The Mets announced they’ve reinstated infielder Javier Báez from the injured list. He’s getting the start at shortstop, hitting third, this afternoon against the Dodgers. Reliever Geoff Hartlieb has been optioned to Triple-A Syracuse to open active roster space.
Báez spent the minimal amount of time on the shelf after landing on the IL on August 13 (backdated to August 12). The team’s outlook has changed considerably in that short amount of time, as the Mets have gone 1-8 since last Friday, falling seven games back of the red-hot Braves in the National League East. Báez has gotten off to a slow start to his Mets tenure, hitting .171/.216/.343 over 37 plate appearances since being acquired from the Cubs at the trade deadline.
Francisco Lindor is not being activated today, although manager Luis Rojas told reporters (including Anthony DiComo of MLB.com) he’s expected back early next week. Rojas indicated yesterday that Lindor could return from the oblique strain that has kept him out of action since mid-July as soon as this weekend.
MLBTR Commenter
Somewhere Javy just swung at a 56-foot curveball
tstats
And a slider in the left handed batters box
Eatdust666
And a knuckleball 30 feet above his head.
itsmeheyhi
And a beach ball bouncing around the crowd.
sjwil1
while the guys who never made it get to make fun of him
tstats
Obviously, what else would we make fun of?
joeyrocafella
It’s a comment section about baseball, bro! What else are we supposed to comment on?
cubs2016
You’re a ‘bag.
Michael A Stabile
You can thank the so called hitting coach (golfing instructor) Quarterbaum for that.
Bill
Two doubles today.
Robrock30
He’s Baaaackkk! The Mets will still lose and Dodgers going for the Series Sweep 7 – 0. The Mets can’t play with the Big Boys and they return Home to face the Giants. Goodbye!
costergaard2
Ouch
Bill
Wrong.
tstats
Indeed aged poorly, metsfan22’s reaction must be ecstatic
Eatdust666
Yeah, it really aged terribly.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Was just over at fangraphs checking out the mets mWAR (i.e. missedWAR). To my not surprise it turns out the mets have already won the 2021 World Series. Twice!
So.
Good to see Baez back.
I find him to be a flawed yet fun/interesting player. & who wouldn’t like to see a Baez Lindor keystone as a baseball fan.
Sherm623
I thought mWar meant:
“Metsfan22 Whiny and Ridiculous “
No?
VonPurpleHayes
Hahah. 10/10.
tstats
whyhayzee
The Mets have really fallen way out of it but it was no small miracle that they were in first for as long as it lasted. They are a potentially better team than most realize but there are some ill conceived roster positions. They need a better game plan in the front office for building a more defensive minded team that can actually score runs. It’s not a tear down and rebuild, more of a tweaking. The DH would help. Davis can flat out hit but is challenged positionally. Nimmo is a serious on base guy. McNeil healthy can also flat out hit. Alonso is a stud. The problem is that none of these guys is anything special defensively, maybe Nimmo is OK. Lindor has to assimilate to the new league, he’s far from the first player to go through this process of struggling initially. Baez would make a nice keep if he doesn’t break the bank. Conforto is an enigma. Maybe not so good after all. I won’t even talk about the pitching because it all starts with deGrom. I will say that Megill is a nice surprise but I’m hoping he’s not another mirage like Peterson. So many good pitchers have been lost to injury, it is beyond assessment. Who knows what this team would do with deGrom, Carrasco, Walker, Stroman, Megill as a starting five? Poor design and injury have led this team to below .500, but it’s not a ship that can’t be righted.
ftasports
My favorite was the Mets fans saying they were the best team in NY. Lol.
whyhayzee
Well, they were the best team in New York. And then they weren’t. So there’s that.
Ducky Buckin Fent
2015 was quite awhile ago.
MetsFan22
They still are. Yankees would be in 4th place if they had the injures the Mets did… please don’t count that it’ll short stint where som of your players has covid….
Sideline Redwine
Your delusions provide a great deal of comic relief, thank you.
Ducky Buckin Fent
“please don’t count that it’ll short stint where som of your players had covid…” [sic]
????
Son.
You are far too young for day drinking. Shouldn’t you be at the park – ya know – *playing* baseball or football instead of posting about it on the internet?
I feel like you are wasting your youth, bro.
whyhayzee
My point was earlier in the season that the Mets were better than the yankees. But games don’t end after 5 innings and seasons don’t end in June.
Only fools dance before the fat lady sings.
Sherm623
They are not.
There are no “if-only” standings.
There is no credit for games missed due to injury. A loss is a loss – deal with it.
There are no ghost runners. Yet. Give Mannfred time.
VonPurpleHayes
@Ducky As an aside, I really miss day drinking. Haha.
tstats
Who wants to go day drink in LA during the WS?
Kg3636
This should be the auto reply to every Metsfan22 post:
“what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul”
Cosmo2
Oh boy, here we go
SonnySteele
If you aren’t the man in the Mr. Met costume, MetsFan22, you should be.
Ducky Buckin Fent
@Hayes –
From sometime in May through sometime in September I’m pretty much married to work: 40-50 (sometimes more) straight days, 80-90 (sometimes more) hour work weeks, etc.
The trade off is that the rest of the year I pretty much I coast. Meaning: day drinking will be back on the table soon.
Forewarned is twice warned…
Chief Two Hands
That is a long rant. You lost me at “small miracle.” The NL East is a terrible division, and the Mets took advantage of it for a bit…end of story. No miracle involved.
findingnimmo
It’s not a terrible division. It was ravaged by injury unlike any other. The fact that no team could find a way to pull ahead with trades and backups to the backups until the braves just did does not make it a bad division can’t always look at win loss to decide who a good team is when they are on fifth and sixth string players at times. Braves and Mets have had unprecedented injuries. The braves have found a way to deal better than the Mets. The Mets were decimated the first half of the year with 7 out of 8 starters hurt. Then when they all come back that 8th guy (Lindor) and their ace and best pitcher in the game get hurt. Wind got taken out of them and the rest is history. There are plenty of areas they can and have to address but to say the division is weak is a flat out joke.
MetsFan22
I don’t even think the brave are “handling” the injures better… we just have had to deal with more and more impactful ones.
VonPurpleHayes
deGrom injury is massive. Acuna Jr. injury is massive. If you want to give deGrom a slight edge even though Acuna plays everyday, then have at it, but other than deGrom, I can’t see how any sane human thinks the Mets had more impactful players hurt than the Braves.
Chief Two Hands
No, it’s a bad division.
VonPurpleHayes
@Chief Two Hands it’s a mediocre division. It doesn’t have a bottom tier team, buy it doesn’t have a top tier team. Although I’d argue that the Braves are on pace to be a top tier team.
MetsFan22
The Mets had 7 out of 8 players in their lineup out at one point… the overall impact of what the Mets lost is more than Braves. It’s not that hard to understand
MarlinsFanBase
Uh, the Mets have played worse with their regular guys in the lineup than when they had the scrubs.
Try another excuse.
jakec77
They have moat certainly not fallen “way out” of it, but they are in trouble.
They have 4 games left of a brutal 13 game stretch against Dodgers and Giants.
Then, they play 14 in a row against Nationals and Marlins.
In fact, once they get past the next 4 games they have the easiest remaining schedule in baseball.
So, they are certainly not dead yet on August 22nd.
Would they have any chance in the post-season if they got there? Without Degrom, they have the nominal “anyone can beat anyone” chance, but they would be be deservedly huge underdogs.
In a magical world where everyone is healthy, they are still an underdog, but they are the underdog that you want to avoid.
MetsFan22
Without Degrom they don’t really have a chance Imo. With Degrom they could win the whole thing.. assuming their team was healthy. But this doesn’t matter. They won’t make the playoffs as other teams had better injury luck.
Ducky Buckin Fent
“…as other teams had better injury luck.”
Not to mention that pesky problem of better records & teams too.
Chief Two Hands
Even with DeGrom, the Mets were just a solid team with one stellar pitcher, at best. Hardly a contender to win it all. There is a reason they dropped off so quickly. Despite what many fans believe the Mets are simply not that good, and that has been true all season.
whyhayzee
If you watched them play, they were good. Been watching them since 1964. I know good baseball when I see it. But I also know when a team won’t last 162 games. Unfortunately, that’s the 2021 Mets.
Every team can play good baseball. The difference is consistency and sustainability.
Sherm623
FanGraphs did a whole thing about “better injury luck” relative to a team’s “CWP” (coulda/woulda percentage)
Or not.
Joe It All
I’m fully convinced Metsfan22 was playing the violin on the Titanic in his previous life. His takes are delusional but he’s all in on the Mets so I have to give him credit for sticking to his guns even when all hope is completely lost.
whyhayzee
He never played very loud, always mezzo forte.
tstats
Close, he was the bassist and used the bass as a boat at the very end (him admitting that they won’t make the postseason)
Kg3636
Metsfann22 – just stop. You sound like a complete idiot. You have absolutely zero credibility on this site which is why people love to drag you in the comments. I’m all for pulling for your team but you have derailed. Get help.
Cosmo2
Teams with better records get into the playoffs and the Mets don’t? … well that’s not really fair is it? It’s all politics.
tstats
Manfred hurt lindor
MetsFan22
It’s not really fair at all. They got lucky with injures. I hope next year the whole Yankees team is injured so they are 500 like us. I also seriously doubt the Mets don’t finish 7-10 games over 500
MarlinsFanBase
@MetsFan22
deGrom is one player. This is MLB; not the NBA. In MLB, one player does not decide whether your team wins or not. If you stink without one player, you very likely suck with him. One guy does not make that much of a difference in MLB.
Stop with the excuses.
VonPurpleHayes
He’ll improve the Mets defense and give them some pop. Anything to get them out of this hole.
48-team MLB
Too late
LarryJ4
Everything is deGrom this deGrom that! He pitches once every 5 games! NOT EVERY GAME. And the continuous argument they’ve had the worse injuries is ludicrous! Compared to the Braves alone they haven’t had it the worst! At least you had your team ace. Soroka is and has been out all year. You don’t have a position player better than Acuña who is out all year (plus you were ahead in standings before he went down). PLUS arguments can be made for against the Mets don’t have a bat comparable to Ozuna being out pretty much all year also. Yeah Thor has been out all year but Cohen knew this before last offseason even started so that’s a mute point. You’ve had Stroman and Walker pretty much all year but they’re pitching beyond they’ve ever pitched before in regards to games and innings. Carrasco was a coin flip (as his whole career has been) as to what kind of season he would have. Yada yada yada as I could keep going but Mets dropping down the standings is more than enough than to keep pounding them down. Their flaws are greater than their strengths and a big mistake was Lindor and his contract (was declining BEFORE the contract) and it’s be an even Bigger mistake to keep Baez and his “one trick pony” bat that comes with a character not ideal for NY media.
User 355748524
Your underselling the loss of DeGrom ALOT.
Before I begin, it should be noted that the Mets offense has been one of the most underwhelming offenses this year. Even before they skidded, the bats were lukewarm at best. Now..
DeGrom pitched to a 1.08 ERA and the Mets went 11-4 in his starts.
Of those starts, only 3 of those starts did the offense score more then 4 runs!
The league RA/9 right now sits at 4.43.
If DeGrom got injured right before Opening Day and the team went with a pitcher whom probably would be league average or worse AND the team scored the same amount of runs that they did in DeGrom’s starts, the Mets would have went 3-12.
The Mets record following DeGrom’s last game?
45-37
If we go off the stats and hypothetical example?
37-45
So yeah, let’s not undersell what the guy brought to the team. Easy to oversell when you look at how much scoreless innings he gave to make up for one of the worst offenses in baseball.
Highly doubt that the team would have done better in trying to make up for his absence from the roster if the Rich Hill trade was the ‘best’ they would do.
Anyways
VonPurpleHayes
@Jacob Cook You’re ignoring the schedule the Mets had before the deGrom injury. This brutal stretch was coming with or without deGrom. Advanced metrics show us Mets aren’t really significantly worse now than they were earlier in the season. It’s just their pitching came down to Earth. Their offense was poor all year. Now I grant you deGrom is the ultimate stopper, and probably would’ve prevented a few sweeps here and there, but he wouldn’t have won every start because the team doesn’t hit. deGrom improves this team drastically, but he doesn’t put them in first place IMO. The Mets one significant winning streak (6 games) came against some of the worst teams in the league (Arizona, Baltimore…etc). The Mets are a bad road team. They’re bad against teams with a winning record. They’re just not there yet with or without deGrom.
alc47
I have to disagree when you say the Mets are a bad team, they’re a decent team imo with a good pitching staff but one of the worse offenses when it comes to batting with risp.
MetsFan22
And the injured team played against the bad schedule… now imagine our aaa team wasn’t playing and the real team got to play the east scedule??? Braves would probably be 5 out rn with the lead we would have gotten…
User 355748524
@VonPurpleHayes
Not going to argue that the Mets have strengths and flaws, regardless of DeGrom.
The loss of DeGrom, if I’m not incorrect, came right when the rest of the pitching started to decline from their performance early on in the season.
My argument was more in defense of DeGrom’s contribution to the team.
All in all, just really bad timing to lose him.
MarlinsFanBase
MetsFan22
Your Mets have played the Marlins with both your regulars and the scrub fillers. It has not made a difference. The Marlins beat both versions of the Mets and have been doing so since the Marlins got healthy last season. Marlins 9-4 against the Mets over the last 13 games.
Stop with the excuses.
billysbballz
Met fans always point the fingers at everything else than the obvious. They were poorly built, poor defense, there bats are streaky, rotation was always iffy with Stroman and Carrasco….. but keep blaming it on injuries when every team has had injuries including the Yankees who have had another rough year of injuries but they seem to make moves and keep battling!
Cosmo2
Not all Met fans. Most of us are pretty realistic.
alc47
Actually the defense besides Davis has been one of the best in the league this year. Both the pitching staff and defense have roughly been top 10 in the league. The biggest problem with the teams is the inability to score with RISP they’re the worst team I’ve ever seen with RISP and they have Nimmo who gets on base 40% of the time and 50% of the time when leading off an inning.
MetsFan22
Poor defense???? Lol that’s how Ik you don’t actually follow the Mets and just go by narratives
PutPeteinthehall
Mets are through for this year. Baez has regressed from almost gaining control of his talents. RBI leader a few season ago. Has stunk at the plate for the last two seasons. He has the ability but needs a hypnotist.
TradeAcuna
If people actually watched the Mets in the first half, it wouldn’t come as a surprise where they are now. Everything went their way including the infamous cheap Conforto led win.
Cosmo2
It’s funny, they did have an enormous amount of good luck on the field which was canceled out by bad injury luck. I say they are the epitome of “you are what your record says you are.”
MetsFan22
Good luck?? Lol
EasternLeagueVeteran
The mets will lose today to the Dodgers for all the reasons they are dropping like a stone to the bottom of the division. Ahead 3-2 in the 6th. Second and third no one out, villar strikes out, pillar takes an outside pitch and tries to pull it which he does to seager at short and out at home, then after Mazieka is i tentiobally walked, they let Stroman hit and he puts one back to
The pitcher who forces out another runner at home. 2 force plays at home one strike out. NO RUNS! No pinch hitter. Bas managing bad ate approaches. BAD BAD baseball.
whyhayzee
And yet …
whyhayzee
They won.
48-team MLB
Based on the recent trends, I can confirm two things.
1. Mets/Rays will NEVER happen.
2. Mets/White Sox will NEVER happen.
tstats
Mets Yankees MIGHT
Cosmo2
Pirates/Orioles in ‘22, book it!
UWPSUPERFAN77
Nice for Biaz ,but the Mets needed pitching at the deadline. They failed to get it and are done! DONE!
Cosmo2
They’d be done with or without adding a pitcher. Time to look forward to next year.
AshamedMethGoat
Lol…I guess the Dodgers felt charitible today. I mean, the Mets had to get one game off them, right?
VonPurpleHayes
Hey that was a big win. Beating the red-hot Dodgers at home is huge even if it’s just 1 game. If they can somehow sweep the Giants in NY, they’ll have taken 5 out of this brutal 13-game stretch. Braves will be playing Yankees. Phillies will be playing Tampa. Mets will be right back in this thing!
By the way, that’s obviously a joke. Mets are done. Phillies are done. Braves have their 4th division title.
VonPurpleHayes
I obviously mean 4th in a row. They’ve won a lot more than 4.
Bob333
Braves
Phillies
Marlins
Mutts
Washington
Get over it the Mutts going nowhere
MarlinsFanBase
Paging @WhyNot Paging @WhyNot.
Since the Mets started spiraling down, this guy has disappeared. That’s some good ole fan loyalty.