The White Sox plan on keeping Gordon Beckham around for a while, according to White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen. He told Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune not to overreact when Beckham's name comes up in trade rumblings.
"We plan to have Gordon for a long time," Guillen said. "I don't see why people talk about it."
Here's the main reason: Beckham is one of the game's most valuable young players. He posted an .808 OPS as a 22-year-old in his rookie season last year, playing respectable defense at third, a position he'd barely played as a pro.
But Beckham's performance is only part of the reason the White Sox like the idea of keeping him around. He probably won't be arbitration-eligible until after 2012 or eligible for free-agency until after 2015, so the White Sox figure to get a lot of relatively cheap production from Beckham.
ANddddd Adrian Gonzalez can be acquired by the White Sox in a trade that DOESN’T include Beckham..
ANddddd Adrian Gonzalez can NOT be acquired by the White Sox in a trade that DOESN’T include Beckham.. (fixed it for you)
No they can
Name me a package that excludes Beckham that the white sox can offer that is BETTER than anything the Red Sox, Mets, Mariners or Dodgers can offer. This should be funny.
uhhh…that’s not for you to decide…it’s Jim Hoyer and company’s decision, so you asking for a “package” is irrelevant
what you wrote = I can’t do it
alright, that’s settled, so just don’t bother
Here is the thing. It is not that the White Sox can offer the best package possible. They can’t. But if the Peavy trade taught us anything it is that what the other teams are willing to offer.
We got Peavy after everyone in MLB saw the cards we played and saw that SD would take a package like that. They weren’t even that great of prospects, good, but not great. Only one was the even in the BP Top 100 Prospects last year and none this year.
Sure, there were tons of teams that could put a better package together but none did. My point being just because people can put together a better package does not mean they are willing to do it.
The Padres will at least consider it. The Red Sox will have a much better offer, but a decent package that won’t wow the Padres can be assembled from that system.
you didn’t fix anything
Just because the Sox got Peavy on the cheap?
Two totally different situations, so no, why?
Do you honestly think a deal without Beckham will top offers from the Mets, Dodgers, Mariners and most importantly the Red Sox?!? No way no chance, you’re dreaming. Not gonna happen.
How about Alexie Ramirez, Flowers, Viciedo, and Hudson?
that would get kenny williams fired.
A win-win.
Eh, since Viciedo is earning 2.75mil this year and then for the next two, Williams would probably have to kick some money to the Padres for him, Alexei is steal already for what the Sox signed him for – but then again, Alexei isn’t someone the Padres really need taking into consideration Everth Cabrera
they also spent 4 mill just to get the “cuban babe ruth” (even though he sucks) into the sox minor league system! How many errors did he have last season??? Oh let me fill you in 30, he had 30 errors! 30!!!! … by little league standards that’s bad!
haha, what are you implying? he didn’t have 30 errors either, he had 20, and judging a player’s defense by his errors is not a good way to judge defense, his UZR/150 was average and an above average RngR too
Don’t feed the troll.
He had 30! Look it up, 30!
link to baseball-reference.com
Again, you are making a fool of yourself.
You’re making yourself look ignorant by judging a player’s defense strictly off the errors they make, you don’t know much about baseball – but yea, Viciedo doesn’t look too good
30, not 20 it was 30! Look it up! It was a sub .900 fielding percentage. That’s not gonna get you to the pros anytime soon. Oh and he also sucked with the bat, .317 on base with only 12 homers!?! Sure looks like a player living up to all that hype to me!
link to baseball-reference.com
Brian is right, he had 30 and disappointed with his bat too. It was a terrible year for the cuban babe ruth. Not worth the hype.
don’t defend viciendo, he sucked it up last season. sox thought he was maybe a year away from the majors but from his 09 performance it’s now looking like 4-5 years if he makes it at all.
looked it up, viciendo had 30 errors last year, sub-900 fielding percentage. that won’t win any major league job any time soon. oh and he only had 12 homers too, looks like the can’t miss, missed.
I thought he was talking about Alexei -but yea, he’s 20, although his value is low, doesn’t mean he’s going to suck for the rest of his time as a professional, but he was definitely a dud this year, hopefully it’s better this year wherever he starts.
He’s 20 – so settle down.
The Padres don’t want Alexi Ramirez.
The White Sox barely want him themselves.
Plus he’s half way thru his 4year/4 mill contract.
The White Sox barely want him? Really? I mean Really? You tell me who wouldn’t take a short stop who averaged .283 18HR 73RBI per year in his first two years in the majors all while making $1.1MM per year.
Steve, In re-reading my comment, I think your right. The Sox want Alexi for their shortstop, but mostly because of his contract.
A .283 average is 13 points better than Beckham last year, but he still has trouble hitting against good pitchers who can locate the ball. Taking a few more walks would also make Ozzie happy.
Defensively, he can look like the best shortstop in baseball one inning, then look God awful the next.
Anyway, you’re right. Overall, the Sox are probably happy with him as their S.S.
the sox love alexei…that contract is not bad at all. You have no idea if the padres want him or not
The contract is great. The Padres want younger players with contracts under team control (like Beckham’s situation). Alexi is a free agent after 2011.
Also, one of the Padres best prospects is a shortstop.
And that goes with EVERYone – no one knows if GM and Owner are gonna want these random names people pull out of a minor league system just because they’re ranked 12th instead of 18th – no one knows what the front office of a franchise is going to exactly want and prefer
And that goes with EVERYone – no one knows if GM and Owner are gonna want these random names people pull out of a minor league system just because they’re ranked 12th instead of 18th – no one knows what the front office of a franchise is going to exactly want and prefer
What? You’re a little out of touch.
Yeah, they need Beckham around. He’s not only a good kid but a great player.
exactly. they need to keep beckham and sign a free agent power bat to replace konerko in the offseason.
6 years of Beckham>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5 of Gonzalez.
More realistically, I would do Hudson, Flowers, Mitchell, and Danks or Viciedo at the trade deadline. Especially since I feel many of these prospect will boost their stock this season, San Diego will have no choice but to accept.
realistically the Padres are laughing at you.
Don’t stop believin!
File under: OBVIOUS
This is where I see a flaw in drafting the best player available over needs in the draft. The Reds picked one spot before the White Sox and needed a guy who could handle SS and hit…just like Beckham. While drafting the best player available is usually the best strategy, we obviously had a need at SS and there was a player who could have filled that need and is just as good overall as our pick (Alonso). Having Rolen 3B, Beckham SS, Phillips 2B, and Votto 1B would have made one deadly infield.
Now I can only hope Alonso can transfer to the OF or 3B and not be a liability defensively. If not the next best option is dealing him for a top flight SS or C prospect.
While drafting the best player available is smart, sometimes it makes sense to take a need into account if there is a player close enough to being the best player available.
Look what the Mariners got Cliff Lee for…..nothing….and still no one has mentioned any packages from the Mets, Red Sox, Mariners, and please please get the dodgers out of this talk, b/c the Padres aren’t dealing in the division and McCourt can’t pony up the money to sign him to an extension. The Sox can get this deal done with out Bacon, but with some other teams prospects similar to the Doc Holliday trade
Gonzalez won’t be going to White Sox in a 2 team trade if Beckham is not involved. The White Sox just do not have the quality prospects in their farm system to make the trade happen. Maybe if they can find another team that is willing to give up a prospect as good as a Beckham or a Buchholz.
Anybody who thinks the White Sox can get Adrian Gonzalez without including G. Beckham in the trade is braindead. Their farm is way to thin to win a trade without Beckham.
Keith Law, is that you?
As many have said, if the White Sox are willing to gut their already thin system, they have a decent shot. I would think a trade would have to be headlined by Tyler Flowers and Daniel Hudson, two stud prospects. Then, Jordan Danks and another prospect. It’s too bad they traded Brandon Allen for Tony Pena – I still can’t believe that one. If he was included, that would be quite the foursome of prospects, and think that would get it done. They can’t include Mitchell until the middle of the summer, but he’d probably be in the conversation too.
Of course, this could always be posturization, since I don’t see Beckham going for any player not named Adrian.
Right, Brian, you name these teams and you don’t even state names – who do the Mets, Mariners, Dodgers, and Red Sox even have?
But we DO know what the Red Sox have offered already and what the Padres asked the Red Sox for.
According to MLBtraderumors.com, the Padres were asking for Clay Buchholz, Lars Anderson, Jed Lowrie, Ryan Westmoreland, and Justin Masterson on July 31st last season.
According to Buster Olney and MLBTradeRumors.com, the Padres turned down a trade that involved Buchholz, Tazawa, Anderson and two more prospects that were in the top 10 in the Red Sox system.
The Padres are certainly not going to be looking for any less in return for Gonzalez from the White Sox.
The White Sox do NOT have anything close to either of those offers.
Mariners = Ackley, Saunders, Moore, Liddi, Triunfel
Mets = Martinez, Flores, Niese, Mejia, Davis
Dodgers = Billingsley, Elbert, Miller, Gordon, Withrow
Red Sox = Buch, Westmoreland, Kelly, Reddick, Anderson, Kalish + + +
Is that what you’re looking for?? Believe me the Red Sox could offer their top 3-4 guys and the White Sox could offer their TOP TEN prospects and the Padres would go with the Red Sox. Other than Tyler Flowers I don’t see anyone that the white sox have that the padres would want not named GORDON BECKHAM.
lol – what makes you think Zduriencik, Minaya, Colletti, or Theo are going to offer that? What makes you think that’s what Jim Hoyer wants to accept? General Manger Brian M. give valid sources on how these players you’ve named, are better than the White Sox offer, are you gonna go by a blogger’s baseball Top Prospects rankings?
there’s some homework
When that “blogger” is baseball america, yes I’m going with what they have to say. Just stop typing, you’re making a fool of yourself. The point is, other teams have more to offer the padres than the white sox if beckham is taken out of the equation. Facts are facts.
Hahahaha :facepalm: you’re on the outside looking in, Aristotle wants you to think for yourself instead of just agreeing with someone, you are SUCH a troll
And what’s with people making multiple accounts to make it look like they have people backing them up?
Would you stop calling him Jim Hoyer! It’s Jed Hoyer and no we don’t know what the other teams will offer but a deal without Beckham will not be good enough even if you gave us Mitchell, Flowers and Hudson
Will people stop acting like they’re apart of the organization! Stop saying “us” it’s not for you to decide, why don’t people get that?!
stop talking about the intangibles
stop talking about the intangibles
No I won’t stop talking about the team as if I am part of it and the decisions are mine because I have been a founder’s club member since before you were born so I have invested enough capital to where I can say I am as much “Padre” as the brass. Also, this may an intangible but if you like baseball that much you should get the name of a GM correct.
No I won’t stop talking about the team as if I am part of it and the decisions are mine because I have been a founder’s club member since before you were born so I have invested enough capital to where I can say I am as much “Padre” as the brass. Also, this may an intangible but if you like baseball that much you should get the name of a GM correct.
Bringing up me calling the guy “Jim” is completely irrelevant to this whole conversation, if you have no relevant substance to add, which you don’t, then don’t respond – and what you’ve explained hahahaha! you don’t have ANY say to what the upper management is going to do, that and you’re not apart of them either, so saying “us” is still wrong of you to say, dumb