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Cubs Considering Walker Buehler, Further Rotation Help

By Mark Polishuk | December 7, 2024 at 12:42pm CDT

The Cubs’ two-year, $29MM deal with Matthew Boyd became official earlier today, locking in the veteran southpaw as the newest member of the Wrigleyville rotation.  Even with this signing now on the books, Patrick Mooney and Sahadev Sharma of The Athletic report that the Cubs remain open to adding more starting pitching, and Walker Buehler is still “on their radar.”

Boyd lines up as Chicago’s fourth starter, behind Shota Imanaga, Justin Steele, and Jameson Taillon.  Javier Assad is the favorite for the fifth starter role, with the likes of Jordan Wicks, Hayden Wesneski, and Ben Brown also in the mix for starts, plus top prospect Cade Horton also on the verge of his MLB debut.  While this seems like plenty of depth already, the “you can never have enough pitching” mantra may apply, as Wicks, Brown, and Horton all missed a lot of time in 2024 due to injuries.

Acquiring yet another experienced starter via trade or free agency would allow the Cubs to make Assad its top depth arm, and it can be argued that Assad is overqualified for such a role given his solid 3.40 ERA over his 294 career Major League innings.  Since injuries are basically inevitable, however, it stands to reason that Assad would still get some degree of rotation work.  Beyond Assad, one of the other pitchers could potentially become a trade chip if the Cubs feel secure in the number of starters on hand.

The Cubs haven’t exactly been pinching pennies on the rotation during Jed Hoyer’s time as president of baseball operations, considering Taillon’s four-year, $68MM deal and Imanaga’s four-year, $53MM deal.  However, Chicago has trended away from shopping at the very top of the pitching market to instead pursue more mid-range or shorter-term contracts like Taillon, Imanaga, Boyd, or (in the past) Marcus Stroman or Drew Smyly.

Buehler would also likely fall into this category, as it is widely assumed that the righty will sign a one-year pact as something of a pillow contract in the wake of a disappointing 2024 season.  While that disappointment was certainly tempered by a couple of great postseason outings and a championship ring with the Dodgers, Buehler’s regular season saw him post a 5.38 ERA with a host of below-average secondary metrics over 75 1/3 innings.

Since Buehler didn’t pitch at all in 2023 while recovering from Tommy John surgery, it seems possible that he could perform better in 2025 now that he has shaken off the rust.  The baseball world hasn’t forgotten how dynamic Buehler looked prior to that TJ procedure, and this kind of upside potential has led to interest from not just the Cubs, but also such publicly known suitors as the Braves, Yankees, Mets, and Athletics.

As Mooney and Sharma note, it shouldn’t be considered a lock that Buehler will receive just a one-year contract, given how several pitchers have already exceeded expectations in the first month of free agency.  As such, Mooney/Sharma feel the Cubs could prefer to avoid the free agent market and instead pivot to adding a starter (or a reliever, or lineup help) in a trade.  News on that front might not develop until Juan Soto signs, which would then perhaps clear the Cubs’ path in terms of finding a potential trade partner for one of Cody Bellinger or Seiya Suzuki.

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  1. holycow16

    6 months ago

    Sign him.

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    • Edub23

      6 months ago

      I literally just called this in my post in the Dansby article on here.
      Cubs need to get Walker as their #1 starter.
      I won’t sign up for the GM job lol.
      I’ll stick with fantasy baseball instead 😉

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  2. ray1

    6 months ago

    Don’t trade Seiya.

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    • rondon

      6 months ago

      The Seiya trade is more “insider” BS. It makes no sense and is probly just more clickbait.

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  3. Acoss1331

    6 months ago

    Yes, Walker proved he was back in form during the playoffs and depending on the money and years, it might be a short-term deal for him to go back on the market next season.

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  4. alproof

    6 months ago

    Mets need Buehler, Soto, Crochet, Burnes, Winker, Santander, and to play Sproat, Jett, Mauricio, Gilbert, Acuna, and Clifford & Benge in ‘26.

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    • cwsOverhaul

      6 months ago

      @alproof: If Mets land Crochet, a couple of the young guys you mention likely will be headed to the WSox.

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  5. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    6 months ago

    PCA has only hit ok at MLB level for a few months, crazy talk to get rid of Hoerner, Suzuki or Belli. Cubs have Steele, Shota, Taillon and Assad. Boyd, Horton, Brown and Wicks around the corner. No need to get a quality starter unless they can lobby for Roki. Sign a catcher, closer and one more middle reliever- say Treinan and Minter, and keep the starting pitchers and position players from last year. Cubs need to act like a big market team.

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    • kidbryant

      6 months ago

      Hoerner trade is to make space for Matt Shaw.

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  6. Unclemike1526

    6 months ago

    I suggested it would be a good idea before. I still think it would. You can’t really have enough arms. Especially in today’s MLB. Boyd and Buehler both could either relieve or start in a pinch. I still think it’s a great idea in theory.

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  7. Alan53

    6 months ago

    Horton did not pitch after May because of an injury that has not been explained. Expect a TJ surgery announcement in spring training. Wicks and Brown are also hurt. Wesneski finished the season but he tends to get hurt after a few outings; he can stay healthy as long as he doesn’t have to, you know, pitch. Count on none of those guys. The Cubs need pitching.

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    • Unclemike1526

      6 months ago

      Horton pulled a Lat muscle. It was explained. He had a setback later in his rehab and was shut down for the rest of the year, Nobody ever had TJ surgery from a Lat muscle pull that I ever heard of Dr. Vinnie Boom Batz.

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  8. desertbull

    6 months ago

    Maybe they are going to include Assad or another pitcher in a Bellinger trade.

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    • Unclemike1526

      6 months ago

      I doubt it would be him. In fact I would be surprised if it was Brown, Assad, Horton, or Wiggins. Anybody else I could see. Plus some of the bullpen arms would be safe too.

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    • Yankee Clipper

      6 months ago

      I don’t know that they need to include anyone, really. As I said before, I think the Yankees/Cubs line up well with each other for a trade. I think some version of a Bellinger-for-Stroman (or perhaps Cortez) could be accomplished for both teams’ goals.

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      • Unclemike1526

        6 months ago

        Stop trying to send crap here. We let go of Stroman for a reason. He’s yours now. If it’s a choice between Bellinger or Stroman we keep Belli. Nobody needs or wants Stroman anymore.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          6 months ago

          I’m not, which is why I said (or perhaps Cortez). To my understanding, the Cubs want out of the Bellinger commitment, so that will come at a cost, naturally. It may mean you get someone back you may not like.

          That is unless you are the Cubs GM, which is entirely possible. If that’s true, we need to have a different discussion.

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        • Jiggs

          6 months ago

          Great Post. Stroman is a clubhouse cancer.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          6 months ago

          Stroman is not that bad. He just has a huge, huge ego. But Chicago is not taking him back. They would sooner gamble on Monty.

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        • Rexhudler86

          6 months ago

          @unclemike1526. What about detmers for bellinger.

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        • Cmurphy

          6 months ago

          I thought Stroman opted out, not the other way around.

          Though I agree Cubs don’t want him back.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          6 months ago

          CMurphy

          Correct. Stroman opted out. Team rejoiced. Stroman was mostly liked in Chicago until he complained that team was not negotiating with him and then got injured and sucked. For a while, he was pitching at an elite level. I like Stroman even though he has a huge ego. But he will not be going to Toronto, Mets or Cubs. Most likely Yankees retain him in 2025.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          Stroman is just trading a bad contract for a worse contract. Who needs that? The Cubs already have 7 starters better than Stroman and more if they can get Crochet, Sasaki or Buehler. Cubs are trying to protect Imanaga and might go 6 man or at least have options to keep him on the rest he’s used to. Counsell did it last year. It worked out pretty well until everyone went down at the same time.

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        • Alan53

          6 months ago

          It’s hilarious that the Yankees are trying to give us Stroman back.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          A LH with a 7.00 ERA. The Cubs have Wicks who is better than that and probably will be at Iowa. So what do you think? Plus the Cubs have 3 LH starters already.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          6 months ago

          Actually, none of that is true. I merely made a proposal that included more than (ie, Cortez), but based on several media reports, including the very one on which you’re commenting. I wasn’t opining on whether the Cubs fans would want him back.

          What’s hilarious is the fact that you think you can dictate on what terms you get rid of a co tract the Cubs desperately want to get rid of.

          You’re right about one thing though, the “garbage for good” trade is here… it’s just your perspective that’s incredibly skewed.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          Clipper- There’s a difference between WANTING to trade a contract and HAVING to move a contract. The Cubs have plenty of money left to spend WITH Bellinger. There’s no pressing NEED to move Bellinger. Stroman is through. He’s not coming here. The Cubs are just looking for extra money to chase bigger game. They can afford Bellinger. It’s just a perception of worth. It’s not like he’s useless. If you want him, Pay up. Especially when you lose Soto. The tears will be crocodile sized.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          6 months ago

          Ok, I shouldn’t have to explain this, but when they make it known they strongly desire to move a contract they are acknowledging that it’s not a desirable trade for one reason or another (In This case, his contract).

          Two, to get this offended by a reasonable trade proposal, for which I added another player along with the caveat (some version of), in conjunction with isolating only Stroman is out of context and stupid. This is especially true when it’s been all over baseball media.

          I never suggested a one-for-one, or even that it had to be Stroman. But to think someone will take $52MM of Bellinger who hasn’t played to that level of pay and give you something desirable is laughable.

          You guys are off your rocker. But if making fun of Yankees fans for not getting Soto when they’re one of the finalists makes you feel better, have at it. It just makes you guys look even dumber if he decides to sign with the Yankees.

          I haven’t known you to be like this so perhaps you’re having a bad day.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          I’m just tired of everybody assuming Bellinger is a bad contract. It might be. It might not be. He is certainly capable of earning that money. I haven’t known you to be this ridiculous suggesting that the Cubs want to SWITCH bad money for worse money. It’s stupid. Maybe when the bidding for Soto got to 700 million you knew it was over. Sooner or later even the Yankees and Dodgers run out of money. I’d feel bad for you but I find it hard. LOL But anyway the Cubs want better pitching , Not worse. Heck even Boyd is better than the two bums you wanna deal. Wow. Bellinger is 2 years at 26 million. That contract is not horrible. The Cubs just have young players they would rather look at. It’s a simple premise. Really it is. LOL

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        • Yankee Clipper

          6 months ago

          Again, not one-for-one but you’re obviously committed to being an idiot today. So, I’ll show you how stupid your statement is:

          Bellinger has a league-average bat and is averaging 2.3 WAR over the past FIVE seasons. That includes his first-year recovery with the Cubs. At $8M/WAR, he’s worth $20MM, objectively. He’s owed $52MM, and you’re talking about the pitchers value?

          Nonetheless, keep poking at the Soto deal. Perhaps he goes to the Mets (that’s where I have him going, btw), but perhaps he returns to the Yankees.

          It seems you’re just very jealous the Yankees were good and the Cubs sucked? Either way, you can’t provide any evidence to back your statements other than personal feelings.

          Now I am beginning to see why people dog on you guys. All the arrogance without any of the performance to back it up.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          Well I’ll put Bellinger’s performance up against the two dirt bags you wanna move any day and twice on Sundays. If those 2 guys are in your rotation this year you won’t be good for very long. Why don’t you just offer up Stanton? The worst contract in baseball history. Do we need him too? Yikes

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        • Yankee Clipper

          6 months ago

          I said “some version of” meaning including one of those guys. That could mean the Yankees eat money, or include other players. Again, choosing to be an idiot doesn’t make your argument sound.

          Stanton was better than Bellinger on offense this year… lol. Nice try though. And, worst contract in baseball history? Another ignorant comment.

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        • kgcubs

          6 months ago

          Aloha Jiggs! I agree, nothing against Stroman but so thankful he opted out last year or possibly no Imanaga-san! Before many even knew about Sasaki-san (Roki) I was hoping our Cubs would begin scouting him years ago. I lived for a while in that area, Tokyo/Chiba. Saw games at the Tokyo Dome and other parks. Now it seems like LA is trying to have a monopoly on all my relatives, lol! Maybe by some miracle Roki ends up at Wrigley. Anyhow, nothing against Cody but I want our young players to have a chance like PCA. We’ll see what happens and if this FO makes any bold moves at the upcoming winter meetings. Mahalo!

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        • slider32

          6 months ago

          Both are good options for the Cubs, both were starters on a AL championship team last year.. Bellinger at best is a 3 WAR player which makes him worth 15 million, while his salary is 27 million, Cortes had a 3 WAR last year and his salary is 7.5 million. Plus a pitcher is worth more in WAR money than a hitter..

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          6 months ago

          I don’t know why Uncle Mike is taking it so personal. Disagree without being disagreeable.

          I agree with him that Chicago does not want Stroman.

          I think Belli is useful for the Cubs in 2025 and if he even just improves upon 2024, he might opt out at the end of 2025.

          The type of player Cubs need is Andres Munoz or maybe Camilo Doval. Better to sign Treinan and Minter as free agents to a pair of two year deals. Cubs also need a catcher.

          I was think Bellinger could be traded for Jordan Montgomery and Adrian Del Castillo. But I really prefer that the Cubs keep Belli and hope he opts out at the end of 2025. By then we can see how PCA, Paredes, Busch and especially Shaw is doing.

          Belli is not a bad contract, it is an overpay. But when I see what free agents have gone for in the past couple weeks, I am not convinced that the Cubs could spend their money better if they had an extra $25 million for 2025. They should have enough money for a couple of relievers and a journeyman catcher at a minimum. I think Horton or Brown will be ready by late summer, but that’s just a hunch. Nothing the Cubs do will make them one of the best four teams in MLB in 2025. But they will be in the chase for the playoffs with just a couple of solid relievers added.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          Everybody says Bellinger has a bad contract. Everybody wants the Cubs to pay for him to play for their team. Everybody wants him. If I’m going to eat money to move him, Why the F___ would I move him? It’s just stupidity on such a massive level I can’t even believe what I’m reading. So the Cubs would LIKE to move either Suzuki or Bellinger money. We all know Hoyer isn’t going to use that money to sign a QO top of the line FA P. So what’s the end game? He has a trade that he would like to make I’m betting. He has a TOR arm he wants. So he would take back crumbs like people are suggesting? How does that make any sense to people. Stop drinking and posting and think.Hoyer has something he wants to do. Whether that will benefit the Cubs is a whole other question. He keeps painting himself into corners with Opt outs and NMC’s. It’s beyond stupid but well he’s still here. Something else I don’t really want. But I keep hoping a dumbell will drop on his head and he’ll wake up. I hope this is the year. But I believed in Santa Claus once too.

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        • CFS77

          6 months ago

          Cubs need a better 2nd catcher. Amaya pulled a 117 wRC+ post ASG with the swing adjustment. Was at 60 prior

          So he is not bad as a hitter you need a better 2nd guy than the turd they targeted.

          If Ballestroes was MLB ready moot point. Vibe is he can catch at the major league level and I personally would put him on the roster as a 3rd catcher and bench bat. Just give him a year to get adjusted. He dominated Iowa already.

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        • CFS77

          6 months ago

          Cody is not going to reproduce a 4.4 WAR again.

          If Seattle wanted to flip Cody and Nico for Castillo and a add I am on board with it.

          Castillo slots in-between Steele and Shota. Shaw takes over 2B and you platoon RF in Caissie and Alàcantara.

          Cubs need to move forward with their talent pending.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          I don’t know where you got that “Vibe” That Ballesteros can catch but throw it away and bury it. He’s going to have to 1) Get in shape and 2) Spend a ton of time working at it. There was always a doubt that he’d be able to be a ML Catcher. And he can’t. He does have a ML Bat though. But he’s 5’7″ and not a good 1B either so there’s that. He’s got a mediocre arm, Slow delivery to 2nd base and lousy blocking skills. Other than that, he’s perfect.

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        • Dogbone

          6 months ago

          @mlb, I too have no idea why uncle takes this so personal either. At times it gets pretty old and redundant. And I take no pleasure in saying that.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          I guess you must like people calling you stupid or just slapping you in the face repeatedly then because for me it gets old. As if anybody would even consider any of that dumb crap. I get up and punch back. Sorry. Cubs have been ridiculed for years. Get up and stand for something. They’re far from a national joke anymore. Although I’m not sure I can say that about Hoyer. But even he isn’t stupid enough to even consider any of that.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          6 months ago

          There are a few guys here who incorrectly think responding nasty makes them a funny comedian, but that is not him, he just seems to take it personally, so I have no idea. Agree with him in part on Ballesteros, I evidence yet that he can be a good defensive catcher, looks if evidence he can be a Wilson Contreras type with a solid bat and weak catcher skills. I have not see Ballesteros play 1B yet.

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        • Rexhudler86

          6 months ago

          I’m still waiting for Matt mervis to have a break out year

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        • CFS77

          6 months ago

          youtube.com/shorts/k94JvkBOdJM?si=p46M7QxYtex-aDS6

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          6 months ago

          Mike

          Clipper is one of the more polite posters. I agree that his trade idea was off-base, but there was nothing personal to it at the beginning.

          How much have you seen Ballesteros play 1B?

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        • CFS77

          6 months ago

          He has a strong sense of the strike zone that translates from hitting to catching. AFL he caught every 3rd game. They were using the challenge system for strike zone and he won every challenge he called

          So given that he is only 20 I would STFU on your “vibe”

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          I know Clipper too. Have had many a conversation with him. Sorry if I don’t just knuckle under and accept everything everybody says here. Most of the time he posts good stuff, But that Stroman nonsense I just couldn’t just bow down to. Sorry if it offends people when I stick up for what I believe in. But if you don’t know that by now, You really don’t know me at all. And I’ve seen Ballesteros play 1B many times. I subscribe to the MLB channel every year and it comes with the MILB package. I watch a lot of games. And I really don’t like 5’7″ by 5’7″ 1B. Especially when Busch is here already.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          6 months ago

          Uncle Mike: I apologize for reacting that way yesterday. I didn’t help the conversation by letting it devolve.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          No it’s fine. I wasn’t exactly Snow White either. But it’s done we’re cool. Keep on truckin. LOL

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        • Yankee Clipper

          6 months ago

          So you’re saying you DO want Stroman?

          Lol

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          I’d rather put my junk in a Cuisinart and hit puree’ dude. LOL

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        • Yankee Clipper

          6 months ago

          Haha…. OUCH

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          6 months ago

          TMI

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      • The Natural

        6 months ago

        The Cubs were dancing in the streets when Stroman opted out. No way will he be back.

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        • Unclemike1526

          6 months ago

          Stroman opted out when the Cubs refused to negotiate an extension. He thought he could find a sucker to offer him more. He was right. Enter the Yankees. LOL

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      • User 4014041831

        6 months ago

        If I am the CUBs I am not interested in Stroman part 2 or Cortes.

        Cortes stuff is just average – no real out pitch. Hangs too many breaking balls. NYY has prospects CUBs would be interested in. Not expecting Martian, Spencer or any top 20

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      • kidbryant

        6 months ago

        Cubs don’t want Stroman or Cortez … That’s a step backwards.

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    • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

      6 months ago

      Not in a Bellinger trade, but I could see them moving Taillon if they sign Buehler.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        6 months ago

        Better to keep Taillon IMHO

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  9. jawinks

    6 months ago

    Sign him and put the young guys in the pen. Saves them from wasting money on older, volatile relievers. Focus trades on a power hitter

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  10. HalosHeavenJJ

    6 months ago

    Every team should be considering Buehler.

    I really wonder what his market turns out to be.

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    • Rexhudler86

      6 months ago

      @halosheavenjj. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s atleast 2/48 with a opt out.

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  11. bwmiller79

    6 months ago

    Fits the story with Ferris Buehler’s Day Off, an all time Chicago film classic, Cubs fans will be bonkers about it.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      6 months ago

      Ironically, Cubs would sort of be replacing Ferris with Buehler.

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      • The Natural

        6 months ago

        You win this thread amigo!

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        6 months ago

        That’s great.

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  12. KnicksFanCavsFan

    6 months ago

    I know this isn’t a Bellinger post, but what are the realistic expected returns for him in a trade IF the team were willing to eat $20 mil per of the contract?

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    • Unclemike1526

      6 months ago

      That isn’t happening so there’s no sense even guessing. Cubs aren’t paying him to play somewhere else. In fact the most the Cubs should have to pitch in would be the 5 million dollar buyout or we’ll keep him.

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        6 months ago

        @Unc

        It likely IS happening since the article clearly states they are determined to get rid of one or the other, and Bellie is the more expensive of the two. That being said, you basically answered my question. You feel the Cubs would trade him and be willing to eat $5 mil. Thanks.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        6 months ago

        Belli is probably worth two years at $20 million per year in the current market. He is getting $27.5 million and $25 million. I tend to agree to Uncle Mike, Cubs will not eat $20 million of that to get a good return. If they trade Belli, they will eat maybe $5 to $10 million of it and get nothing back. I prefer that they keep Belli. Best case scenario they keep him and he opts out after 2025. By then PCA, Busch and especially Shaw will be better known commodities.

        CF PCA
        2B Hoerner
        DH Suzuki
        LF Happ
        RF Bellinger
        1B Busch
        SS Swanson
        3B Paredes/Shaw
        C Amaya/new guy

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        • Big whiffa

          6 months ago

          It’s one season at 32.5 mil. There’s a 100% chance he opts out at the end of this year as it’s a net 15 million if he does not. So he’s going to opt out because he’s going to get more than 15 million in another contract. One season at 32.5 million is a terrible contract !

          Look at the lineup you just posted. Thats a deep, average line up. Who’s the best player in it ? Why trade away that guy for a pitcher ?? It makes no sense. Just offseason banter.

          Unless Cubs can replace the best bat in their lineup- belli ain’t going anywhere

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        • The Natural

          6 months ago

          Suzuki is the best hitter on the Cubs and yet the word is they’re pushing hard to divest him or Belli. Hoyer is cooking up something, but he plays his cards very close to the vest.

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        • bwmiller79

          6 months ago

          Parades hit 30HRs in ’23 and had a .350 OBP, had a good season in ’24 too, believe he was an all star before being traded to the Cubs. He is no slouch, on a good contract at 6M in ’25, with two years of team control. Hard to move him to the bench.

          Cubs have all kinds of jam ups between their farm and the big club. Probably let the prospects grumble like a 12 pack of Old Style.

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        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          6 months ago

          @mlb

          Maybe I confused you. I was asking what would the Cubs want in return of the team (the team that is acquiring him), were willing to assume $20 mil of the contract?

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          6 months ago

          Yes, and my answer is I don’t think they would do that. But to answer your question, if they paid it down $20 million, then they would want something worth $12 to $15 million beyond what it costs. If the Cubs could get a closer or a solid catcher, then sure Belli might be moved with lots of cash.

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        • Longtimecoming

          6 months ago

          Big – the only thing that is 100% is death. I know people that don’t pay taxes.

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  13. CFS77

    6 months ago

    Let’s see

    Jed pays 29M for 39 good innings after a history of bad performance on Boyd

    In on Crochet who had to do 4 inning stints.

    And in on a pitcher that looked piss poor and would not been a part of any play off roster except a pen day more than one game per would be a joke

    I’m guessing that most feel that Jed is a clown that is just pushing for a pink slip

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    • cwsOverhaul

      6 months ago

      Crochet is good to go, and the WSox management of his innings was sound. In both his interest and for the benefit moving forward of whatever club acquires the filthy southpaw for minimum 2 dirt cheap years (likely 4 if he extends for security and still UFA at 30yo).

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    • Big whiffa

      6 months ago

      Not most of baseball fans. Rest of us see how much the cubs spend and admire their desire to compete. Most of cubs fans do hate the guy. And I think it’s bc they hate everyone and everything lol

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      • The Natural

        6 months ago

        I’m a mega die hard Cub fan, but I can’t disagree whiffa. Too high a percent of Cub fans are amongst the biggest malcontents ever. No appreciation for the incredible turn around in their record the last 10 years or so, the killer build up of the system, the billion dollar rebuild of the park, new ST facility, Dominican academy, technology investments. And yet cry me a river never stops. It is pathetic.

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      • CFS77

        6 months ago

        Let’s see

        Intelligent spending.

        Back to back 83 win seasons with a payroll at tax

        Ya it is called bull crud.

        No fan other than other teams that root for failure should want this guy making decisions

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        6 months ago

        Yeah, I am somewhere in the middle on this Ricketts is a little too cheap for a big city team payroll and Jed makes it worse PR-wise by making it sound like they are in the hunt for guys they were never going to sign. But most of their acquisitions have been ok, I just disagree with their unwillingness to fork over real money for a couple of very good late inning relievers. If they could just pick up say Treinan and Minter, it would go a long way with my opinion. I have low expectations for Paredes, but I had lower expectations for Morel. Rather than trade Belli, I would be Ok if they traded a prospect like Alcantara to a team like the Rays for a player who could help in 2025. Keep Caissie, Horton and Ballesteros IMHO.

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        • bwmiller79

          6 months ago

          I was in Tampa for two seasons with the Rays, ’22 and ’23, Parades was my favorite player on the team, he was always raking. Rays haven’t been able to plug the gap at Shortstop since Wander had his falling out. Guess they are in rebuild mode after a disappointing start to ’24. I could of guessed Arozarena would be on his way out of town and the fans loved Arozarena, but to me, he was easy to trade. I was surprised to see them trade Parades on the other hand, he was a key component to their lineup.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          6 months ago

          Miller79

          Hope you are right, he looked awful after coming to Chicago.

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        • Dogbone

          6 months ago

          @miller:
          I for one totally agree with your opinion of Paredes. He did have a few tough days on defense later in the season with the Cubs.
          But when there’s a runner on 3B with less than two outs, Paredes might be the guy in the Cubs lineup that I’d want at bat.
          To me at least, I really think he brings a lot to the batting order.

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        • CFS77

          6 months ago

          He is a dead pull hitter. Last year the park factor was killing most HR but Paredes was not even good enough to even have that excuse

          I do believe that he is better than Morel. But Shaw would be a better 3B even next year

          This is a money issue and Hoerner makes 12M and Paredes should make 6M. I would trade Paredes if the right deal came up. I feel that he is far easier to more than Cody and Nico in the meetings and it gives a clear path to the majors for Shaw.

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        • Dogbone

          6 months ago

          CFS, your argument is well taken. However despite Paredes having strong tendencies to the pull side – I still saw him often enough last year, adapt to a situation.
          I’ll agree to disagree regarding Paredes. He has, and does rely primarily on pulling the ball, but that also results in an extra base hit.

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  14. mlb fan

    6 months ago

    After coming off an overall bum(injury recovery)season it’s surprising to see Walker “tight pants” Buehler being in such high demand.

    It just goes to show that a couple of successful, very high profile appearances in the World Series can do wonders for your marketability.

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      6 months ago

      @mlb

      Why? High performing players , especially pitchers, are always in demand because the thought is they could be had for a below market price and/or short term deal with the hopes of them rebounding. In Walkers case he ended the year in a high note has the entire off-season to train and a full spring training. Depending on the trend that’s a low/medium risk with a high reward.

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      • mlb fan

        6 months ago

        “High performing players”…That’s really my point, that 95% of Buehler’s season was the farthest thing from “high performing”.

        Outside of a few successful playoff appearances, his last “high performing” season was a few years ago.

        Obviously, back then Buehler had established himself as a top of rotation guy, but again, that was a few yrs ago. Personally, I’m happy for him, because he’s always been among my favorite players(pitchers).

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      • CFS77

        6 months ago

        If he was worth the investment then the Dodgers would have resigned. They went with Snell.

        He should be at 10M with some kickers that push it up to 20M.

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    • Big whiffa

      6 months ago

      It’s his career numbers that entice. Then if there’s an opportunity to buy low due to injury, well, every team is going to check on that

      Dude is about to get paid

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  15. Cohen's _Wallet

    6 months ago

    Cubs and everyone else.

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  16. thickiedon

    6 months ago

    They signed Boyd, of course they’re looking for rotation help

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  17. Fernando P

    6 months ago

    No interest in paying Bellinger 54M for average offense and good defense. Infinitely better 1b options like Christian Walker, Josh Naylor or even Carlos Santana.

    Rather try some form of Cortes for Naylor. Both have two years left and the money is basically the same.

    But paying 54M and having to trade someone of value for Bellinger….no thanks.

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    • mlb fan

      6 months ago

      “No interest”…Some really sound points. I do tend to agree. There’s clearly better options available.

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    • Big whiffa

      6 months ago

      Busch plays 1st

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  18. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    6 months ago

    The Detroit TIGERS should be throwing their hat into the ring for some of these tradable pitchers….

    What they should have been doing for the last 10 years…
    We’ll see…..

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    • The Saber-toothed Superfife

      6 months ago

      And that’s pretty much all they should do…..

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    • Fernando P

      6 months ago

      Agree, have to maximize the prime years of Skubal by adding more pitching help.

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  19. Datashark

    6 months ago

    Buehler goes to the Giants – I figure he needs a re-establishment of career why not at a premiere pitching park.

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  20. HistoryBelongstotheVictorsInArms

    6 months ago

    So the Cubs of today are to the Dodgers what the Dodgers were to the great Boston teams of the not so distant past…

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  21. jhanley108

    6 months ago

    Haha Cubs considering Buehler- and I’m considering dating Aubrey Plaza.

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  22. Ian Happ Stan

    6 months ago

    This would be a good pickup for us. Assad is a great spot starter/long relief guy.

    Reply
  23. Jerome Pelka

    6 months ago

    Do not spend that kind of money on a often injured pitcher!

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