculating with ridiculous food metaphors, they could just wait until there is actual, you know, news to report. Like a signing. It’s obviously a slow news day and week.
NLD_14
The site is called MLB Trade “rumors” lol
seth3120
It’s called a mlbtradeRUMORS not mlbtradeOFFICIAL for a reason
gavinrendar
And they didn’t even speculate…
jerrytek
Alex Wood or Michael Pineda.
DTD_ATL
I picked Pineda to them in the contest so I hope you’re right.
MafiaBass
Why would they take him back?
jerrytek
Because he’s good at baseball?
Ry.the.Stunner
Mariners: “we have two pre-Thanksgiving surprises for our rotation that we’re sure will delight our fans”
Also Mariners: “I present to you…Kendall Graveman and Drew Smyly”
MetsFanaticDanny
It’s Rich Hill, 2 yrs, $20 million.
Rumncoke
prolly just a inning eater. nothing big
bobtillman
Can’t understand the DiPoto hate here. The 25th guy on most teams’ rosters are probably better than the #20 guy on the Mariners’; why not get all of them if you can.
They have money, they have a decent pipeline (it’s impact; not much quantity but the top guys are quality), and a reasonable approach. You’re going to have to kiss a lot of frogs to get a couple of princes.
chino31
The problem with Seattle is they need to overpay for a FA to sign. No one wants to deal with the extra travel time. Look at Cano. They exceeded the Yankees by years and about 80mm bux just to sign him.
jbigz12
Im pretty sure Seattle won’t have any issue attracting top free agents if they can build a competitive team through their farm. DiPoto’s Mariners are in much better shape than they were a year ago w Diaz and Cano in town.
They really don’t need to be gunning for any big free agents now. They have a lot of young guys who need playing time. Grab a couple back end starters to fill out the rotation and see what you have. Next year should be the first year for them to potentially make big additions in free agency
jbigz12
Though they probably should add a couple middle tier bounce back relievers. Good chance they can recoup value on those guys if it works out. And they certainly have the roster space for them.
c1234
I’m going to guess it’s wacha
mlbfan
The M’s do have Paul Davis formerly of St Louis in the org. My guess is Cody Anderson.
Ichiro51
I highly doubt they are signing any high end rotation piece based on their overall team outlook. if that was the case they would need to sign him to a LONG term contract, long enough to where that pitcher is able to not only help improve the rotation but be part of winning team. at this point I wouldn’t spend a dime on a player and just go after young players through trading our veterans. Mariners are 3 years away from atleast being competitive.
hoof hearted
sorry, but 3 years away and they will be dumping guys that are expensive:Haniger, Gonzo
BuddyBoy
They won’t be trading Gonzo, perhaps they trade Haniger but it won’t be a dump and he’s NOT expensive. As for three years away, it depends on what you are considering what they are away from. If you think it’s three years before they are competitive, I think you’re off. This year will be about implementing young guys thru the season and letting them develop. 2021 will be about continued development and adding to what they have but I’d fully expect them to be competitive. I do think that 2022 is the first year that they realistically can be thinking about winning the division or more.
craigmiller13
Asher Wojciechowski
richt
Jeff went off the deep end with the Thanksgiving references.
GothamGuy
it’s James Shields, definitely !! Lol
Slothcliff Hokum
If the plan is to buy time for up-and-coming young minor league starting pitchers to develop a bit more, I suppose hiring some warm bodies for the major league rotation is one way to go. As a longtime fan, continued patience is difficult and one always hopes for a bit more… but this is a rebuild after all. Best to not rush talents like Logan Gilbert and George Kirby if they don’t have to.
spooky
My favorite posts are the ones that proclaim how many years a team is away from at least contending. Hilarious. Keep up the good work people.
Rounding3rd
We need a poll question here, Jeff!!!
muskie73
“Rotation signing” might be a bit outdated as the Seattle Mariners lead other teams to a mix-and-match approach in pitching.
Most pitchers will be expected to go more than one inning, whether it be innings 2-4, 6-8 or 1-3. The sharp distinction between starters and relievers may be fading.
Kendall Graveman and next signee may be better described as multiple-inning pitchers.
Or not.
TeddyBallagme
Jordan Lyles next
mlbfan
Lyles would be a decent pickup.
Jordowith
Sign him now we don’t wanna wait until the morning
kiddhoff
Wade Miley. 2 yrs$12 mil. That’s what I’m hearing
BuddyBoy
No way they’re being Miley back. Not to mention Wade was horrible the last two months of the year.
Cuso
Enter Dallas Keuchel
yamsi1912
Resigning King Felix
jorge78
Insert the comments from cranberry sauce lovers…..
Dorothy_Mantooth
Someone from the KBO or Japan…book it!
stevenlhume
I would put my money on Ryu.
Slothcliff Hokum
That would sure be nice. One can dream!
BuddyBoy
It’s going to be someone short term for lower end $$
hoof hearted
Homer Bailey
Melchez
“We won’t offer any specific guesses here, as the possibilities are more or less endless.”
No Way!! The name of the site is MLBT”Rumors”, you have to give us something. I mean, you guys basically told us the Dodgers like good players and could be in the market for good players. You have to come up with something for the Mariners… I mean…
Howie Steenilowitz of the Washington Sun mentions that he noticed a large gathering of Asian looking folks in the airport… could this be Kwang-hyun Kim?
Marty Martinowitz of the Arthritic mentioned in his pod cast that Andrew Cashner was rumored to be interested in signing a major league contract with someone and maybe that someone is the Seattle Mariners?
Adam Schiff heard from someone who knew someone that thought they heard from someone else that Randy Johnson was making a come back and talking with the Mariners.
PiratesFan1981
It would be funny if it was Chris Archer lol. It would be a bold move and a cheap trade.
1738hotlinebling
Homer Bailey , Kyle Gibson, .. Matt Harvey
Rosstradamus
Shun Yamaguchi or Kwang-Hyun Kim….I mean Why Not at this point!