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Pirates Win Arbitration Hearing Over Johan Oviedo

By Steve Adams | January 29, 2025 at 2:17pm CDT

The Pirates won their arbitration hearing against right-hander Johan Oviedo, reports Mark Feinsand of MLB.com. He’ll be paid the $850K figure submitted by the team for the upcoming season, rather than the $1.15MM figure he and his camp submitted.

Oviedo, 27 in March, missed the entire 2024 season following Tommy John surgery. Prior to that injury, he’d stepped up and solidified himself as a viable fourth starter in Pittsburgh’s rotation. The right-hander, acquired from the division-rival Cardinals in the trade sending Jose Quintana and Chris Stratton to St. Louis, posted a 4.15 ERA in 39 starts from 2022-23, totaling 208 1/3 innings. That included a 2023 campaign in which he tied Mitch Keller for the team lead with 32 starts and finished second (also to Keller) with 177 2/3 innings pitched.

The composition of the Pirates’ rotation has changed greatly since Oviedo went under the knife. Ballyhooed prospects Paul Skenes and Jared Jones have made their big league debuts and cemented themselves in the team’s plans — Skenes in particular. The 2023 No. 1 overall pick burst onto the scene with 133 innings of 1.96 ERA ball last year, winning National League Rookie of the Year honors and finishing the season as a Cy Young finalist. Skenes, Jones and Keller now make up an enviable top three and are joined by southpaw Bailey Falter, who had something of a breakout himself last year (142 1/3 innings, 4.43 ERA).

Oviedo will head into the 2025 season as a favorite for the fifth spot in the rotation, but he may have to earn that with a healthy and effective spring showing, as he still has a minor league option remaining. The Bucs are deep in starting pitching talent, with prospects Mike Burrows and Braxton Ashcraft already on the 40-man roster and a pair of even more highly regarded arms — Bubba Chandler and Thomas Harrington — not on the 40-man but ticketed for Triple-A work to begin the season.

This was Oviedo’s first trip through the arbitration process. His camp surely sought a seven-figure payday based on the solid nature of his work pre-injury, but they faced a notable roadblock in that endeavor after Oviedo’s injury cost him the entirety of his platform season. He’ll remain under team control via arbitration through the 2027 campaign.

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47 Comments

  1. Steinbrenner2728

    10 months ago

    DEFEAT

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    • YourDreamGM

      10 months ago

      VICTORY according to Nutting2728

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  2. tom brunanskys black sock

    10 months ago

    DAAAAAAAAA …. pirates! Win!!!!

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  3. ChangedName

    10 months ago

    The most Pirates thing ever, taking a guy to arbitration over $300k. Hang up the banner.

    “2025, beat player in arbitration over inconsequential amount!”

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    • 2026 Free Agency Contest Award Winner

      10 months ago

      It’s a lot more than $300k though tbf.

      Not only does this put Oviedo at a higher starting point next time they’re back at the table, arbitration is entirely built on comparing to other players.

      It’s nearly impossible to get a good idea of how much this saves the pirates, and all teams, but it’s a big number that gets bigger the more data points are added.

      And now you have me defending the pirates, thanks.

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      • Robertowannabe1

        10 months ago

        Yeah, there are several teams that are similar to the difference in numbers. 5 of the 17 are the same or smaller numbers separating the sides 5 more were only between 3-500000 in differing amounts. At least the Bucs can justify their amount based on the fact that Oviedo was out all year with TJ surgery

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      • YourDreamGM

        10 months ago

        Take what you can and give nothing back!

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    • Sports_Guy

      10 months ago

      That’s stupid. He didn’t play!

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    • Kruk it

      10 months ago

      They’re probably looking for an OF with all those savings

      Reply
  4. TheMan 3

    10 months ago

    In all fairness, he didn’t pitch last year and didn’t deserve a raise
    If the average person was unable to work for an entire year, he wouldn’t deserve more money either

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    • tom brunanskys black sock

      10 months ago

      Who are you to claim the worth of another man?

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      • mlb fan

        10 months ago

        “Claim the worth of another man”…Get off your high horse, phony. Millions of sports fans judge and “claim the worth” of male & female athletes all 7 days of the week.

        Are you seriously suggesting you’ve never commented on an athlete’s salary before? If you say you’ve never done this, I’ll add “liar” to the list of things I’ve said about you.

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          10 months ago

          Sir. Please. Be reasonable.

          Reply
        • dcahen

          10 months ago

          MLB fan – having trouble detecting sarcasm? Sounds like you have a high horse too. Both of you say you’re sorry & wont get any more horses high.

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      • GASoxFan

        10 months ago

        Nobody’s valuing the worth of a person, they’re valuing the worth of the contributions that person has made.

        There is a difference.

        Herein, the individual contributed *zero* while drawing pay and costing money in terms of medical treatment and rehab services.

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    • ChangedName

      10 months ago

      The average person isn’t a major league pitcher.

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      • TheMan 3

        10 months ago

        where in my comment did I say that average people are equal to baseball players?
        You should change your name again

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    • EBupp

      10 months ago

      How can you NOT PLAY all year and ask for a $300,000 raise?

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      • tom brunanskys black sock

        10 months ago

        @ bupp

        Stop rooting against the financial improvement of your fellow man.

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        • mlb fan

          10 months ago

          “Fellow man”…Professional athletes make up considerably less than 1% of the total world population. Athletes are hardly our “fellow man” since most of us don’t make the millions they do.

          Next time you use your “fellow man” comment let it be about cleaning up America’s violent, crime and drug ridden inner cities. Average people are our “fellow man”, not celebrity millionaire athletes.

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          10 months ago

          You wanna hurt me? Go right ahead if it makes you feel any better. I’m an easy target. Yeah, you’re right. I talk too much. I also listen too much. I could be a cold-hearted cynic like you, but I don’t like to hurt people’s feelings. Well, you think what you want about me. I’m not changing. I like me. My wife likes me. My customers like me. ‘Cause I’m the real article. What you see is what you get.

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        • sensiblepiratesfan

          10 months ago

          The only reason more violent crime occurs in cities is due to the higher number of people. When you account for population density the per capita rate if crime is higher in rural areas.

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        • Skeptical

          10 months ago

          @tom b, “Stop rooting against the financial improvement of your fellow man.” Cute comment, but the same logic can be used to justify Nutting keeping the extra $300, it’s improving the financial improvement of your fellow man. I don’t identify with the financial interests of either Oviedo or Nutting, both, in my view, are overpaid.

          Don’t always agree with TheMan, but I do here. The guy didn’t pitch last year, didn’t contribute, why does he deserve more?

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      10 months ago

      MLB ballplayers aren’t the average person playing by the same rules of the real world. Rehab is also work. The MLB system allows one to ask for a raise so why wouldn’t one take advantage of that as there is no downside. The Pirates aren’t going to cut him because he asked for a raise.

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  5. 2026 Free Agency Contest Award Winner

    10 months ago

    Nice to see Bob Nutting’s wallet come out on top.

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    • YourDreamGM

      10 months ago

      It usually does

      Reply
  6. TJECK109

    10 months ago

    Sweet. Pirates are 1-0.

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  7. Mike Adamson

    10 months ago

    I’m just happy that Bob Nutting gets to pocket more money! Adam Frazier and the last RP they signed made us worse.

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    • YourDreamGM

      10 months ago

      Does any fan think Frazier is a need or needle mover. Bob could have just kept that $ and no one would have cared. It’s all about outfielder right now. Off season comes down to that.

      I was hoping he signed Frazier so he could dump IKF. Now that’s a Nutting move.

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      • Indy Norm

        10 months ago

        I have been saying for some time ,other blogs, this is where BC is heading

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    • TheMan 3

      10 months ago

      It’s not like other owners haven’t won in arbitration cases

      Reply
  8. JasonKendall

    10 months ago

    First win of 163 this season!

    3
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    • YourDreamGM

      10 months ago

      2nd biggest win next do dumping salary at trade deadline.

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  9. YourDreamGM

    10 months ago

    A+ arbitration win

    Reply
  10. YourDreamGM

    10 months ago

    Call up Grichuk. We got a new offer that’s 300k more!

    Reply
  11. Old York

    10 months ago

    A victory for the Pirates. Great job!

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  12. BuccoFan1956

    10 months ago

    RIGHTFIELDER please, give me something to be excited about for a little while anyway !
    Ward, Sanchez, Grichuk my top 3 but the owner may not agree

    Reply
  13. Ghost of Willie Stargell

    10 months ago

    Laughing stock team

    Reply
    • TheMan 3

      10 months ago

      The team collectively isn’t a laughing stock it’s the owner and his henchmen

      Reply
  14. Well said.

    10 months ago

    You would have had a happier player if you had paid the small amount of extra funds. Now you saved a little money but at what cost.

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    • TheMan 3

      10 months ago

      a happier player if he had won his arbitration case is nonsense
      He should be happy to even have a career in baseball
      There’s no guarantee that his surgically repaired arm will bounce back to his original form
      Wanting to give players a raise when he hasn’t played in over a year is ridiculous

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        10 months ago

        Is the concept of supply and demand that difficult to grasp? If Oviedo was so easy to replace, wouldn’t the Pirates have done so already with a league min player? Your issues are with the MLB arb system, not the player. Any player in Oviedo’s situation would also ask for a raise because they can and worked to be in that position.

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        • TheMan 3

          10 months ago

          do you suffer from reading comprehension problems?
          You’re just another reason why I hate Yankee fans

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          10 months ago

          You keep griping that Oviedo doesn’t deserve a raise. He works in an unique system with a strong workers’ union which allows him to ask for a raise and then you compare him to an average person working a traditional 9-5 job. Let that sink in for a minute.

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  15. Mendoza Line 215

    10 months ago

    Not well said-If Oviedo is not happy and it adversely affects his outlook and he pitches poorly because of it then he will be very happy with $815,000 next year.
    He got paid this year the full salary and did not provide any plus to the Pirates.It was not his fault,but any raise at all is not justified.
    See other rationale in above posts.
    This is a business and he is supposed to be a professional and they do not whine about business decisions.

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  16. Iorg Brothers

    10 months ago

    They pitched him into the ground by going with essentially a two-man rotation at the end of 2023. Had never pitched a full season, yet they were still running him out there at the end of September. They had been out of a wildcard slot for weeks.. His arm falls off, he gets surgery and Bob Nutless and company fight him over 300K. No way there’s a crappier, more poorly run organization in pro sports, top to bottom.

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  17. Mendoza Line 215

    10 months ago

    Iorg-Total innings pitched for Oviedo

    2018 121
    2019 146
    2020 24
    2021 116
    2022 117
    2023 177
    Hopefully you were looking at the minor league totals also.
    The Pirates as a small market team ran out of ML starting pitching pitchers in 2023 as they did in 2024.That is the reason for his higher innings pitched,plus he pitched longer in many games as he had either good or bad outings in 2023 and not a lot in between.
    He has thrown for many more than 100 innings going back many years so the increase probably was not enough in itself to cause the injury that naturally occurs with every pitcher now.
    I hope that you included minor league innings in your assessment.

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