With Nationals co-ace and World Series MVP Stephen Strasburg opting out of his contract and preparing to hit free agency, the Padres are gearing up to make a push for the right-hander’s services. According to Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune, “multiple people in the [Padres] organization indicated over the past few days that the team will be in position to make a run at Stephen Strasburg.”
The connection is clear: Strasburg, 31, was born and raised in and around San Diego, attending college at San Diego State University, where he was coached by Padres legend Tony Gwynn. That alone has instantly forced the Padres into the conversation as a suitor for the former first overall draft choice. Everybody loves a good homecoming story, but one not need look further than Strasburg’s own teammate, Patrick Corbin, as an example of a free agent who was widely regarded as a near-lock to join his hometown Yankees, only to sign on with the Nats. That’s not to say the Strasburg-Padres link doesn’t hold any salt, but there will certainly be more variables that factor into Strasburg’s final decision, and it would behoove the Padres to refrain from relying too much on the hometown trope in recruiting Strasburg.
As Acee notes, the prevailing view around the industry is that the Nationals, who according to MLB Network’s Jon Heyman are poised to immediately enter talks with Strasburg, remain the favorites to retain their franchise icon. After opting out of the remaining four years and $100MM on his current deal, the Scott Boras client will be seeking a nice raise on the heels of arguably his best season. He struck out a career-high 251 batters while pitching his most innings since 2014—not including the stellar 36 1/3 innings he logged during the Nats’ title run. Regardless, the Friars’ interest is notable in that it represents a logical progression of the franchise rebuild, which looks to be entering its final stages.
To be sure, location isn’t the only thing that makes Strasburg and the Padres compatible—there’s a fit on paper, as well. Still without a top-flight starter, Strasburg would greatly bolster the Padres’ chances in the coming season. Rookie Chris Paddack and Dinelson Lamet were the most impressive cogs in the starting rotation, but the depth beyond that pair is troubling. Garrett Richards is healthy and will be back in 2020, and top prospects like Adrian Morejon, Michel Baez, and Cal Quantrill have graduated to the big leagues. Each of those youngsters could take a second-year leap and contribute to the 2020 rotation, but banking on that would put a lot on the shoulders of an inexperienced group that hasn’t yet shown that they can stick on a Major League staff.
The Padres have long been regarded as a team on the rise, with a healthy stable of prospects that has led many to pronounce the Friars as the next coming of the Cubs or Astros. But potential can only get you so far, and many are itching for the front office to show a sense of urgency and capitalize on the depth of young talent in the organization. Indeed, the front office’s recent actions indicate that the organization feels its window for contention is opening: signing Manny Machado and Eric Hosmer firmly declared the team’s desire to transition into a win-now mode. They were rumored to be in talks for top-flight trade targets like Noah Syndergaard, Corey Kluber, and Marcus Stroman, ultimately coming up empty-handed.
Of course, adding a pitcher of Strasburg’s caliber would require the Padres to ratchet up the 2020 payroll. Roster Resource pegs San Diego’s current obligations at roughly $120MM, a number that includes projected salaries for arbitration-eligible players. Of course, some of those players may be non-tendered, and Wil Myers, owner of a hefty $22.5MM salary, is a candidate to be traded. Such moves could partially offset the cost of adding Strasburg, which could come in at a bill exceeding $30MM annually. While San Diego’s deep farm system has made the trade market its primary recourse for acquiring Major League talent, it’s not every day that a pitcher like Strasburg could be had where money is the only cost.
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Padres should be contenders next year with him
With Strasburg, yeah, and without Myers, Hosmer and a RP for Kershaw (straight salary swap); without Renfroe, Margot and Lamet for Betts (conditional on an extension); and without either Hedges, #26 prospect Blake Hunt and Franchy Cordero for Pirates 1B Josh Bell OR without Yates, #24 prospect Pedro Avila, Michel Baez and Wingenter for A’s 1B Matt Olson. SPs are now 1) Strasburg, 2) Kershaw, 3) Paddack, 4) MacKenzie Gore, 5) Richards. Position players are C Mejia, 1B Bell or Olson, 2B #5 prospect Xavier Edwards, SS Tatis Jr., 3B Machado, LF #4 CJ Abrams, CF #2 Taylor Trammell and RF Mookie Betts. Every team out there will bow down to my Padres. Dodger fans will just assume the position.
Sir, have you been drinking tonight?
So any things wrong with this I don’t even know where to start.
Put the pipe down..
Sir, just like the Jim Beam commercials, I’ll be drinking only when it’s the booze I personally make a couple of weeks after my Padres win their WS title with this group.
You might wanna start by saying either “anything” or “..many things”, depending on what you have in mind. Don’t like the players listed? We already have most of them, except Kershaw, Betts and either Olson or Bell, hence the trades. Strasburg is only gonna cost money.
The pipe’s actually due to be inserted into L.A.
Yikes…you should stop posting when you’re even getting booed by your own team’s fans lol
You my daft fellow ooze Brown and Yellow.
1) They’re not Padres fans, 2) So who cares what they think or do, 3) Or you, for that matter.
Gimme a minute and you can roll in it.
Padres fans are always just stupidly delusional.
And all other authoritarian-enabler baseball fans and their stable genius commissioner are acting in the best interest of the USA Padres. Is that about it, Benedicts?
Strasburg going for Garrett Cole Money. !
And that would be unwise for most clubs to spend.
Right, The ink didn’t dry on the Price and Sale deals before they became anchors.
What about Scherzer?
Also, it should be noted that Sale fell off a little due to nagging injuries. So it’s not like he his skills diminished.
What about Scherzer, Kershaw, Verlander etc.?
I appreciate the Padres actually spending, but what about in 7 or 8 years when you need to pay the prospects, you’re still paying Machado, and still paying Strasburg at the end of his deal!
Padres are so deep with prospects they got things on and off the 30 that will become currency
Prospects are just suspect!!!
Yup but that’s what teams want these days.
They want players
Teams want prospects so that they can afford to sign guys like Machado and Strasburg.
Most “prospects” ultimately either don’t make it at all or fail to fully live up to expectations.
Take any team in baseball, google their top 100 prospects from 2014 or so, then see how many of those names you still recognize today.
“Regardless, the Friars’ interest is notable in that it represents a logical progression of the franchise rebuild, which looks to be entering its final stages.”
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Been reading that for the last 2 years.
Exactly the Dombrowski philosophy. His recent mistakes in my view were in the last big money signings. Team screwed up in paying for two pitchers with injury histories, Eolvaldi and Sale. What would Sale be commanding today. Probably a one year show me deal or something like JDM’s. Less bucks per year but a quick opt out for if he shows he’s healthy. My guess is the team could have saved $10 – $15m in 2020 had they waited.
It’s Preller and his Jedi mind trick. There are actually fans that think he should get another 3-4 years to “complete his plan.”
to trade Meyers, they will likely have to include at least one top stud. Might be worth if for a team like Detroit, Kansas City or Baltimore to escalate their rebuild. Might be most beneficial for the White Sox which already have some young players ready. Anyone taking that contract won’t have to give up much.
KC is a small market team that can’t pay that type of contract for a bad player. Detroit has a huge, bad contract in Miquel Cabrera and Baltimore has one horribly bad contract with Chris Davis. How can those teams have two players with big contracts that are not very good?
It will be very hard to get rid of Myers without paying most of the contract. or taking on another high priced poor performing player,
Point well taken. On top of that, you have to wonder if he’s willing to spend the next several years with a non-contending team, especially since he’s tasted the ultimate success with the Nationals.
Yes but not many indications that Nats can/will keep that up.
When they sign Rendon they will!!!
The Nationals have as good of a shot as anyone not named LA in the National League. They’re going to be a contender as long as Scherzer, Stras and Corbin are on the hill. Can’t minimize what they just did. That’s a good team. With 2 guys very solid young players who haven’t even entered their prime yet. We’ll see what they do to replace Rendon but that’s a pretty good team.
I’m willing to take a bet on that. They had a lot of things go right, which is what you need to win a WS, but let’s be real. They should’ve lost to the Brewers/ should’ve faced the Braves in the NLCS, and not a weak, lightning in a bottle team in the Cardinals. Besides if they make it back they’re going to have to do it from a WC spot again. On top of that have a lot of Howie Kendrick type of moments also. So while it could happen, the chances of it coming to fruition a second time are very small.
The Nats were division champs in 2012, 2014, 2015, and 2017. They didn’t have a great postseason record, but some will blame Dusty Baker and the prior managers for that. Davey Martinez has done a tremendous job in the clubhouse getting the kind of performance needed to go all the way — I think the Nats are going to be contenders for a while, even if they don’t immediately repeat their WS success. By letting Harper go, the Nats have a bunch of guys who have come together as a team, and are not about individual glory.
The Giants-tying 3 World Series titles in ten years will be worth it, don’t you think?
Strasburg and Paddack would be a lethal 1-2 punch.
Richards paddack lamet
What are the odds that Richards pitches more than 100 innings?
More than 100 innings… now is that a hard 101 are you referring to 120ish plus
Richards is a coin flip at this point but is a typical 5th starter gamble. His talent is better than that of a 5th starter but his injury history almost cancels that out. Lucchessi is a solid number 3 and Lamet as the 4th could make that rotation among the top 5 in baseball.
But wasn’t most of Richards’ injury history due to the UCL which they have now fixed with Tommy John surgery?
No Tatis. As an Angel he had other injuries that kept him off the mound more than he pitched. The worst of which was the time he covered 1st and his knee cap detached and traveled to his thigh…ouch.
Most “prospects” ultimately either don’t make it at all or fail to fully live up to expectations.
Take any team in baseball, google their top 100 prospects from 2014 or so, then see how many of those names you still recognize today.
Or we could google everyone’s roster and see how many were prospects. They don’t all work out but when you hit you have some serious surplus value. If you think they have little value think no further than the Astros. They may have lost a tough WS but they recently won a title and are still stacked because of those types of prospects. Either playing them or using them for proven veterans via trade
Cool. Now, how would you feel if the Padres took that logic and applied it to their minor leagues this offseason by trading away Gore, Trammel, and others for win now players? My guess is you’d be pretty upset. So while yes, they don’t always work out, they still are valued.
I hate seeing that cliche. It’s annoying and implies that no one should even bother with minor league players. So let’s take a step back next time and rephrase.
Paddack needs to mature a little bit.
Not only was he knocked around pretty good between May and August, but he also had a bit of a cow because Pete Alonzo was named rookie of the week or month or something instead of him. That looks rather lame in retrospect, eh?
Most players become jerks when they fail or struggle for the first time. In Paddack’s case, he had probably never been out done by someone with the same tenure like the way that Alonso did.
Actually, it’ll be Strasburg, Kershaw, Paddack, Gore and Richards.
You’re so obsessed with the Dodgers it creeps me out lol
Padres….,A trade in baseball requires an agreement between both teams. From what I’ve read, Kershaw will remain a Dodger.
6×160? How off am I?
1×50?
probably need to be closer to 6×200
He turns 32 during the season.
He’s had 2 full seasons
I think you’re light…AAV will have to be at least 30m to get him to leave Washington
6×160 feels right to me, idk why there is an expectation Stras will blow the Corbin deal out of the water when he is older, albeit with a longer track record of success
I think that gets it done !
5 or 6 years at $25 million AAV
Logan Allen was traded to the Indians.
What teams would take on Myers? Gonna have to add prospects to that trade. Can’t see them eating any money.
idk, honestly wouldn’t mind seeing the Reds trying to work something out. Pirates might make more sense. I know he’s been plain below average but maybe a different setting and instructional approach is what he needs.
Marlins or Rays could add that salary while bolstering their system with prospects. Heck, Oakland could too and Myers is the ultimate change of scene player who would benefit from a new environment.
Myers is ultimate loser no team paying him
above league minimum
The Rays already got rid of Myers once.
That’s why they are smart after he won Rookie of Year, 1 postseason with him balls bouncing off head no hitting they put him on trade block
KC got rid of him too. In both cases, it was his attitude and work ethic.
It will take prospects but his AAV is only 13.8m so the teams that push the luxury tax (or want to push it) may be interested…but it will take multiple of the Padres top 10 prospects to get this done. I’m not sure they can ‘salary dump’ him a la the NBA but they may be able to get more bang for their buck(s)
For instance, the Cubs save 7+ million against the luxury tax with a Myers +2 for Darvish (essentially the same salaryfor Padres) Or the Red Sox save 17+ million against cap with a similar Myers+?/Price deal…if Price is healthy…Padres would add 10m in salary per year for 3 years over what they’re paying now…even the oft-injured Price may be worth that.
The problem with your two suggestions, mikemac, is that Darvish and Price are still useful players playing a position of need. Myers is not a useful player.
It won’t take any top 100 prospects to get some team to take on Myers. All it will take is the Padres eating half of his contract. With the Padres paying half his remaining contract his AAV to the team trading for him is $8.83 million.
The Padres may not get back any prospects of note, but they will be out from under $30 million of the $60 million he is guaranteed. .
Per baseball reference Wil Myers is making $22.5m a year the next 3 years and then a $1m buyout of his club option for 2023. So if the Padres were to pay half his remaining contract (and all of the buyout for good measure) his AAV to the acquiring team would be $11.25m.
Good luck with that, koamalu. Try that plan and respond back when Myers is still a Padre in 2020. Please tell me what teams would be dumb enough to do that.
If Wil Myers was owed 11.25 MM in arb this year he’d be a legitimate non tender candidate. I’d say almost a certainty to be non tendered. For you to project that some team will willingly give him that guaranteed for 3 years is highly optimistic at best. I’d say extremely unlikely.
Fowler on the radio said it himself he will eat money to get rid of Myers
Myers is a good player (he said so) when he’s motivated and has his annual 80 game vacation cause he got soap suds in his eyes.
Fowler said get over it
Toronto.
Myers ($20 million), Hosmer ($18 million) and a RP for Kershaw ($30 million)—straight salary swap of salaries. Our regular season losers for their post season loser. Both cities want them out, anyway.
We wouldn’t trade Kershaw for that garbage you can keep it
Logan Allen is a Cleveland Native.
No he is from Florida
Recently he’s been living in Columbus.
Stalking much
Potato much?
The 144 million they flushed down the toilet for Hosmer could have really come in use here.
SD’s owners dont care nor do they have any financial restrictions. Paying a lot for veteran free agents whos best days are behind them are what all teams should be doing, being that young stars cant make any money under the current arbitration/minor league salary systems.
If theres no restriction then theres no reason to not come out of free agency with Strasburg or Cole. Its very nice of you to feel the need for the Eric Hosmer charity fund. All below average 1B should get 8 year deals because its the nice thing to do.
No financial restrictions that’s why they spent nothing on manager lol
Really? Who would be playing 1B if not Hosmer?
Easy. Wil Myers or Josh Naylor.
Wow smoke much?
Josh Bell or Matt Olson—Myers, Hosmer and a RP going to Dodgers in a straight salary swap. Naylor can be the cherry on top for any trade proposal I’ve made.
Half of you Padres fans are getting rid of Meyers and the other half are keeping him. Which is it?
Who’s man is this?
I hate saying this because I love Pujols, but Myers would be an upgrade for the Angels at 1B both on offense and defense. .
The Angels would need to get their head checked if they took on an additional 33 million bucks for Wil Myers. Since you seem to think that’s all it will take to dump that guy. They can go sign an actual outfielder or you know A catcher, a starting pitcher or maybe even Mike Moustakas with that money.
Its not very hard to find a 1B. They have internal options.
Josh Bell or Matt Olson.
So I guess this means he’s gonna sign with the Yankees.
Thanks for revealing the mystery team to the kids.
I don’t think the yankees get the big time ace that is out there on the market, Cashman will low ball Cole & Strasburg, They will end up with Wheeler or Odorizzi.
Yup. Like they need another #2 or #3 starter.
You guys crack me up. you think every FA wants to come to the Yanks. go back to your Mark Texiera coloring book
By the time they would be able to pursue him he will already have a contract in place with the Nationals. I assume they will get it done in the next few days.
I’m sure boras and Strasburg know the padres are interested so…
lol delusional much? Stras got his ring, now he goes to where both he and his wife’s families are from and are extreme locals of, San Diego, who themselves have an interesting enough situation re: contending, plus a park that makes his numbers look even awesome than they are, this is the most obvious move of the offseason. Stras to SD. Second most obvious is Cole to the Angels, or any SoCal team.
“extreme locals” Is that like “vehemently object”?
By all means, let’s stop the negations now and Padre fans should just drink the champagne now.
“Extreme locals” must mean they were born and raised within a 100 foot radius of the stadium. And when you’re looking at being beyond filthy rich, affording a plane ticket home from an already winning and established organization isn’t too difficult.
When you’re already extremely rich you can also choose to take a little less money to go home and avoid that plane ticket. It’s clearly not a no brainer. SD will be a potential destination for Stras but they aren’t going to get some kind of ridiculous discount. That sounds a lot like what people said for Corbin last offseason.
Great post I’m with you 100 percent!
WTF is a extreme local???
Zipcode tattooed across his chest?
Dodger Stadium is only a couple of hours from San Diego. Just sayin’.
San Diego is Valhalla—Chavez Ravine is stolen property.
Angel Staduim is much closer and a way better/safer area
Yeah if he wants to join a real baseball team he will just head up the 5 to Dodgers Stadium
This “extreme local” just sold his SD home and moved his family to the DC area. He knew he was having a great season (even before awarded WS MVP), and that he could opt out this year. There’s a chance he could leave, but it’s highly likely they’ll get a deal done very soon for him to stay with the Nats. He was slated to go down next year, from $25M to $18M, so this negotiation will allow him to adjust his contract for market value when he’s at the peak of his talent.
Do you have any data to support that opinion? Has Boras ever had a coveted client play out then season and then sign with the same team days after the season?
The odds of what you are hoping for are practically zero.
Do your own homework, lazybones. How much money did you make last year as an oddsmaker? You don’t know squat.
Padres Dude – have you read your own posts?
Yes but where does he own homes?
Remember when Harper bought his new house in Vegas? He’ll never play in Philadelphia…oh wait.
A please would be nice.
Harper, i was thinking the same thing. He was going to take a discount to play in LA, SF, or SD. Then he signed a huge deal with the Phillies. San Diego, I’m sure if the price is right Stras would love to play in Petco. Let’s face it, it’s a business.
He grew up in San Diego. I’m sure he bought a house out here just the same.
Strasburg lives in San Diego in the offseason.
A LOT of big league players live in San Diego in the offseason. Florida, too. Really doesn’t mean a thing.
He sold his San Diego home recently and moved his family to the DC area. He’s all in as a Nat, folks.
Padres might get both Stras and Cole and become instant contenders. People forget how elite Tatis is because he missed half a season, but once he gets a full season under his belt, it will be more than apparent he’s a top 5 player in MLB. SD’s farm is also stacked from top to bottom, and AJ has shown he loves trades. SD could be a dark horse, and Cole seeing that might draw him to there. Plus his stats in SD would be unfair.
Keep dreaming Padres fans. They are called prospects not sure things. The Padres are a small market team. They will not spend like the Yankees,
Yankees don’t spend like the Yankees. Nats will make a serious push.
How elite Tatis was making ton of errors slow your roll on elite. Try playing full season and fielding position 1st
Tatis’s errors were lastly throwing errors trying to do too much.
Those can be limited by reigning him in a little and with experience.
Fielding errors are a lot harder to curtail.
Because hes not been throwing the ball to 1st base his entire baseball career lmao. Wait until he gets experience.
What does “reign him in” even mean?
Errors are errors stop with “they were throwing errors” great fix them play full season maybe elite
I hate to tell you this. So Ill just come out and say it. Prospects are just that Prospects. Until they come up to the show and prove themselves, they will just be prospects. I know this because..
A. I’m a Angels Fan.
We’ve heard about the Brandon Woods of the world.
“ Prospects are suspects till they turn into players or traded for players” Tommy Lasorda
Tatis’ elite talent won’t matter much if he keeps dolphin-diving for ground balls all the time. He’ll spend half his career in the IL.
I could see the Padres going after Strasburg. Cole would be too expensive.
SD has no financial restrictions.
Yeah they do. Small TV market. They never approach what the Angels and Dodgers draw in attendance. I’m thinking Fowler made this statement to get you Padre fans excited. Then when that particular FA signs they can always comeback with “we tried”. Angel and Dodgers FO’s dont tip their hands.
Preller tips his hand for his ego only: to show how “hard” he’s trying. But when it goes against common sense or what the fans want, he keeps it a big secret, like the Tingler hiring, and how few people he really interviewed.
What? No financial restrictions? Have you lost your mind? Lol
Theres very little per year price difference.
Man. These pitchers are going to make a killing this offseason. Big and small markets alike willing to spend big.
Gotta spend these billions of profits on your product!
I don’t disagree. Baseball is better for it.
Nationals are in, Padres are in. Two or three other teams will join the rumour mill. Strasburg will be close to signing and then Boras will create a “mystery team” to have a team bid against themselves, and inflate the contract a little more. I guess that’s why he opted out vs trying to renegotiate with the Nationals…Can’t create a bidding war if it’s just one team.
I predict he still resigns with the Nationals, but Boras mills every dollar out of them as possible. I guess you can’t blame them for getting what they can.
I believe Boras is not using that mystery team bs anymore. The GM ‘s talk. They know better now.
Sign Strasburg and Keuchel. Trade for Kluber.
Sign Strasburg and Keuchel. Trade for Kluber.
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The Padres? What would Keuchel bring them? His 4.72 would make him like their #7 starter. They need an ace, not yet one more #3.
I believe Stras and Kluber solve the ace issue in this scenario, pretty obvious really.
3.75 last two years and a career era of 3.67 where do you see 4.72?
I think he was pointing to his bbref flip, which is misleading anyways, as Keuchel and others on the Braves pitching staff had their stats inflated by the Braves terrible relief core early on and in mid season by them coming in and allowing inherited runners to score. Keuchel should’ve had an even lower fip xfip to go along with his era. Besides, I stopped paying as much attention to it when I saw Fried’s fip go up by nearly a full run at LA when what should’ve been charged an error to Swanson was instead charged as ER’s when Fried didn’t make it out of the first and ‘gave up’ 4er in 1 inning.
I know this is kind of off the topics we were talking about but I for one would like to see the Padres get rid of their two Tv announcers, Orsillo, Mark Grant. These two gentlemen Yep the whole game every once in a while throw in what’s happening on the field. And Orsillo Just laughs the whole time.
What’s it like being joyless
My guess……being joyless is like being a Padres fan.
Or being joyless living a life in Cleveland.
Cleveland lol. Ohio, lol.
“kind of off the topics”? Entirely off the topics. Don’t know these two but I hate announcers who think their mindless banter is more entertaining than the game itself.
We have Underwood and Manning. I often employ the mute button.
Sure…they’re gonna get rid of the number 1 rated TV announcers.
You may not like them….. but just about everyone else does.
I can probably speak for the majority of my fellow Sox fans who would all gladly take Don back.
In a heartbeat……and I like O’Brien……but Orsillo is top of the line…
Useless drabble occurs when you’re calling a sub-.500 team……….
Hmmm and here I always see Yankees & Giants first n second in polls
I love Don. But, Grant? Sometimes he tries too hard to be funny, and he seldom calls out players for stupid plays. In a way, I wish we had a guy like Hawk Harrelson doing color with Don.
I disagree. In other words, Mark Grant is the balls.
Now you’re just stupid—you need to zip it. Donnie and Mark are the best in all of baseball.
Please
You shouldn’t be calling anyone stupid with all
of your whacky trade proposals…just because they worked on the Show doesn’t mean it’s even remotely reasonable
Again, Padres guy, have you read your own posts? Don’t be too quick to call someone stupid.
I think the nationals are gonna lose both Strasburg & Rendon , Both Boras clients can’t afford them both.
Of course this has to be reported, but it should surprise no one. What would surprise me is if he signed this year.
We are going to be talking about Stasburg for the next 3 months. And he still wont be signed.
I was shocked that they declined the option on Zimmermann
He had a bad season. You were the only one.
Looking at the situation objectively, Zimm is not going to get $18m guaranteed from anyone else this offseason. If the Nats want to bring him back for less money, they should be able to do so.
And they’re going to. He is Mr. Nat and they will get a deal done.
“We are going to be talking about Stasburg for the next 3 months. And he still wont be signed.”
I know. Cole, Stras and Rendon for months. Yuck.
Cole might be different. The Angels are going to make him a great offer, maybe the highest offer, then withdraw it and move on. Cole may go to the Angels, but they are not going to wait around
If Cole doesn’t sign with the Angels in the next six weeks, Then it will be three months.
jThese are the New Padres $500 + million spent over the last 3 offseasons = #1 in baseball..
Stras to SDP.. Stras /Gore /Paddack by 2021 (Gore) .. would be pretty hard to match in 21 22 23 24 ..
According to Fangraphs prospect value say a Team thought Myers was worth it at $9 mil.. and Padres wanted such team (lets just say Orioles) to eat the entire $60 mil owed him.. well SDP could pony up A ball SP Weathers 50.. 3B Potts 45 both in the Pads Top 10 specs by the way.. and SP Nix 45 combined (again Fangraphs value) around $73 mil dollars of value vs Myers owed $60.. so Myers + the above 3 to the Orioles for their Closer (can be SDP set up man for Yates).. even Stephen trade.. and frees up $20 mil plus ( supposedly payroll will go to 140-150) so roughly 32-42mil available this off-season.. I can see something like this happening in SDP..
You are never going to get a team to take that whole contract. You are either dreaming or drunk.
Dreaming or drunk versus stupid (like you)—I’ll take dreaming and drunk.
You’re already there
“Wil Myers, owner of a hefty $22.5MM salary, is a candidate to be traded”
Just STOP.
Not too far from labeling Cratered Davis a trade candidate.
Bingo
“Cratered Davis”
I‘m 95% sure of which player your referring to, but funny enough, there was more then one ‘Big Contract/Bad Year’ Davis-es(?) this year.
Wade Davis, Chris Davis, and Khris Davis.
That being said, Chris “Cratered” Davis is probably not the best comp. for Myers….yet.
Anyone can be traded.
You don’t think if the Padres offered Wil Myers and McKenzie Gore to the orioles for Givens they would do it?
Of course they would.
So a team like the Orioles that have money and need “everything” would also say yes to a deal with Myers plus 2-3 “other” prospects….as long as those prospects are better than most they have.
McKenzie Gore is untouchable even for Thor or two years of Francisco Lindor.
Myers is like a three week old possum carcass on the side of the road. It’s going to lay there until it rots away completely.
Giants wouldn’t go near Myers what team with 1/2 a brain wants that contract
Thing to remember…Strasburg may already have it in his heart to return to SD and bring the city its first ever pro championship. Essentially the Padres would be bidding against themselves and that is a typical Boras strategy. Remember though the Pads and Boras have developed a positive relationship as they bailed him out with the Hosmer contract.
Boras develops positive relationships with teams that meet his asking price for his clients. The loyalty ends there. The Nationals signed many Boras clients but there was no loyalty when Harper left and most likely none with Strasburg
Nobody will be bidding against themselves for Stras. There will be a bidding war.
For Strasburg to return to SD “…and bring the city its first championship” he better bring 20 or so other players with him. The Padres are a long way from being serious contenders, and they’ve done themselves no favors with the Hosmer and Machado contracts.
He resigns with the Nats. You can check it off. It’s already done.
Don’t cry too hard when he signs elsewhere
Padres have 32 yrs to best Dodgers 1st WS win (took the Briderooms 83 years to win their 1st). My Padres are 50 yrs old. Padres will win a WS before the Dodgers do.
Can we get this guy banned please my head is going to explode
Jam an ice pick in your ear. It’ll relieve the pressure.
;-)
The Padres were .500 at the All Star break so they were not so far away from contending. Adding a starter like Strasburg puts them much closer than having to send a bunch of rookies out there every fifth day.
Still dumbest analogy “we were .500 at All Star break” you lost 91 games that’s what counts.
Padres have had such good luck with free agents just keep going down that road of failures
If theoretically the padres sign strasburg, then trade for someone like thor this drastically improves their chances of winning. Huge if but if they add 2 legit aces they might stand a chance of making the playoffs
Thor isn’t an ace, not close actually. He’s one of the most overrated pitchers in all of baseball.
Bingo
Why would the Mets want to trade Thor?
How do you talk about the Padres 2020 rotation and completely leave out Joey Lucchesi?
Dude was pretty dang good last year and should only get better.
Completely leaving off Lauer I guess I can understand…..but Lucchesi?
Both players’ developments kinda sorta stalled out last year
The Angels would have loved to have those two last season. We didn’t have a single starter with more than 20 starts and an ERA better than league average. Both of them did.
Huh?
Joey had a 4.22 with just about a K per ip and a 1.22 Whip.
He’s hardly done developing.
The league is full of pitchers who took 3-4 years to become great…..and all he has to do is improve a little to be a solid #3-#4.
And he had a 4.08 ERA in 2018. So he actually regressed.
ACKSHUALLY Man strikes again!
He didn’t regress
Then what did he do? He certainly wasn’t any better in 2019 than 2018.
Well I wouldn’t say he did so much better but if you look at all the numbers this year on baseball reference, he did better than the last
Are you the same guy that tried to make the case that Perdomo improved in his second year?
Straight up no. And Joey has shown signs of being an okay starting pitcher. Perdomo plain sucks
The catching situation was the reason for
the regression.
@SDHotDawg you talking to me? No I did not make that case and no Perdomo did not improve in his second year. Scrapping his four-seamer in favor of a sinker midseason in 2016 caused a noticeable jump in his performance from where it was at the start of 2016 but he hasn’t really improved at all since then.
Lucchesi’s xWOBA was .299 this year v.319 the year before. He generated GB’s at a slightly better clip. His HR/9 went down as well. His K rate did dip but it was still respecatable for a backend rotation guy.
Posting an ERA and saying a guy regressed is just lazy analysis and quite frankly useless. Particularly when the ERA went from 4.08 to 4.18. And I know you know that.
No one should be expecting a star. A sturdy #4 starter was always the ceiling.
Lucchesi was better in ERA+, WHIP, H/9, and HR/9. He improved in all those areas in a year with a juiced ball. If the Padres want to trade him, i would love to see him in the middle of the Angels rotation.
@Show me your Tatis:
Not you? OK, my bad. Yeah, Perdomo still sucks. Slightly better when he’s only pitching to a few batters in relief, but that’s it.
That assumes that there was the same amount of offense in 2018 as there was in 2019, which we know is not the case. Better off going with ERA+ than ERA. That went from 94 up to 101.
Compared to league average Lucchesi improved. His ERA+ improved from 94 to 101.
Strasburg is walking away from 4/100 which already put him at a pretty high AAV. So I would think Strasburg is looking for at least another year with a higher AAV? Does that look like 5/150? I know that looks like a lot more but its just 1 more year at an AAV increase of $5 million. Or maybe the years are more important and he is looking for 6/168 and you can keep a little of that extra AAV.
Really, this seems to me to be realistic offers Strasburg is looking for if not more. Otherwise, what’s the point of doing all this?
Whoever decides to do this, get ready to watch something around $30 million a year pay for 140 innings or worse. After all, I’m pretty sure getting older doesnt make you LESS likely to get injured and Strasburg owns a luxurious beach front condo perminantly located on the IL.
He deal was backloaded. So that plays a role as well.
Strasburg has been injuried alot in his career. Teams need to keep that in mind when setting offers for him. He’s only had less than a handful of successful healthy seasons.
I FINALLY figured out how to register! LOL. I have enjoyed reading all the comments on these stories, everyone always has good takes. Go White Sox!
As much as this makes a good headline, the chances of the Padres getting Strasburg are slim to none. The media puts way too much stock in “homecomings.” See Corbin, Patrick and the foregone conclusion he was going to the Yankees. How’d that work out? I strongly suspect Strasburg has no interest in uprooting himself. Besides, you really think Nats ownership would ever allow him and Rendon to walk? After their first WS title?
I agree that the media puts too much stock in homecomings. However, if the Padres are willing to pay Stras I see no reason why they would have any less of a chance than anyone else of signing him. The Yankees didn’t want to pay Corbin, the Nats did. Most free agents sign with the team that offers the most money, I have no reason to believe that Stras will be any different.
“Besides, you really think Nats ownership would ever allow him and Rendon to walk? After their first WS title?”
It’s not their prerogative to let or not let Rendon and Stras do anything.
” Most free agents sign with the team that offers the most money, ”
ALL free agents sign for the most money.
That’s not true. There are plenty of documented cases of a player taking a paycut to play for a team they wanted to play for (or not play for a team they didn’t want to play for). The Marlins offered Aroldis Chapman the most money when he was a free agent, for example.
Although the signing team is always at least in the same ballpark as the team that offers the most money.
“That’s not true. There are plenty of documented cases of a player taking a paycut to play for a team they wanted to play for ”
Awesome. Document those players for me.
I mentioned Aroldis Chapman. Marlins offered him more money than the Yankees.
NO
Last year Morton wanted to pitch in Florida. For example. He told many teams to not even bother. It happens.
Not true. The Panda turned down more money from Preller’s Padres to sign with the Red Sox.
Carlos Carrasco. He has signed two very team friendly deal. He wants to spend his whole career with the Cleveland Indians.
Stras is comfortable in DC settled with family will take huge offer to get him to uproot
I think that’s a huge factor. Stras is not your typical FA. With Boras, money is always a big factor, but Stras signed the team-friendly extension last time because he was comfortable in DC, and he’s even more so now. All Series long, they talked about how comfortable and confident he had become this season. Nats will definitely have the first shot, and inside track, on resigning him. Maybe 5/150 with an option year, or 6/175?
Agreed that there is too much stock placed on athletes “homecomings”!
Your info on the Yankees and Corbin isn’t quite correct as the Nat’s., did outbid the Yankees, but they did it by adding an extra year that the Yankees wouldn’t match.
SD will be just as much in the running as other teams willing to spend unless Strasburg wan’t to play for a team that contends each and every year as compared to a team that seems to be in a perpetual “rebuild” with a “terrific and deep farm system”….which we have been redundantly hearing about for years…..ROCK STAR GM……
The Yankees’ refusal to offer that extra year is a perfect example of why the Nats’ offer was better.
The Nats don’t have a say in “letting them walk.” If they want to go, they’ll go.
No they won’t go anywhere if the Nats offer the most money.
But they will if the Nats don’t offer the most money.
Don’t forget the biggest one – Trout was supposed to be a Philly.
Padres got lucky with Machado.
Machado only signed with Padres because they promised Tatis Jr would be in the MLB and not AAA
The Padres made no such promise, but they did pay Machado
more than any other team offered.
Machado said he would sign if Tatis Jr was playing in Padres uniform. There was many stories about it.
Cool. Where is your source that that and not the guaranteed $300m was the difference between him signing with the Padres and signing elsewhere?
So, a great player would sign because a “prospect” was gonna be in the line-up? That notion is contrary to all the opinions stated by the idiots on this thread. Like your observation.
Now that’s a silly thing to say. Machado signed with the Padres because they offered him the most money. Pretty simple equation.
Bingo
Get real he signed because they gave him most $ if Royals gave him. 301 mil he would of gone there
Not so sure the Padres would not want a do over on the Machado signing
I mean, if not him, who would play 3rd base for the Padres?
Omg maybe trade for 1 or draft one? It’s new thing in game because giving Manny 300 mil is not answer.
Sean Burroughs barely lasted, Vinny castilla. I think Joe Randa was one. Christian Villanueva. Phil Nevin and maybe if you want to say Chase headley. It’s hard to get a lock on someone good
Hard for Padres other than juicer what great 3B have they had in 51 years.
No, they paid enough to get him—no luck involved.
“the Friars’ interest is notable in that it represents a logical progression of the franchise rebuild, which looks to be entering its final stages.”
The Pads finished 36 games out of first. Are they really that close?
Honestly not fair to use the “36 games out of first” thing when the Dodgers were historically good during the regular season this year. Padres could easily get a wild card spot in 2020 if they sign some pitchers and a couple things break the right way.
It’s also not fair for a couple of other reasons.
1-They played about .500 for better than half the season, and only collapsed when tatis, and to a lesser degree, Renfroe went down.
2-Their entire rotation averages 24.6 years old. I would fully expect a material improvement.
3-Except for Tatis, I’d gladly make 7 separate wagers that the other 7 would improve their OPS+.
I can agree to disagree, but I have no idea what the Padre bashers are looking at.
Yeah, we were at .500. We also had a -35 run differential. What does that tell you?
Lost 92 easily win 88-90 get wild card 2020. Padre fans not smartest bunch
You are doing that too much. Try again in 10 minutes.
You must be new
Boras will use SD and give Nationals a pencil whipping.
Uh ‘whipping’ is not the right word to use in that dialogue!
I’m thinking something like 215 to 235 MIL @7 yrs with options & clauses kicking in in the 5th year. Nomatter how you look at it those fancy boys in the legal dept will have fun with this one. But anything over that $225 MIL mark, several teams have the resources for a contract like that. So now the ball would be in Strasburg’s corner. What’s most important $$ ?
I hope he signs with sd and starts a new chapter of his career. leave dc as a champ and now help another team
Reality check —
Just like last year, Preller was supposedly “interested” in every FA on the market. It became a standing joke.
Therefore, I’ll believe he’s serious about Stras when they announce the signing. (No, I haven’t forgotten about Machado).
IIRC they got in on the Machado bidding at the tail end of it.
And yes, I also tire of the headline grabbing. If you’re gonna sign the guy make it snappy.
Enough to be highest bidder great got player who hit 12 homers and 27 RBI’s 2nd 1/2 for 300 mil brilliant oh yea I know homers and RBI’s mean nothing
I just can’t follow their logic. He’s a good pitcher and maybe today is the day to get the pieces you need to build a championship team tomorrow. But there young guys aren’t quite ready and better yet, some of those young guys are gonna be elite (gonna have to pay them some day). Idk, but seems to me you have some more rebuilding to do before investing so much money in just a couple players
That’s why they are Padres can’t get head out of a..
The Padres plan to pursue everyone.
Every team will plan to pursue Strasburg. Not just the Padres