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Mike Clevinger Violates Coronavirus Protocols

By Connor Byrne | August 10, 2020 at 6:36pm CDT

Indians right-hander Mike Clevinger has violated their coronavirus protocols, the team announced (via Ryan Lewis of Ohio.com). Clevinger was scheduled to start for the Indians against the Cubs on Tuesday, but they’ll go with fellow righty Adam Plutko instead.

Clevinger’s violations came on the road against the White Sox over the weekend, as did fellow starter Zach Plesac’s. It turns out that the two were out on the town in Chicago together, and then Clevinger took a flight with the Indians, Jeff Passan of ESPN tweets. The Indians ended up dismissing Plesac from the team on a temporary basis. Clevinger, for his part, must quarantine for 72 hours and test negative for the coronavirus before he’s eligible to rejoin the club.

The main hope is that neither of these players’ decisions will negatively affect others, including their teammates. On the field, the two have been rather effective parts of the Indians’ rotation. Clevinger has generally offered the Indians front-line results since 2017.

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  1. bxcrunner

    8 months ago

    Come on guys.

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    • burrows_ ghost

      8 months ago

      He feels just like most of Americans

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      • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

        8 months ago

        “Most of Americans” have better English skills than you do man.

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        • gdbyers

          8 months ago

          Really had to pull that out. What he said is true whether ya can type with perfect grammar or not

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        • JD396

          8 months ago

          Jesus, this thread went down the tubes fast

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        • baseballpun

          8 months ago

          Actually about 70% of Americans are “very” or “somewhat” worried about Covid, as opposed to only 29% are not at all or “not very” worried.

          *https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/coronavirus-polls/*

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        • MWeller77

          8 months ago

          I got the impression that the OP meant that we are all dealing with quarantine fatigue. It doesn’t mean that it’s ok to act recklessly, of course, but I think it’s a legit observation.

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        • sufferfortribe

          8 months ago

          Polls are like what I flushed down the toilet earlier today.

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        • terrymesmer

          8 months ago

          Many Americans have poor English skills. But they speak racist quite well.

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        • Fred McGriff

          8 months ago

          “Jesus” had nothing to do with the thread.

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        • tribepride17

          8 months ago

          So you’re saying that racism is unique to the United States? Wow, you’re a moron.

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        • badco44

          8 months ago

          Yeah and a lot have the word racist blown way out of proportion!

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        • VegasSDfan

          8 months ago

          And 15% are undecided, or still have not heard of C19 yet.

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        • wild bill tetley

          8 months ago

          Terry with an attempt to be eloquent. Terry is not a deep thinker in baseball or life.

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        • cubsnomore

          8 months ago

          In other words, 29% are selfish and only care about themselves.

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        • BloodySox

          8 months ago

          I don’t remember voting

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        • gotigers68

          8 months ago

          If you don’t agree with me, you are racist….

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        • dixoncayne

          8 months ago

          Most Americans can’t bring down a sport by going out for a beer

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      • Slipknot37

        8 months ago

        Doesnt matter what most people think. Rules are rules. If a player breaks a rule, he should expect something like this

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      • coolhandneil

        8 months ago

        Dumb and selfish. Truth.

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        • brushback

          8 months ago

          100%!

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      • pinterman

        8 months ago

        Most Americans don’t lead the kind of privileged lives this guy does. Obviously, throwing a baseball doesn’t make you smart. He should be banned for the ‘season.’

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  2. WiffleBall

    8 months ago

    Wiffle ball.

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    • sufferfortribe

      8 months ago

      Deja vu.

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      • Gwynning

        8 months ago

        …all over again!

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        • Sheep8

          8 months ago

          Well played Yogi

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        • paddyo875

          8 months ago

          No one goes there anymore, it’s too crowded!

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        • paddyo875

          8 months ago

          Pardon * nowadays*

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  3. sherlock_

    8 months ago

    Smh at the Indians

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  4. taito2000

    8 months ago

    This is really strange, considering that it just happened…

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    • sufferfortribe

      8 months ago

      Is it a timing thing?

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      • SashaBanksFan

        8 months ago

        Does anyone know why they were treated differently? One was dismissed temporarily while the other quarantines? Shouldn’t they receive the same discipline or are the Indians more upset with Plesac than Clevinger?

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        • Col_chestbridge

          8 months ago

          There hasn’t been any media asking the front office/coaches these questions yet. We will likely get answers prior to tomorrow’s game. It seems that the Indians did not know Clev was out with Plesac and only found out later (possibly through Passan or TMZ breaking that story). They literally had a team meeting where Clev was there defending Plesac to the others. And then gets on the jet with the team while Plesac had to drive home. Seems likely they didn’t know he was out with Plesac.

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        • mharr

          8 months ago

          If that is true (Clevinger flew home with the team), this can get bad quickly, like Cardinals bad. MLB would likely postpone any Indians games until ALL players and staff are tested and cleared.

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        • hittingnull

          8 months ago

          One’s a top starter while the is barely getting his feet wet. Of course, Indians are going to treat the top starter with gloves on.

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        • realsox

          8 months ago

          And if he was with the team in it’s Sunday game against the Sox, then things can go wrong for Chicago pretty quickly, too. And if so, the Sox are in Detroit tonight, so the Tigers might be affected. Thanks, Steve.

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        • hockeyjohn

          8 months ago

          The Indians found about Plesac first and reacted accordingly. They did not find out that Clevinger was with him until today then they again reacted accordingly. That is why it happened as it did. The Indians will meet with the media on Tuesday afternoon according to reports.

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        • realsox

          8 months ago

          *Mike?

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        • SashaBanksFan

          8 months ago

          Thank you Col. i appreciate the info

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        • SashaBanksFan

          8 months ago

          Thank you as well hockey john

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        • Col_chestbridge

          8 months ago

          Hitting null, Clevinger has been their worst starter this year, and Plesac closer to their second best.

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        • VampWeekAtBern

          8 months ago

          found out* about Plesac. You’re going to have to use propper grammer if were going to take you seriously.

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        • AtlSoxFan

          8 months ago

          According to an Athletic article, clevinger spoke and defended plesac in the team meeting where it was discovered plesac broke protocol. Then, clevinger got on plane and flew with the team.

          If true, that makes clevinger’s behavior substantially worse than that of plesac.

          You would think there should be an elevated punishment…

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        • hockeyjohn

          8 months ago

          Ok, Vamp, you should use proper spelling., grammar not grammer.

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        • gdjohnson

          8 months ago

          @atlsoxfan You are absolutely right.. Sounds like he should be suspended for the rest of the season. He intentionally put his team at risk, letting Plesac take the fall..

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  5. Technically correct

    8 months ago

    Their own, or MLB’s? seems like there are two different sets of rules in play. Would like clarification.

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  6. taito2000

    8 months ago

    This is really strange, considering that the same thing just happened with a different player

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    • joeyvottoforpresident

      8 months ago

      They were together

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      • joeyvottoforpresident

        8 months ago

        I think

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        • VampWeekAtBern

          8 months ago

          The Constitution states that only those who are born in the U.S are eligible for presidency. Votto was born in Canada, making him non-eligible. However Obama was born in Hawaii, which became a state in 1959, thus making him a a spy for the Hawaiians that are trying to take us over. Nice try with your propaganda, but I would start with a true American like Tom Cruise.

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  7. DarkSide830

    8 months ago

    classic Indians cant get out of their own way

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    • hockeyjohn

      8 months ago

      Yes, they are immediately separating the players into Quarantine. Did the Marlins do that? Did the Cardinals do that? The Indians are a well respected organization around the league. You may not respect the frugal owner, but the front office is top notch.

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      • DarkSide830

        8 months ago

        well respected for being cheap. i rest my case.

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        • WiffleBall

          8 months ago

          STF University, darkside.

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        • hockeyjohn

          8 months ago

          Darkside, Do you know how to read? In my comment I commented that you may not respect the frugal owner. I can guarantee you that the Indian Organization is very well thought of around the league. I rest my case, because that is a fact.

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        • JDGoat

          8 months ago

          It’s not though

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      • WillieWildkat

        8 months ago

        Yeah well respected. They were pounding an object to get a rally going before it was even fashionable.

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        • VampWeekAtBern

          8 months ago

          So … they were ahead of the game?

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    • MWeller77

      8 months ago

      If you mean the players, yes. If you mean the FO, I don’t think the criticism is warranted. An ounce is prevention is worth a ton of cure in this context

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      • DarkSide830

        8 months ago

        one day their cheapness is their downfall, the next the guys are playing well but something like this happens.

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  8. sadosfan

    8 months ago

    You mean the first one to be caught.

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  9. throwinched10

    8 months ago

    He and Plesac probably went out together.

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    • DTD_ATL

      8 months ago

      That’s literally what the article said

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      • chicagofan1978

        8 months ago

        I don’t think it originally said this FYI

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          It didnt. You are correct.

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      • bobtillman

        8 months ago

        Not that theres aything wrong with that….they both wear such tight pants..

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  10. chitown311

    8 months ago

    He was out with Plesac Saturday night after the game. 2 other individuals were with them but unknown as of now if the were teammates

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  11. racosun

    8 months ago

    Send ‘em home!

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  12. chicagofan1978

    8 months ago

    Oh come on guys, stay in your hotels it’s not that hard I’ve been doing it for 5 months in a freaking hospital bed

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  13. 30 Parks

    8 months ago

    Cleveland must’ve hired Wyatt Earp as protocol compliance officer. The standard has been set.

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  14. lefty07

    8 months ago

    He hanging out with Pleasac?

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  15. Phillies2008WFC

    8 months ago

    Is Terry Francona still out?? He has a “reputation” of allowing fried chicken and drinking in the Red Sox clubhouse, but that was probably bs anyway. Tito would have them in line, I think….

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    • racosun

      8 months ago

      Ah yes, fried chicken: the root of all evil.

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      • nymetsking

        8 months ago

        This explains so much in my life.

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  16. Halo11Fan

    8 months ago

    These players are stupid children.

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    • toooldtocare

      8 months ago

      Halo…..

      You’re being too kind. They are acting like entitled jerks. Only thing that speaks to them is $$.

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      • gbs42

        8 months ago

        You don’t have to have money to be an entitled jerk. But it does help.

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      • VampWeekAtBern

        8 months ago

        If we want to talk about entitled jerks, we should be pointing the finger at entitled ownership. To be fair my point is valid only if we’re basing this off greed. I guess it’s easier to blame millionaires instead of billionaires though.

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    • baseballpun

      8 months ago

      They need to act more like the wise older people, such as [file not found].

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  17. Wolf Chan

    8 months ago

    man, they are going to bring shame to the name of the team.

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    • gbs42

      8 months ago

      I see what you did there.

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      • VampWeekAtBern

        8 months ago

        Come on. Don’t act like a disease has ever had an effect on people in this nation before.

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  18. JDGoat

    8 months ago

    Nobody has ever accused Clevinger of being the smartest guy in the room. Hardly surprising that he’s one of the selfish guys who puts himself before his team.

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  19. Yank4Life

    8 months ago

    What did he do? Try to get a haircut at the barbershop? smh

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    • throwinched10

      8 months ago

      He strikes me as someone who goes to a “Stylist.”

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  20. Balmore Martinez

    8 months ago

    What if was for that recent video he did with Jomboy Media, Fuzzy, and Trevor Bauer?

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    • throwinched10

      8 months ago

      Oooo good catch. Perhaps!

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    • mlb1225

      8 months ago

      That is true. They could also be at risk if this happened before that video.

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    • 2012orioles

      8 months ago

      They filmed that months ago actually. But good thought. I was just thinking about that video and how clev was talking about stepping up in being a leader since Kluber is gone. He’ll learn hopefully

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  21. Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

    8 months ago

    You’d think they’d provide services or spots for players to go and relax instead of locking them away in a hotel room like Rapunzel and wondering why won’t guys in the prime of their life sit around a hotel room all night doing nothing but watching paint dry.

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    • Cey Hey

      8 months ago

      There is plenty for them to do. Read a book! What stage of life they are in has nothing to do with it.

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      • Steve Nebraska

        8 months ago

        Read a book… you are so far removed form the life of a professional athlete

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      • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

        8 months ago

        Their stage of life has everything to do with it. 20-29 year olds want to go out and be social, for the most part. Some exceptions exist.

        Just because you were never invited to parties and had no friends to go to bars with doesn’t mean everyone else was sitting around Friday and Saturday night doing nothing like you were.

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        • Commonsenseslapsyou

          8 months ago

          The literal reason America is the one first world country still with thousands of people dying every day

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        • BluffNuttz

          8 months ago

          We just cannot get the numbers up high enough, huh? Still so many millions of excess humans.

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    • Cmurphy

      8 months ago

      I’ll watch paint dry in a hotel room for the amount of money they’re making.

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  22. mlb1225

    8 months ago

    Suspend him 5 games after he quarinteens and fine him. There needs to be some sort of punishment for players who break protocol.

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    • Steve Nebraska

      8 months ago

      He’s a pitcher a 5 game suspension means nothing. And as much as I think we need to be safe right now, if a team can fine a guy for going outside at the wrong time, that’s some 1984/V for Vendetta fascism stuff right there

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      • mlb1225

        8 months ago

        There still needs to be some punishment in place for breaking protocol. There’s a protocol for a reason, and if there isn’t going to ramafactions for breaking it, then this is gonna keep happening. I don’t want the season to get canceled, but I’m sure it’s not out of the realm of possibility of happening. There needs to be something to deter players from doing stuff like this. We could have a third Marlins/Cardinals situation just starting with the Indians.

        You are right that 5 games for a starter is basically one game. Maybe bump it up to 10 for starters.

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        • Steve Nebraska

          8 months ago

          I think the punishment is being sent home.

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        • mlb1225

          8 months ago

          I get that, but there needs to be a greater deterent. Right now, it’s go home and quarinteen. That’s not enough for the one’s going out and partying or whatnot.

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        • jakerafferty87

          8 months ago

          He’s probably going to miss two starts. Was slated to go tomorrow and its doubtful he’ll clear protocols for the next start after that.

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        • AtlSoxFan

          8 months ago

          Meantime he gets paid… no real disincentive

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      • xtraflamy

        8 months ago

        Don’t they get paid by service day, not by start. The suspensions of less than one start don’t hurt the team with a regular 5-man rotation, but they do hurt the wallet of the player.

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      • richarda-3

        8 months ago

        From the guy who craps on reading books,, it’s clear you didn’t read 1984 or V for Vendetta. Or you didn’t understand them.

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  23. beyou02215

    8 months ago

    I don’t get it. Either you play and follow the protocols knowing that any missteps can hurt the whole team, or you opt out and do what you want. IOW – If you want to go out and party, etc., then don’t play.

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  24. joefriday

    8 months ago

    Mike must have gotten what the hunter shot at and missed.

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  25. wrek305

    8 months ago

    Thanks Clevinger this the cubs.

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  26. Cey Hey

    8 months ago

    Yet another reason why coronavirus will likely linger in the U.S. longer than anyplace else. Americans want it all now and are just dumb. These last few months have been an eye-opener.

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    • throwinched10

      8 months ago

      Instant gratification. The main reason why people will never retire – they dont save money for the future. It’s a great illustration of the millenial generation. FYI I an a millenial but I’m not an idiot.

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      • MWeller77

        8 months ago

        Throwinched10: Your comments would suggest that the five words of your post are not true. Those who make sweeping claims about an entire generation of people, even if they belong to that generation, are generally not terribly perceptive or insightful

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          I completely agree. However I am actually 30. I just figured out early in life that its smart to take advice from people who you want to be like. For me, that meant taking advice from people who have their ducks in a row.

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      • baseballpun

        8 months ago

        Yeah…that’s the main reason “people” never retire. I’d like to read your dissertation.

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        • Steve Nebraska

          8 months ago

          He isn’t wrong. Most people can’t retire because of financial budgeting.

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          What’s the main reason? Is it because the system isn’t fair and the world is out to get you? (I’m using the general “you” and not referring to “you” personally.

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          I’m not saying it isnt tough. Sacrifices need to be made. I run a Wealth Management practice and I see this all of the time. The dedicated and goal oriented ones will find a way to make it happen. The ones who need the instant gratification and the fanciest items will just keep spinning their wheels.

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        • baseballpun

          8 months ago

          Yeah, I’m sure it’s handy to blame the allegedly reckless behavior of people who don’t have the money to even hire a wealth management practice for their likely inability to retire comfortably. That way we can ignore structural economic failures and just keep making moral judgments of millions of people based on a couple anecdotal accounts that serve to support our own self-aggrandizement.

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          The type of advisor that you refer to are ‘fee for service.’ Most non-salary advisors are paid based on a MER that is a percentage that comes off the top of the invested amount each month. People may not have the upfront cash to.hite an advisor but they can clearly still have an advisor. Most of the millennials I see “can’t” save or invest each month but have no problem going to Starbucks once per day.

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        • baseballpun

          8 months ago

          Sure. Even assuming you’re accurately relaying your own personal experience here, that has absolutely no bearing on the national (international, really) and generational trends regarding wealth accumulation.

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          I am not saying this applies for every millenial. A lot of people are dealt a tough hand. I also recognize that we are probably from different countries but I have also lived in the U.S. for s period of time and the story was the same with most of the people that I met. Thete is a massive lack of individual responsibility because it is so much easier to blame the system.

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        • baseballpun

          8 months ago

          No dude. “The median salary for people aged 25 to 34 is around $40,000.”

          *https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrae/2020/08/04/how-much-should-millennials-have-saved-at-every-age/#37dd91818bea*

          People are out there doing their best. Nobody wants to be poor, nobody wants to die poor. “Blaming the system” may be a convenient out for a few individuals but it’s a hell of a lot easier to blame everyone in society for going to Starbucks too often and treating poverty or the inability to retire on alleged personal moral failings than it is to engage with and try to solve structural problems. You’re the one taking the easy way out here.

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          Right…so meeting with Millenials and trying to help them save for things like a house and retirement is taking the easy way out. Coaching high school athletes and including a financial literacy component is taking the easy way out. Visiting classrooms and educating middle schoolers on budgeting is taking the easy way out. You caught me…

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        • baseballpun

          8 months ago

          I should not have made any broad assumptions about you based solely on my own anecdotal experience in this conversation, and for that I apologize.

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          While I appreciate the apology it’s not necessary. It’s all good man.

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        • wild bill tetley

          8 months ago

          Dissertation: he looked closely at his financial records and assets. Pretty straight forward, Pun.

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    • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

      8 months ago

      Every year we get cold and flu season. Even with a vaccine you’re not going to completely eliminate people getting it.

      Hardest hit population is the elderly with 55+ making up 90%+ of deaths and 79%+ are 65+. Most deaths had underlying health conditions.

      Had we actually done a better job protecting those most vulnerable, 42% of deaths stem from nursing homes, we’d be looking at closer to 94,000 deaths not 163,000.

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  27. dalrob

    8 months ago

    You really expect entitled, spoiled athletes who have their butts kissed since they were 12 to give a crap about anyone but themselves? C‘min!

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  28. dalrob

    8 months ago

    Come on!

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  29. expos_back_by_2025

    8 months ago

    They should’ve been suspenden without pay for at least a week… There isn’t really any punishment here for them

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    • wild bill tetley

      8 months ago

      Punishment is sending them to Montreal to play baseball.

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  30. 619bird

    8 months ago

    50% of the Coronavirus cases last week in St. Louis were in the 20s- 30s age group. Those people won’t likely have any serious side effects but the thing they don’t get is they can give it to someone whose older or because of underlying health conditions could experience serious side effects, hospitalization and even death. That is reckless and really just brings about a bigger issue about people not caring. I mean isn’t the suicide rate in those demographics the highest it’s ever been.

    Hey when I was in my 20s-30s I thought I’d live forever as well. Now that I’m in my 40s I realize that I have less time on this earth likely than more. I’d like to stick around, not get the rona and watch my nephews and nieces play sports, graduate high school and college and have families.

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    • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

      8 months ago

      If you’re elderly and scared. Don’t go out.

      It baffles me elderly people want to complain about young adults going out and then go out themselves to places…..

      Use delivery services for groceries.
      Use contactless delivery for essentials.
      Stores should have a dedicated line for elderly people away from the general public line.

      They do none of these.

      Friend of mine is a covid tracker. 6ft and 15 minutes is the general rule. If you’re within 6ft of someone for under 15 mins you have a less likely chance of getting it. Yet elderly people are waiting in lines at grocery stores in checkout lines impacted by covid just standing around while they clean surfaces and such.

      Instead of complaining about what others are doing you should focus on how to limit your exposure and not get it if you’re worried.

      But sitting at home watching others go out while you’re stuck at home is hard so people want to make life miserable for others as well.

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      • toooldtocare

        8 months ago

        Do t throw all the elderly into that category. I’m elderly, and do only the essentials, plus get out early in the day to walk 4-5 miles.

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      • Steve Nebraska

        8 months ago

        Responsibility and self reliance are not allowed in 2020

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      • Commonsenseslapsyou

        8 months ago

        So you’re blaming the victims for idiots like yourself who refuse to take the bare minimum precautions… because you’re special

        There’s a reason America just hit 5 million cases while New Zealand has had a single new case for 3 months. It’s selfish idiots Like you

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        • Steve Nebraska

          8 months ago

          Victims? Going to a store where you know you are incredibly likely to get infected and then telling everyone around you to behave according to your needs? Yeah I’m gunna blame that guy.

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        • throwinched10

          8 months ago

          New Zealand closed its borders right away and hasn’t been letting people in or out from what I understand.

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        • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

          8 months ago

          5 million cases? LMAO. When you prove to me don’t have more teeth than brain cells we can talk. Cases lmao.

          5 million cases. 94,000 people dead. Great it kills 2% of the cases. 1.8% of that 2% is 55+.

          I’m tossing out the 42% of deaths related to nursing homes cause people were incompetent.

          My uncle has MS and has been to at least 8 different care facilities that take his government checks. You know how many people walked around with gloves and masks pre covid? None. They used them if cleaning him but the places he stayed were filthy and he constantlyy got infections and was sent to the hospital for pneumonia and UTI infections.

          And yet it’s morons like you that think people should change their lives instead of governments taking precautions to protect those most vulnerable for people most at risk.

          The sad part is uneducated people like you get a vote.

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        • talking baseball

          8 months ago

          Right on mppg !!
          You said the truth.

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        • youngTank15

          8 months ago

          No politics, or comments will be closed.

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      • norah

        8 months ago

        What if they have to go to work? Not everyone over 60 is retired.

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      • Gigorilla

        8 months ago

        Bison, I agree w/ others — you need a brain cleansing. Your pov is embarrassing to educated mature intelligent people.

        And many of us a bit older have experience with this Covid 19 virus
        through friends, family, co-workers, or personal experiences, listening to your stupid post shows your ignorance. Change your name to Chief Bull sitting in S…t.

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      • forwhomjoshbelltolls

        8 months ago

        Exactly. If people don’t want to get sick, they should stay home and not ruin the fun for everyone else.

        Same thing, if I want to drive drunk in a car with no brakes, anyone who doesn’t want to get hit should stay home, too.

        It’s up to them to avoid the consequences of my behavior, right?

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        • baseballpun

          8 months ago

          This is exactly it. Wearing the mask, for example, is not about self-protection. It’s about protecting others. But hey, acknowledging that you have even the barest of obligations to your fellow human beings is an infringement on freedom, right?

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        • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

          8 months ago

          If I don’t want to get hit by a drunk driver I don’t drive.

          But if I get hit that’s part of the risk of driving just like getting a flat tire or getting into a fender bender. Just like going out there’s risk of getting covid and risk of getting any infection like cold or flu.

          You know how you reduce the risk of getting hit by a drunk driver? Don’t drive as much.

          You know how you reduce the risk of getting covid? Don’t go out as much.

          You know how you can reduce the risk of getting hit by a drunk driver? Uber eats, Postmates, door dash, hello fresh, instacart, you know people delivering food and essentials to you so you don’t have to go out.

          You know how you can reduce the risk of getting covid? Uber eats, Postmates, hello fresh, instacart, you know people delivering food and essentials to you so you don’t have to go to the store.

          But sure, tell everyone stay home cause it kills 94,000 people, with many having underlying health conditions, and 42% of the deaths were cause idiots didn’t take easy precautions to protect elder people in nursing home properly.

          Makes perfect sense why we need to stay instead afraid of something that can be dealt with by having those most at risk taking precautions.

          Cancer patient wouldn’t go out in public. But you’re 55+, have underlying health issues, and think it’s a good idea to go out into public instead of using options at your disposal? That’s one is on you.

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        • Commonsenseslapsyou

          8 months ago

          Will you stop with 94000. You’re just making up numbers to make yourself feel good! Omg how am I not surprised?

          It’s over 150,000 dead you moron. That’s almost 3 Vietnam’s. In 8 months, not 8 years

          Or equivalent to 9/11 in deaths every 2 days? Sure that’s nothing! God you are pathetic as a human being

          And we could have 1/5 of these cases+ deaths if people like you would be so bothered to care about society for literally weeks. CDC head said 4-6 weeks of everyone wearing masks US would have it under control, mid July… not lock yourself at home. Literally JUST wear a mask

          Instead? we’ve gained 3 million cases in the last 2 months. But what do you care! As long as you don’t have a respiratory pipe shoved up your chest cavity!

          I’m uneducated? Because I agree with scientists not politicians? Ok buddy. Thanks for ruining 2-3 years of Americans lives before everything is back to normal. Before we can go to Europe. Before school is safe. Before we don’t need masks. You’re just too important. You both, Bison and Nebraska, are some type of narcissists

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        • Cmurphy

          8 months ago

          Isn’t it 163,000?

          Well said. What a lot of people don’t understand is that so many elderly people can’t afford the extra amount to do postmates, door dash or grocery delivery. It may not seem like much more money when you’re working, it is when they’re only surviving on social security.

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        • wild bill tetley

          8 months ago

          Pun – it’s my mask, not your mask. The mask is self-protection. All are supposed to protect themselves. That is all you can do. Protecting others? Can’t do that if you have no idea what others have done or about to do.

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        • wild bill tetley

          8 months ago

          Commonsense – if you actually looked at the science you’d know Wyoming is correct. You’re using feeling over fact which directly contradicts your namesake. But I guess you’d sacrifice the elderly and neglect the data on young children. When you’re ready to wake up, narcissist, let us know.

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        • forwhomjoshbelltolls

          8 months ago

          “If I don’t want to get hit by a drunk driver I don’t drive.

          But if I get hit that’s part of the risk of driving just like getting a flat tire or getting into a fender bender. Just like going out there’s risk of getting covid and risk of getting any infection like cold or flu.

          You know how you reduce the risk of getting hit by a drunk driver? Don’t drive as much.”

          Exactly. Finally someone gets it.

          If you don’t want to be hit by a drunk driver, you stay home.

          Why should their health and safety inconvenience me in any way shape or form while I am just trying to enjoy my selfish irresponsibility?

          Who is my governor to tell me I can’t drive drunk in a car with no brakes while texting?

          My wants are all that matter.

          If people end up dead as a result, they should have tried harder to not allow me to kill them, I guess.

          Better luck next life, Chumps.

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        • forwhomjoshbelltolls

          8 months ago

          “Pun – it’s my mask, not your mask. The mask is self-protection. All are supposed to protect themselves. That is all you can do. Protecting others? Can’t do that if you have no idea what others have done or about to do.”

          In any decent society, the strong protect the weak and the healthy protect the strong.

          In any decent society.

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        • forwhomjoshbelltolls

          8 months ago

          “…and the healthy protect the (sick).”

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        • wild bill tetley

          8 months ago

          And what would a decent society do? Isolate, wear a mask when going out, doing what is necessary. Can you control the rioting? No. Stop talking about a decent society. You do not know how to achieve that. However, you can do YOUR part by doing what is right (wear mask, minimal contact, social distance etc.).

          In a real decent society. One you aren’t aware of, clearly.

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        • Javia

          8 months ago

          Ummm…you do realize that Wyoming Bison is an anti-masker who does not believe that people need to take precautions to avoid getting people sick, don’t you? Go to the top, check what he says about how Clevinger and Plesac should be able to go out and party and should not have to worry about getting others sick. I do not believe you are on the side that you think you are wild bill.

          Maybe if you had read the book you would realize that Jack and the choir boys were AGAINST doing what was right for the community and had no concern for and actually killed the weak and the sick. Like I said, you are fighting for the wrong side!

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        • Javia

          8 months ago

          Sorry, technically I don’t know if Wyoming Bison is an anti-masker. What I do know is that he believes that the old and sick should take precautions and take care of themselves while none of the rest of us should have to stay in to prevent the spread. Basically, he believes that the old and the sick are on their own and none of the rest of us have any responsibility to take precautions to protect them. Are you also one of those wild bill?

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        • Commonsenseslapsyou

          8 months ago

          Wild bill, I most certainly am not using emotion over fact

          If anything, the guy saying “the deaths are really this bad because X, Y,Z justification”…. or, “who cares about five million cases of an infection we have no cure or vaccine for!”… that’s the guy acting on emotion. Well, lack of emotion

          If I’m acting on emotion, why is there not another first world nation that still has 800+ dying a day? Why are we the only nation setting daily death records 7-8 months into a pandemic… when we should know how to slow the spread by now? Why is there no massive increase in deaths in Europe, Asia, Canada… that mirrors the US recent problems? Why am I repeating facts and you’re not? When did “emotion” become code words for reality?

          The emotion I feel at this point is anger at his lack of empathy of society. And Now I’m looking at you trying to come at me because i use the real numbers not “well I don’t believe in the first 42% of deaths so they don’t count” BS

          Sounds like the Presidents math. Get out of here

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        • Commonsenseslapsyou

          8 months ago

          I believe you’re right Cmurphy

          And with that, I can go from saying *almost* 3x as many dead in Vietnam to Saying it *IS* 3x as many dead as Vietnam

          …In 1/12 the time, with no shots fired…

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        • youngTank15

          8 months ago

          The problem is some politicians and scientists have double standards. Forbid people from going to church and singing but allow people to protest. Scientists who support that have lost credibility, like saying there are more than 2 genders.

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        • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

          8 months ago

          I’m sorry butter cup do facts hurt your precious little feelings? Suck it up.

          42% of covid deaths are directly linked to nursing homes. FACT. 5 governors placed covid patients directly in nursing home, all democrats. FACT.

          I can only confirm for California but I wouldn’t be surprised if other states were this way too.

          Here in California, Newsome decided to put covid patients into nursing homes with poor sanitary conditions, 1, 2, or 3 stars. Not 4 or 5. Surprise there. California has a huge issue with minorities being at higher risk in nursing homes, you know minorities staying in 1, 2, or 3 star places……weird. Almost like they’re connected.

          Even before covid, outbreaks have been known to be common in lower class nursing homes for years in California, mostly state funded for ones, i.e. they take checks sent to people by the state.

          People also went to work sick or infected not using proper gear, gloves, masks, washing hands often, or even sanitizer. They didn’t clean the facilities at first either. Why would they? They didn’t do it in the past for things to me the flu, clearly. They only took precautions after outbreaks happened, they didn’t take preventive measures. Cause, let’s face the facts, they die the facility loses money. But most that money isn’t going towards proper conditions for patients I can tell you that much.

          Workers were told they can’t be contagious if you’re asymptomatic. Which, for an outbreak that’s related to the cold and flu……you’d think if people can spread cold and flu asymptomatic……you’d be able to spread corona asymptomatic. Which, if you didn’t know it could or could not be spread asymptomatic why TF would you tell people you can’t instead of saying you could and should be careful? Why go from telling people you don’t need to wear masks to you need to wear masks and now you need to wear face shields……1 reason, incompetence.

          So no, I’m not going to stop saying 94,000 just because you’re incapable of handling facts that counter what you’ve been programmed to believe.

          Of those 42% most if not all would most likely not have died due to covid if governors weren’t incompetent and exposing people most at risk directly to covid, had the state actually cared about nursing home conditions, had “experts” not tell people things were ok to do when they honestly had no clue, and had people at work simply wore a mask, washed their hands more often, and gloves when dealing with patients on a regular basis, even before corona.

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        • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

          8 months ago

          Ummmmmm. Not what I said.

          Your reading comprehension is awful.

          What I did say is I’m surprised teams don’t set things up for players to do while on the road. Doesn’t take a genius to know people 20-29 want to go out. You’d think teams would designate “safe” places players can go or bring/provide services they like to the players outside the hotel.

          Also, not an anti masking. Wrong again bucko. 0/2 so far.

          Clearly I think covid is an issue. Which is why I keep saying those most at risk should be the ones the government needs to provide services and other amenities to in order to limit their need to go out and risk exposure.

          What makes more sense?
          If youre elderly or have health issues we recommend you stay home and we will make sure you get food, essentials, and anything you need. Everyone else, you go out at your own risk. Jobs must make accomodations for people who believe they are at risk.

          OR

          Everyone stay home and if you’re sick or elderly or have health issues go wait in long lines at grocery stores while they clean surfaces being around people for more than 15 minutes within 6ft who can’t follow arrows on the ground in stores and may or may not be infected. Also, you can’t go to work and small businesses have to shut down now.

          Plan B sounds great.

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        • Javia

          8 months ago

          @Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

          Throwinched10 suggested that unlimited room service and access to beautiful women is just a mouse click away for the players. Your response:”Doesn’t sound too appealing to someone in their 20s. You know what does sound appealing? Going out with your friends, picking up women or just hanging out at a bar, and enjoying life”

          So right here you are AGAINST bringing/providing services they like TO the players? Hmm. So, to you, the only thing that really matters is the players actually being able to go out? So maybe each team can rent out bars wherever they go and close it to everyone who is not part of the team’s approved “bubble” people? Perhaps each team should bring an approved travelling team of clean drinking buddies and prostitutes for the players? Oh, that’s right, you said young men don’t like prostitutes. They like picking up strange women themselves… So basically it seems that anything that keeps the players in or away from groups of untested people you are against?

          Also, you can see right there the first line in my last reply was “Sorry, technically I don’t know if Wyoming Bison is an anti-masker.” So perhaps you should check you own reading comprehension before you call someone else our for theirs being awful?

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    • chicagofan1978

      8 months ago

      This is the reason why I have chosen to not do chemo for my cancer. I’m not “the elderly” yet but I’m old enough. If I have to be held hostage in my house for years I guess I’d just rather go out on my own terms. Be safe everyone

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  31. filthyrich

    8 months ago

    what if it’s a nmendoza mnemonic?

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  32. Jeff Zanghi

    8 months ago

    Was this a move by the Indians or the league? but also like seriously guys?!? I know it sucks to have to stay in the hotel the whole time BUT it’s literally just for like 2/3 months and you’re getting paid millions of $ to play — why can’t you just stay put so the league can actually play out the season!?!

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    • AtlSoxFan

      8 months ago

      Because intelligence isn’t one of the “tools” evaluated by scouts and a requirement to succeed at playing baseball.

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    • hockeyjohn

      8 months ago

      It was a move by the Indians based on MLB and Indian team protocols.. Team president Chris Antonetti and Manager Terry Francona will meet with the press Tuesday afternoon. I am sure we will learn more then.

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  33. yaketymac

    8 months ago

    Dan Plesac must be spinning in his grave

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    • norah

      8 months ago

      Except that he’s still alive.

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      • Briffle

        8 months ago

        I’m sure there’s a dead Dan Plesac out there.

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  34. phillyballers

    8 months ago

    So is Plesac available? Phillies?

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    • AtlSoxFan

      8 months ago

      Should trade him to miami. See how long he wants to go out every night down there.

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  35. Commonsenseslapsyou

    8 months ago

    This season and the breakouts are perfect summations of how the country has handled this. Most take it seriously, the few who think “it won’t affect me” are why multiple teams have half the games the rest of the league does

    Selfish people

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    • baseballpun

      8 months ago

      It’s almost like people who practice “personal responsibility” can and do still fall victim to a dysfunctional society.

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      • Briffle

        8 months ago

        Which begs the question, why be a responsible and productive member of society?

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  36. Gocubsgo1986

    8 months ago

    Imagine making nothing but disposable income and having nowhere to spend it.

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  37. Vizionaire

    8 months ago

    HA HA!

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  38. chisoxjuan

    8 months ago

    The Cards situation was all the talk today. The writers want MLB to impose at least a 50 gm threshhold for post season play. They also feel any gms the Cards miss should only be played if both teams have something to play for. The 2 @ Det on Thu likely will be canceled instead of PPD. The Cards won’t be shutdown but they may be the first team elimiated. If they are cleared to play in time for the cubs they are looking at 6 gms over 3 days there.

    So there is potentially a severe team penalty for misbehaving players.

    Is Clev next?

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    • trumpcards29

      8 months ago

      No.

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  39. Fred McGriff

    8 months ago

    If only he’d gone ‘peaceful protesting’ or looting there would be ‘nothing to see here’.

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    • Commonsenseslapsyou

      8 months ago

      Pretty sure none of those people make millions a year and could single handly infect multiple teams with a virus, derailing their season for weeks

      But yeah! Same thing!

      Let’s also ignore those aren’t the people spreading covid. That’s just too annoying for you to acknowledge. Psst. They mostly wear masks pssst

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      • youngTank15

        8 months ago

        But are they 6 ft apart?

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  40. Cmurphy

    8 months ago

    Why did the Indians fly back to Cleveland if they were playing the Cubs next? I thought the point of the scheduling was to avoid that.

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    • Cmurphy

      8 months ago

      Answering my own question, they’re playing in Cleveland against the Cubs.

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  41. Joel

    8 months ago

    Unbelievably selfish. Good thing Carrasco is no longer going through the rounds of chemotherapy.

    Let’s just hope that his immune system has returned closer to normal.

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  42. tgovey

    8 months ago

    Selfish.

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  43. MarkoRock68

    8 months ago

    Clevinger should receive a ban similar to a Ped test, He knew the rules basically tweeted that he wasn’t going to follow them.
    “On Friday, the 29-year-old Clevinger posted a song lyric on Twitter by Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder that seems to underscore his defiant nature.”
    “I knew all the rules, but the rules did not know me,” Clevinger wrote.

    Seriously a 29 yr old should have some common sense and maturity by that age. What a punk

    Then he misled and put teammates/coaches at risk by hiding his actions Sunday night and then to make matters worse flying with the team .In late July he spoke of self discipline the players (hypocrite) Last month, Clevinger said he was in favor of the team having guidelines to keep players in check.

    “This isn’t going to be a `run to daddy’ kind of thing. We’re going to handle it in-house. This is a player discipline thing. Keep the coaches, front office kind of out of it,” he said on July 30. “It puts a little extra accountability, kind of. Just having that trust in your teammates is a big thing. It’s a big thing on the field. If you feel your teammate doesn’t trust you off the field how are you going to feel like he trusts you when you get between the lines?”

    He needs ” Daddy ” to take him out behind the woodshed because obviously this 29 yr old has the maturity of a 12 yr old. – what a dirtbag lowlife

    What stand up guy and teammate.
    sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/indians-clevinger-violat…

    He should be shunned by all of baseball and when he hits free agency teams should have enough moral fortitude to not want this type of cancer in their clubhouse.

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  44. basquiat

    8 months ago

    ‘Look at me. I can throw a baseball real fast. I’m special.’

    It’s unspeakable that Clevinger and Plesac would expose Carrasco so recklessly. This is why we can’t leave it up to ‘personal responsibility and freedom.’ There are irresponsible people everywhere.

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  45. Paul Griggs

    8 months ago

    Even an average major league player has been told they are great and can do anything most of their lives. It is a rare person who won’t let that go their head. I think that’s part of the reason Mike Trout is so widely respected. Same could be said of Derek Jeter and Don Mattingly in their playing days. Too many think the rules don’t apply to them. The teams need to start organizing activities for the young kids to keep them from getting bored and doing something stupid.

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  46. WarrenSpahn

    8 months ago

    this is turrible…that Clevinger is a knucklehead…

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  47. thebluemeanie

    8 months ago

    Clevinger reminds me of Mitch Kramer from the movie Dazed and Confused.

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  48. Daw(e)some

    8 months ago

    Affect vs effect author

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