Mets outfielders Brandon Nimmo and Mark Canha are both out of the lineup and likely headed to the injured list after testing positive for Covid-19, reports Mike Puma of the New York Post (Twitter link). Both players are asymptomatic. Newsday’s Tim Healey first reported this morning that tweets that a member of the Mets’ staff had tested positive and that a few players were deemed close contacts and undergoing testing.
Under the league’s 2022 health-and-safety protocols, players who test positive are subject to a 10-day absence from the club, though it’s possible to be reinstated in less time if the player has gone 24 or more hours without a fever, received a pair of negative PCR tests, and been given approval from a team physician and the MLB/MLBPA joint committee (a panel of one league-appointed and one union-appointed physician). Asymptomatic players are not subject to regular testing under the 2022 protocols, but it’s possible that Canha (who told reporters last year that he is vaccinated) and Nimmo were deemed close contacts of the staff member(s) in question.
With both Nimmo and Canha sidelined for at least the next few days, manager Buck Showalter tells reporters that outfielder Nick Plummer and infielder Matt Reynolds are with the team (Twitter link via Puma). Showalter also added that one member of his coaching staff tested positive (Twitter link via Healey).
Plummer is on the 40-man roster, but Reynolds was not previously on the 40-man. Neither Nimmo nor Canha will count against the 40-man roster while on the Covid-related injured list, however, making it easier to add Reynolds to the roster. The Mets have Jeff McNeil starting in left field, Travis Jankowski in center, Robinson Cano at second base and J.D. Davis at designated hitter today. Dominic Smith’s left-handed bat is somewhat surprisingly absent from the lineup against right-hander Zach Davies, but Showalter tells reporters that’s simply because he wanted to get Davis some at-bats amid a lengthy stretch of predominantly right-handed opponents (Twitter link via Puma).
Were they vaccinated?
Are we sure it’s not the flu
Pretty sure it is. People are sheeple though.
The irony. Anyone who uses the wordle sheeple is clearly not a unique individual.
“Look at the sheeple” he said following the exact verbiage of right wing pundits, Fox News, and r/conservative.
All the vaccination does is potentially make the symptoms less severe. I was fully vaccinated when I caught Covid from another fully vaccinated person, so it really makes no difference to teammates or others if you are vaccinated or not. It could only make the person who contracts it have more severe symptoms if they are not vaccinated. So there is nothing wrong or selfish about not being vaccinated. It’s a personal choice; a potentially risky one, but professional athletes in their 20’s & 30’s are a low risk group to contract severe symptoms. This is not a measles, mumps or polio vaccine that prevents the disease; it merely helps mitigate the symptoms.
Whenever a medical issue arises in my life, I make sure to log on to a baseball trade rumors site and look for random posts by someone named Dorothy Mantooth. Definitely the best source for reliable medical information.
I thought it was five days? Like everyone?
The ten-day number I cited is directly from a copy of the 2022 health and safety protocols we obtained prior to the season. That said, as I noted shortly thereafter, it’s not a strict ten days like it was last year. Players can exit isolation and return to the team with multiple negative tests and approval from the joint committee/team medical staff.
Thanks
Thank you for clarifying, as that is one of a few “fuzzy spots” in the MLB protocols and procedures related to COVID.
Why is MLB still testing?
Because the virus still exists.
The cold and flu still exist as well. Are players being tested for these?
According to the CDC, 99 Americans died of the flu in the past three weeks. In the same time period, 2,820 died of Covid. So, in that time period, people who contracted Covid were nearly 30 times as likely to die as were people who contracted influenza.
361 Americans died of Covid yesterday.
1,014,902 Americans have died of Covid since it arrived in 2020.
As for the common cold:
“Common colds are usually short lived, lasting a few days, with a few lingering symptoms lasting longer, especially cough. Symptoms peak within 1 to 3 days and generally clear by 1 week, although cough often persists. Although they cause no mortality or serious morbidity, common colds are responsible for considerable discomfort, lost work, and medical costs.” – National Institutes of Health
“they cause no mortality or serious morbidity”
Correction: In that three-week time period, nearly 30 times (28.5 times, specifically) as many people died from Covid as died from influenza.
This week there were 3,902 flu cases
Last week there were 3,942 flu cases
The week before that there were 2,947 flu cases
Roughly 11,000 flu cases on average.
Per the cdc website.
In that same time frame covid
This weeks 7 day covid average is 31,391
Last weeks 7 day average was 31,391
The previous weeks was 25,732
Roughly 90,000 covid cases
Also. What is the age breakdown of the flu and covid deaths? Why arent those included in your breakdown?
Whats the harm in testing for flu and cold? Thought we are trying to prevent spread of viruses for “health” reasons?
Deborah Birx, MD, coordinator of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said this when asked about people who have COVID-19 but die from preexisting conditions: “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.”
Those numbers are inflated … so you can get shot in the head but if you had covid it was a covid death.
“Unfortunately, many people can test positive for COVID-19 for weeks or even months, but there is good news: people are not likely to be contagious for that long, even if they test positive, and therefore are unlikely to transmit the virus to others. ”
flus go away in a couple of days depending on how bad it is covid could be testing positive for months so of those 90k people how many are the same people being retested. I would be more curious on new cases and not how many positive tests there are. Also how many of us actually go get tested for when we have the flu vs going to the corner store and just get nyquil or whatever your preference otc medicine especially with every website and dr office putting out this is covid vs flu symptoms flyers.
You ‘forgot’ the rest of it:
There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now we are still recording it and we will I mean the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection the intent is right now that those if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.
When was the last time you heard of a country closing its borders and ordering a lockdown to prevent the spread of influenza or the common cold?
Influenza and the common cold only attack the respiratory system: the sinuses, throat and lungs. Covid is different:
‘The coronavirus that causes COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, can spread within days from the airways to the heart, brain and almost every organ system in the body, where it may persist for months, a study found.
‘In what they describe as the most comprehensive analysis to date of the virus’s distribution and persistence in the body and brain, scientists at the U.S. National Institutes of Health said they found the pathogen is capable of replicating in human cells well beyond the respiratory tract.
* * * * *
‘The focus on multiple brain areas is especially helpful, said Al-Aly at the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System.
‘”It can help us understand the neurocognitive decline or ‘brain fog’ and other neuropsychiatric manifestations of long COVID,” he said. “We need to start thinking of SARS-CoV-2 as a systemic virus that may clear in some people, but in others may persist for weeks or months and produce long COVID — a multifaceted systemic disorder.”’
fortune.com/2021/12/26/covid-19-organs-brain-fog-l…
Don’t you know that heart inflammation from Covid kept Eduardo Rodriguez off the mound in 2020?
Please stop listening to ignorant people, opportunistic demagogues and crackpots and start reading the scientific literature if you want to really understand this disease.
Asking the age of people that died of Covid is meaningless unless you intend to limit your exposure to persons of a single age group, all of whom are in perfect health. If you’re unvaccinated and carrying a high viral load, you’re a danger to the elderly and to immunocompromised people of all age groups.
I don’t know where you live, but where I live Covid victims were dying so fast that there were refrigerated trailer trucks parked outside the city hospitals to receive the corpses because the morgues and funeral homes were overflowing and couldn’t handle them. A mass grave on Hart Island was receiving 25 bodies a day at the outset of the pandemic.
Did you ever hear of something like that from the seasonal flu or the common cold? No, you never did. As one overworked ER nurse said to a reporter: “This is NOT the flu! This disease is a monster!”
Read the article: “a few players were deemed close contacts and undergoing testing.”
It was stated in the article. The players were in close contact to an employee that contracted Covid. So they had to get tested. They no longer test for Covid unless your unvaccinated. Truthfully if your unvaccinated your supposed to be tested regularly. But a lot of organizations ignore it now.
The CDC currently lists 5 diseases on its US based list of outbreak diseases. Is MLB checking these as well?
Did you look into that as part of your “research”? Do tell us what MLB is doing and how it is going because it appears they have largely handled COVID well when considering the # of players, managers, staff, etc in close quarters every day. For once, MLB did something pretty right.
Also in your “research”…..did those outbreak diseases cause 82m+ infections and 1m+ deaths in the USA in the past two years? Science is like gravity, just because you don’t believe it doesn’t invalidate it’s existence and impact. If you jumped off of a cliff bc you didn’t believe in gravity, what would happen?
Yep, and Science these days is like a cult. You show people and wave around a diploma and a “certification” and you give people no choice but to believe and do whatever you tell them to. If a Scientist with a PhD and a MD and all these certifications told you to drink the cyanide-laced Kool-Aid and you didn’t believe in Jonestown, what would happen?
Science is merely a collection of ideas from data developed and verified by millions of graduate and beyond level students and researchers at thousands of academic institutions around the world over decades and centuries and millennia and yet people will watch Dr. Odds or some yahoo on YouTube to get their information because how can you trust science when it’s obviously a cult of run on sentence writers commenting on a baseball internet site.
Let’s game this one out… You’re sick AF. Been coming out both ends for days. You roll up to the “DOCTOR, allegedly” Dude has the PhD, MD, BA, etc. All these credentials and “certifications.”
Says, “Steinbrenner2728, I have your cure! Take these pills twice a day with meals and you’ll be just fine!”
Do you:
1) say “F YOU AND YOUR BOUGIE PAPERWORK, DR, if that even is your real title. DO YOU EVEN KNOW JONESTOWN?!!?” and throw the pills out the window
or
2) Nah, there is no other option–you do 1. At least that’s what you’re implying here.
So good luck with that.
Steinbrenner2728…..you misunderstand science. Science isn’t political nor is it a cult. It is a collection of ideas that have been developed based on rigorous and repeated study. Scientists point to the data and go “HERE IS THE PROOF”…..unlike the fringe “I did my own research!” people who distort, misrepresent, and mischaracterize even basic concepts to fit their narrative.
My frustration w. players like Nimmo and Canha are that they trust the Ortho surgeon if they shredded their knee and they’d trust an oncologist if they had cancer, but when it comes to some of the brightest minds across the world who came together because of a historic pandemic….they dismiss them. That’s not rational, nor does it have anything to do with actual science, but it has everything to do w. political bias (and some would argue “culting thinking”). I know if I relied upon my body for my livelihood, I’d want to trust the foremost experts and not some rando on YouTube that claims to have information that millions of academics and researchers somehow missed or purposefully buried. It’s magical thinking, not reality. …and no amount of “aww shucks” or “I did my own research” from Nimmo or Canha changes that….they are being selfish and putting others in more dangerous positions.
Was only a matter of time until Nimmo missed time. Didn’t have covid as the reason though.
Unfortunately Nimmo’s biggest challenge will be staying on the field, whether it be for COVID or injuries.
Oh…ok
Can we stop this non-sense already?
I like how we got the world to stop caring about excess deaths by convincing half the population covid is overblown or at the start of this pandemic, fake.
Thank God no of you work in a hospital and I will leave it at that.
nothing makes you feel more regret than reading one of these covid comment sections.
and people wonder why they turned off chat regarding covid topics.
These people probably just got off complaining/debating in their CNN/FOX forums and come here to lash out as well.
Stop the political BS.
this is about the least political comment in this section
Nobody cares about this BS any longer. Stop reporting to us who has the flu/common cold.
Nimmo and Canha are both temporarily off the 40-man roster, while Matt Reynolds is temporarily added. Nick Plummer is up from Triple-A as a result of this.
Setting aside the “I don’t care about this, therefore no one cares’ fallacy (which people erroneously use in far more than just Covid cases, of course), there are actual baseball implications to this. Thus, it is on the site and such situations will continue to be on the site.
My man the internet is a big place.
If you don’t care about baseball roster moves and the reasons for them, maybe this ain’t the place for you.
Dear god, I will go pray for them NOW at mass
*Mass
Another COVID spike in some areas. So it could hit more teams. But again, it’s not about you having COVID. It’s about giving it to someone who can’t afford to have COVID. Intelligent behavior stops the spread. Don’t get it and don’t give it to anyone else. That’s what stops it.
Turning off the msm news stops the spread
Closing your eyes makes the world get dark.
Intelligence and also being selfless stops the spread.
When I see the persons that walk around with no mask and not social-distancing, I see selfishness. I see people who say that they don’t want anyone disrespecting their rights, but then they want to disrespect our rights of not wanting anyone in our faces or up close to us. I see the people who don’t care that their potential infection may pass onto someone else that can die from it. I wonder how those same individuals would feel if they had to be informed of who the person is that died from the infection they passed onto. It’s selfishness. Keep fighting your battle of not wanting to wear a mask, not wanting to be vaccinated, and not wanting to social-distance. When someone you know dies from Covid or complications from it, remember that it most likely was you that did it.
Pathetically stupid take.
If Plummer blows up in his cup o coffee. Cardinal Nation will lose it.
Why is this any of my business? Let them play again.
So they were diagnosed with the common cold
Common cold? Not a chance, I had covid, survived it but still have lingering effects despite not having any health issues before covid. My sympptoms were incredibly worse than a common cold. I guess ignorance is bliss.
Mets bein’ Mets
Good point. Only Mets personnel will get Covid
Even I found the comment stupid. I know the feeling as a Marlins fan from what we endured in 2020.
Do you always like your own comments? Pathetic.
ROCHESTER RABBITS
And the first place Mets win easily. The hound on the mound gets it done. Lindor with two pokes. Yup.
And against juggernaut teams like the Nats and D-Backs. It’s like last season all over again.
What is their Magic Number now?
It’s April. Relax doofus.
I come to see baseball comments and see this stuff. Wow!
Hope both players get well and it doesn’t affect anyone around them directly or by extension.
Now to my Nimmo bash. In the 5 to 10 days he’ll be out, that only reduces his swings taken by 3 if 5 days or 7 if 10 days out.
You’re a degenerate. Stick to the typical garbage analysis you spew on Miami everyday.
NYM best two offensive performers so far….
Huh? Alonso leads the league in RBI and Lindor just homered from both sides of the plate today. Marte is crushing the ball (thanks for the gift Miami). Nimmo and Canha have been great.
Scherzer got all the headlines, but the entire team is showing just how underrated the signings on offense were. And how badly the team underperformed last year.
And on April 15th, the relevance is?
That Nimmo & Canha are NOT the NYM best 2 offensive performers so far. COMPLETELY relevant to the topic, which is about those 2 going on the IL.
@Bill M
I agree that the mention of the players is relevant to the topic, but that wasn’t what was emphasized by @GarryHarris above. He worded it like one of @MetFan22’s “missed WAR” excuses.
And obviously I agree that Canha and Nimmo are not the Mets best 2 offensive players. To me, from an opposing fan’s view, I fear McNeil and Marte’s bats. Any idiot can know the threat Alonso brings to the plate every time. Lindor is your big contract guy for a reason and a past history that can’t be ignored until what happened last year becomes his new norm. Canha is a solid, supporting bat and player on offense, but not your best or even top 4 or 5. You all know my opinion of Nimmo’s bat, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that I consider him your team’s 2nd worse offensive starting player ahead of McCann – and that is due to that he is useless when you pound the strikezone to make him swing, and considering that he has nice speed, the fact that he has no running game and makes many baserunning mistakes, he’s one of the dumber base runners in MLB, which makes him nearly useless there with him only being able to score when his teammates get hits that allow him to easily advance two bases or score all the way from 1st because he doesn’t help manufacture runs.
And my main knock on this poster’s message is that we’re only about 10 games in. Other than trying to get a decent start and avoid a disastrous start, nothing really warrants much concern or celebration (like this poster’s comment or the other poster that refers to the Mets as the “first place Mets”).
We at the Miami Marlins do not claim @MarlinsFanBase or his “hot takes” as one of our own.
The real question is, do you hit the “like” button on your own posts?