Steve, I’m normally a big fan of yours, but why would you say that about Bart being drafted by Evans, and Zaidi, and his drafting Bailey, when you guys at MLBTR are always telling us that teams never draft for need, but always take the best player available? Are you telling us that Zaidi had made up his mind about Bart when he took over, and drafted Bailey, because his his opinion of Bart was not good?
He pretty much answered your question. He simply said giants new front office may have a different view on Bart than the front office that drafted him. This is common in baseball also referencing back to another answer of his every front office or scout may view each prospect different therefore they will have differing approaches depending what they see and value. I don’t think it was implied you shouldn’t draft the best prospect available, for all we know Zaidi could have drafted first overall and picked the same way. Nobody knows how these teams truly break down how they evaluate players so it’s not as simple as you put it.
It should still come down to who is developing better, not pre-draft appraisals. It’s possible that Zaidi didn’t think as highly of Bart as Evans did, and maybe taken someone else at #2, but that’s irrelevant to what value they’ve gained by what they’ve done in the minors.
But my point was, the situation, as depicted by Steve, seemed to be saying, Zaidi maybe didn’t prefer Bart just was because he was Evans’ choice. That makes Zaidi seem a little petty, and I don’t think that’s the case. Especially since Bart has performed much better in the minors than Bailey has so far.
Your reading too much into text. Your reading it that way I don’t think anyone else has. If he said the same words out loud you could take them totally differently.
Sorry, should have come back sooner, so you probably won’t see this. But:
“Bart was drafted by the old regime, and Zaidi immediately came in and selected another catcher in round 1 of the next year’s draft. I’m sure Zaidi likes Bart well enough, but it was worth wondering whether this front office would move him even before Posey had his resurgence.”
I don’t think I’d interpret that any differently, had I heard him say that. The implication is clear. Bart, old regime, Zaidi, selected another catcher, worth wondering if (Zaidi) would move him.
Baseball Trade Values says the Hosmer contract is worse than the Heyward contract.
And I still see a Scherzer extension as benefiting the team far more than it benefits Scherzer. Unless he has legitimate reason to believe he’s going to blow his arm out in the next 3 months.
Trade idea…
Donaldson to the Ray’s for a prospect a ptbnl. The ptbnl is Donaldson. Ray’s use him for the playoff run and then return him? They arent tied up in his salary… they make a run at the playoffs… twins get a prospect and then donaldson next year. everyone wins.
A professional baseball person like Steve… does this work or is a PTBNL need to be in the minors or not the 40-man? (I also realize this is likely a sarcastic comment/joke but I like the idea in other situations… like Trea to the dodgers or Kimbrel)
Steve, I’m normally a big fan of yours, but why would you say that about Bart being drafted by Evans, and Zaidi, and his drafting Bailey, when you guys at MLBTR are always telling us that teams never draft for need, but always take the best player available? Are you telling us that Zaidi had made up his mind about Bart when he took over, and drafted Bailey, because his his opinion of Bart was not good?
I think in this situation it can be a combination of both.
They probably picked best available in that draft. It just happened to overlap with the top pick/prospect of the previous organization.
No fast forward to know, you have two catchers you like, one you drafted personally and one you inherited. Which one would they rather have?
He pretty much answered your question. He simply said giants new front office may have a different view on Bart than the front office that drafted him. This is common in baseball also referencing back to another answer of his every front office or scout may view each prospect different therefore they will have differing approaches depending what they see and value. I don’t think it was implied you shouldn’t draft the best prospect available, for all we know Zaidi could have drafted first overall and picked the same way. Nobody knows how these teams truly break down how they evaluate players so it’s not as simple as you put it.
It should still come down to who is developing better, not pre-draft appraisals. It’s possible that Zaidi didn’t think as highly of Bart as Evans did, and maybe taken someone else at #2, but that’s irrelevant to what value they’ve gained by what they’ve done in the minors.
But my point was, the situation, as depicted by Steve, seemed to be saying, Zaidi maybe didn’t prefer Bart just was because he was Evans’ choice. That makes Zaidi seem a little petty, and I don’t think that’s the case. Especially since Bart has performed much better in the minors than Bailey has so far.
Your reading too much into text. Your reading it that way I don’t think anyone else has. If he said the same words out loud you could take them totally differently.
Sorry, should have come back sooner, so you probably won’t see this. But:
“Bart was drafted by the old regime, and Zaidi immediately came in and selected another catcher in round 1 of the next year’s draft. I’m sure Zaidi likes Bart well enough, but it was worth wondering whether this front office would move him even before Posey had his resurgence.”
I don’t think I’d interpret that any differently, had I heard him say that. The implication is clear. Bart, old regime, Zaidi, selected another catcher, worth wondering if (Zaidi) would move him.
What a waste of time
Demand your money back!
Baseball Trade Values says the Hosmer contract is worse than the Heyward contract.
And I still see a Scherzer extension as benefiting the team far more than it benefits Scherzer. Unless he has legitimate reason to believe he’s going to blow his arm out in the next 3 months.
Trade idea…
Donaldson to the Ray’s for a prospect a ptbnl. The ptbnl is Donaldson. Ray’s use him for the playoff run and then return him? They arent tied up in his salary… they make a run at the playoffs… twins get a prospect and then donaldson next year. everyone wins.
The rental fee will be a top 5 prospect
A professional baseball person like Steve… does this work or is a PTBNL need to be in the minors or not the 40-man? (I also realize this is likely a sarcastic comment/joke but I like the idea in other situations… like Trea to the dodgers or Kimbrel)
LOL
Re the timing of the M’s/Astros trade: I think that after agreeing on a trade neither team would want to risk an injury to one of the traded players.