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Guardians Sign Ben Lively To Major League Deal

By Steve Adams | December 12, 2023 at 9:22am CDT

The Guardians announced Tuesday that they’ve signed right-hander Ben Lively to a one-year, Major League contract. Zack Meisel of The Athletic reports that Lively will be guaranteed just north of the league minimum on the deal, earning a $750K salary in 2024. Lively is represented by Meister Sports Management.

Lively, 31, spent the 2022-23 seasons with the Reds after a three-year run with the Samsung Lions of the Korea Baseball Organization. The entirety of that 2022 campaign was spent in Triple-A, but Lively was selected to the Majors early last season and pitched 88 2/3 innings for the Reds, starting a dozen games and making another seven relief appearances. He posted an unsightly 5.38 ERA in that time, although a disproportionate amount of the damage against him came in one start on Aug. 1, when the Reds left him out there to take an eye-popping 13-run shellacking at the hands of the Cubs.

Lively’s 20.6% strikeout rate was a bit south of the league average this past season and he averaged just 90.9 mph on his fastball. However, he also issued walks at a tidy 6.5% clip, and the Guards are probably less concerned with his 2.03 HR/9 mark than other teams might’ve been, given the spacious nature of their home park. Lively still seems likely to struggle with the long ball at times, but pitching half his games at Progressive Field should help mitigate some of those struggles.

The signing of a Lively is in some ways out of character for the Guardians, who haven’t inked a free-agent starting pitcher to a Major League contract since signing Gavin Floyd to a one-year deal nearly a decade ago. Lively could well be viewed as a swingman and may not even be a lock to make the Opening Day roster, however, as he also has a minor league option remaining. Cleveland has been able to eschew free agent starting pitching entirely for the better part of a decade, thanks largely to the organization’s nearly unrivaled pitching development prowess.

Lively’s role with the Guards likely depends on how the remainder of their offseason shakes out. As it stands, he’d likely serve as a swingman or sixth starter behind Shane Bieber, Tanner Bibee, Triston McKenzie, Logan Allen and Gavin Williams. However, it’s also quite possible that Cleveland trades Bieber between now and Opening Day, as is the organization’s tendency with notable starting pitchers who are approaching the open market.

For instance, Bieber will reach free agency next winter, and the team has previously traded top starters like Corey Kluber, Carlos Carrasco, Trevor Bauer and Mike Clevinger before any qualified to become free agents. Trades of Bieber, closer Emmanuel Clase (on whom the Guardians are reportedly willing to listen) and/or other members of the roster could net further competition for the back of the rotation, as could future free-agent signings. For now, however, Lively joins that mix. No team makes it through a full season with only five starters anyhow, and both Bieber and McKenzie missed substantial time in 2023 due to elbow injuries. Even if he opens the year as a long reliever, Lively has a good chance to start games at some point, as injuries arise.

While it’s commonplace for players returning from the KBO or from NPB to have clauses in their contracts allowing them to become free agents despite lacking six years of MLB service time, MLBTR has confirmed that that’s not the case with Lively, because of the fact that he’d already spent a year back in the big leagues. As such, he’s now under Guardians control via arbitration for another five seasons. If he spends the entire year in the Majors, he’d likely be arbitration-eligible next offseason as a Super Two player. Lively is currently at 1.133 days of MLB service time, and this year’s Super Two cutoff was 2.118. It’s feasible he could spend a week or two in the minors and still reach Super Two status, but he’d be right on the bubble with even a brief stay in the minors.

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49 Comments

  1. Fraham_

    2 years ago

    How lively

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    • User 3044878754

      2 years ago

      He’s taking Bieber’s spot on the 40 man when they trade him for Cash. We’ll have the most non players named Cash in baseball history.

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  2. HighOnPineTar

    2 years ago

    Blake Lively would have been a more marketable signing tbh.

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    • 99CaptainJudge99

      2 years ago

      Yamamoto is next

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  3. clrrogers

    2 years ago

    Why would they sign him to a major league deal? He’s a minor league talent.

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    • Chuck from Uniontown

      2 years ago

      They wanted the guy enough to make sure he wouldn’t go elsewhere looking for a better path to the majors.

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    • For Love of the Game

      2 years ago

      Some teams have paid $10 mill. to similar “talent” albeit with a longer MLB track record. He’ll probably shuttle between Columbus and Cleveland and won’t break the bank even if he doesn’t work out.

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    • Big whiffa

      2 years ago

      He barely makes league minimum and they can send him down. Nice signing. Only cost a 40 man spot

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  4. Old York

    2 years ago

    Why?

    kwERA: 4.14

    GBkwERA: 4.19

    Pitching metrics are also pretty terrible too. Seems like a AAA guy at best right now.

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    • norcalguardiansfan

      2 years ago

      I think he won’t make the 25 man roster in the spring. He’s emergency help if things go ass over teakettle in the starting rotation.

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      • Dotnet22

        2 years ago

        I never understood that expression.

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        • norcalguardiansfan

          2 years ago

          My anglophile Canadian relatives always used it and I just think it is funny. I always assumed that it was an old British expression that meant that if your butt is overtop of the teakettle something is really wrong. I also associate it with sailing because my uncle loved the open water and often used nautical sayings. Again, I imagine being below and the boat goes inverted. Your ass would be over the teakettle. No idea if my assumptions come even close to the truth.

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        • For Love of the Game

          2 years ago

          We Americans typically use “ass over applecart,” and that doesn’t make sense either!

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        • CO Guardening

          2 years ago

          Ass over teakettle, I think, means flying upside down. In WW2 some planes had steam thrusters, and the phrase flying teakettle came to be. So if you were ass over teaketle, you were flying upside down, or in for a bad time.

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  5. Bobcastelliniscat

    2 years ago

    He had a couple good starts for the Reds last year. He is not bad for a long man.

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  6. Monkey’s Uncle

    2 years ago

    If takes his foot off the rubber to hold a runner, is that a step Lively or a Lively step?

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  7. parksy78

    2 years ago

    C’mon now MLBTR! That’s 3 articles in a row that’s aren’t about Ohtani. Do better!

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    • Bob Sacamano 310

      2 years ago

      Actually, it’s only one if you don’t count the morning update one lol

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    • Old York

      2 years ago

      @parksy78

      I can’t wait till we see a true two-way player come to the MLB, such as player that is a pitcher and a centerfielder. Those days care coming. Ohtani only started the ball rolling on it. We’re going to have guys throwing 100mph one day and then throwing guys out at home from deep center the next day.

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      • Bob Sacamano 310

        2 years ago

        I was thinking about this the other day. A lot of guys that get drafted do both in college or high school. Wonder if some of the guys who are great at hitting and pitching will try to develop as the next Ohtani and demand any drafting team try it or don’t draft.

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        • Old York

          2 years ago

          @Bob Sacamano 310

          I think MLB is too stubborn to do so. I’d think the player will probably develop in Korea or Japan and then come to the U.S.

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        2 years ago

        Lorensen did it for a while with the Reds.

        They forced Hunter Greene to give up his shortstop days though.

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        • Old York

          2 years ago

          @This one belongs to the Reds

          Why isn’t he making $100M/year?!?!

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      • Letsplaytwotomorrow

        2 years ago

        Rrrrrrright

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  8. Dbird777

    2 years ago

    I liked Lively here last year, low-key good signing for the Guards

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  9. Mikey P

    2 years ago

    He wasn’t terrible last year all the time. Granted he was sometime. I think guardians will probably use him limited and smart where the reds had to sacrifice him with all the injury’s to the staff. I’d gamble to say he gives positive value in that contract by end of year.

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  10. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    His fastball may not be Lively, but he knows how to pitch with what he has. So a good long relief/ spot starter option for them.

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  11. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    Good for Bebo.

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  12. In nurse follars

    2 years ago

    Org depth, not on 40 (yet).

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    • Steve Adams

      2 years ago

      He is on the 40-man. It’s a Major League deal.

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      • In nurse follars

        2 years ago

        Opening day 40. Winter 40 doesn’t really mean much, does it?

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  13. cguy

    2 years ago

    I’d prefer the Reds had signed him & dfa Legumina. He’s a decent #7 or #8 sp option and can be sent down.to the minors when needed. Quality depth and Ben knows who he is and does his job. Good move by Cleveland.

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    • cguy

      2 years ago

      Alas, just like Vlad Gutierrez, Justin Dunn, Buck Farmer, Derek Law, Harrison Bader, Nick Senzel and now Ben Livelyl; Krall has moved on to a better roster for 2024.

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  14. Touch 'em all Joe

    2 years ago

    Shohei is worth approximately 1000 Ben Livelys

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  15. Halo11Fan

    2 years ago

    For a minute there I thought it was Blake Lively and I was immediately going to become a Guardians fan.

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  16. One Bite Hotdog

    2 years ago

    Here I was thinking that their off-season plans were rather lifeless.

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  17. Bill nd

    2 years ago

    The counter to the Ohtani signing.

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  18. King123

    2 years ago

    Those who watched Reds games last year know how well Lively pitched and how important he was to that staff. He got hurt and of course his ERA ballooned up but he looked like a quality 3-5 starter for a few months. Bell wouldn’t let him pitch for more than 5 innings like he does with all his starters however.

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  19. CKinSTL

    2 years ago

    Not an exciting deal but this seems like a good value on a durable, veteran arm you can beat up and shuttle between Cleveland and Columbus.

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  20. drasco036

    2 years ago

    I didn’t think Lively was all that bad for the Reds last season outside a handful of starts.
    I couldn’t believe the Reds left him in against the Cubs, that start alone cost him a couple million dollars, prior to that he was kind of a “feel good” story, pitching to a 3.78 ERA, after that game his era jumped to over 5. I am a Cubs fan and I was uncomfortable watching that game

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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      2 years ago

      Three words: burned out bullpen.

      He had to take one for the team. He was one of many last year who had to do that due to the failure of the front office.

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  21. tomyo10

    2 years ago

    They have to have another move or 3 in order to get Hedges on the 40 man roster. Bieber going somewhere soon?

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  22. Windowpane

    2 years ago

    Dumpster diving. Pathetic.

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    • Avory

      2 years ago

      More pathetic analysis by our astute fans…

      Reply
  23. solaris602

    2 years ago

    Not a bad signing considering CLE went all the way to the bottom of their SP depth chart last year. I will forever hold the Austin Hedges signing against them. They still need to address their biggest need which is a corner OF who can drive in runs. I assume that’s what they’ll get back in a Bieber trade, but nothing is a given for this franchise when it comes to money.

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    • Avory

      2 years ago

      Nothing is a given when it comes to Cleveland’s deplorable baseball fans, who insist on jumping on signings like this one and Hedges in order to cling to their tired, bitter narratives.

      Reply
  24. copper ridge

    2 years ago

    I’d love to meet his sister, Blake!

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  25. Indianfan

    2 years ago

    A typical bottom of the barrel Indians (Guardians) signing. Pitiful.

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    • Avory

      2 years ago

      Yeah, just so terrible, just awful. Guess you don’t read much MLBTR, huh? If you did, you’d see every team in the major leagues tinkers around with depth moves just like this one. But why bother seeing the sense in anything, when it’s just easier to be the typical whiner CLE fan? Carry on…

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