In nearly every aspect, it's been a banner offseason for the Mets. They signed one of the most coveted free agents in MLB history to the largest contract in North American sports. They brought back a franchise cornerstone their preferred way: a short-term deal that doesn't run the risk of overcommitting long-term. They re-signed the lefty who carried their rotation in the season's second half in what looks like a potential late-blooming breakout. They grabbed one of the most underrated relievers not just in this year's class but throughout the sport in general. Juan Soto, Pete Alonso, Sean Manaea and A.J. Minter make for a terrific quartet of headline additions, with a broad-reaching swath of depth moves also on the books.
Keeping Manaea was an undeniable boon to Carlos Mendoza's rotation, even if it came at a generally steep cost. As shown in MLBTR's Contract Tracker, Manaea is one of just five starters in the past decade to secure a $25MM AAV over three or more years beginning in his age-33 season or later. Teams generally are loath to commit this type of money in a pitcher's mid-30s, but the left-hander's performance and the bull market for starting pitching early in the winter coalesced to land him (and 35-year-old Nathan Eovaldi) a rare contract for pitchers in this age bracket.
The rest of the Mets' moves in the rotation, however, have been lackluster. Mets president of baseball operations David Stearns came to Queens with a reputation of eschewing long-term deals from his time heading up the Brewers' baseball operations department. There was some question as to how much of that stemmed from Milwaukee's perennially bottom-third payroll and how much was a philosophical directive from Stearns himself. The two offseasons with Stearns at the helm for the Mets don't represent a large enough sample to say he simply won't go long-term for a pitcher under any circumstances, but signs point to the likelihood that his avoidance of large-scale pitching contracts in his Brewers days wasn't solely a product of owner Mark Attanasio's frugality.
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The Mets have had a very good, maybe excellent off-season, but you can never have enough pitching.
mets havent done anything with their rotation
they invested 38$ mil in clay who has never been a SP
they invested 34mil in aging injury prone frankie montas
senga missed entire 2024 reg season + was a disaster in the playoffs
mets shoulda signed flaherty
now they’re gonna depend on david peterson, griffin canning, tyler megill and paul blackburn? yikes
I think it will be better than most are thinking, but not among the top staffs by any stretch. They’ll make a deal for a frontline arm at the deadline.
Which is an unfortunate approach to adding a TOR.
1) in a close race for either a wildcard or for the division, by waiting until the Deadline you’ve forfeited 2/3 of that starter’s value in adding wins, meaningfully increasing your chances of spending big on this starter but missing the postseason altogether. Also…
2) you never get that starter for just 1/3 of the price you’d pay had you picked him up during the offseason, meaning you’re overpaying for a decreased amount of performance, and
3) given he’s a TOR, which the Mets lack, likely headed for FA he’s much less likely to sign an extension with just two months to go before free agency than if you’d picked him up with six months of the season still ahead.
Jack:
I think Stearns is very smart, but he seems stubborn to a fault. There’s an opportunity to add Cease right now, or King. The Padres obviously have to cut salary, but Stearns hugs these prospects so tight. Adding a starter like that to the rotation makes all the difference in the world. And like you’re saying, then at the deadline, you don’t feel so much pressure to add a starter because you had him all season.
You have no idea what the asking price is for Cease.
Well, yeah, I didn’t say I did so…
The point is If the Padres asking price is too high for essentially a rental, Sterans holding onto the prospects is the right decision.
ManInThePlanet:
Yeah, I don’t disagree with that. Of course. However if they really are strapped and feel like they need to trade him then unless someone goes overboard on an offer, they will have to lower their demands. Unless they really don’t have to cut that salary.
Sign and trade! Sign and trade! I wouldn’t send a fat package of prospects for a rental.
@Miken31 Hey Mike, I’m increasingly thinking that point’s right, that Stearns has some characterological rigidity that’s not going to serve the team well, particularly when the time comes that the farm’s producing regularly and the Mets need to go a little nuts in free agency in order to acquire premium FA’s in order to hang with the best teams.
Strange–it’s difficult to find out if “trade and sign” is still something teams can do. The Mets didn’t do it with Lindor, instead bidding against themselves for almost three months after the trade with Cleveland before he agreed to the 10-year extension.
Even if he’s reluctant to do a one-year rental trade, Trade and Sign should be the kind of arrangement Stearns is willing to work for the right ace. The Mets did it with Santana, and if they couldn’t agree he would have gone back to the Twins. It was about the most frenzied three days I can recall for Mets fans. I’d hate to see the Mets only have a rotation most years as good as they can put together from their farm supplemented by gambles like Severino, Montas, Canning, Holmes, and the like.
JackStrawb:
Yes, I can understand philosophically Stearns thoughts on signing pitching and not signing guys over 30 to very long-term contracts. However, you’d only have to be that rigid if you didn’t have the resources to spend over mistakes. Occasionally, you can take a gamble because when you have Cohen‘s wealth, if a free signing doesn’t work out, it’s not the end of the world as it would be with a team like the Brewers. Obviously you don’t want to make mistakes and have to spend over mistakes, but you can make some gambles occasionally and those gambles might end up with a pitcher that dominates on the way to a World Series victory.
@Miken31 Couldn’t agree more.
I’m hoping it’s because Stearns knows he can’t move the needle all that much with the current Mets team—a team that’s older than average that has yet to get much from the farm on any kind of regular or reliable basis—without saddling future rosters (2026, 2027… etc) with old FAs who will weigh those teams down with expensive declines.
Still, there are intermediate moves he could have made. Flaherty would probably have been a better pickup than Pete, given their comparative contracts and who they’re supplanting in 2025, so I’m not all that sure Stearns isn’t going to continue to be hobbled by the creative limitations you’ve mentioned.
Jack
What about Flaherty makes you feel like it was a mistake to not acquire him?
I don’t see Cease signing an extension now or July.
I don’t think they trade for a top of the rotation SP in July either.. Stearns will find something in July to trade for and he will help more than fans expect.
I think the asking price for cease or any TOR is high right now, and to Jack’s point, will stay high in July even though over the half the season will be done.
If Alcantara comes back at a high level thats who i could see them try to trade for.
@CleaverGreene You’re probably right (hence the preference for a “trade and sign” form of deal). The Mets will have to be willing to do something like what Cohen did with Lindor—back their judgment with cash and supplement the willingness to trade significant prospects for a guy like Cease with a market level contract, in what they agree is what Cease would get if he was already a FA.
Granted that adds to the Mets’ risk, but it seems like a risk worth taking for a rich team that really does need a #1 SP if it’s the case that Trade and Signs are really done any more, for whatever reason.
(Fwiw I’m constrained to note that Stearns’ 2024 deadline pickups flamed out—negative 0.3 bWAR combined for August and September, though Stanek and Winker were helpful in the postseason. _Still,_ the Deadline moves didn’t help the team get to the postseason.
How won’t he go long term for a pitcher when they offered Yamamoto the same contract the Dodgers gave? He won’t go long term for an older pitcher.
The Mets got very lucky with that bandaid pitching staff last season. Severino didnt breakdown like past seasons with the Yankees, Manae had a career year, Quintana was lights out in August and September and Peterson matured and had a good year. Now there banking on a healthy Senga and a repeat performance by Manea and Peterson. You can’t count on bums like Montas, Blackburn, McGill and Canning. I just think it’s a bad idea to wait for the trade deadline but this is how Stearns operates.
Stearns has made the playoffs 6 of the last 7 years, it’s not luck at this point. He knows what he’s doing, when are people going to stop second guessing every move he makes.
The problem with Stearns is that the Brewers never made it to the World Series. He is too passive in his approach to recognizing what his team needs to go to the WS. We needed another SP last year with Senga being a ? but chose to pick up Winker who really did not do much.
The Dodgers have the band aid pitching staff.
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Didn’t McGill used to be a shyster lawyer?
Your comment is on the money. I’d only differ that Megill has flashes of brilliance so I wouldn’t put him on the dungheap just yet. As someone else posted, Stearns is stubborn to a fault.
They’d better score a ton of runs because they’re going to allow a ton.
Remember the 2015 Royals rotation anyone?
It’d be great if the Mets had a Wheeler/Burnes type true ace to head the rotation. Barring a trade for Cease or King I don’t see that happening.
The Mets do have a lot of rotation depth of capable starters. Stearns made sure of that.
I definitely agree that the rotation has some room for improvement but throwing King’s name around like he’d be some type of ace seems a bit ludicrous to me. On the one han, Holmes has as much potential to be an ace, since King too was a reliever until last year. or if you’re just looking at last year’s numbers, then Peterson is as much of an ace as King. I’m not really even sold on Cease being an ace with his 3.7 ERA and flaky track record. Maybe I could get behind a Castillo trade though.
It’s impossible to be kinder than to say, You don’t understand even the basics.
King’s already an ace. One of the top K rates in the game. Very, very good control. Strong hit and HR suppression, and a very good WHIP.
2.79 ERA, 3.10 FIP fr 2022-2024, 2.88 ERA as a starter in 2023-2024 with a 146 ERA+. He was essentially a lights out reliever who transferred his rate states to starting with very little drop off.
Do that long enough and they put you in the HOF, As for Cease, who knows what you can possibly be thinking.
Cease ultimately melted down during the playoffs, but a true ace needs to shine in those spots. People yell “small sample size” but when the pressure is on and you can still pitch lights out, that proves a lot to me. Same thing if you fall apart in those situations.
ISOB – sounds like you are describing Clayton Kershaw?
You know, Tom Seaver wasn’t all that “ace like” — in terms of bringing home wins — in the 1969 playoffs or World Series. Koosman was. In 1973, Seaver’s most impressive start (Gm 1 LCS) was a 2-1 loss on two late HR’s. Koosman and Matlack were the ones who brought the ’73 team to the cusp of taking out the As. And Seaver did not close the deal in Game 6.
Of course, if Cease or King or Alcantra or Castillo brings them close to the silver trophy with a good season and a mediocre playoff, I would hope they could otherwise end the 39 years and counting. My point is, gotta get there first.
Yeah, you’re right. Kershaw, an ace? Nah, the bum was imperfect in the postseason. No Hall of Fame for you!
The Mets have had an outstanding off-season thus far. They have addressed their key needs well. That said, the rotation needs to be further addressed if that are to compete with their primary competitors, the Dodgers. Fortunately, the off season is not yet over. I think it is time for David Stearns to ring up A.J. Preller and swing a deal for Michael King. Carlos Mendoza knows well how effective a pitcher King can be, and I hope he pushes the front office to make this trade and not one for Dylen Cease.
Don’t you think their primary competitors are the Braves and Phillies? I think the Dodgers are a secondary concern, who you don’t need to worry about until the postseason.
Cut/paste from exactly 12 months ago. It’s not flashy but no reason to believe Manaea and Peterson were flukes any more than say Lopez or Schwellenbach or a host of others who had breakout seasons. And I think ATL is still #1 in NL east but my point is there’s no reason to believe Senga won’t be fine just as there’s no reason to think Strider won’t be back and dealing
Atlanta won’t even make the playoffs. Acuna isn’t coming back until July. Strider will be throwing a couple miles slower. Albies and Murphy aren’t that good anymore. They have wholes in their rotation and bullpen.
I was extremely disappointed by the Montas signing at the time and I like it much less now.
Same. I hope the pitchlab and Hefner have some leftover magic and they didn’t use it all on Severino
On a totally different note, The A’s filed their permit to build a stadium in Las Vegas and it doesn’t include the required parking garage. Clark County Code requires the new stadium to provide a 7,650-space parking lot. The building permit will be denied.
The A’s tried to argue that because the ballpark is in the Resort Corridor that the requirement is excessive, but they were unable to get a variance.
Each day that this is delayed makes it less likely that a stadium will ever be built in Las Vegas.
Another aside, the Oakland Roots sold more tickets for their home opener on March 22nd than the A’s did for theirs at the same venue in Oakland. You can still buy tickets in nearly every section for the A’s home opener vs the Cubs in Sacramento today.
web – I’ll bet on that stadium project moving forward. And have you ever looked at how little on-site parking there is at Allegiant?
There are 13,000 spaces at multiple lots controlled by the Stadium. There are another 22,000 at neighboring businesses that have agreements with the Stadium Authority to provide parking for games.
Allegiant stadium holds 10 games per season. The baseball park will hold 81.
Being a realist you will understand that Allegiant has 1 parking space for every 2 tickets available and the baseball ballpark would have 1 per 8 tickets available according to the permit application. Huge difference.
And why do you suppose that the baseball stadium won’t ultimately make similar arrangements?
I don’t find the “number of games” argument persuasive, because Allegiant needs the use of parking on some of the busiest days in the year for the Vegas Strip (fall weekends). If Allegiant had also needed to find available spaces on (less busy) weeknights, it wouldn’t have been a big issue: they did the tough part.
You are making very definitive statements that the A’s stadium project won’t start – “the building permit will be denied”.
Have you looked at Allegiant as a precedent for that? Here’s a March 2018 article about how the Raiders were still figuring out details of the parking plan, months after stadium site construction work had begun in fall 2017 – lvsportsbiz.com/2018/03/01/raiders-finalizing-land…
In short, here’s my take as a “realist”: this Vegas baseball stadium project, which has worked through the far more politically contentious issue of getting $300+ million in public financing, *isn’t* going to be derailed by the amount of on-site parking in the A’s current plan. They’ll figure it out and move forward.
(Wish I knew you in IRL just so that we could place a friendly wager on this one.)
It’s mentioned briefly but I fully expect Sproat to be a part of the rotation. If he has a good start in the minors, they’ll call him up. They didn’t hesitate in bringing up Christian Scott and won’t with Sproat.
With their offense, they don’t need a rotation of aces. Scored the 7th most runs in baseball last year and added Soto. They made some nice bullpen upgrades. I think they’ll be fine.
Who said Soto couldn’t pitch.
Enough ammo in the farm to make a mid season move if necessary. The way vientos played last year stocks intriguing on some of these guys that otherwise would have doubts against them for the field
Disagree about Montgomery as last year was such an aberration
His body of work is a clear 3 on a contender
Sandy alcantarra is a guy they should be targeting as well if cease isn’t on the table
Montgomery from 2021-2023 is a clear #2 on a World Series winner. By your assertion there would be something like five #1 starters and fifteen #2’s in all of MLB.
Montgomery’s ERA+ was 120 those three seasons. Bracketing that, for his career John Smoltz was at 125. Tom Glavine was at 118. To get a lot better than that tier you have to go to Greg Maddux at 133 or the likes of Johan Santana.
Monty missed one or two starts, at most. He was essentially a HOF-caliber pitcher those three seasons. That’s not a #3 on a contender. Add in his postseason numbers those three years, a 2.67 ERA in 5 GS in 33.2 IP, and you have a guy whose results would have looked just fine as the #1 SP on a WS winner.
DM me your venmo
Two words. Sandy. Alcantara.
Two more words. Prospect. Capital.
“They signed one of the most coveted free agents in MLB history to the largest contract in North American sports. They brought back a franchise cornerstone their preferred way: a short-term deal that doesn’t run the risk of overcommitting long-term. They re-signed the lefty who carried their rotation in the season’s second half in what looks like a potential late-blooming breakout. They grabbed one of the most underrated relievers not just in this year’s class but throughout the sport in general.”
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1) That’s not actually a good thing—Soto’s deal was an obscene overpay for a player who didn’t even crack MLB’s top 5 by WAR, another example of the fatback _grossero,_ Cohen, hijacking the offseason, as is 2).
2) Alonso, if he ever was a ‘franchise cornerstone,’ hasn’t been since 2019. Call it as late as 2022 if you’re feeling extremely generous. Did anyone call Santander or Chris Carter or Adam Dunn a ‘franchise cornerstone,’ especially in their decline phases? And the signing wastes $30m far better spent on the top of the rotation arm that’s currently missing from this putative WS contender while blocking the Mets current crop of young players most likely to step up and contribute in 2025.
3) Manaea didn’t carry the rotation in the 2nd half. If anyone that was Peterson and his 2.79 ERA after the ASB. In any case, Manaea’s second half hung entirely on the freak luck of his .191 BABIP his last 10 starts.
4) Minter’s “underrated”? By whom, exactly? Who is it you think underrates a reliever coming off three years of a 150 ERA+ and a 2.89 FIP for one of the best teams in MLB?
—-MLBTR, please find someone who can write about the Mets without the kind of pointless hyperbole that at best misleads and that typically, routinely paints an inaccurate picture of the team. Thanks,
“fatback, grossero” ??
Why does he have such a hatred of Cohen? I don’t even know what that phrase means but he’s seething with contempt for Cohen like Cohen maliciously refused him a job. It seriously colors his otherwise pretty good analyses.
Right? It almost sounds personal. Like he’s really personally chagrined by this guy, down to his very bone marrow.
Isn’t the obvious answer here Nick Pivetta?
But the grammar is godawful. You’re a one tool player.
Are you saying he only has 1 tool and he is playing with it?
Manaea, Peterson, Megill and Senga (over two years) have all pitched to an ERA+ of 105 or better. Their rotation should be a good bit above average next year.
That said, it is not quite the rotation I’d like to see in the playoffs.
this rotation, such as is it, will get clobbered against the Dodgers.
Superb in-depth piece! I’ll say it again: Stearns has got to come off his stance of refusing to give 4-5 year deals to star starters who are 30, 31, 32. Otherwise, you’re losing out…it’s just the way the market for starting pitching stands, like it or not. I’m frustrated that the Mets made zero effort to sign Snell, Fried, or Burnes. Mr. Stearns: I doubt if you think Soto will hit much at age 39 but you gave him a 15 year deal because you had to. Same holds true for the above group of ace starters.
I’m happy to pay the small fee for reading this excellent article.
Mid season acquisition of half your rentals will be less costly. At some point you have to give an opportunity to Sproat and the rest of the younger guys on the team to prove themselves. If a marquee picture is needed, then get them at the trade deadline.
The rotation is barely average and only because of Manaea and Senga (even Senga is a ?). Way too many ifs in this rotation behind those two and it will tax the bullpen as well if they cant go at least 6 innings….Sproat needs to be ready to be called up to help it a bit but thats not ideal to rush him..
Why would Sproat be rushed up? They have 6 starting pitchers between Senga/Manaea and Sproat;
Peterson, Montas, Holmes, Blackburn, Butto, Megill
Holmes may or may not work as a starter, Peterson is a #4, Montas, Blackburn and Megill are crap. Butto is a better reliever than starter. Need a #1/#2 type starter that goes deep in games and misses bats….
That’s inaccurate and unfair to Peterson who had a sub 3 ERA and 2.9 WAR despite not coming up until June (!) …… and he STILL threw 121 IP. That’s better than the average #4 starter by a country mile.
It’s not a secret that better pitchers perform better. I can’t believe I have to say this but David Stearns is aware of that.
“Holmes may or may not work out”
That’s a fact for Holmes as much as it is for every player in the league. Nobody is absolutely fail and injury proof. There’s no guarantee anyone has YOY success and remains healthy.
Landing a guy on an “ace” deal requires extending that risk over a longer and more expensive timeline … all while making it less likely to sneak back under the closest luxury tax threshold and reset the tax.
Ideally we’re filled with Dylan Ceases and Walker Buehlers but under team control and not as FA acquisitions. That’ll happen but not 12 in the first 12 months of Stearns taking over. RN he’s just trying to get as many quality innings as possible without stifling the future with an albatross and with as little of it hinging on any one individual player.
Peterson is 29 and all of a sudden hasnt figured it out! He is what he is and shouldnt be counted on as a full time starter because of last year! Holmes is a reliever and not a starter, so thats not like every other player in the league lol. This team needs a true #1 starter to compete with the big boys. On a positive note, the lineup looks pretty decent and the bullpen is good, especially if Nunez and Minter can be healthy for the whole season. Im not a Stearns fan but this year will tell a lot more about his supposed genius. Mets could win 80 or up to 90ish. See what happens
Dude, absolutely not.
29 is when you START your prime as a pitcher. He had amazing numbers after returning from surgery he had pre-season. He had a great year and established himself as a solid rotation piece going forward, any other interpretation is objectively wrong.
Why is Holmes a reliever and not a starter? Because you say so? Because he was a reliever last year? What about Garret Crochet? He was a reliever and look at him now, he’s a top 10 starter.
Lol, 29 is the prime for a player but Peterson has yet to put it together up to this point. You forget that the Mets drafted him and have been waiting for him to develop for a long time. I cant believe you compared Holmes to Crochet lol. Hes a solid not spectacular reliever and walks too many batters. Theres a reason why the Yanks didnt sign him. You havent convinced me yet in any of your points. Also, the fact that the Mets are still interested in Cease, tells me that even small market Stearns isnt totally sold on his rotation. Facts are facts
“Peterson has yet to put it together up to this point”
Do you realize how good you have to be to have a 2.91 ERA across 121 innings pitched?
He missed April and May but still threw 121 innings! He had a nearly 3 WAR season in 4 months!
Seems like you’re writing this comment from 2023 and didn’t watch any of the 2024 season. Doesn’t seem you have the perspective to appreciate the season he had.
Also get real with Holmes: an ERA+ over 150 each of the last 4 seasons. He’s got a stellar sinker that gets more ground balls than any other pitch in the league. What were crochets numbers as a reliever?
I noticed you don’t use any stats in your arguments, just your feelings. It’s hard to convince people you’re speaking intelligently if you’re just using your emotions. See if you can find data to support your opinions.
“Also, the fact that the Mets are still interested in Cease, tells me that even small market Stearns isnt totally sold on his rotation. Facts are facts”
You legitimately don’t know the difference between a fact and a rumor…. Here on mlbtradeRUMORS.com
Lol, are you impressed that Peterson pitched 121 innings with a 2.9 era for 1 season? You are really reaching for positives there. Hes a back end starter and nothing more. Come back when he does it for a few seasons! Holmes had all his success as a reliever not a starter. We will see hiw he fares as a starter. Some of you Mets fans are delusional when talking about this team. The facts are that this rotation is very average and the lineup is its strength. Other than some Mets fans (you), who is impressed with this rotation?? Derp
I noticed you still cannot support a single one of your claims with statistics. That’s usually a sign that you don’t have much of an argument to make.
“Other than some Mets fans (you), who is impressed with this rotation?? Derp
Before you changed topics to “who is impressed” we were talking about Peterson. Changing topics is usually a sign that you don’t have much of an argument to make.
It’s a trite and banal opinion on here to say “The Mets should have gotten a #1 pitcher! How stupid they are!!!”
Like who are you talking about? Where do you go find this Ace? There’s maybe 9-10 aces in the entire league and I’d argue the only TRUE ace is Wheeler (200k, 200IP, sub 3 ERA). Can you make a specific suggestion or, like the use of independently reviewable statistics, do you have truly nothing of substance to say?
Also FWIW I love how you’re like “we need to see Peterson have sustained success before we know if he’s any good” like 2 comments after saying we should bring up Sproat. Amazing disconnect there.
Sproat already has a better arsenal than Peterson and a projected #2 starter if all goes right. You seem to be banging his drum loudly over a 2.9 era lol for a bit more than half a season.How many years have the Mets been waiting for him to break through!? What do i have to backup?? Go look at Petersons stats and Holmes stats. They speak for themselves! You talk about Peterson like he is DeGrom lol.Holmes is a solid reliever but, we will see if he can pitch 150 innings and give under a 4 era as a #4 ish starter. I see that you are one of these guys that think they are smarter than the rest of the posters. We will revisit the Peterson argument in August/September.he is a backend starter and one small sample of success doesnt make him a sure bet. Ive been a fan of this team since ’84 and the Mets always seem to be a couple players short of a championship caliber team. Cohen is a great owner but Stearns hasnt earned my respect yet.
“Go look at Petersons stats and Holmes stats.”
Um, I did? I literally typed them for you too. You don’t understand them. There’s nothing I can do with someone who doesn’t understand something and doesn’t care to learn.
“Sproat already has a better arsenal than Peterson and a projected #2 starter if all goes right” // “How many years have the Mets been waiting for him to break through!?”
Ok so we’re going to discount the already established careers in favor of projections? Where’s the logic in that?
“Ive been a fan of this team since ’84 and the Mets always seem to be a couple players short of a championship caliber team.”
This has nothing to do with anything but its on par with the rest of your comments as far as usefulness and relevancy to the topic.
“I see that you are one of these guys that think they are smarter than the rest of the posters.”
Just the ones who try to argue that their feelings and emotions are more accurate than data, especially when presented with data then go on to discount it to suit their narrative, like with “Come back when he does it for a few seasons”.
A good measure of intelligence is capacity to change opinion when confronted with conflicting data or facts.
Just to recap with you and why I’m not really gonna go back and forth with you further. You speak largely in hyperbole: “You talk about Peterson like he is DeGrom lol” // “blackburn and megill are crap”.
You don’t use data and discount data when its contrary to your point “are you impressed that Peterson pitched 121 innings with a 2.9 era for 1 season? You are really reaching for positives there.” // “he is a backend starter and one small sample of success doesnt make him a sure bet.” Thats just a weird one man.
Also you are very emotion-driven which is good for fandom but bad for designing a starting rotation or anything really where you have to be objective and practical.
Lol, you must be a computer geek to go totally by stats! U cant calculate ambition, talent, determination by the numbers! Fans like you are the reason why the game has changed so much. U might prefer to sit home and play MLB on your PS 5 and determine results that way. Peterson should be filler at the back end just like Montas, Blackburn, Butto etc…if the Mets are serious about contending, this rotation is subpar and there is no arguing it. Im done with you but lets see how these starters end the season, shall we?? As you were, boy
Ok well me and the other computer geeks, including this very website, the collective analytics departments of all 30 MLB teams, and the rest of the educated world will continue to learn, adapt and evolve while you, like actual polar bears, are left behind. At least ACTUAL polar bears aren’t patronizing on the road to extinction.
The future is now, old man.
I’ve been listening to crap like this for decades now and for decades it fails to promote anything good.
Now we are down to 6 inning pitchers who can’t stay healthy and can’t pitch, and hitting trends equally bad. Sprinkle into this the general lack of talent in the same to cover all the teams and the screwed up rule changes… not only are we not getting better players but the game is almost unwatchable.
go pound your drum on so other sport… Basketball maybe.
BTW Peterson is a mediocre pitcher at best and he has plenty of innings under his belt to prove it.. He is 28 years old and threw 454 innings to a crappy 99 ERA+
That is EH. He is a middle reliever.
They don’t seem to learn or adapt. They seem to burn out pitchers, reduce contact and zone control and can’t get decent fielders,
They didn’t do much with the pitching and it makes me worry. The Dodgers threw 32 scoreless innings in the playoffs. This team has no pitching plan at all right now.
Imagine in 2015 they went to the WS with Harvey, Degrom, Wheeler, Synderguard, Lugo and Matts,
Sterns is not a pitching guy and it not only makes me nervous, but I don’t think you can beat the leading teams in the MLB this way,
That’s inaccurate and unfair to Peterson who had a sub 3 ERA and 2.9 WAR despite not coming up until June (!) …… and he STILL threw 121 IP. That’s better than the average #4 starter by a country mile.
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Not on a team with WS expectations. and he is not young. He is what he is… cannon fodder who can squeeze out some decent innings if he is being used wisely
There are too many guys like this on the Mets, actually..
I would trade him. Maybe some sucker like you will give me something decent for him while his value is maxed out.
Lmao you switched to an alt? Bro
“The Mets were aggressive with short-term targets early on, seemingly unwilling to target pitchers seeking long-term deals and unwilling to risk waiting out the market and being left wanting.”
The Montas signing in particular feels eerily reminiscent of the Mets’ decision to sign James McCann early on to a $40m / 4 year deal, seemingly because of their unwillingness to pursue better options (*Realmuto*) available in the 2020-2021 offseason.