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Latest On Pete Alonso’s Market

By Anthony Franco | January 9, 2025 at 7:23pm CDT

Approximately eight teams are involved in the market for Pete Alonso, writes Jon Heyman of the New York Post. However, Heyman suggests that most of those clubs are interested in a shorter-term, opt-out laden deal with the star slugger.

That aligns with recent reporting from ESPN’s Jeff Passan that suggested that Alonso is likely to turn to a short-term contract. Will Sammon of The Athletic wrote in a reader mailbag last week that contract length appeared to be the holdup in talks between Alonso and the Mets. Heyman frames things similarly, reporting that the Mets prefer a short-term deal.

According to Heyman, Alonso had been seeking a deal of at least six years with a guarantee in the $150-180MM range at points this offseason. It is unclear how far his camp at the Boras Corporation has moved off that ask. In any case, it doesn’t seem that any teams were willing to go those heights. That’s not especially surprising considering the way teams have devalued defensively-limited sluggers over the past decade. Freddie Freeman and Matt Olson each got six-plus years and narrowly topped $160MM (albeit with deferrals in Freeman’s case), but they were each coming off superior platform seasons to Alonso.

Alonso turned 30 last month. He hit .240/.329/.459 with 34 homers across 695 trips to the plate. That was his lowest full-season home run total and slugging percentage. Paired with the defensive limitations as a middling defender at first base, it’s easy to understand teams’ hesitance to make a long-term commitment. At the same time, there’s clear value in a player who plays every game who hit 34 homers in what is a relative down year from a power perspective.

MLBTR predicted a five-year, $125MM contract for Alonso, who rejected a qualifying offer from the Mets. As we noted from the beginning of the winter, though, it wasn’t difficult to foresee a situation where his market didn’t materialize as his camp envisioned. Alonso had previously declined a seven-year, $158MM extension offer (albeit not while he was represented by Scott Boras). That covered his final arbitration season, in which he made $20.5MM. To come out ahead, he needed to beat $137.5MM over six free agent years. While that was evidently a goal, it looked like an uphill battle.

Alonso could end up taking the route traversed by Cody Bellinger last offseason. When his market didn’t materialize as hoped, Bellinger signed for three years and $80MM with opt-out chances after each of the first two seasons. Alonso would probably expect to beat a $26.67MM average annual value if he’s going with a short-term contract. A return to the Mets still seems the best fit, especially if the team successfully waits him out into pivoting to a three-year guarantee. New York could keep Mark Vientos at third base for another season.

Teams like the Angels, Giants, Blue Jays and Red Sox have been loosely tied to Alonso in recent weeks. Los Angeles, Toronto and Boston all have in-house options at first base who could clutter the picture. San Francisco seemingly wanted to upgrade over LaMonte Wade Jr., but Heyman reports that they’re reluctant to meet Alonso’s asking price.

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  1. BITA

    5 months ago

    I like the Bellinger comp. Limits the risk for the team who signs him to 3 years and gives him chances to opt out if he bounces back. I think he’s worth about the same amount of money as Bellinger too.

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    • Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee

      5 months ago

      Belli dint have a choice getting non-tendered. Alonso turnt down over $150 mil guaranteed….

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      • Sunday Lasagna

        5 months ago

        Pete turned down 7/$157 prior to last year. Mets paid him $20.5M in 2024. Mets are offering 3/$90.
        If Pete makes $16M per year in his age 33-35 seasons he will exceed the 7/$157 he was offered.

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    • Buckner

      5 months ago

      Boras mouthpiece (Heyman) writes “8 teams are in on Alonso!”

      I’ll wait here for the “mystery team” announcement, which I’m sure is coming soon. Thanks Scott.

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      • Joe It All

        5 months ago

        The Reds are the mystery team so no reason to worry about the mystery team signing him.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        But is the price dropping or is just sitting where it’s at? We’ve heard about this three years $90 million contract for a while now and it doesn’t seem like anyone else is really stepping up to the plate. At least nothing that has been reported.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Yeah, I agree there’s so much behind-the-scenes we don’t know, but if there was a market for Alonso, seems like something would’ve happened by now. He’s found himself into the no man’s land of the off-season for free agents. Obviously he will sign a contract, but I can’t see any team getting roped into a huge contract. Something that will blow three years and 90 million out of the water? I just think that would’ve happened by now if it was going to happen.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Well, Adames does play a far more premium position.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        I’m not getting the comparison. Yes Lindor plays a more premium position than Ohtani when he’s not pitching too, but what’s your point?

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Well, I’m sure it was considered, but in the end Lindor had a 6.9 WAR while Ohtani had a 9.2 WAR so…

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      • geofft

        5 months ago

        Easy, now. We first heard about the 3 years 90 million about two weeks ago. Its not that long a while. We’ve just gotten too excitable about these things. There were eight weeks left till spring training at the time, and it was the holiday week.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Two weeks are long enough in the off-season. Things tend to happen quickly. The big contracts don’t tend to come very late in the off-season anymore. December becomes January and January comes February and then we have spring training. It all comes pretty quick.

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      • geofft

        5 months ago

        None of what you are saying is absolute. There are no set rules to this thing. Some deals happen quickly, some percolate for a while.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Yeah, of course nothing is absolute, but we can use some common sense and look at recent history, right?

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      • stymeedone

        5 months ago

        I love how they list the teams that are IN on him, immediately followed by why they wouldn’t be. Its basically the Mets, with the Giants waiting for the price to drop.

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      • freddiemeetgibby

        5 months ago

        Lindor wasnt the mvp, get over it.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        It’s hard to follow your point. You’re all over the place.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        You’re arguing with yourself. Take a breath. I was simply making a point that Adames plays a significantly more premium position than Alonso, which is indisputable. Somehow you go from Alonso to Ohtani and Lindor and then Ohtani can’t be the MVP because he led the league in OPS. Really all over the place. You realize Alonso isn’t getting a long-term contract because big right handed first baseman tend not to age well. That’s the issue here. A guy at shortstop is going to tend to age better and that’s why he gets a bigger and more expensive long-term contract.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Yeah, so you’re one of those tough guys on the Internet. You don’t intimidate anyone so take it take it easy. You missed the most basic and obvious point. Adames deal is bigger because it’s longer and it’s longer because teams are more willing to give long-term contracts to shortstops that are 29 than lumbering right handed first basemen who are 30. There are several examples of first baseman who turned 30 that started aging badly. I’m not going to do additional research for something that we all know.You don’t get that? Talk about obtuse.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Haven’t we seen Alonso slip the last two years? He has one dominant trait. That’s power. He’s not a plus player in any other way. I love Alonso‘ power. But where else is he above average besides that? He’s not an above average fielder. He’s not an above average hitter. He has no speed. The one trait that he has is as a power hitter. However, his power numbers definitely slipped last year. And his OPS has gone down each of the last two seasons.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        I would bring Alonso back. I just think it makes sense to limit how long the deal is. He works hard at first base, but anyway you look at it, statistically, his defense is below average. And no player is perfect but again when we get down to it, Alonso really only excels at one thing and that’s hitting home runs. And he really didn’t excel that much in that category last season. He does drive in runs but again last year was alarming. Now it really could be that he was just pressing so much last year with it being a contract year, but you dont want to have a player one year too long and there’s some signs of slipping. I just wouldn’t want to go longer than three years on him because if he has another two or three high-end years, or close to it, and you’re stuck with him on a five or six year contract, that becomes a problem.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Yeah, I get Cohen can spend over anything so no contract is really the end of the world for him, but Stearns seems to still have his lines drawn in the sand and so I don’t think it’s good to needlessly give out a long-term contract that doesn’t seem like anyone else is willing to give him. I’m not one of the anti-Alonso people. I actually think he fits this lineup really well. I think this lineup really needs his power back. But to go back to the original point I just don’t see anyone giving him longer than three years. If that was the case, I think he’d have that deal in hand and he would’ve went back to the Mets and they either could’ve matched it or not, but either way he would’ve signed with the Mets by now or signed with another team. The only reason he’s still out there, in my opinion, is because there is no deal he likes. But eventually, he’s going to have to give in if it doesn’t get much better than what the Mets have offered. I don’t think it will.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        I do think teams look at his flaws though, and that’s impacting his market. I mean we’ve seen plenty of free agents get paid plenty of money, but the economy didn’t impact those paydays. It’s not saying Alonso is some terrible player, but I think it’s a very real thing that people look at him with the concern of potential decline coming and they don’t want to be stuck with a bad contract. I see no way he’s getting a six year contract from anyone. That’s just not going to happen. Maybe it gets stretched to four years, but I don’t think so. At the start of the off-season I thought he was going to get a five year deal, but that’s not happening either, in my opinion.

        And yes, I agree with the other point about Stearns and Cohen being a good match for each other, balancing each other. I think that’s very true. I do think Stearns has a lot of autonomy, but it’s clear when Cohen wants a player, like Soto, he’s going to do what he wants to do.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        Yeah, but at the end of the day, the premium guys always get paid. And they have this off-season. Alonso isn’t looked at as one of the premium guys but again I would still love to see the Mets bring him back on a three year deal with opt outs. At this point, I would be stunned if it was anything more significant than that. Like I said earlier, maybe I can see a compromise on a fourth year in the deal, but Stearns really seems to have his heels dug in, if we can believe what’s been reported. Maybe a fourth year team option with a buy out.

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      • Miken31

        5 months ago

        I appreciate the research you did, but the premium position stuff is not nonsense. I don’t think that’s fair. I don’t really care much about Adames and I’m not saying I would have signed him to that contract, but if you can play shortstop, even if it’s below average that’s going to be considered more valuable than a below average first basemen. Even if Adames has to move to second base over that time, that’s still a more premium middle infield position than first base. And again you may not believe it, but so far, teams in MLB seem to believe he’s not going to age as well, or else he will be getting long term offers that he probably would’ve taken by now. It’s not about Adames getting twice as much money. Alonso‘s going end up with a higher AAV. It’s just that teams think a guy like Adames is less of a risk on a long-term contract. You are not convinced and that’s okay. But the guys who get paid to do this are convinced. Alonso is going to then get another contract after this contract ends and he might end up out earning Adames over that time period for all we know. It might just have to be on two contracts though. Maybe three contracts. And you can look at the last four years, but I think teams are looking more at the last couple of years as a more accurate barometer. I don’t really think four years ago is relevant. Teams usually don’t go back more than three years when trying to determine what a player might do going forward. I think it’s even less than that to be honest. The thing I don’t get is, why do you think the reports of his market are inaccurate? It’s the middle of January and he hasn’t signed. Where in recent history are players like him all of a sudden getting massive long term contracts? Perhaps there are some examples but I’m just not thinking of any.

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  2. Pete Cruise

    5 months ago

    Toronto could easily take him on at put him at first base, as vladdy has said that he would prefer to play 3rd.
    But the ownership group runs this team like crap.

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    • seamaholic 2

      5 months ago

      FoxNews is on in the next room over dude.

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      • braveshomer

        5 months ago

        see @CarverAndrews…it’s literally the only thing you guys can say. Told ya!…Fox News this or that blah blah blah

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      • braveshomer

        5 months ago

        @RayFlag exactly lol…just wait you’ll get called some names and get screamed at louder just because

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      • JoeBoe

        5 months ago

        Who do you decide to get misinformed by, if not foreign owned fox propaganda?

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        5 months ago

        @Ray

        Guys getting what Akonzo can get paid aren’t affected by what’s going on in Toronto.z They’re just there to play and get a check and head neck to their US homes in the off-season.

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      • Mets Era Thumping Soto

        5 months ago

        Another moronic Foxnews reply.

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      • lfcredsox

        5 months ago

        yeah, fox news is too smart for your idiocy, which says alot when you make fox look bright

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      • lfcredsox

        5 months ago

        exactly as I thought you make fox news seem intelligent, which is very sad for you

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      • braveshomer

        5 months ago

        @metsin4 it’s literally all they have to say with their hive-like mind mentality…I don’t watch Fox News personally but man it really makes me want to lol. Some things must be right if you judge others based on their uncontrollable auto-responses smh

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      • spliffTONE

        5 months ago

        @braveshomer: Ahh….you poor, poor babies

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      • spliffTONE

        5 months ago

        @Raymond Flagstaff: The enlightened centrist has spoken!

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      5 months ago

      Vlad at 3rd would be even worse than Rafael devers

      At least devers isn’t as fat and has more experience at 3rd

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      • Pete'sView

        5 months ago

        Yes, but he’s no longer a fit at 3b.

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      • padam

        5 months ago

        Didn’t he win a GG over there…?

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    • bigjonliljon

      5 months ago

      Or after Canada becomes the 51st state.

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      • spliffTONE

        5 months ago

        @Raymond Flagstaff: wOkEtArDs

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      • foppert3

        5 months ago

        The Greenland thing is funnier. Watching the coke addled government representative playing in the Greenland snow and hanging with a dozen red cap wearers was international comedy of the highest order.

        God Bless America !

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      • Idli Amin, the Last King of Sambar (fka Senator Tankerbell)

        5 months ago

        Hiding behind terms like “woketard” and “DEI” is cowardly. Don’t be a coward; come out and say what you really mean! Also, I thought you people—y’know, Real Americans™️—hate when others inject politics into sports? (Or is the word “others” doing the heavy lifting there? Sorry, I’ll go back to being “one of the good ones” now!)

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      • Not a clever name

        5 months ago

        They can keep Greenland, but we have the others military in the world so Denmark better turn over all their butter cookies! And while we are at it we want that senorita bread from Mexico!

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      • Not a clever name

        5 months ago

        ^largest, auto correct got me.

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    • Ezpkns34

      5 months ago

      Vlad’s D at 3rd (or lack thereof) would immediately negate any positives Alonso’s bat provided

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    • TigersLoveCinnamon

      5 months ago

      I’ve been to Canada like 7 times, probably equals out to a little over a month. Loved the place, would gladly move there

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    • stymeedone

      5 months ago

      If they move Vlad to 3B, that would be proof they run the team like crap. He proved he couldn’t play there when he was in a lot better shape.

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    • radhippo

      5 months ago

      Drrrr duhhh drrrrr

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  3. willthethrill22

    5 months ago

    First! And, the Giants aren’t getting him.

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    • runningwithnailclippers

      5 months ago

      First to do what? Will Clark was cool btw.

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    • Ann Porkins

      5 months ago

      With less than $20M in space until the luxury tax, you’re probably right. That, and I doubt the Giants are as willing to give up draft picks for another opt-out free agent deal.

      But they could use one more potent bat in the OF/DH/1B mix if they’re going to seriously try for contention. After giving $333M to Chapman and Adames, I’d rather the Giants make a splash and try than straddle the middle and win 80 games again.

      So perhaps there is a non-zero chance they’re lingering in the periphery of negotiations for guys like Alonso. Far more likely, though, is that they’ll stand pat, make a trade, or simply take a flier on someone via minor league deal with a spring training invite

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      • Pete'sView

        5 months ago

        The soon-to-be emerging Bryce Eldridge is another reason the Giants signing Alonso makes little sense unless it’s a two-year deal which Alonso has already said he doesn’t want.

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      • John Bird

        5 months ago

        Boras likes to use the Giants for leverage. Everyone knows he wants to sign in NY, it’s just about at what price.

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        • slider32

          5 months ago

          Mets have their eye on Vlady next year!

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      • TheBull

        5 months ago

        The Giants. Haha
        Shizzy 4th place team that has only booked 1 winning season over .500 since 2016 Thst play in ballpark where it’s cold in the summer and home run hitters only reach the warning track. Yeah sure Pete Alonso is gonna love that

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  4. Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee

    5 months ago

    Pete gone done messed up….

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    • Tomas7

      5 months ago

      I agree, Pete didn’t learn from his ex-team mate Michael conforto’s experienced with Boras. If I were Pete, I’d fire Boras and get someone more realistic and get signed and get ready for spring training, this waiting must be a bad experience. Stay with the Mets…..

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  5. Canosucks

    5 months ago

    As a long time, Mets fan this has gone on ad nauseum.
    Look at his HR numbers by team last year, only about 5 against good teams. All his metrics are declining, can’t catch up to the heat anymore.

    Just sign Bregman, move Vientos to First and Dump the Polar Beer!!

    Vientos 27 HR in only 413 AB
    Polar Beer 34 HR in 695 AB

    Please go away Pete, no one is going to do 6 years for 180 million

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    • dugmet

      5 months ago

      695 PAs not ABs.

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      • Canosucks

        5 months ago

        #dugmet I’m sorry 608 ABs; doesn’t change my point but thanks

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        • zootus

          5 months ago

          actually it does somewhat. if you consider hr/ab then those 87 pa become 5 more hr for pete.

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      • spliffTONE

        5 months ago

        @dugmet: Lol ole’ Dugmet from PSD. Holla if you trying to connect with the old PSD Mets crew; we got a Discord group going from the remnants of PSD

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    • Lalo says show me

      5 months ago

      There’s no guarantee vientos won’t have a sophomore slump or be able to competently play 1b. I’m not sure why many Mets fans think moving vientos to 1b is a great idea.
      I don’t want the Mets to pay pete long term either, but I still want him at a higher aav short term with opt outs

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      • Canosucks

        5 months ago

        #Raymond Flagstaff Mets fans can have any opinion they want on thread about the Mets. Your on here why; nothing better going on in your life than to criticize Mets fans?

        This whole space is about opinions.

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      • Mets Era Thumping Soto

        5 months ago

        How’s he going to have a sophomore slump when last year was his sophomore season?

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        • Lalo says show me

          5 months ago

          He didn’t really have many at bats the prior year
          I’m hoping he continues to improve, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see pitchers adjust to him early on this year was more my point
          It’s more about fans thinking letting Pete walk wouldn’t create offensive issues

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      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        5 months ago

        Petulant, Becky?

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      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        5 months ago

        I think you better go on home….

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    • Angel 4ever

      5 months ago

      Bregman’s best years were the trash can years. Pedestrian since and going into his 30’s. Meh.

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      • padam

        5 months ago

        Still plays solid D evidenced by his GG. He may not be a $30M p/y player, but I can see him getting more than Alonso since he plays on both sides of the lineup card.

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    • spliffTONE

      5 months ago

      @Raymond Flagstaff: Says the absolute clown that won’t stop crying about “woketards” in the comment section of a sports site

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    • padam

      5 months ago

      @RF – what’s fragile? The fact some Mets fans, like myself don’t want him back? He’s not worth what he’s asking for, nor is he a long term solution any longer.

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  6. johncoltrane

    5 months ago

    Another satisfied boras client lol
    Pete will sign in may for 5 months

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    • Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee

      5 months ago

      He’ll take the $20 mil and pray….

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    • johncoltrane

      5 months ago

      @flag
      Ye bec soto rly needed boras to land 765$ mil

      Last yr snell & belly settled for 1 yr deals. Snell started off terribly before miraculously rebounding. Belly took a nosedive. Jordan montgomery fired boras & then had the worst yr of his career. Alonso expected $180mil & might be forced to take 1 yr deal too
      But Tell us more abt landing clients bloated contracts

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      • stymeedone

        5 months ago

        @johncoltrane
        Are you saying that Montgomery had a bad year because he fired Boras?

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  7. 10centBeerNight

    5 months ago

    Tedious ongoing saga because NY media won’t shut up about it. Maybe ask Pete why his offensive stats have basically made him Lucas Duda

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    • Pete'sView

      5 months ago

      Because Lucas Duda wasn’t especially good.[3 decent seasons out of 8 based solely on HRs]

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  8. Discostu

    5 months ago

    Bye Pete.

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  9. Goose

    5 months ago

    If there were eight teams involved he would be signed by now. This is looking like Snell, Montgomery and Bellinger all over again. Shooting the moon.

    I will not be surprised if he fires Boras after he gets a shorter deal.

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    • Moff_Nick

      5 months ago

      Snell seemed to do pretty well after betting on himself last year

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      • stymeedone

        5 months ago

        Let me fix that for you: Snell seemed to do pretty well after having no choice but to bet on himself, last year.

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  10. Poolhalljunkies

    5 months ago

    Would love to see the red sox steal this guy from the mets just let him dh/1b with casas he would obliterate lf in fenway

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  11. SupremeZeus

    5 months ago

    Stearns time in mke provides some insight into how he values 1b and what kind of resources he allocates to the position. These never ending reports seems to indicate that Boras believes his public pressure campaign will eventually lead to the Mets increasing their offer. The clock is ticking and the Mets leverage seems to get stronger with each passing day.

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  12. DugoutJester

    5 months ago

    Boras “Here take this envelope and write this article, thanks.”

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    • crise

      5 months ago

      You mean “Here’s an article to run, thanks. No, just run it, no need to read it.”

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  13. Moff_Nick

    5 months ago

    As much as people what to dunk on Alonso and boras, the problem here is that only 5 or 6 teams seem to want to spend any money. If any free agent hesitates to sign they get left out in the cold. Mlb needs a salary floor much more than a salary cap

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    • stymeedone

      5 months ago

      According to the Marlins and A’s, there is a floor, a grievance floor. It still shouldn’t force a team to pay a player more than they’re worth. Agents and clients need to realize that once the big markets complete their spending, they need to temper expectations.

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  14. jswanny41

    5 months ago

    Cmon Cohen give him 6-180, there’s NO WAY you’ll regret it

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    • slider32

      5 months ago

      I’m a Polar Bear guy but if it’s him at 30 or Vlady at 26 I would wait for Vlady!

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  15. rct

    5 months ago

    Watch, after all of this back-and-forth, he ends up returning to the Mets at like 5/$125 million and everyone forgets this whole saga in a year or two.

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    • ReyDay

      5 months ago

      Wishful thinking, it’ll be a miracle if he cracks 100MM now from the Mets, I think they’d rather just wait a year and sign Vlad to pair with Soto for the next decade.

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      • ReyDay

        5 months ago

        He probably will get over 100 just not with the Mets. They’d have to go at least 4 years with him which I don’t think Stearns wants to commit too.

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      • ReyDay

        5 months ago

        Earlier Cohen most definitely but I think he’s cooled off a bit and trust Stearns judgment after this past year.

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      • rct

        5 months ago

        I’m with you, Raymond. Stearns on his own probably wouldn’t sign Pete long term, but it’s Cohen’s money and Cohen cares a lot about tradition and branding and Mets history. Keeping Pete as he chases Strawberry’s HR total and then 300 HR and beyond is important to Cohen.

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  16. thecheddahbob

    5 months ago

    As a Mets fan I’ve been spending most of this guys career preaching he’s absolutely not worth a long term contract. His best comparables are Ryan Howard and Chris Davis, who both signed historically bad contracts and both of which had the value of a paperweight by age 31. I’ve been laughed at for years. Suddenly, in the last month, every Mets fan has changed their tune to agree with me as if they had this opinion the entire time

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    • scruffmcgruff

      5 months ago

      As an O’s fan who watched Chris Davis (both the crazy good and horrendously bad) Alonso is a way more disciplined hitter than Davis ever was. In hindsight Davis certainly wasn’t worth that absolutely terrible contract and while Alonso probably isn’t worth that same contract, he definitely would’ve been more deserving of it than Davis. I will say this though, I’m typically all for players getting paid as much as they can, it doesn’t take much to end a career in sports and there are a lot of owners and teams that are very much unwilling to pay for even the most consistently productive and healthy players.

      I was thinking of a random scenario at the beginning of the offseason for my O’s a ways back, if we couldn’t bring back Burnes, package Mayo in a deal to get Cease, maybe move Mountcastle for some more pitching depth and make a run at Alonso. Obviously thats just a hypothetical but I don’t think whoever signs Alonso is going to regret it in the immediate term.

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      • zootus

        5 months ago

        i think pete in Baltimore is a great fit. they’re even moving the lf fence in. replaces santander.

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    • rct

      5 months ago

      “I’ve been laughed at for years.”

      As you should be. Howard and Davis are lazy comparisons. Howard was the worst defender in the entire league for much of his career and possibly the slowest player as well. Then he tore his Achilles, which is a very hard injury to come back from. He likely would have put up a few more decent seasons if not for that injury.

      Davis was a real three true outcomes hitter. Alonso is much more consistent, with at least a 122 OPS+ in every season he’s been in the league. Davis was up and down (several seasons below average OPS+) and for whatever it is worth, Davis needed to take Adderall and was forced to go off of it and then back on it. I don’t see the comparison. Davis was a special case.

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    • Dannyocean

      5 months ago

      Good point with the Ryan Howard comparison. The last three years in Philly were basically a guaranteed out. I see Alonso as a modern day Dave Kingman.
      The .240 BA and 88 RBI over 600 ABs could be an anomaly but history says that’s the beginning of that long decline.
      Personnally, I don’t see him being beloved by the NY fans if this batting .211 and stilling our 200 times.

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  17. BforBrad

    5 months ago

    Seems obvious it will be the Reds at this point.

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    • Joe It All

      5 months ago

      As a Reds fan that would be exciting because it would have the shock factor involved of a guy signing somewhere that you never expected him to go. Very doubtful that will happen though because I just can’t see them paying what it would take to get him.

      With all the big free agents usually signing in large markets though if this happened it would be good for baseball just so fans that bemoan about the large market/ small market could calm down about everybody only going to big market teams.

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      • stymeedone

        5 months ago

        Everybody does go to big market teams until they spend all their money. Alonso is caught because there is no other big market with money left, but the Mets, where he fits.

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  18. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    5 months ago

    Because obviously they’ve been looking at your comments for all these years, remembered what you said and went “man, he was right the whole time!”

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  19. scottn59c

    5 months ago

    8 teams are in on signing him to a 1-2 year deal, lol.

    As for seven years, no team is signing a one-dimensional 30-something 1B to that kind of deal anymore. He should have taken the extension money when it was on the table. Now, he’ll be lucky to pretend that a short term, high AAV contract is saving face.

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  20. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    5 months ago

    Alonso is like so many other one dimensional power hitting first basemen before him, but the difference is that guys like Ryan Howard and Chris Davis were smart and took the “team friendly” deal early, likely knowing they were cashing in a lottery ticket vs banking on themselves and losing out later as they cratered- I honestly don’t think Howard or Davis thought they’d do better on the open market later on- they knew what they were and they were getting paid to be franchise players more than anything.

    Alonso isn’t quite a franchise player and he turned that kind of money down already.

    He will be very lucky to get 4 years/$100M from somebody and he will more than likely have to settle for like 2 years/$40M or 3 years/$60M- it is what it is.

    But who wants him? One dimensional first baseman power hitters no longer get that Ryan Howard/Jason Giambi level money, period, so who is going to take pity on him and give him his big free agency money?

    That said…. I do feel like a lot of these guys work their tails off to get to this point, often times only their peripherals are worrisome while their overall performance their walk year is adequate to justify a lucrative multi-year contract from someone, but teams are so wise to this type of player’s ceiling and age issues etc that basically nobody bites… and I genuinely feel bad for some of them.

    They’re already rich, they’ve already made a tens of millions in upfront salary and have many many millions after agent fees and taxes and some team would happily sign them for much less than what they were hoping for or projected to earn, but still tens of millions in guaranteed income- but it must suck when analytics indicate you’re worthless even though you still put up decent numbers in your walk year- plus he is only 29- which is that mystical baseball age where a guy is both at his peak and no longer worth a roster spot, according to many people in the MLBTR comment section.

    I hope someone, for the sake of the game, gives him 3 years/$70M or 4 years/$78M or 5 years/$100M something like that- an amount that nowadays feels like a bargain and a token consolation prize for someone like Alonso, but still sets him for life and then some- because guys like him bring in a lot of money and fan engagement and has plenty left in the tank, even if it isn’t super charged like some are using to argue they shouldn’t be given their due.

    All that said- he did this to himself when he apparently turned down the mets offer of, what essentially equates to 6 years/$137.5M, which would have been a perfectly cromulent deal for him and a deal he wasn’t going to top by very much even in the best of circumstances for himself on the open market…

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    • stymeedone

      5 months ago

      I’m guessing he was hoping for a bidding war between NYY and NYM. It just never materialized.

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  21. FRL

    5 months ago

    This might be coming from Alonso’s agent. 8 teams

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  22. Hexbreaker

    5 months ago

    Jon Heyman is a hack.

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  23. Miken31

    5 months ago

    “Approximately eight teams are involved in the market for Pete Alonso“

    Yeah, the Mets and seven “mystery teams.”

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    • crise

      5 months ago

      And the Twins: “So if you need a transition year we can hook you up, How’s about $8m and… no just $8m. Wait hang on, Lemme call you back, gotta make sure about $8m…”

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  24. Mikenmn

    5 months ago

    “He hit .240/.329/.459 with 34 homers across 695 trips to the plate. That was his lowest full-season home run total and slugging percentage.”
    This is not the platform year you want when you are looking for 6 years, $150-180. And if he declines just a little bit–from a 2.6 WAR player he was last year to a 2.0 WAR one, that’s a ton of money to spend on a purely average player. It’s a little troubling that his best season was his rookie year. He should have taken the offer on the table. Maybe he lucks out here, but…

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    • Dannyocean

      5 months ago

      So true. It’s not a great look when in 602 ABs you only get 88 RBI. Factor in the 172 Ks, there wasn’t a lot of lot of offensive action from him.

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  25. jeffreybecker77

    5 months ago

    dugout issues maybe? he’s definitely batsheet

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  26. Zippy the Pinhead

    5 months ago

    I hear the Mariners offered him Pike Place Market, the Space Needle, Bill Gates’ 60-acre waterfront mansion, and the Troll, in addition to $100,000,000 per year for 37 years…but then again, it might just be a rumor.

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  27. VA/NC Orioles

    5 months ago

    If he’s willing to take that opt out laden contract I could get on board with the O’s making moves to bring him in. Pair him with the young guys and be a true power source in the middle of the order. I like Mounty but he is so streaky. He plays a good 1b which keeps him in the lineup. A rotation of Mounty, Pete, and O’Hearn wouldn’t be the worst IMO.

    It was obvious that Mayo needs more time as he was over matched in the bigs. I’ve mentioned before that it appears he has a hitch in that swing which exposed him in the majors. Obviously not a professional hitting instructor but he rarely looked on time for anything in Baltimore.

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  28. Rsox

    5 months ago

    A decade long contract for a one-trick pony on the wrong side of 30 isn’t happening, four years with an option after 2nd year is a likely possibility

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  29. sfjackcoke

    5 months ago

    He lands somewhere between Chapman and Bellinger guarantee but more importantly without the back loaded pay and likely just one opt-out.

    The Bellinger deal didn’t work and Alonso has more risk being a year old w/zero defensive value with his one skill trending the wrong way

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  30. kingmanscorner

    5 months ago

    Pete should remember what happened to Conforto.

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    • Tomas7

      5 months ago

      Amen

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    • Yanks4life22

      5 months ago

      What did happen to Conforto? I’m legit drawing a blank on it besides he opted for surgery off-season going into free agency. Did he turn down an extension?

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      • oldgfan

        5 months ago

        He did, and has probably regretted it since.

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  31. Paleobros

    5 months ago

    If nobody signs him, he’ll be Pete Alone-so 🙁

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  32. es7129

    5 months ago

    Isn’t safe to assume his market is mostly paused until after Roki signs?

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  33. LGM!

    5 months ago

    Pete-just sign with The Mets, stay beloved, stay relevant, stay a fan fav, set records, dump Bored-Ass.

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  34. padam

    5 months ago

    “…always had a huge market” as evidenced by his non-signing and probability of taking a short contract. Even the Nationals, who have money to spend, opted for Lowe rather than wasting dollars on Alonso. Even the Yankees opted for an older first baseman than Alonso, as much as that would’ve been great optics considering the Mets grabbed Soto away from them.

    Proof his market isn’t huge…even the Angels haven’t signed him.

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    • padam

      5 months ago

      What was the point?

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