The agent for Adrian Gonzalez told Tim Sullivan of the San Diego Union-Tribune that he sees Mark Teixeira as a fair comparable for his client. John Boggs, who represents Gonzalez, told Padres GM Jed Hoyer the same thing and that basically ended their conversation.
Teixeira signed a $180MM deal with the Yankees last offseason as a 28-year-old. Gonzalez won't be a free agent until after the 2011 season if the Padres pick up his $5.6MM option, but his agent is thinking big already.
“You always shoot high and adjust to the marketplace,” Boggs said of Gonzalez, who will presumably be 29 by the time he hits the market.
Jon Heyman of SI.com hears that while Gonzalez is seeking Teixeira money, the Padres believe a five-year $90MM deal would be more appropriate (Twitter link).
Padres CEO Jeff Moorad said last month that the Padres have doubts that they can keep their first baseman long-term. Gonzalez recently said he expects to be paid what he deserves on his next contract. That doesn't mean the Padres won't extend him, but a deal seems unlikely given that Gonzalez would be a tremendously attractive commodity on the trade market.
He’s not worth that
…says the guy who’s team still owes alfonso soriano $90 million.
yes, how dare you give your opinion Cubnation. Comments are reserved to fans of the more conservative spending teams. You can comment again in 2014.
get off your high horse
lighten up you will longer
im sure whatever you were trying to say was hysterical
apparently not
apparently not
I liked your comment purely for your wintastic name.
He does in fact deserve it.
as well as the team that paid Milton Bradley $20+ million for half a season…
His worth is what the market place will be willing to pay, and he will probably get Texeria like money. He would sure be a hit at dodger stadium the best player from Mexico since Fernando Valenzuela.Soriano had put up some monster numbers before he signed his contract. Not sure if it was injury or lack of desire after getting the big money. That happens to some players the wealth makes them lose there fire. There was no way the cubs could have forseen this.Or just as likely soriano was one of the last of the steroid era to get big money. They do not make them like Mr Cub Ernie Banks anymore.
$180 million??? Have fun with that considering a) The Yankees are likely not involved and b) he won’t be worth that much 6-7 years into that deal.
yep, he’s really gonna have to hire Scott Boras to get even 75%! of what Teixeria got, no way is he gonna get more than 6 years at 17-20 a year
He’s Adam Dunn…not Mark Teixeira
No, he’s Adrián González and wants to be be paid like Mark Teixiera. I’d say he has a point, but I’m not sure the market will completely agree.
Um, what? Agon is easily in top 3 defensive 1b right now. So he has everything except speed on his resume. Not sure why you compare him to Dunn, easily the worst defensively 1B and possibly positional player right now.
Yeah, Adam Dunn is a DH waiting to happen…only it just isn’t happening…yet.
Defense at first base is a vastly overrated concept, most already consider it a place to gamble. And I’ve taken to never taking anyone’s word on who’s a good defender at 1st. Recently I’ve heard gushing over the defense of Ryan Howard and Prince Fielder. While I never hear anyone mention a player like Casey Kotchman who hasn’t made an error since he was an Angel. So call Gonzalez a top 3 defender if you must.
I made the comparison to Dunn because from what I’ve seen he’s closer to a being .260 hitter than .290 hitter. I may be wrong, since he’s had some decent hitting years, but power hitters who don’t hit doubles rely on power and then see their average suffer in the long run. That’s who Adam Dunn is, and who I think Adrian Gonzalez will ultimately become.
Agreed, and while the Adam Dunn comparison really isn’t fair considering Gonzalez will save several more runs over the coarse of a season, when you are trying to sell gold glove defense for a player with a career UZR of 0.1 or any first basement for that matter you are really stretching. Especially when you are talk referencing a contract worth $180 million.
Don’t get me wrong Adrian’s obviously a monster at the plate and whatever team signs him will likely be receiving top notch production for several years, however guaranteeing 8 years at that ridiculous amount of money is insane and almost guaranteed to hurt that team down the stretch when he’s 38 and making around $20 million dollars.
while we’re saying things without the restriction of having to make sense, i’ll just add:
he’s fernando viña, not ruben sierra.
Although I find your attack silly — +10 points to you for the Ruben Sierra reference (best batting stance ever)
I thought the Gonzalez/Teixeira comp was silly too, so I decided to do a little research. From 2004-2007 (age 24-27 seasons) Teixeira hit .292/.379/.552 with a 137 OPS+. From 2005-2009 (age 24-27 seasons) Gonzalez hit .285/.369/.515 with a 139 OPS+ in 75 more plate appearances. Tex has the edge in RBIs and slugging, but when you consider lineups and home parks, the gaps aren’t all that big.
Good data scatterbrian. I’m not a Adrian Gonzalez hater…I guess I’m just not convinced yet. But, it’s hard to argue with those stats.
I can think of one way that they are different…
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
He is worth 10mil less than tex
Tex is a switch hitter, both have GG defense, but tex’s D is better
the red sox don’t seem to have a problem accumulating a ridiculous number of corner infielders, so i don’t see why a-gon should be the exception. but, of course we all know once adrian gonzalez hits the AMERICAN SUPER LEAGUE(I’m pretty sure that’s what they’re calling it) he won’t be much more than a .260-.270 hitter with 10-15 homerun power. let’s not forget how massively superior the junior circuit is. additionally, his CHONE-UZR sucks, and you really don’t want a guy on your team long-term if he doesn’t have a solid CHONE-UZR.
so you’re saying johnny damon has more power than agon? not just power, but damon is better offensively?
basically, yes. when switching from the national to the american league you can pretty much multiply your average by (5/9) and subtract at least 32 RBI from your expected yearly total. now, i know what you’re thinking: that formula looks an awful lot like the one you use to convert between celsius and fahrenheit but, trust me, it holds up.
i would even venture to say that literally every pitcher in the american league could win a cy young in the national league without even really trying that hard. i’m counting LOOGYs.
Wow………..just wow……
you’re telling me j-dame wouldn’t hit 60+ bombs next year if he played in just about national league sandbox?
So you are basically asking me if Johnny Damon would be able to hit 60 Hr’s in Coors? No, he cannot, because hitters MUCH MUCH better than Damon have played there (namely Holliday) and people like them have not been able to hit that many. What makes you think Damon could?
Everyone is Like-Buttoning empathize’s comments, but yours are the source of the laughter.
yeah, definitely. he was hitting in Yankee Stadium, which really depresses offensive output especially for left-handed pull hitters.
you’re an idiot if you think A-Gon has more power than Damon.
“you’re an idiot if you think A-Gon has more power than Damon.”
seriously bro?……
“you’re an idiot if you think A-Gon has more power than Damon”
I think you meant to say “I’m an idiot because I think Damon has more power than A-Gon”
I actually really hope you were joking. If Gonzales played in a hitters park like the new Yankee Stadium or some where like Philadelphia he would CRUSH. The fact remains that he plays in the NL West with 4 of the 5 parks being pitchers parks.
If look at Teixeira’s numbers the reason why he had career highs in HRs and RBIs is because of the stadium that he played in and his protection. Damon tied his career high in HRs strictly because the new Yankee Stadium is a joke. If Gonzales played for the Yankees he would have the most HRs on the team ever year. Period.
“you’re an idiot if you think A-Gon has more power than Damon”
I think you meant to say “I’m an idiot because I think Damon has more power than A-Gon”
I actually really hope you were joking. If Gonzales played in a hitters park like the new Yankee Stadium or some where like Philadelphia he would CRUSH. The fact remains that he plays in the NL West with 4 of the 5 parks being pitchers parks.
If look at Teixeira’s numbers the reason why he had career highs in HRs and RBIs is because of the stadium that he played in and his protection. Damon tied his career high in HRs strictly because the new Yankee Stadium is a joke. If Gonzales played for the Yankees he would have the most HRs on the team ever year. Period.
I’m sorry? This must be the forum for really poor sarcasm…
I’m sorry? This must be the forum for really poor sarcasm…
Jason Bay says hi!
And sarcasm says hi to you!
Does this scientific formula of yours include a player leaving PETCO park?
you think you’ve caught me, but you haven’t.
in response to your question: yes, my formula works for petco, and every other park for that matter. this formula is literally 100% correct. I challenge you to find a single exception.
Jesus people, quit being thick. This is obviously tongue-in-cheek.
“trust me, it holds up.”
Pardon me if I DON’T trust you.
Miguel Cabrera:
2007 Florida: .320
2008 Detroit: (.320 * 5/9 = .178). Actual avg .283
2009 Detroit: .324
Guess we can expect Miguel Tejada to hit .174 wiht 54 RBI. O’s won’t be happy.
Seriously though, keep up the good work. I need the laughs.
You obviously can’t recognize sarcasm when you see it.
…and you obviously can’t recognize someone recognizing sarcasm but acting as if he does not recognize said sarcasm. 🙂
META. but unfortunately you’ve been caught with your pants down on this one. even if your post was some sort of high-level meta-sarcasm, it wasn’t really that funny and no one got it. mine, by contrast, is a heartbreaking work of staggering awesome. see the difference? not getting it FTW!
What?! Damon hit 7 home runs OUTSIDE Yankee Stadium in 2009. Yankee stadium he hit 17. You know…Farm League Yankee Stadium.
you should probably spend more time sucking at being a backup firstbaseman, and less time sucking in trying to understand concepts like “satire” and “irony”. good luck to you, “ike davis”.
you should probably spend more time sucking at being a backup firstbaseman, and less time sucking in trying to understand concepts like “satire” and “irony”. good luck to you, “ike davis”.
Remember he’s been playing in pitcher friendly Petco Park
How are people actually clicking “like” on your posts? Is it yourself doing it? Relatives?
Anyway, please explain (with examples) how a guy goes from being a 40-homer guy in Petco Park to hitting 10-15 in Fenway.
He did.
AMERICAN SUPER LEAGUE
Well this puts the white sox out of the mix for Gonzalez. There’s NO WAY the sox will gut their prospects for a year and a half rental of A-Gon and there’s even less of a chance of them signing him long term. Keep dreaming sox fans, it’s not gonna happen.
Why, it’s not like the White Sox are a midmarket team that can’t afford a major star player. Next year they have about $18.5M coming off the books in Konerko and Pierzynski alone.
but you also have to remember Quentin and Danks have yet to sign long term contracts with them, if Quentin has a great year like he did in ’08, he’ll be signed, if not…I really don’t see a reason for Kenny to keep him, Danks NEEDS to be signed after this season so yea, and i’m pretty sure Pierzynski will be re-signed too, Konerko will part his way…which is gonna be hard to let go
cuz it would be terrible for that team. they aren’t stupid. kenny williams may be crazy but he’s not stupid.
You did read where they would ask and then adjust to the market accordingly. You did see this right? Outside of the Yanks and Red Sox who can pay that? So his price will come down. At that price though I aint dreamin I’ll tell you that right now. I like the way the White Sox have done their payroll in the past and have not handcuffed themselves to bad contracts, although I am iffy on Rios but that is down the road yet. So if he is that much, I aint dreamin I am moving on.
Wow continue to talk about the White Sox like you have a clue you know what you are talking about. 100+ million dollar contracts may not be the way the white sox do business but when (before arb & team options) they are locked in to $45 million in 2012 & $17 million in 2013 they certainly have money to play around with.
haha good luck Gonzo, biggest market in baseball has already solved their 1st base needs for years to come, and the next highest doesn’t need you
but the next highest REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY wants him. 😛
I don’t see how Boston doesn’t need him (Any more than NY needed Teixeira, anyway). The Sox are a 95 win team without him, but Beltre’s only signed for one season and Gonzalez in that lineup makes them even better.
Well, I was gonna let it go about who the next biggest market is, it’s not the Red Sox, it’s LA, but the Red Sox really don’t, they’re fine without him considering they have Youkilis through ’13, but then there’s Ortiz who expires after this season, will they re-sign him or go after Adrian Gonzalez?
First, you should take into account the fact the Sox probably have a bigger out of market fanbase than the Dodgers and Angels, so they essentially are a bigger market in terms of their potential draw.
Second, Youkilis has a career 10.8 UZR at third and it was his original position coming up. With Beltre only signed for one year, sliding Youkilis over to third to make room for Gonzalez is a no-brainer.
FInally, what kind of question is that last one? Can you name a single team that would choose Ortiz over Gonzalez at this point? I don’t care if Ortiz hits .305 with 50 home runs and 100 walks, the Sox will take Gonzalez over Ortiz at this point.
no no no i’m sorry, but you can’t debate the potentials of what can be when it isn’t, saying stuff like “probably” doesn’t make for a strong one either
secondly….and lastly, money, needs, availability, not everything works out the way we want it to, you have to take into account that options can close and close quick – on a side note, i’m not saying that Ortiz is the best choice, and on that same note i think Gonzalez will wind up IN Boston anyways since they’re gonna have quite a few options with contracts and able to part ways with some players in order to make room
The Yankees have put together one of if not the greatest infields to ever take the field. It does not matter if the red sox sign Gonzalez or not they are playing at best 2nd place.
Offensively speaking, the Yanks probably have the best in baseball right now, but they are a far cry from one of the best ever, especially defensively. Cano, Teixeira and A-Rod can all mash and Jeter’s great at hitting for average, but Teixeira is the only one of them who is not a below league average fielder at their position.
You have a third baseman who is going to finish his career with at least 600 home runs, a shortstop with 3000 hits, a first baseman who when all is said an done will be one of the greatest switch hitters of all times. Cano flirts with a .280 to 300 batting average every year. There defense is fine. If you can show me a better infield ever assembled in the modern ball ERA please forward. Of course the only problem is you do not know who was a steroid user but the yankee infield is the genuine article.
You have a third baseman who is going to finish his career with at least 600 home runs, a shortstop with 3000 hits, a first baseman who when all is said an done will be one of the greatest switch hitters of all times. Cano flirts with a .280 to 300 batting average every year. There defense is fine. If you can show me a better infield ever assembled in the modern ball ERA please forward. Of course the only problem is you do not know who was a steroid user but the yankee infield is the genuine article.
You are joking correct?
You are joking correct?
The Yankees have put together one of if not the greatest infields to ever take the field. It does not matter if the red sox sign Gonzalez or not they are playing at best 2nd place.
“biggest market in baseball has already solved their 1st base needs for years to come,”
ummm…u do realize the mets play in new york right ?
and although i love daniel murphy and ike davis…i dont think either one would prevent a-gon from coming to play for the Mets…
that being said, I dont think the wilpons have the stomach for a big contract.
With so many potential options coming out at the same time, it would be to each of their benefit to sign early as the lack of teams competing combined with the amount of 1B/DH’s flooding the market in 2011 will result in non-tex type salaries…think 15-18, not 20-25
Whether he is or is not worth Teixeira money is debatable – and he has another two seasons before free agency to make his case – but the more critical question is what teams will be willing to pay him. If he gets lucky and the Yankees or the Red Sox need a 1B or DH by then, good for him… if not, he’s not going to get Teixeira money regardless of how well he has played.
40 homers in a pitchers park is saying a lot. couple that with the fact that he has no protection at all in that lineup and a solid case can be made that he IS worth that kind of money.
True, considering the dude also played on a bad team. To me anyway that displays some mental toughness just to keep going even though your team is godawful and your organization is rebuilding.
I actually agree with you – I think he is every bit as good as Teixeira. But my point is that you have to have a team willing and able to pay the player that money. Even if he continues to tear it up the next two years, he is going to get stuck with a lesser contract if the Yanks or BoSox aren’t buying, regardless of his resume.
The thing is, the Sox are most definitely going to be interested in buying unless Anderson or Rizzo hits like .750 in AAA this season and gets a September callup with an OPS of like .900 or the entire Cardinals front office goes on a raging drug bender and decide to unload Pujols for a package consisting of Jed Lowrie and third base coach Tim Bogar.
I think A Gon will get something similar to Holliday. The person who said 7 for 120 sounds about right. Not a bad payday i’d say but not Tex territory. I will say that he has 50 HR potential if he gets out of Petco. Tex has played in NY and Texas (launching pads to say the least).
I can see the Mariners jumping in on him.
All the people saying he doesnt deserve Tex like money are missing the fact that this is a guy who was walked over 100 times last year and still put up 40 HR’s. He plays GG defense and is just a beast at the plate.
Does this solidify the sentiment that Adrian will not sign long term deal even if he does get traded? Furthermore, I think this makes it less likely for him to get traded mid-season.
Who would pay him Tex money? Boston? Mets? Who else? I just don’t see a competing market.
Tex got paid because the Yankees had a glaring need at first base last season. At the end of the season, the Yankees will have a need at LF. Enter CC, who will be overpaid because of that necessity. That simply means that the ’11 FA LF class lost out, not that they should expect the same $ during their year.
I think Adrian will have plenty of suitors for a GG 1B who hits 40 HR’s in a a terrible lineup with no help.
Off the top of my head
Mariners
White Sox
A’s
Orioles
Mets
Red Sox
Mets will prob come out the winners though although in all honesty they need a rotation before they stack their lineup
Well… yeah, obviously almost every team can use a gold glove 40HR 1b, but I was referring more so to the contract similarity to Tex. All those teams you listed can use Adrian, but who will be willing to PAY him like Tex? Sorry if I wasn’t clear…
I believe most of those teams if not all would cough up the money to sign Adrian in the 18-20mil range for 6/7 years. Especially the Mets, who will probably be losing Beltran after the 2011 season.
It honestly does no good to have the greatest lineup if your rotation is an ace then 4 #4 starters
That’s an ace, three #4 starters and a #7 starter to you, buddy. Of course they don’t do 7-man rotations…
😉
Reports are Ollie’s been doing really well in camp so far. We’ll get more of a real feel now that ST has begun.
But for 22.5 per year for 8 years? (Tex money) I think not.
Pretty much all of them except the A’s and White Sox, I’d say.
The Mariners have deeper pockets than they’re given credit for and snagging Gonzalez could very well put them in position to be perennial contenders for a playoff spot.
The Orioles were willing to shell out for Tex and argument could be made that Gonzalez may be better than Tex.
The Mets are in dire straights and their management is in disarray, they could easily shell out a truckload of money on him. Unless they do turn out to be having major financial issues, they could be one of the top suitors for him.
The Red Sox have a huge payroll compared to most teams and they’ve got Lowell, Ortiz and Varitek all coming off the books in the next year. Shedding those three contracts while still having the bulk of their squad locked up for the next few years means the Sox would easily have Teixeira money lying around for a player of Gonzalez’s talents.
the more i think of it the more i think A-Gonz would be great for the Orioles offense. He makes more sense than Holliday did and they were said to be going after him.
I see him getting around Matt Holiday money..say 7 for 120? I think thats fair enough, its not tex money but its alot.
i’d say he is a bigger asset than Holliday
If he ever actually becomes a free agent ,the Mets might be out of contention/.That is IF Ike Davis becomes the player the organization wants him to be..He a LH power bat with good defensive skills at 1st base..While the WIlpons are recouping their losses from ponzi schemes ,picking up a big contract like that is doubtful
As a Padre fan, I love Adrian on the team but I think I love more the haul we could get for him. I don’t think we are going to compete while he is under contract, so please, Jed, do like your predecessor and fleece somebody.
The problem being, having said this, Gonzalez’s agents have driven his trade value way down. Teams are a lot less likely to give up an insane haul of players when they’re going to be paying out the nose to keep the player.
Yeah but….come the trade deadline and some team feels they are one player away from contending and it’s a whole nother ball game(pun intended).
Are you talking about the Peavy trade? If you are, the Padres did not fleece anybody.
Time will tell on that trade. One of the young pitchers the padres got looks like he is going to be a good one. If the White Sox can get Peavy off the injured list and preform at a high level the trade will work out for both teams. Logic says when a you trade for a player who is often injured, what will change? I would not call any trade a fleece job. The old baseball axiom is wait 5 years before you evaluate a trade.
Time will tell on that trade. One of the young pitchers the padres got looks like he is going to be a good one. If the White Sox can get Peavy off the injured list and preform at a high level the trade will work out for both teams. Logic says when a you trade for a player who is often injured, what will change? I would not call any trade a fleece job. The old baseball axiom is wait 5 years before you evaluate a trade.
No, I am not talking about the Peavy trade(but time will tell on that trade). But KT was relatively known for getting a lot of value in trades…hence the Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young, Termell Sledge trade for Adam Eaton and Okinori Otsuka, ( and another player I can’t recall at this moment). A couple other that come to mind would be acquiring Heath Bell and Royce Ring for Jon Adkins and Ben Johnson. Another may be acquiring Kevin Kouzmanoff for Josh Barfield. KT was good at ‘fleecing’ teams, it would be interesting to see what Hoyer could get for Gonzalez.
No, I am not talking about the Peavy trade(but time will tell on that trade). But KT was relatively known for getting a lot of value in trades…hence the Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young, Termell Sledge trade for Adam Eaton and Okinori Otsuka, ( and another player I can’t recall at this moment). A couple other that come to mind would be acquiring Heath Bell and Royce Ring for Jon Adkins and Ben Johnson. Another may be acquiring Kevin Kouzmanoff for Josh Barfield. KT was good at ‘fleecing’ teams, it would be interesting to see what Hoyer could get for Gonzalez.
Are you talking about the Peavy trade? If you are, the Padres did not fleece anybody.
The Teix comparison isn’t that far off, really.
Adrian has anchored some terrible lineups and has played his entire career in the worst HR hitting environment in the majors. Teix has played in 4 stadiums, two of which being extreme hitters parks.
I think the best way to say it is he deserves Tex money(except for the switch hitting, they are VERY similar players, and Agon is playing in the most-pitcher park in the league for 1/2 his games). However, he wont get it. The market will not allow him to get it. He will get more than Holliday because he plays a harder position, and does it better. My guess, is 7/140…
I still see the the Mariners going for Gonzalez at the trade deadline.. and enough is enough with people saying they have no one to trade.. bullcrap.. they now have a deep bench and i can assure you that garko and kotchman won’t both be in Seattle if they are going to go out and get this guy.. and as far as money there is no way in hell he is getting what tex got.. in fact gm’s are probably laughing at this because for one the yankees won’t be involved and two no one else will be able to offer that kind of dough
A lot of G.M.’s will back off for a good long while after hearing that number.
Looks like we can stop with the Gonzalez to the White Sox chit-chat for a while.
And why is that? I love all the Cubs fans who think they are experts on the Sox
I’m not an expert on the Sox. I just don’t see Kenny trading Beckham for the right to sign Gonzalez for 120-140 mill. I think he’d rather have Beckham for a small fraction of that money.
Gutting your farm system and handing out $100 million plus at the same time is a bad equation.
I love how the Dodgers are connected to him when everyone knows that they are so dam cheap there is no way they will get him. I could see there offer now 6 yrs 100 million with 80 million deferred over the next 50 years.
Yankees wont be involved and there are 3 other better 1B that will hit FA the same time as him (Pujols, Howard and Fielder). No way he gets that deal… This is silly…
This discussion is completely irrelevant because Teixeira was vastly overpayed and the only team that overpays players like that will not be in the bidding.
*Ding ding ding* We have a winner everybody!! 🙂
Yanks will have no interest in A-Gonz. Unless Beltre is a bust the Red Sox will have no real interest. They have Yuk who is as good as they come. Philly doesn’t need him….So….Mets, Dodgers, Cubs White Sox and perhaps the Angels might be willing shell out $100M+/6/yrs…I can’t think of anyone else…
Yeah, $180 Million over 8 or 9 years, plus 6 or 7 of our best prospects/superb young players under team control (e.g., Ellsbury and Buchholz)? I wouldn’t balk if he was an FA and it was just the money and the years, but the Pads are looking for a massive haul on talent for the rights to bargain with him. If the Pads were willing to move him now with only $10 million+ for 2 years, it might be doable; they gotta pass along the deep discount now to get the haul on talent. Otherwise, I wouldn’t be willing to give up anywhere near the that much talent. Let the ChiSox or Mets dig that hole for themselves. I am certain that the Mets don’t have the quantity and quality of young talent to draw the Pads’ interest. The ChiSox certainly do. Its the talent to the Pads that is the deal killer.
Adrian Gonzalez > Myself
Does anyone think that Mark Tex money is unreasonable? Not that AGon is not worth the money, but with the yankees off the table will any other team really go that high?
He’d be good with the mets. It’s a national league team in a pitcher-friendly ballpark, just like at Petco. And he still managed to belt 40 HRs. The mets have money, don’t listen to what the front office says, they can easily afford him. Plus, he’d be backed up by Jason Bay, David Wright, Carlos Beltran, Jose Reyes and Jeff Francoeur. Add him, plus another ace and health and you’ll get mets world championship.
actually by the time he’s a FA Beltran will be gone.
“Add him, plus another ace and health and you’ll get mets world championship.”
You are a pud. throw that comment in with the Marlins, Braves, Brewers, Cubs, Dodgers, Rockies, Giants, Mariners, Rangers, Angels, Twins….. About 23 other teams. Oh please oh please can we buy a series title!? You are probly the dumbest type of baseball fan. The mets suck. Their front office down to their batboys. Face it
“Add him, plus another ace and health and you’ll get mets world championship.”
You are a pud. throw that comment in with the Marlins, Braves, Brewers, Cubs, Dodgers, Rockies, Giants, Mariners, Rangers, Angels, Twins….. About 23 other teams. Oh please oh please can we buy a series title!? You are probly the dumbest type of baseball fan. The mets suck. Their front office down to their batboys. Face it
The only team that really seems to make sense for A-Gon is Boston.
The Mets would kill to have him, but they don’t have the package of prospects to win over San Diego, especially compared to Boston.
The White Sox might have the pieces to trade, but the Padres would demand Beckham, so that won’t work.
I’m not familiar with the farm system of the Rangers, but I can’t imagine their current financial situation would let them entertain the idea of signing Adrian long-term. Yes, Nolan and his pals bought out the team, but I don’t think we have a real idea of that group’s spending power/habits. Plus, they might want to take a season to assess the team’s financial stability before tying the franchise’s future to one player.
The Mariners might be a great sleeper pick, especially with only Kotchman in the way at first. Kotchman could remain at 1st while Adrian moves to DH, or they split time, or trade Kotchman to San Diego with prospects. The Mariners certainly have the money, Jack Z. certainly has the wits to pull off such a deal, and such a move might be necessary to put that team ahead of the powerhouses of the AL.
Finally, don’t laugh, but Detroit could be a real surprise entrant. True, they dumped some salary in Curtis Granderson and Placido Polanco, but then, they turned around and picked up Johnny Damon. Cabrera may be the lone offensive weapon Detroit owns by the end of the year without a major mid-season acquisition – getting someone like Gonzalez (who they can afford, even in the depressed Detroit market) might be the sort of thing to keep a guy like Justin Verlander happy (who has agreed to stay in Detroit partially due to the Tigers’ supposed commitment to winning). Detroit is a long shot, but still a possibility. I don’t really see it happening, especially after such a retarded move like getting rid of Grandy in the first place – but stranger things have happened.
I really think Gonzalez ends up in the AL, because most of the frontrunners (who would pay his probable demands) in the NL seem to be set at first base. I’d rule out the Astros, Marlins and Braves paying him any significant amount of money, and I can’t imagine the Padres trading in-division.
The Red Sox, who are the only ones besides the Yanks that can afford such a contract, seem unwilling of late to trade any pitchers or top prospects for a hitter, believing that hitters are much easier to acquire during the course of a season.
So the Padres are stuck with him unless and until some other club is willing to destroy their farm system for a 1 to 1.5 year rental.