Don’t expect any major changes to the relationship between Kris Bryant and the Cubs in the wake of today’s ruling on his service-time grievance action. There’s “no ill will whatsoever” towards the team on Bryant’s part, a source tells Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times.
The decision ensures that the Cubs control Bryant for each of the next two seasons. He’s already slated to earn $18.6MM this year and will now go through the arbitration process one more time in advance of the 2021 season.
You might think there’s no cause for concern if you just focus on the single-season earnings. Bryant’s delayed promotion cost him an earlier shot at free agency but did allow him to qualify early for arbitration as a Super Two. He has parlayed that into a big run through the arb process.
But that’s reasoning misses the big picture. Not only has Bryant lost a year of free agency that he could’ve sold for the highest price — quite possibly even higher than what’ll be a big 2021 salary — but he has lost the ability to market himself one season earlier. Market timing is critical. Bryant will now enter free agency at 30 years of age, not an especially youthful point, and runs added risk of injury or performance downturn in the interim.
Still, Bryant doesn’t seem to be taking things personally. While some clubs have looked past service-time considerations to make aggressive promotions — most recently, the Padres did so with Fernando Tatis Jr. — there’s a huge incentive for teams to hold down top prospects just a bit longer than might otherwise be preferred in order to slow their eventual free agent qualification.
Certainly, Bryant and the Cubs have worked together without issue for plenty of time in-between. The grievance was reportedly pursued primarily by the player’s union, which obviously had a broader interest as well. The Bryant-Cubs relationship may be in good-enough shape, but that doesn’t mean it is is bound to continue. An extension seems unlikely and there has even been trade chatter. It’ll be interesting to see whether and when he’ll land in another uniform.
1738hotlinebling
Lies
clepto
Did you actually have time to read the article or just posted nonsense?
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
Cubs- ” Hey, so we are going to mess with your future and potential earnings by delaying your ability to reach free agency. Cool bro?”
Player- ” yeah management it’s totally ok to prevent me from hitting free agency a year earlier and signing a longer deal due to being a year young and locking in more cash”
SAID. NO. PLAYER. EVER.
Bryant is 28 and won’t reach free agency till 30. He may get a 6 year deal. Had he reached it at age 29, a year earlier, he could of gotten an 8 year deal.
iml12
Harpers 13 year contract would suggest he could still get 8 years plus a hefty pay day in 2021.
Paulie0514
I mean Bryant isn’t going to publicly say he has ill will towards Cubs.. even though he probably does.
joparx
There’s of course goin to be some thoughts of ill will regardless but before Bryant’s grievance every team was holding players down and we aren’t hearing about them, now in the wake of it teams have been proactive in bringing major league players up at the time they’ve earned it, i think Bryant has done every player after him a good service and this should certainly change in the next Union contract, however the cubs did the same thing as every team and they followed the letter of the law, major league teams as a whole missed the spirit of the law though
derosa7
You have a point, but those are the rules they play under. It’s a business and the Cubs made the right business choice. The players union agreed to these rules. It will be up for bargaining soon.
dixoncayne
Is he going to pout and cry or play baseball?
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
Bryce Harper signed a 13 year contract at age 26. Machado got a 10 year contract at 26. Team gave them those contracts hoping to get prime years at 27 28 29 30 31 32 possibly 33 and 34. Bryant will give prime years at 30 31 32 possibly 33 and 34 with 35 35 37 38 being wildcard years; teams aren’t gonna bet on 3-4 years of bad production from 1B.
Bryant will be 30 and possibly have a QO attached to him when he hits FA
Wanna try again?
dynasty in boston
Bingo
rondon
You have no way of knowing that. The only negativity has come from his blood sucking agent.
iml12
So it runs until he’s 39. How is that different than a 30 year old signing for 8? Still get 4-5 prime years with less risk. Not sure when Bryant became a first baseman either. Hypotheticals are hypotheticals. No clue who else will be entering free agency, what teams will need what and how much they are willing to spend. All the free agents this year made out like bandits, last two were slow.
Prospectnvstr
How many MILLIONS is enough? If KB signed out of high school,albeit in the 18th round in 2010, he could’ve been a free agent ALREADY. He chose to go to college. Smart financial decision. For this reason he didn’t get to redrafted until 2013. Then he was the #2 OVERALL pick and signed for $6,708,400.
Jrmomo1000
He will still get paid
MW 4567
So he’ll make 40-45M before he hits free agency and then he’ll sign for 6 years/150M.
Poor guy. He’s really getting screwed.
Maybe we should start a GoFundMe page for him?.
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
Harper signing at 26 for 13 years means the Phillies pay for 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 possibly 33 and 34. Thats 8-9 years of premium/prime production ages. 35-39 could be where the deal doesn’t pay dividends and he isnt worth his price tag. So 8 out of 13 years even 9 out of 13 years of strong production was worth it to the phillies.
Bryant meanwhile will give a team 30 31 32 possibly 33 and 34 with 35-38 being wild card years. Teams don’t want to lock in a big contract like that with a player youll get maybe 4 at best 5 years of of production before it falls apart. Its a riskier investment.
The issue isn’t $$ its the length of the contract and the age at which they sign vs how much value a team will potentially yield from the contract.
teufelshunde4
Human nature is to have ill will towards Cubs. They lied about why he was sent to minors, “” Defnse””, when what they should have done is been honest.
Thus KB will lie and say there is no ” Ill Will”, yet in his heart he knows he cannot ever trust Theo & crew to be truthful.
adkuchan
He also could have avoided all of it by signing the $200 million + extension they offered him previously.
Everyone is just looking out for what is best for themselves, which is the way it almost always goes.
iml12
Rendon just got a monster contract also going into age 30 season. Harper for all we know may of gotten 10 for 330 this year based on some of the other deals. He might be playing 3 seasons for free based on the year he made the deal. It’s all hypothetical and guessing. There is no evidence what so ever Bryant can’t get an 8 year deal. 8 years is a lot less risk than 13, a lot.
chesteraarthur
Haha, I love how you just make that up and act like it’s a fact.
pkazaka05
Didnt know kris Bryant played 1st base
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
Bryant will never be offered a 13 year deal at age 30 let alone an 8 year deal.
Ever since the Pujols and Cano, 10 year deals to players already in their 30s, teams have been wary of giving such deals to those players.
Yoenis Cespedes signed a 5 year deal at his age 30 season.
Justin Turner, close comparison to Bryant, was only able to secure a 4 year deal before his age 31 season.
Bryant’s biggest issue is he may not even stay at 3B the entire duration of the contract; a move to 1B will likely come in the next few years….which diminishes his appeal to offer a long term contract at 30.
Looking at majority of position players at 30 only Rendon stands out as an outlier and exception to recent trends of contracts. The market and Bryant potentially needing to move to 1B say he wont get 8 years at 30.
keysox
He’s an idiot
keysox
A two at most
Frail
trout27
His earning power will depend on how he performs in the next two seasons. He can receive big money in the 30+mil per year if he matches or beats what Rendon does in 20-21. He could drop down to Donaldson’s range if he repeats last season in 20-21.
He will get paid but will he be Superstar or just a good everyday player.
theoepsteinhof
Yada yada yada…He joins the club with umpteen other players who have had their service time manipulated. Wanna break down all their coulda-shoulda’s too?
TeddyBallgameYazJimEd
$150/6???..If he would settle for a 6 year deal teams would be lining up to pay him that…He would get more like $200/215M for 6..
seth3120
Yeah I’m not buying the no ill will. Even if you put aside the service time which he’s already stated didn’t sit well with him now there is the issue of being dangled in trade rumors all offseason. He’s a human being of course he’s upset on some level. He’s trying to be a professional and keep it to himself but they haven’t exactly done a lot to make him feel like he’s part of their future
Altanta Barves
Bryant’s trade value just went up.
mj-2
Not for the Braves.
They’re allergic to anything longer than 1 year.
Altanta Barves
No one is talking about the Braves.
braveshomer
you are
Fire Jon Daniels
The “source“ is Theo
scarfish
Did he dumpster dive for this information?
Ahimsa
I’d be semi happy making 18.6m playing MLB.
depressedtribefan
semi happy?! lol what amount would make you very happy?
riffraff
18.7 million
Melchez
That’s Vladimir Trump… He makes 18.6 mil while he sleeps.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Only semi happy? I’d play for 500k
kodion
The first year? I’d pay them for the chance!!!
Not much, mind you. I’m not made of money
dugmet
If he has ill-will it would be toward the MLB Players association that negotiated the terms of the CBA.
Ully
He will not resign with the Cubs!
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Obviously because for him to resign would mean he would basically retire. How do so many people get resigned and re-signed mixed up?
Vin Scully
Wrek. Blame shoddy American teachers. They are the blame. They spend more time protesting than teaching.
kodion
Vin Scully:
Stole his name.
Too bad you didn’t inherit the communication skills along with it
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
You ain’t lying
2id
I’ve discovered that people that blame teachers for the fault of society are usually the ones that ate paint chips in class and had booger stained fingers.
SanDiegoPaul
2id – Name your source.
jtvincent
oh boy. its not their fault you did not learn anything. its not their fault you want to be brainless
dnr7
Maybe not, but he’s not wrong
Ricky Adams
It’s a blog response, not a college thesis.
bronyaur
True, but a clearly demonstrated lack of literacy does not bolster the credibility of the poster’s insight.
derosa7
Grammar police!
DarkSide830
money talks
jyosuckas
I think a better example of clubs “making aggressive promotions” would have been the NY Mets promoting NL ROY Pete Alonso out of spring training and losing a year pf service time.
A much better example that Tatis Jr who didn’t receive a single 1st place vote for ROY.
Steve Adams
Tatis is four years younger than Alonso and surely would’ve received some first-place ROY votes were it not for his injury. But, to your point, both are fine examples — there needn’t really be a distinction between them. Either could’ve been held down for three week to buy an extra year of control, and neither was.
ForestCobraAL
BRAVES
Donaldson and Rendon are both gone.
N.L. Least is back.
LEAST
WhiteSoxWinner
This organization makes me LOL
chicagofan1978
I know right, compared to our team who have multiple championships and attract all the greatest free agents in the game and the millions and millions of fans that pack our beautiful ballpark in that wonderful community, they certainly do make me lol too.
Kayrall
Well done.
Paulie0514
Wonderful community.. you must be referring to that transgender attracting community in boyst… I mean, wrigleyville? Same one that attracts nothing but bandwagon no nothings? Okay.
richdanna
Bandwagon lol.
The Cubs attendance in 2013, the third of three straight 91-plus loss seasons: 32,626
The Sox attendance in 2005, the year they won the World Series: 28,924
(Blows kisses)
chicagofan1978
Hmm casual bigotry by a Sox fan, stay classy south siyeed
Alex Marko
Calling people bandwagon is bigoted?
bronyaur
Homophobia? Seriously? WTF is wrong with you?
Don’t you have a tiki torch march to attend?
chicagofan1978
So nobody sees paulie0514 talking about transgenders and boys town?
Fred Mandy
Yuppy scum coming to see a ballpark not a ballgame. Lee Elia was right.
Troy mcclure
You got something against trans gender people ?? Baseball is for everyone.. let’s chill on that hate crap
WhiteSoxWinner
Chicagofan I’ve seen your comments and all you do is complain about the White Sox. If you don’t like them, then you are free to go elsewhere. What I do know though, is you are the type of fan to jump in the bandwagon this year when this team starts to show what this team is going to be like for the next decade.
chicagofan1978
I’m not going elsewhere, it’s not that easy. I still love the Sox. Just most of the fans make me puke
fishy14
I live in Bport LoL have you seen the prices recently
ChiSoxCity
We make you puke because we defend ourselves from idiot cvbs fans. GTFOH with that. White Sox fans do not kiss ### or promote the cvbs. You are not a White Sox fan.
chicagofan1978
K.
chesteraarthur
Translation: I have no actual comeback.
chicagofan1978
Yes. Ask chitown311
ChiSoxCity
I hope you’re not making another lame attempt to suggest the cvbs attract “the greatest free agents”. That’s cubbie-koolaid fantasy land talk right there. No one is clamoring to come play for the cvbs, or any other team in the midwest region.
chicagofan1978
No dingus, I agree with you on that point. It sickens me that every friggin cubs or Sox posts turns into a who’s weenis is bigger contest. Get over it already. Let’s enjoy the next 6-7 years or so of the Sox and same with Cub fans, Jesus you all look like idiots to every other fan. I’m surprised fans of other teams don’t chime in on these stupid arguments.
ChiSoxCity
Nobody cares what you’re sick of. Who asked you anyway? You can’t stomach the discourse, go elsewhere. No big loss.
chicagofan1978
Go elsewhere yourself troll
Taximan
Guess the players that came to the South side this offseason had a fun held to their heads…..
DarkSide830
just remember, they have more World Series Titles than your team has winning seasons in the last seven years
WhiteSoxWinner
Still living in the past. How many ‘85 Bears autographs are still hanging in your basement?
WAH1447
I agree the past is the past and that doesn’t mean anything for the 2020 season. The Sox could easily be the best team in Chicago this year and all the cubs fans will be crying and making excuses. I hate the cubs now that they won their World Series I hope they don’t have a winning season till 2030
rondon
Feel better now?
bronyaur
Why are some White Sox fans so obsessed with the Cubs, and feel so inferior to them, that they are cringingly compelled to post fifth grade taunts in every Cubs thread? Do you define your own self-worth purely by trying to one-up the Cubs? That is just pathetic.
chicagofan1978
Even more why do Chicago sports fans insist on arguing over other teams? We have two baseball teams in Chicago who only see each other 3 times maybe 4 a year. And up until a few years ago they were meaningless games. It’s ok to cheer on both it really is.
chesteraarthur
They already had winning seasons after the WS, sorry
bronyaur
How many playoff appearances do the White Sox have over the past 17 years? How about the Cubs?
chicagofan1978
Not a lot for both, and that sucks for Chicago
Catuli Carl
Classic White Sox fans. The ‘Little Brother Syndrome’ will never fade apparently. Have fun with the other 5 fans at Mortgage Field this year.
ChiSoxCity
The cvbs fans are the little brothers.
Catuli Carl
Ok, little buddy.
Yankeesbetterthanyou
Sux and flub fans arguing over who is better. Lololol. You guys can’t hold a candle to my Yankees baby lol
Catuli Carl
I really pity Yankees fans actually. I don’t really think they’re true sports fans. The way I see it is everyone who’s born in the greater NYC area is a Yankee fan by birth and the ones who find enlightenment and break the mold become Mets fans. Kind of like Neo taking the Red Pill and waking up, finding himself in that sea of incubator cocoons. The irony of the Yankees is that it’s almost a poverty to be so rich and to have bought so many championships. I imagine a Yankees World Series celebration is significantly less happy than when most teams win one. The level of euphoria and joy among yankees fans for a world series win is probably the equivalent of what most other teams’ fans feel when they win a Division Series. Without knowing pain, you can’t truly appreciate pleasure.
Also, the Yankees won’t let people have beards.
jabl
The players union agreed to this provision in the last bargaining agreement and the Cubs used it to their advantage legally; blame the union, not the team.
derosa7
Amen.
Rangers29
I bet there’s no ill will between Bryant and the Rangers either…
Dbird777
I wouldn’t take things personally either if someone pays me 18 mil to play baseball.
HalosHeavenJJ
He took a shot. Probably knew it was a long shot. It didn’t go his way and he’s moving on.
DarkSide830
and like 99% of normal people he’s willing to be reasonable. shame 99% of these comment sections arent though.
yankees500
He’s being a cry baby in my opinion. He is crying about being sent to the minors for a couple weeks. Big deal. Not many players ever make it out of the minors. He’s also complaining about losing a year of service time. Is he really losing that much money though? If they called him up on opening day he would be a free agent when he is 29, instead he will be a free agent when he is 30. We just saw a 34 year old Josh Donaldson get 4-5 years for almost $100 million. Bryant can top that. How important is an extra $20 million when you can make $250 in your career. There is also absolutely nothing against what the cubs did in the rules.
csamson11
How is he being a crybaby? First off, he had a legitimate reason for the grievance, whether its a small matter to you or not. The rules at this time were not in his favor, but he and his team put in the grievance simply on the chance it’d be a landmark ruling in their favor, because they had nothing to lose but potentially 1-3 more years on a free agent contract to gain. As far as I know, he hasn’t even been commenting on the situation, and just said he has nothing against the Cubs, but he’s SUCH a crybaby. What an absolutely stupid post.
heater
“He *never* had a legitimate reason for the grievance”
Rules are rules are rules are rules…..
pt57
The rules require a team to act in good faith.
csamson11
@heater Lol.. whether it’s a rule or not at the time (will surely be addressed) doesn’t take away that it was a legitimate reason for a grievance. It was obvious the Cubs circumvented the system that was in place to keep him for 7 years. Just because something hasn’t been addressed, in this case in their collective bargaining agreement, doesn’t mean he wasn’t wronged. By current *rule* he wasn’t, which is why he was ruled against, but anyone with a brain should be able to understand the difference. Of course if you could read, my next sentence literally says it wasn’t in Bryant’s favor because it wasn’t a rule, but since it’s clear you can’t, I understand why you wasted your time responding.
Yankeesbetterthanyou
hes A crybaby Chicagoan. Theee Yankees win. 2020 champions
adkuchan
This grievance was filed by because the MLBPA wanted it filed. Bryant never seemed that interested in it.
mistry gm
Bullcrap!
caldo19
Maybe the trade clock has started.
If it has, then he’ll be in a new uniform by Valentines Day
I’d hold on to him.
His trade value might still be high at the trade deadline, but the Cubs may have a shot at the playoffs and the dude can rake
mike156
Someone had to test the system, and Bryant had as good a case as anyone might have had. Now we know, with absolute certainty, that service-time manipulation is perfectly acceptable under the current CBA, it’s time to look outwards towards the next negotiation and look for a fairer outcome. A few possibilities: Credit for a full year of service, regardless of the date they are brought up, if it’s a qualifying season for either a batter or pitcher. For relief pitchers, maybe it’s 50 appearances or 60 IP. Or, free agency, to be elected by the player, regardless of service time, no later than his year 30 season. Or, the current system, with those two reforms, except that in the event that the player elects either “earlier” free agency, the team gets to make an offer equal to either the greater of the QO or 125% of his last arbitration award. The player can either accept the offer, or elect free agency, and in that event, the team gets an additional draft pick (no penalty to the signing team).
jorge78
Yes mike156. It is time for new ideas!
Bravescj10
He should have signed in 2010 with the blue jays instead of deferring and signing in 2013 with the cubs. He could blame himself.
jorge78
But that would have meant a smaller bonus! Boo Hoo!
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
lol he was an 18th round draft pick back in 2010…….whether he signed then or signed now he would have been treated the same by either franchise.
Blue Jays did it with Guerrero, Biggio, and gonna do it wit bichette.
Bravescj10
But he would be 26 entering free agency
its_happening
Knowing the Blue Jays back then Bryant would’ve been held back there too. He made the right decision not signing with a franchise struggling to develop players at that particular time.
Bravescj10
Didn’t the blue jays bring up all their prospects really young.
bobtillman
The ONLY way to prevent these machinations in the future is to take “service time” out of the loop entirely, and have Free Agency be a function of signing date. Obviously, college draftees, high school draftees and international signings would have different standards, but teams should be “charged” the amount of time a player is in the organization, irrespective at what level he was at.
It’s a system that actually works in other areas, i.e. 40-man protection parameters, minor league free agency, etc. No reason it shouldn’t be adopted across all landscapes.
DarkSide830
they should just make a player’s first season up only count for .99 of a year wire to wire and make players hit free agency a year quicker. essentially eliminates the loophole while not changing the general framework of free agency.
DarkSide830
“but he has to be traded”
swanhenge
Why is MLB.com not running any coverage of this decision?
cubbybluethruandthru
Such a stupid argument, go to court sometime with a signed contract by both parties and see where that gets you!!! Dumb, 2 words JUDGE JUDY!!
bjupton100
A contract with any ambiguity goes against the writer of it which is always MLB. I’m fine with them screwing over players as long as we quit letting them not pay taxes. Think about it how do these billionaires not pay taxes on the ten billion a year they bring in?
bradthebluefish
Hard to picture “no ill feelings” when the Cubs constantly talk about trading him and asking more of him.
brucenewton
Bryant’s a good guy. This was all Boras. He’ll make more than his great grandkids could spend. Times are tough but he’ll be alright.
mistry gm
Bullcrap! Trade him immediately. I’m certainly not the only Cubs fan that DOES have hard feelings. Seems to me that he can’t wait to get out of Chicago and it must be difficult to get by on only $357k per WEEK.
Go away Kris!
ABCD
The next error Kris makes is for you, old man.
weezer17
What exactly did Kris do wrong? Absolutely nothing. Your hatred for him is unfounded. You must be a sox fan.
mistry gm
Nope. Been a cubs fan for 70 years.
fishy14
lol that’s y he hires him as his agent you moron to fight for every dollar
Rallyshirt
If he did show some ill will wouldn’t he then be worth more?
davemlaw
Another option Bryant had was to sign a major league contract before the start of the 2015 season for a 6 year deal and not give up any of his free agent years.
This would have given the Cubs a deal on Bryants future salaries AND allowed Bryant to enter free agency in 2021.
I think more and more players will do this as entering free agency a year younger can make a huge difference in earning power. In hind sight that would have cost Bryant money but there’s no way to have foreseen his ROY or MVP awards, further enhancing his arbitration earnings.
Something that hasn’t been mentioned, Bryant’s numbers the past 2 years are down from his first 3 seasons. His WAR #s, starting in 2015, are as follows: 6.1, 7.4, 6.1, 1.9, 3.6. As it stands now, he will enter free agency in 2022 at 30 years old; his diminishing numbers mean less earning power. This means he’s going to have to produce the next 2 years in order for him and Boras to get the big contract he’s hoping for. That’s good news for the Cubs (they should get a highly motivated player OR get valuable prospects in a trade).
fljay73
Bryant needs to go thru the arbitration process (decline to talk about a extension) & then that will force the Cubs to trade him at next year’s trade deadline or give him the QO at the end of next offseason (unless the Cubs offer up at least a 6yr $210mil deal). Cubs followed the rules in place to their advantage & so should Bryant.
mistry gm
Just Trade him.
Aaron Sapoznik
Most franchises including the Cubs continue to take advantage of the agreement made with the MLBPA regarding MLB service time rules from the last CBA. Some of these same clubs, the Cubs included also have a poor track record of securing contract extensions with their best young talent as they enter their arbitration years and near free agency.
Some teams like the Padres will promote their best young talent earlier and not concern themselves with service time issues.
Then there are a select few organizations like the White Sox who will dangle the carrot of a contract extension to their best prospects before their MLB debuts in order to guarantee cost certainty, bypass the headache of arbitration while also buying out a year or two of future free agency with the attachment of additional team options.
As a long time die hard fan of both Chicago baseball teams I definitely prefer the White Sox method of locking up top young talent to that of the Cubs.
mike127
Aaron, help me out because I trust your input and opinion. You say you prefer the Sox method. What’s the difference? The Cubs won a World Series, in part, to locking up young talent in Anthony Rizzo and Starlin Castro. Rizzo for obvious reasons, Castro as he was at least affordable enough to trade at the right time.
The Sox have now signed similar contracts for Anderson, Jimenez and Robert (although they are already $100+M into Robert).
In the past five months, sure the Sox have been able to lock up players. On the other hand, Bryant, Schwarber, Baez, etc have all won rings——why not make the millions in arbitration (heck Schwarber is over 8 mil) and go for the gold when it is only a couple of years away??
It’s likely that the deals the Sox have on the books will help them become consistent contenders. However, that path has already worked for the Cubs. Let’s not make like the Cubs didn’t do it.
Aaron Sapoznik
The White Sox have just recently signed two elite prospects to MLB contracts before they made their MLB debuts. They also used that carrot as leverage in order to get them on their opening day roster. Had Eloy Jimenez declined the White Sox offer on the eve of opening day last season the front office almost certainly would have begun the MLB service time game with him. I suspect the same would have occurred with Luis Robert as well before he inked his extension earlier this month.
This is a relatively new strategy that the White Sox have embraced with only a couple of other teams like the Phillies and Mariners duplicating. I believe the Astros were the first team to do something like this back in 2014 with Jon Singleton. That experiment didn’t work out well for Houston. No other team repeated that approach until the Phillies signed 3B prospect Scott Kingery just prior to the beginning of the 2018 season. The Cubs haven’t come close to implementing this method.
It’s true that the Cubs have worked out contract extensions with some of their elite young players after their MLB debuts but not nearly to the extent in which the White Sox have. You gave two Cubs examples with Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo. Both were secured early on in the Theo Epstein regime. Castro was a player developed during the previous Jim Hendry administration and was extended by Theo back in 2012, 10 months after he took over the Cubs reigns. Rizzo was a player that Theo and his underlings were already familiar with as a prospect in Boston and San Diego before they re-acquired him from the Padres just prior to the 2012 season. Rizzo was extended to his team friendly Cubs contract in May of 2013. Since then, the same front office has drafted and signed the core of their current team with only Kyle Hendricks receiving a contract extension to this point in time.
Meanwhile, the current White Sox front office has been dishing out team friendly deals to the majority of their elite young talent. Those names included Chris Sale, Jose Quintana and Adam Eaton who were later traded for a boatload of prospects who have become the foundation of their current core since they began their long overdue rebuild back in December of 2016. Since then, the White Sox have also managed to lock up SS Tim Anderson, LF Jimenez and CF Robert. History suggests that methodology will continue with the likes of 3B Yoan Moncada, 2B Nick Madrigal and 1B Andrew Vaughn. All these latest signings have been with positional players aside from the low value extension given to former reliever Nate Jones who was the victim of too many injury issues before the White Sox finally traded him to the Rangers at last summers July 31st deadline. It remains to be seen if the White Sox will be successful or even engage their current stable of young pitching arms with contract extensions like they did previously with Sale, “Q” and Jones.
Aaron Sapoznik
Btw-It should be noted that the Cubs did also extend David Bote to a 5 yrs/$15MM contract extension last April. Few Cubs fans are ready to call Bote a significant asset going forward. Some even questioned the wisdom of such a deal to a player who has never been a regular starter although it will hardly be a back breaker considering the terms. If Bote can secure the open 2B job or have an opportunity for regular duty at 3B in the wake of a potential Kris Bryant trade this spring he may have a chance to blossom as a regular contributor and potentially make his new deal a truly team friendly one.
warren r.
I don’t have any empathy whatsoever for the “oh no, he’ll be in his 30s before hitting free agency!” angle. The guy was drafted in 2010 by the Blue Jays but decided to pass in favor of going to college.
Bryant likely would’ve been in the majors at least two years earlier, given how much he raked while playing for the University of San Diego. He’d be significantly richer today, and with more years of sky-high earning potential.
But hey…. he got that college degree, right? Need one of those to get a job in today’s market…….
the guru
UNBELIEVABLE. Can’t believe he lost this case. Bunch of crooks. Sad what the MLB has become and how they treat players.
leprechaun
Hey dude what possible reason did you have for deleting my comment. No vulgarity no personal attacks. Please explain
leprechaun
I’m waiting
chicagofan1978
Arenado for Bryant straight up.
ChiSoxCity
That’s a dumb trade for the Rockies.
iml12
Less money, same production, no trade clause and get out of a monster contract with an employee that was publicly upset with management. It makes incredible sense for the Rockies that want to sell to their fans they are still trying to compete. Cubs get a great third baseman locked down for long term which they tried to do with Bryant a couple years ago. Not sure it will happen but makes sense for both sides.
dbec72
Fishy when this finally got resolved after allbthe best free agents are gone. If ya think ownership and fans aren’t mad you’re crazy.
adkuchan
Cubs are trying to shed payroll. They were never going to go after any big names in FA. If they really want to trade him there are still teams willing to deal.
Mikel Grady
Arenado straight up for Bryant rumors are heating Up
ABCD
Won’t help the Cubs get under the CBT line. The AAV on Arenado is $14 million more than Bryant.
chicagofan1978
Gotta trade a pitcher too
ChiSoxCity
Why would any GM trade Arenado for a two year rental? They could easily get a package of prospects and big league players for him if they wanted to.
chicagofan1978
Arenado could be a 2 year rental too, he has an opt out
chesteraarthur
Are you just ignoring the contract that Arenado is signed too when you make that ridiculous claim?
ChiSoxCity
A package of controllable players in exchange for Arenado is the best route to contention for the Rockies. Moving him for another 3B who’s leaving in two years doesn’t help them contend.
scarfish
Fan of whatever team you are-Kinda sad to see the cubs buzz winding down.
WAH1447
Bryant is going West once he hits free agency. I’m sure he is just waiting to sign with someone like the angels or some team like that. I highly doubt he will stay in Chicago or go east of Chicago. He just can’t wait to cash in on that 6 year 200 million plus contract he will sign after the 2021 season. Somebody will pay him and with Pujols coming off the books that year my bet is he goes to the angels. They will need a first basemen and he will gladly make the transition to head back out west
Psychguy
Glad to know someone making millions of dollars playing a kid’s game harbors no ill will.
slider32
Every MLB team makes over 220 million a year, hardly a kids game. I say, pay the players over the owners. Much of the revenue comes from TV not gate reciepts.
Fred K. Burke
Happy to proclaim Kris Bryant has no ill will towards the Cubs. Everything is just fine. All is good. Now the Cubs win the 2020 World Series.
DFAed in Gaffa
Still better to be Kris Bryant than Kobe Bryant.
madmanTX
He’s gonna go out and bunt at every at bat. Better trade him, cubbies
bryzzo_2016
It’s just good business by Theo and the Cubs. If anything, his issue would be w/ the union and the current CBA. He still won the ROY, the Cubs still advanced to the NLCS thar year. I believe he has no issue w/ the Cubs. It’s been made clear that his agent (Boras… shocker) was spearheading this grievance which is understandable, he’s just doing his job looking out for his client just like Theo/Jed did their job by making a strong, intelligent move from business sense and a competitive sense. Odds are, either way, he was gonna hit FA. Boras clients, especially his superstar clients RARELY sign extensions before their first shot at free agency.
jtvincent
How is the guy going to eat now? oh wow so sorry for this poor poor millionaire
bigbadjohnny
Cubs can hold onto Bryant…..no rush to trade him……or Contreras…..
but Quintana Cubs days are numbered !
bigbadjohnny
Cubs 2020 Opening Day lineup….
Bryant
Hoerner
Baez
Rizzo
Contreras
Schwarber
Heyward
Happ
(Pitcher)
chicagofan1978
Still 3rd place, and who gets the opening day start? Will Ross throw his old buddy a bone?
just my opinion
David price would pitch well in the national league Bryant has Boston connections….hmmm
bigbadjohnny
Bryant for Price ……keep on dreaming……that is not happening.
SalaryCapMyth
David Price would pitch well in the National league? The way Archer has? The way Quintana has?
I will give you credit and assume you arent saying a Price-Bryant 1/1 deal is your suggestion but the Sox are set at 3B.
PhilsPhanInFla
Now let’s see which teams are really interested in trading for Bryant since they just gained that year of service.
SalaryCapMyth
I don’t think you can make an accurate judgement now though. The 3B market is pretty much wrapped up.
SalaryCapMyth
Now THIS is something Cubs fans and the front office should be a little ticked about and not all this stupid Ricketts hate because he is implementing a spending freeze only AFTER giving his team a top 3 payroll.
Several teams had a big need at 3B. The Nationals, Braves and Twins all could have been potential trade partners. The Braves and Nationals could still trade for Bryant but it seems like they have moved on.
The long delay hurt the markets depth and the return the Cubs could have gotten for Bryant. Sure, the Rangers are out there but had it been before the Braves set a franchise payroll record, before the Nationals acquired TWO different players that can play 3B and before the Twins gave a risky contract to Donaldson there might have been 4 different teams pushing Bryants market.
moody
Bryant knows he must keep his comments civil, if he wants out of Chicago. No need to blow up like Arenado and put the kibosh on Cubbie leverage.
Le Grande Orangerie
LOL!!! Now that Bryant has stamped himself ‘toxic’ for all 30 major league teams, his agent thinks it a good idea to claim Kris is a reasonable and good guy after all
hiflew
OMG, now instead of getting $300 million, he will have to settle for only $270 million. Quick, someone get a GoFundMe started for his family right now. How can one man live with only being able to afford an island in the Caribbean instead of the South Pacific?