After debt and amortization the owners of the Atlanta Braves combined to only take home $20 million before taxes last season. That’s it. The Braves had a revenue of $578 million. $474 million of that went directly to operating costs. That led to $104 million in profit IF the team lives and played in a vacuum and didn’t have to pay for a stadium or anything else. Once the Braves paid their stadium costs and other “debt and amortization” all the Braves owners combined to only take home $20 million. Less than half of what Max Scherzer makes. Less than half of what Trevor Bauer makes to not even play. Less than what Chris Davis makes to not even play. That’s what you get if you finish top 2 in attendance and win the world series. After you pay off all your team’s debt and amortization, you and all the other owners get to split up $20 million. Then everyone in the world will call you greedy and say you are ruining baseball because they will look at the revenue and not even consider how much of that you are investing in the team or how little of that you are taking home. If you spend $558 million and only take home $20 million in the real world you are a stupid business person because you could make way more money elsewhere. If you do it in baseball you are considered exceptionally greedy for taking home $20 million. Especially by Max Scherzer. Who earns $43 million. But he’s not greedy. Even though $43 million is more than twice as much as $20 million.
Did they really need that new stadium? Or was it a business decision to sacrifice profits now in order to make more down the line? Once they pay off the debt on the stadium and surrounding area that they have built up they will probably be taking in nine figure profits annually. Because they “only” earned $30 million is not Scherzer’s fault and neither is this lockout. Downvote for you, Hammer.
As a Braves fan, yes, they did need it. Turner was aging fast, in a terrible location and hardly any entertainment/hospitality or food options within a good walking distance.
Who even remembers Turner Field? It was a forgettable two-thirds amputated Olympic stadium they rushed through and didn’t tailor-make it for the team spending the most time in it, not to mention the city not relinquish any control over the land they raked in cash for gamedays for the team to develop into the kind of experience they have now. Braves called the city’s bluff and did not re-sign lease and sought greener pastures in the suburbs which has meant more profits, more control and already in 5 years, more championships than ever achieved at Turner. Don’t shed a tear over Turner Field. Stop building disposable ballparks.
The Braves were purchased for $400 million dollars and are now worth just under 2 billion dollars. Get out of here with that. No one with half of a functioning brain is crying for the owners.
Thanks for answering my question, Anthony. I don’t follow the other sports closely at all and didn’t know NHL lost a season due to contract negotiations, as well.
I like the praising you chose with “inherent conflict”. It’s still jarring to experience inherent conflicts, even after many years of life. I suppose the conflicts over the last few years have affected me more than I recognized, even though I’m an observer in most of them.
Life is the best teacher and the hardest. One never knows where the lesson ends.
Seems a little delusional to see Schwarber as a potential MVP. The 145 wRC+ last season was nice, but that was 26 points over his next highest in a full season. Last season was his best, but he wasn’t even in the top 10 in OPS+. And 12.5 WAR over 7 seasons is not anywhere close to MVP caliber. That 3.1 last season was way behind the true MVP types, like Tatis with his 7.3. Even Bo Bichette, with the 10th highest WAR, had a 5.1.
tad – It’s cool you spent all that time on statistics, but this is where reading things other than statistics would have been beneficial to you.
Prior to last season Schwarber utilized Kevin Long to completely overhaul his stance, going from an upright position to a lower, squatting position while standing deeper in the box. He also started trying to drive the ball to the middle of the field more often.
So the poor numbers he put up prior to the batting changes have no relevance in trying to determine how he will perform this year.
BTV has Stephen Strasburg with the least trade value. Although I’m not sure how you would value Trevor Bauer, Marcell Ozuna or Felipe Vazquez in that trivia category.
Honestly. A 30+ HR, 100 RBI, season from Ozuna and his trade value looks a lot better. Bauer is such a toxic personality before all of this drama started that he never had trade value period. Vazquez probably gets traded nightly…
Ozuna has only hit 30 HR’s in a season once (although he was on pace for 49 in 2020). You are right that his trade value would look a lot better if that happened, because it sure can’t look any worse.
On Bauer, the way he was pitching he’d have had a ton of trade value if that nonsense hadn’t happened. Although realistically he would have opted out rather than being traded.
The owners and players were on third base in the negotiations, now they need the bring it home. They are close enough on most issues to make a deal. The small market owners who voted again’st the CBT are the real problem. Time to step up and spend some of the other teams money!
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After debt and amortization the owners of the Atlanta Braves combined to only take home $20 million before taxes last season. That’s it. The Braves had a revenue of $578 million. $474 million of that went directly to operating costs. That led to $104 million in profit IF the team lives and played in a vacuum and didn’t have to pay for a stadium or anything else. Once the Braves paid their stadium costs and other “debt and amortization” all the Braves owners combined to only take home $20 million. Less than half of what Max Scherzer makes. Less than half of what Trevor Bauer makes to not even play. Less than what Chris Davis makes to not even play. That’s what you get if you finish top 2 in attendance and win the world series. After you pay off all your team’s debt and amortization, you and all the other owners get to split up $20 million. Then everyone in the world will call you greedy and say you are ruining baseball because they will look at the revenue and not even consider how much of that you are investing in the team or how little of that you are taking home. If you spend $558 million and only take home $20 million in the real world you are a stupid business person because you could make way more money elsewhere. If you do it in baseball you are considered exceptionally greedy for taking home $20 million. Especially by Max Scherzer. Who earns $43 million. But he’s not greedy. Even though $43 million is more than twice as much as $20 million.
Did they really need that new stadium? Or was it a business decision to sacrifice profits now in order to make more down the line? Once they pay off the debt on the stadium and surrounding area that they have built up they will probably be taking in nine figure profits annually. Because they “only” earned $30 million is not Scherzer’s fault and neither is this lockout. Downvote for you, Hammer.
As a Braves fan, yes, they did need it. Turner was aging fast, in a terrible location and hardly any entertainment/hospitality or food options within a good walking distance.
Who even remembers Turner Field? It was a forgettable two-thirds amputated Olympic stadium they rushed through and didn’t tailor-make it for the team spending the most time in it, not to mention the city not relinquish any control over the land they raked in cash for gamedays for the team to develop into the kind of experience they have now. Braves called the city’s bluff and did not re-sign lease and sought greener pastures in the suburbs which has meant more profits, more control and already in 5 years, more championships than ever achieved at Turner. Don’t shed a tear over Turner Field. Stop building disposable ballparks.
The Braves were purchased for $400 million dollars and are now worth just under 2 billion dollars. Get out of here with that. No one with half of a functioning brain is crying for the owners.
But what they’re worth only turns into profit upon a sale.
Not true, they can borrow against the value and invest in other money-making enterprises.
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You’re talking accounting profits not cash flow which is closer to the better part of $100M.
moronic troll!
This isn’t writing it’s typing. If you had an Indian name it would be Man Who Hammer Keys Without Thinking.
Thanks for answering my question, Anthony. I don’t follow the other sports closely at all and didn’t know NHL lost a season due to contract negotiations, as well.
I like the praising you chose with “inherent conflict”. It’s still jarring to experience inherent conflicts, even after many years of life. I suppose the conflicts over the last few years have affected me more than I recognized, even though I’m an observer in most of them.
Life is the best teacher and the hardest. One never knows where the lesson ends.
Seems a little delusional to see Schwarber as a potential MVP. The 145 wRC+ last season was nice, but that was 26 points over his next highest in a full season. Last season was his best, but he wasn’t even in the top 10 in OPS+. And 12.5 WAR over 7 seasons is not anywhere close to MVP caliber. That 3.1 last season was way behind the true MVP types, like Tatis with his 7.3. Even Bo Bichette, with the 10th highest WAR, had a 5.1.
tad – It’s cool you spent all that time on statistics, but this is where reading things other than statistics would have been beneficial to you.
Prior to last season Schwarber utilized Kevin Long to completely overhaul his stance, going from an upright position to a lower, squatting position while standing deeper in the box. He also started trying to drive the ball to the middle of the field more often.
So the poor numbers he put up prior to the batting changes have no relevance in trying to determine how he will perform this year.
First player that came to my mind for least trade value was Anthony rendon or Stephen Strasburg
rendon is healthy now and already hittlng laser-like hits.
From home, on MLB: the Show…
BTV has Stephen Strasburg with the least trade value. Although I’m not sure how you would value Trevor Bauer, Marcell Ozuna or Felipe Vazquez in that trivia category.
Honestly. A 30+ HR, 100 RBI, season from Ozuna and his trade value looks a lot better. Bauer is such a toxic personality before all of this drama started that he never had trade value period. Vazquez probably gets traded nightly…
Ozuna has only hit 30 HR’s in a season once (although he was on pace for 49 in 2020). You are right that his trade value would look a lot better if that happened, because it sure can’t look any worse.
On Bauer, the way he was pitching he’d have had a ton of trade value if that nonsense hadn’t happened. Although realistically he would have opted out rather than being traded.
No comment on Vazquez.
The owners and players were on third base in the negotiations, now they need the bring it home. They are close enough on most issues to make a deal. The small market owners who voted again’st the CBT are the real problem. Time to step up and spend some of the other teams money!
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