The Mets are suddenly dealing with a few notable injuries in their infield, Deesha Thosar of the New York Daily News was among those to report. Second baseman Robinson Cano (left groin), shortstop Amed Rosario (left quad) and third baseman Jeff McNeil (lower back) are all battling some degree of “tightness,” per Thosar.
The severity of these injuries are unclear, but they’re the latest hits to an offense that saw outfielder Yoenis Cespedes opt out of the season Sunday. Cespedes got off to a subpar start this season, as has Rosario. On the other hand, Cano and McNeil have been great thus far. It’s especially encouraging in regards to Cano, who was a letdown a season ago, but not surprising in McNeil’s case. After all, he was one of the NL’s best position players last year.
The Mets entered the day at 3-7, so any further bad news for their lineup could make it even harder for the team to dig out of the hole it’s in at the one-sixth mark of the season. The Mets replaced their three lost starters with Brian Dozier, Andres Gimenez and Luis Guillorme on Monday.
Yes 1 hr 4 RBI is “great”
.375/.417/.531 is great. The 4 RBI is because Cespedes, and Ramos were never on base in scoring position ahead of him.
1988 wants its RBI stat back
RBIs are important, though.
But they really aren’t.
Why? You saw what Marc said. He only has just 4 RBI’s because Cespedes and Ramos rarely got on base in front of Cano. 36% of Cano’s plate appearances with men on compared to JD Davis with 50% of his coming with men on, and Dom Smith who also has 50% of his plate appearances with men on.
More chances=more RBI’s
Don’t let them lie. Rbi is still very important.
How so? Don’t say “Well runs win ball games”. Scoring runs wins ball games, but you score runs by hitting well with men on base and with RISP. Last year, Harper had a .331 BA with men on base and LeMahieu had a .379 BA with men on base, but they both had really similar RBI totals because Harp had 58 more plate appearances with men on than LeMahieu did. Kurt Suzuki hit .338/.395/.647 with men on. That’s a better BA and SLG than JD Martinez, Anthony Rizzo and Bryant with men on. But those three had way more RBI’s than Suzuki. Just because they had more RBI’s doesn’t mean that Suzuki was bad when it came time to drive in runs.
All leadoff men aren’t going to get a lot of RBI opportunities, but does that mean all lead off men are bad when it comes to hitting with RISP or with men on?
“More chances=more RBI’s”
Sure, with everything else being equal. But everything else is not equal, so it’s not even close to that simple.
Of course it’s not as simple as that, and I probably shouldn’t have phrased it that way, as there are way more factors like how good you are with RISP/men on, but my point is that the amount of chances you have can severly impact the amount of RBI’s you have regardless of how good you are. Just look at the example I gave with Harper and LeMahieu. LeMahieu only had 2 more RBI’s because Harper had nearly 60 more chances than LeMahieu, but they had a notable difference in BA with men on.
Hunter Pence and Nelson Cruz had really similar numbers with men on last year too. George Springer was better with men on than Freddie Freeman but probably the biggest reason he had less RBI’s is because Freeman 92 more plate appearances with men on base.
They are important since you need them to win, but that doesn’t mean they are indicative of anything. A player cannot control how many RBI opportunities he has, and luck/teammates is a major factor.
Are you thinking pitchers, pitch the same to Suzuki who is not a everyday player, as they will to JD, Rizzo, etc. And everyday players don’t get the rest of a part time play. Also it’s when/score that makes THE RBI important. If a player drives in 5 when his team is up by 3 or more then that means less than a RBI when you are down. If anyone has ever pitched in college, or in a very competitive league then you’ll know. You don’t pitch to every hitter the same mentally
A player’s splits are still way more important than RBI’s are. RBI’s are not important as a stat. to evaluate a player. But like you said, they pitch to different players differently. However, the splits, like batting line with RISP, high leverage situations and when the game is late and close are very important, hundredes of times more important than RBI’s.
Like you said pitchers probably pitch differently to Kurt Suzuki than someone like Rizzo, and JDM, and RBI’s, unlike BA with RISP/late and close/high leverage, don’t reflect how good a player was when it mattered. Last year, Luis Arraez had a .556/.613/.703 line in high leverage situations. yet he only had 28 RBI’s, and more importantly, he didn’t strikeout in high leverage situations.
Hitters have no control over WHEN they get a hit or drive in runs, this old school nonsense was debunked more than 20 years ago. Getting a hit in a close game as opposed to in a blowout is not a skill!! Basically I agree with Reflect, who stated it very well.
You’re right, it’s just as good to NOT drive in runs.
You can be good at driving in runs and not have many RBI’s, and RBI’s don’t tell you that. Most leadoff hitters don’t get a chance for multiple RBI’s, but that doesn’t mean tehy aren’t good when it comes to driving in runs. Just look at Mike Trout’s 2012 season. He hit .324/.393/.559 with RISP, and .312/.359/.558 in high leverage situations but only had 83 RBI’s because he led off and only had 214 chances for multiple RBI’s.
The hitter doesn’t control who is or isn’t on base when they come up. Their skill set doesn’t change according to score, etc. This is basic logic. RBIs are simply not a good stat for judging individual talent. Fans can debate the matter but scouts, front offices, etc, figured this out a generation or two ago.
This is such a Mets headline
He complains about Cano in two consecutive sentences lol this whole article is so Mets
Did you know that he was a letdown a season ago? I think I read that somewhere (a couple times).
It’s a good thing they didn’t give up much for him.
And he doesn’t cost much in salary
What a disastrous game for the Mets and Braves. Key injuries on both sides.
Gigorilla16 mins ago
MLBTR — this is the biggest news all day ,,,–CARDINALS — please stop with the minor injury and “this team selects some DFA slug from a loser list of losers” as a headline.
Really, the minor league and insignificant moves by the MLB teams are not of interest.
U mad bro
Somebody teach Gigorilla how to scroll down. Unless the Cardinals players want to start self identifying and waiving their HIPAA righra to privacy, the story six hours ago a few stories below give you all the details you will get.
SCROLL PASS THE ARTICLE!!!!!
It is that simple and easy to do, try it out some time. There is a lot of fans on here that are interested in that stuff including myself. Grow up!
We are covering all stories the same way we always have. It’s a blog format, so newer items go to the top of the page.
learn how to use the internet before you embarrass yourself further, man
Double your fun!
If they each hit the IL put Dozier at 2B, Giménez at SS, Davis at 3B and DH Cano