The Padres have officially acquired right-handed reliever Trevor Rosenthal from the Royals, both teams have announced. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic first reported that the two sides were nearing an agreement. AJ Cassavell of MLB.com reports that outfielder Edward Olivares is part of the return headed to Kansas City in the deal. In addition, a player to be named later will go to the Royals in the deal, per Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.
Rosenthal, 30, has emerged as one of the most sought-after relief pitchers on the trade market, representing a dramatic turnaround from a disastrous 2019 season—his return from Tommy John Surgery, which cost him the previous year—that saw him walk 26 batters in just 15 1/3 innings of work.
However, it seems that Rosenthal has for the most part returned to the form that made him an All-Star closer with the Cardinals in the first leg of his career. He’s grounded his walk numbers while striking out as many batters as ever, and he’s boasting a nice 3.29 ERA to match.
The Royals brought Rosenthal aboard as a minor-league signing last winter, and they’ve parlayed that low-cost acquisition into a nice payoff, not only getting 13 games of solid pitching from Rosenthal, but now acquiring a pair of pieces (the second of which remains unknown) that are more in line with the organization’s long-term outlook.
Rosenthal will join the Padres with the expectation that he’ll bolster a Padres bullpen that’s been worn down by injuries to Kirby Yates and Drew Pomeranz. Emilio Pagan and Craig Stammen have struggled to fill Yates’s shoes, and for the first time in years the Padres find themselves in position to make a win-now move to strengthen their best roster in recent memory. Rosenthal is only under contract through this year, so he’s a true rental, but his acquisition addresses a glaring need for San Diego.
Rosenthal, who by making the Royals’ MLB roster secured a $2MM base salary for the season, is only owed about $350K for the remainder of the year (due to prorated salaries and roughly half the season in the books), so there’s little obligation on San Diego’s end, outside of the prospect capital required to bring Rosenthal aboard.
The 24-year-old Olivares will depart the Padres after getting his first shot at the big leagues this year. Originally acquired from the Blue Jays in 2018, Olivares has forged a solid minor-league track record, including a 2019 season in which he slugged 18 home runs and stole 35 bases at the Double-A level. To start this year, he’s hit just .176/.222/.294 for the Padres, but he’s still just 34 at-bats into his Major League career.
lowtalker1
Cool
nowheretogobutup
Great pick up for the Padres for their playoff run, we have three RP’s on the IL
Rangers29
Because the Padres need more bullpen arms… Wow.
Does this move Quantrill to the rotation?
Mrtwotone
I mean they kinda do. But who doesn’t
DarkSide830
they’re all injured though
CNichols
The Padres do need more bullpen arms with Yates, Munoz, Castillo, all down for the year, Pomeranz on the IL and Stammen and Pagan looking very off.
They need Quantrill to stay in the pen, him and Strahm are the only two they can really trust right now, but getting Rosenthal would help stabilize the backend of the pen a lot until Pomeranz can get back.
DarkSide830
Strahm has been good wdym
CNichols
Strahm is good. I mean that Quantrill and Strahm are like the only two reliable relievers in the SD pen right now. Perdomo and Guerra are mop up guys. Pagan and Stammen are not pitching well and Hill/Johnson are kinda like mediocre.
Rosenthal plus Quantrill, Strahm and then a healthy Pomeranz is a bullpen that gives them a fighting chance in my mind.
DarkSide830
oh im dumb, sorry, confused Strahm and Stammen in your post. too many of the same letters.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Quantrill needs to start. You don’t draft relievers in the top 10.
agentx
Mostly true, though sometimes you’ve got to admit with first rounders like Hochevar and now possibly Quantrill that after less-than-stellar rotation stints they may be most useful out of the ‘pen.
DarkSide830
so if you had 6 ML ready guys drafted in the top 10 you’d have to start all of them? terrible take. doesnt matter where Quantrill was drafted, if him in the pen and his starting spot replacement provide morw value then if their roles were reversed, then you go with that.
oldmansteve
Look up Sunk Cost
Javia
Over half of Quantrill’s time in the rotation was stellar. For the last month of last year he was terrible. The ship has far from sailed on Quantrill as a starter. He is just more valuable as a guy who can do anything, start, relieve or close than he is as just a starter right now.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
@DarkSide830…
“With no AAA season, 2020 will expose Luis Urias for the AAAA player he is.”
Oh look, the dude has a .365 OBP this season.
Lucyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, you’ve got some ‘splainin’ to do!
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
@Steve Nebraska lol now you are calling a former top 10 pick with a 2.76 ERA this season a sunk cost?
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
@agentx no comparison. Hochevar struggled as a starter for years before they moved him to the pen. Quantrill has been more good than bad as a starter but Preller and co. have banished him to the pen because reasons.
csspackler
They got a better player in Grisham. — Lucy
oldmansteve
No, I am replying to your dumb reasoning that just because of where he was drafted, he ought to start. I think he can be a starter, but just because a guy is drafted in the top ten he has to start is the definition of sunk cost reasoning.
nutznboltz
Seriously? You do know he only has 47 ab’s right?
The Infinity Gauntlet
Sometimes Draft Picks dont turn out the way you hoped. Then you just have to do what you can with the Player you have.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
@csspackler Grisham plays a less premium position and has already started to crater after a hot start. His negativity is not good in the Padres’ clubhouse.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Adding on, the issue isn’t about Grisham, it’s about how this Dark Side guy spent all of last offseason hooting and hollering about how Luis Urias is a AAAA player.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
@The Infinity Gauntlet according to who has Quantrill “not turned out the way we hoped?” He’s 25 years old. He looked pretty good as a starter except for the final month of 2019. You need to give him an actual chance before you can write him off as a starter.
DarkSide830
wow, he’s hit well in 47 at bats. that’s great but that’s not exactly a large sample size, nor are his numbers outside of AVG all that great.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Yeah, he’s not a power hitter. Never has been.
As for the OBP, don’t go into hiding when he sustains it.
nowheretogobutup
Who is Luis Urias? and who cares
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
@nowheretogobutup Clearly you do considering you commented.
Still waiting for you to provide proof of Luis Urias having “negativity.”
csspackler
Pomeranz just activated. 100 percent healthy.
420ambassador
spack, feels like i haven’t seen a post from you in ages.
steelerbravenation
Ok cards starting to fall
Let’s get Clevinger or Plesac to Atlanta by the end of the day AA
Pache for Plesac make it happen
DarkSide830
Pleasc is worth more then just Pache
jdgoat
No way Plesac is so overrated. If they were able to get a prospect of Pache’s caliber for Plesac, they would for sure pull that trigger.
DarkSide830
dirt cheap and half a decade of control? did you also see the numbers he was posting before he was sent down?
joedirte4life
The Braves ain’t doing that lol
ctguy
The Indians ain’t doing that.
steelerbravenation
Yaz & Solano to Indians
Pache, Riley & Newcomb to Giants
Clevinger to the Braves
antibelt
You would have to add a top 5 Giants prospect in there at minimum. Probably a top ten as well. Like Corry and Ramos/Wilson.
bestno5
Indians say no thank you
KCJ
For real. If I was an Indians fan, that trade would make me throw up in my mouth a little
Orel Saxhiser
No smart team is going to abandon their longterm strategy over this abbreviated season. In a 60-game schedule, the Orioles and Marlins are on the periphery of the playoffs. But that wouldn’t sustain itself over 162 games where both would lose in the neighborhood of 100 games. It’s doubtful that brain trust for either team thinks they have turned the corner. Similarly. a good team like the Indians isn’t going to dump Clevinger and/or Plesac now. Wait until the winter, assess what you have, and then do what’s best for the longterm health of the franchise.
Orel Saxhiser
Horrible trade for San Francisco. I can see them trading Solano now and Yaz over the winter, but not in the same trade. Zaidi’s a smart guy who can make a decent haul trading them separately. He can do much better than Pache, Riley, and Newcomb for Yaz by himself. Braves fans are funny. They somewhat rightfully complain that Riley and Newcomb stink, yet think professional general managers are going to trade good players for those two. I guess every team has fans like that: our stiffs for your studs.
steelerbravenation
Newcomb doesn’t stink he just isn’t a SP. He was quite effective coming out the pen last year.
Also Riley has displayed a better than expected glove this year and he has light tower power. He is young and should get it together.
Pache is a top prospect who is universally labeled the best defensive CF in minor league baseball. Something the Giants have been looking for in that ballpark since it opened.
Solano is a journeyman who is having a career year and that career year could be used by a contender.
Yaz was a AAAA player last year when the Giants got him. Is he Jose Bautista or is he Adam Duvall ???
Time will tell & the Giants rebuild don’t have the luxury of him turning into Duvall and not capitalizing when he has a chance to be Bautista. He is to old to be looked at as a building block.
bravesfan88
There is DEFINITELY a 3-way trade there to be made, but not for Clevinger..
Braves get: Plesac, Solano
Indians get: Yaz, Wilson, Shewmake
Giants get: Waters, Touki
Something along those lines, maybe change some of the fillers, and it would work out alot more realistically…
The facts are, unless Cleveland feels they’re getting a solid, difference making OF’er they aren’t trading one of their starters, especially not Clevinger.
They’re asking way too much for Clevinger, and rightfully so, but Plesac could probably be had for the right price.
Dogbone
Kris Bryant to the Indians for Clevinger or Plesac. Helps both teams.
Indiansjoe
Except Cleveland wouldn’t take on that much salary. I don’t hate the idea of one for one, just can’t happen because of the economics.
Lovinmlb
Indians don’t want another outfielder who can’t hit. If other GM’s are anything like this sites GM’s their pitchers aren’t going anywhere. Very few people seem to comprehend the value of a proven starter with years of control. Look what Cubs and pirates gave up for lesser talent. What trash cans gave up for older more expensive. Deal would start with 2 elite prospects and go from there.
earmbrister
You’re right, the cards are starting to fall. Lost their last 4 games, hopefully no end in sight.
99 Captain Judge
@Javia- This will definitely help the Friars in the playoffs this season.
spanishpole
Now go get Lynn A.J.
HalosHeavenJJ
Padres are a fun team to watch right now. I like this pick up.
driftcat28 2
Does Staumont close for KC after?
oldmansteve
I hope so, but I think they will give Barlow the first shot because it always works like that. Staumont should be the guy in my opinion.
lowtalker1
I think you misspelled stammen
mlb1225
No, he meant Staumont, 26-year-old relief pitcher for the Royals. But I could see them going with a closer by committie role.
lowtalker1
I know who he is I want stammen gone and going to the royals would help that
TLB2001
Matheny will use the “closer” in the highest leverage situation, whether that’s the 9th or the 7th. The traditional 9th inning only guy is going to be increasingly rare.
RoyalsFanAmongWolves
staumont or holland
pcwizblue
You can never have enough pitching.
Rosenthal has pitched well this year and will fit right in, with Slam Diego!
Plesac, most likely not going anywhere. Jays, have discipline him and I thinking he will be back up this week. Blue Jays management have him under contract for another added year per contractual obligations.
lamars
Plesac, is on the Indians.
cobbalicious
How do u confuse the blue jays and Indians?
oldmansteve
Assuming he usurps Pagan as the Closer immediately?
CNichols
Yes until Pomeranz can come off the IL
CNichols
Wow only took Pomeranz 15 minutes to come off IL. That was quick.
I would guess Pom is the 9th inning guy, but earlier in the season they did randomly throw him in the 7th inning once to face a part of the lineup with a lot of lefties and then they let Quantrill close so they could let both Rosenthal and Pom close depending on matchups and what part of the lineup they are facing.
petersdylan36
Olivares heading to the Royals.
Seems like certain teams always trade with each other.
Since the offseason, the padres have made at least two trades with the:
Royals
A’s
Rays
mgomrjsurf
At least they knew they weren’t going to be able to get Merrifield but could of tryed Danny Duffy to.
The Dominos haven’t started to fall intill we see like a Bundy or Clevenger or even Lindor or maybe Springer go to a team like Dodgers or Braves or so on.
Padres458
Fellowship of the small market teams.
lowtalker1
Padres have traded with the As more than any other team since 1969
JerryBird
Rosenthal has been one of the few good stories in 2020. I hope he has continued success where ever he ends up.
ukpadre
Wherever he ends up? I’m not expert, but I’m going to take a shot in the dark and say it’ll be the Padres…
bravesfan88
If you like good stories, you should check out AJ Minter, and his bounce back season…
However, there is another lefty, former 1st round draft pick, and also former Independent League pitcher that is having a resurgent season in Atlanta, Tyler Matzek…His comeback has been remarkable this year, and have to give him a ton of credit for never giving up through all his injuries and his highs and lows. He was quoted as saying he was seriously considering retiring from the game, but it was his wife’s belief in him and her confidence that ultimately kept him going..
15IP, only 4BB to 21Ks, multiple appearances over 1 inning, .254 BAA, and for the traditionalists a 3.50 ERA…for Matzek
Aa for Minter, 11IP, 11K, 3BB, only 8H allowed, and he is carrying just a 0.82ERA
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
I remember watching Matzek pitch against my Padres during his rookie year. He looked REALLY good.
From what I read he had the same type of problems Zack Greinke and Khalil Greene had. Nice to see him push through it.
VegasSDfan
The Padres are probably an arm away from a serious playoff run. They have the offense. Minus the relief pitcher injuries, they could be playing right with LA.
GoLandCrabs
Dodgers are a significantly better team but 2nd place is just as good as 1st this season.
CNichols
Its going to be really hard to evaluate these trades with all of the PTBNLs because I can’t tell if Oliveras + ? is an overpay or not.
They definitely needed the bullpen help and want to win now, so its good from that perspective, I’m just hoping the PTBNL isn’t anyone of value because I like Oliveras for Rosenthal straight up, but would be weary of paying much more than that for a pure rental.
Javia
If you look at the Padres 60-man roster for this year, all of their top-10 prospects are on it. So are most of their other quality prospects. Considering that players drafted this year cannot be traded as a PTBNL anymore, there is only 1 name available that I would really regret losing. That is Ismail Mena.
cygnus2112
Yep, the tools are sick! However I’m getting the vibe that it’ll be Reggie Lawson based on the normal standard operation of the Moore regime & love of pitching.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
I don’t think Preller is going to trade his #1 international signing from last year for a one month (plus potential postseason) rental reliever.
VegasSDfan
Oliveras was our 20th best prospect. He plays all 3 outfield positions, has some power, likely a .280 hitter, has plus speed. He should be a solid 3rd/4th outfielder.
We need a reliever more. I feel like we did well
nowheretogobutup
Over pay for Olivares hitting .176 I don’t think so
ChangedName
The trade deadline so far isn’t a great reflection on MLB GMs, guys like Taijuan Walker and Trevor Rosenthal who could have been had by anyone for next to nothing over the winter are fetching assets?
oldmansteve
You have hindsight bias. If a contender have paid them the money and they did not bounce back it would have been a waste of a contract. Now they see a guy produce then give a team a small piece and get him anyway. To me that seems a lot smarter than buying a bunch of guys hoping for a bounce back.
Also, rebuilding teams are willing to pay more for these guys because they typically aren’t spending that much money on their current roster, and get a big benefit if they produce.
It is a win-win situation. I think this kind of stuff is a great reflection of GMs all around.
MarkoRock68
Jays getting Walker could not have started out better. 6 shut out innings.
bravesfan88
Definitely agree with this, good post Steve!!
DarkSide830
does the 2020 season not exist or something?
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
2020 in general doesn’t exist. This is all just some mythical creature’s bad dream.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
The Royals bought low on Rosenthal. This isn’t like when people said Hosmer and Machado would be traded within a year after Preller signed them even though he was clearly buying high on both players.
nowheretogobutup
Great trade for the Padres badly needed RP with a strong ERA
VTGiant
I don’t know, Rosenthal got shelled Wednesday, 3 runs, 2 bbs in an inning and a 3rd.
We’ll see how this goes.
oldmansteve
Judging a small sample size season by an even smaller sample size. Big brain.
Joey Schmoey 2
Great box score watcher see a contract coming your way from every mlb
Struck out 2 to end 8th nasty
Got his pitch count to high missed 3-4 strikes on the paint
Had pitched night before matheny tried to hand game to next in line for 1 out yadier molina
He couldnt get 1 out n eventually lost the game w 3 run lead
DrDan75
All pitchers get shelled once in a while. If their location is just a tad off and they’re not throwing strikes on the corners, watch out.
Stammen has that problem a lot.
RoyalsFanAmongWolves
What is the likelihood that St. Louis Cardinals makes it to the playoffs and faces the Padres?
bravesfan
No thank you… I don’t see this holding up long term
CNichols
Well good thing its a rental and just has to hold up through October
krillin89
That’s all it took?
Superstar Car Wash
Nobody is giving up anything of worth for players who will be gone in one month.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
ThEy CaN eXtEnD hIm!
Superstar Car Wash
They could! But he’s a Boras client, so he’ll probably end up testing the market again this offseason.
kingcong95
Padres have announced the trade. Can someone please update the post?
twitter.com/Padres/status/1299814111463776256?ref_…
Royalsfan12
Not sure why the Royals need another outfielder
baseballwarshipper
Because they need to stock up on as many young quality prospects as they can and sort out the positions later.
saavedra
As a padre fan it sucks that this guy Olivares, a player the team seemed to have faith on, was so easy to brush aside, I see a tendency on that (Margot, Renfroe, Cordero, Franmil, to name a few), and while this team definitively needs pitching help, it also desperately needs a LF/CF (Grisham’s arm is better suited for LF IMO), which they might just have dealt, along with another piece.
baseballanalytics
Olivares was not going to help a playoff run this year, nor do I think he represented a long term option in the OF. This is a win-now move.
KCJ
Olivares hasn’t had a hit all year
ukpadre
A lot of it has to do with the position Preller is in. He’s been given time and it hasn’t panned out yet (losing season after losing season). So, even if he has faith in Olivares long term, he needs to win now, so why keep a guy for a few years down the line when he (Preller) won’t be there in a few years if he doesn’t win now? Smart move for a guy on the hot seat, but not for e franchise as a whole.
bravesfan88
Correct, everyone knew Preller was on the hot seat this season. He is doing what he can to win right now, and if he can do that by giving up marginal future assets, he isnt going to hesitate
ForDoingNothing
Figured with how easily he breezed through the Bomba squad all year the twins would have some interest. Our bullpen continues to get crushed recently but the Twins will sit on their hands and watch as they fall into third place where they belong
MWeller77
There’s some precedent for a closer named Trevor having success in San Diego 🙂
DarkSide830
wow, glad Phillies didnt go too hard on him. Oliveras alone is a solid piece to give up, let alone plus.
nowheretogobutup
Sure he’s a great piece hitting .176 he’ll never make the Bigs, Olivares is a sixth OFer
steelerbravenation
Hey KC fans what gets the Braves Duffy ?
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
So far so good. Olivares was expendable and this NEEDS good relievers right now.
PSA: The PTBNL will 100% not be one of the recent draftees. The Trea Turner rule clearly stipulates that including players you just drafted as PTBNL’s before the season is over is no longer allowed.
steelerbravenation
Olivares beats out Cordero in the spring and now they trade him to probably take his spot on the Royals.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Cordero can’t move without breaking a bone
Hired Gun 23
Solid pick up for the Friars. Wish E.O well in KC! Still would like to see them add a starter…
jints1
He has recently been shaky but he’s better than what they have.
TLB2001
He has not recently been shaky, he had one fluke outing where a couple runs scored that wouldn’t have been on at all but for a misplay on a fly ball by Hunter Dozier in RF. Rosey has been lights out all year.
Lovinmlb
A for both teams. Seems like a even trade. Nice player for royals, ptbnl is just a bonus. Padres are having a special year, gm needs playoffs, these are partable assets for a much needed piece. How many better relievers are available in a market where a dozen teams want these kinda guys?
nowheretogobutup
Padres got the better of this deal as they run to the playoffs this year
TLB2001
Padres fans have any insight on the prospect? Looks like decent minor league numbers with both power and speed? Takes walks and strikes out?
lowtalker1
Perhaps perdomo or Brett Kennedy
Gwynning
I think he meant Olivares… Toolsy, kinda like the right-handed version of Franchy but more raw at the plate and in the field. Faster than advertised, he could be a middle of the order guy if he adapts quickly. Feed him breaking balls to get him out.
609Collectibles
So many people said he was washed up. He was still throwing high mid 90s last year and is 28 years old. Sneaky good signing by the Royals and they turned it into prospects. Where were ya on that one Klentak? I actually wrote his dumb a$$ a letter asking what the heck he was thinking going into the season with that bullpen. I’m sure it never made it to his desk but I just couldn’t believe they were going in with Tommy Hunter and Jose Alvarez as their primary set up guys. They literally did nothing to address the pen. They must have been counting on Drob to come back in August. Ooops. They’re hot right now though
bravesfan88
Adding Hale and the Boston duo, Workman and Hembree, looks to have reshuffled their pen enough to make a huge difference moving forward…
Last year, after the Braves added their own 3 guys, it made a huge difference. Not just by adding the new guys, but it allowed Snit and Co. to better utilize the guys we already had in lower pressure situations. Ended up helping their entire pen tremendously, maybe it will be the same for the Phillies..So far so good..
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
All those who were wondering why Preller made this trade need only look at what happened tonight.
They need to bring Balsley back…
nowheretogobutup
Balsey is working for the Padres in the minor leagues, but I am concerned about some pitchers who did better with Balsey last year.
Paddack for one is not having a good year and its concerning.
nowheretogobutup
Balsey is working for the Padres in the minor leagues, but I am concerned about some pitchers who did better with Balsey last year.
Paddack for one is not having a good year and its concerning.
AJ the Rastaman
i mean, here we go again. rosenthal’s better than Timmy Hill. but what kind of idiot says that a 3.3 ERA is good for a reliever. that’s AVERAGE for a reliever. and this dude has a small sample size since being on the verge of playing independent league ball and we just traded one of our better prospects PLUS someone else for a guy who’s only successful against left handers and we have for 1 year. good ole AJ.. his moves are either fantastic or pretty bad.