Big names have traditionally been traded on July 29th, including Cliff Lee and Mark Teixeira in recent years. Perhaps today we'll add Roy Oswalt to the list. Links for Thursday with about 51 hours until the deadline…
- The Tigers have designated Jeff Larish for assignment, according to the team.
- I discussed the Mets and Yankees with SNY's Ted Berg earlier today.
- The Yankees were open to building a Dan Haren deal around Joba Chamberlain, Ivan Nova, and two prospects, reports Tom Krasovic of AOL FanHouse.
- The Orioles may be concerned about making their team even worse by trading veterans, reports ESPN's Buster Olney.
- Shi Davidi of the Canadian Press analyzes Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos based on his major trades so far.
- The White Sox and Mets were on hand to watch the Blue Jays beat the Orioles last night, tweets Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun. Trade bait on the field for Toronto: Jose Bautista, Lyle Overbay, John Buck, Edwin Encarnacion, Jason Frasor, and Kevin Gregg.
- The Mets think they can trade Jeff Francoeur in August after he clears waivers, tweets ESPN's Jerry Crasnick. The problem with that, in my opinion: he doesn't offer much for a contender, and other teams may not care to acquire a guy who's certain to hit the free agent market as a non-tender.
- The Rays' two biggest trade targets were Jayson Werth and David DeJesus, who are now off the board. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports explains that Adam Dunn and Prince Fielder don't hold the same appeal to Andrew Friedman and company.
- Pirates reliever D.J. Carrasco would welcome a trade to a contender, based on comments made to MLB.com's Jenifer Langosch. Carrasco's cheap and under team control through 2012, though keep in mind the White Sox non-tendered him in December coming off a similarly decent year.
- The Braves acquired second baseman Michael Noboa from the Diamondbacks for a player to be named later or cash, MLBTR has learned.
please trade bautista, not because i dont like him, i think he is an awesome blue collar player but because you always see teams think they are closer to competing than they really are. the jays need to target 2 years down the road and get as many young players who will be ready then, not keep someone who will need a raise and might be a fluke.
NOBOA! Take that Phillies! you can have Oswalt, we got some 2nd baseman ive never heard of
I’d love for the White Sox to take a chance on Jose Bautista. I’ve been waiting for him to cool off all season and he keeps surprising me. If we could put him at 3B and trade Teahen I’d be ok with it. I’d love to see what he could do at the short porches at “The Cell”.
You can have him ….
for Beckham
In today’s performance, the part of Alex Anthopoulos will be played by Mike Rizzo.
Um…no.
He’s really quite terrible at 3B. If you’re trading for Bautista, you want him primarily in the OF with the occasional fill-in spot at 3B.
He’s terrible at 3B? Since when?
Well, we could also plug him in at DH. Bautista > Kotsay.
haha, Francoeur!!
the mets are ridiculous. if the wilpons keep omar on past this year then you know for certain that they are just messing with the fans. Jeff Francoeur
Oh come on, lots of GMs build top-five payroll teams that miss the playoffs four straight years and keep their jobs. Stop unfairly discriminating.
I understand the Yomiuri Giants have offered a plate of sushi AND the chopsticks in return for Francoeur!
Bautista needs to go. he is never going to be as valuable as he is right now. I don’t believe he can keep up the numbers he is producing through the rest of the season let alone next season going forward. arbitration eligible he is going to get a big raise based on this seasons numbers, and then next season when he falls back down the his regular numbers he is going to be way overpriced.
John Buck can go, and then bring up JP Arencibia.
Overbay can go, and then bring up Brett Wallace.
the relievers can go.. Gregg, Frasor, Downs.
Encarnacion is someone I wouldn’t mind keeping. unless you can get a good prospect for him, but I’m not sure i see that happening.
That’s what people said 3 months ago, 2 months ago, a the all-star break. The rest of the season is right now and he’s proving everyone wrong.
Even if he doesn’t produce the way he has been this year next year, as long as he contributes he still offers the Jays a great defensive arm and the role of a great mediator between the American and Latino players on the team.
I think they’re locking him up this off-season unless they are blown away-which nobody seems to be doing.
Bautista 2010 = Adam Lind 2009
Also, I think any team giving up much for Jose Bautista is just silly. He is playing so far over his head right now that its not even funny. He has doubled his previous season high home run total, nearly doubled his rbi average per year, slugging 150 points over average, and an ops+ 53 points over average. You dont go from being a bench utility player to a league home run leader.
He just did, and he continues to do so.
rediculous comments on Bautista here. The guy is only 29, has never been given a chance to play full time and this notion of cooling off is just dumb. He may be the most consistent power hitter in the league since September (he did lead the league in homeruns for Sept and Oct last season as well.) He may not be a perenial 45 HR guy, but with everyday playing time, he has shown the power numbers in the past to be a 30+ guy. I’ll take that from a corner infeilder/outfielder he has a canon for an arm every day of the week. If you don’t watch him, you can’t comment. It’s not like the guy is just hitting fastballs out. he can smack anything given to him, he can play 5 different positions well above the league average and is still a bargain. Keep hoping your teams (whoever they may be) can get him on the cheap. It aint gonna happen. Its not like JP is still running the team.
Bautista wasn’t playing in October dude because the season was over… AND he plays 3 positions not 5. I’m a Jays fan and agree with some of what you said but c’mon man get your facts right and stop over-promoting this guy.
Uh “dude”, Bautista hit 2 HR in October last year. The Jays’ season ended Oct 4. And he’s played 4 positions this year (1B, 3B, CF, RF) and has logged innings at 6 positions in his career (1B, 2B, 3B, LF, CF, RF).
Alright I stand corrected. I didn’t realize he had played so much CF. The 29 and 38 innings at 1B and 2B should not exactly qualify him as “experienced” at that position however. Thanks for pointing that out though.
No, he can’t play five positions well above average.
Bautista has had at least 340 at bats each of the last 4 years…. its not like this is his first chance to play. He has never, until this season, shown the power to be a 30+ HR per year guy.
Maybe he just suddenly figured something out this year. But that seems pretty risky if you have to give up much to get him.
Right handed bat makes no sense for the White Sox. However, Lyle Overbay does being a LH bat that can play first and DH. Wouldn’t be surprised at all. Bautista would be a good pick up but already have too many RH hitters as it is.
Okay so let me comment on the inaccuracies listed above in response to my comments. A) he played 3 games in October last year and hit a home run B) 340 at bats is barely more than half a season. How much of a groove would you get into if you only played every second day? In a 600 at bat season using the seasons in which he hit 15 and 16 homeruns, he would be between 25-30 homeruns. I’ve allowed for a little bit of an increase with the fact that playing everyday allows you to get into more of a comfort zone C) he actually is an excellent defensive 3rd baseman, left feilder, right feilder, and first baseman. I’ll give you that center is iffy, but that arm could make up for almost anything he does wrong. D)How the hell do you go about overpromoting a guy who in the last 135 games (including sept last year) has 41 homerund and 103 RBI’s? He also was in the top 3 for spring training home runs.
Bottom line is, you dont give him up on the cheap. Trade him? maybe, but if Montero+/Brown/whoever the number 1 prospect in the buyers team isnt included, you keep a guy who just keeps going and going like the energizer bunny.
Take of the rose-coloured glasses. Bautista is NOT a good 3B, and is only a good RF because he has a cannon. His UZR/150 at 3B this year is -20.8. In the only seasons where he’s actually had a real number of chances at 3B, those numbers are -12.2 and -6.7.
For the record, he’s a career -10.6 at 3B.
And of course UZR is the best stat to use, right? Considering the sample size is so small, UZR is probably the worse stat you can use. 1 or 2 errors balloon the numbers. Watch him play and you will understand. Question is, if you are the Jays, who is a better long term option? Encarnacion or Bautista?
Watch him play? I’ve been watching him play all season (and last season). The only reason he looks any good to you at all is because Encarnacion is so terrible. Neither of them is a long term solution at the position.
And as for sample size, that’s why I mentioned the seasons where he’s had the most chances, and then his career numbers. I agree that UZR/150 isn’t infallible, but there’s NOTHING to suggest he’s actually even decent at the position, let alone “excellent.”
he’s played 2698 innings at 3B in his career – seems like a large enough sample size to me.
Just wondering where you find UZR stats? I had always thought he was above average at 3B as well.
You don’t want to talk about sample size with Bautista, because then we’re going to talk about what he’s done offensively and defensively the vast majority of his career. The poor rate stats, the teams that moved him, the teams that benched him, the teams that switched him to easier positions.
If the Yankees were willing to work that type of deal for Haren wtf were the Dbacks thinking?
That’s just it, apparently nothing.
Probably (and unfortunately) about Haren’s preference to stay on the West coast. I understand their loyalty and wanting to do right by Haren since he gave a lot to the club, but from a business stand point, seeing stuff like this makes you scratch the sking off your head.
Who is Michael Noboa?? I’m guessing he’s a minor league player?
He is the Braves answer to Oswalt, No way Braves hang with Giants for wild card and Phillies for division if they dont make a move
Yes I would like to talk sample size. Lets talk full seasons not 5 games here, 3 games there broken up weeks apart. You guys make me think you have never played sports of any kind. Get it straight, if you play something every day, day in and day out, you become better just from fact of repetition.
Every one of you downplaying Bautista’s worth will be the first ones on here touting him as the second coming of Mickey Mantle the second one of your teams was able to trade fo him (which I dont see happening). Get off the high horse and look at the player, not just the stats. 30 HR, 75 RBI, 9 assists, dont tell the whole story.
Bottom line, I’m a Jays fan, and there isnt much out there that I would trade Bautista for straight up and be happy about it. That includes the Monteros and Browns of the world. Now if it were those guys plus something, okay. Don’t give me a maybe later for a for sure right now.
I’m a Jays fan too, and you’re making no sense. First you’re saying he’s an “excellent” defensive 3B, then you’re saying he can’t be properly evaluated because he plays 3 games here 5 games there, etc. And I was never downplaying his worth. I don’t think he’s THIS good, but I do think he’s taken a step forward in his career and will be better than his career hitting numbers suggest. I was merely trying to correctly play his worth, which is as a solid RF with a cannon for an arm who can hit for power. He CAN play the infield, but he should only be there on a fill-in basis. You’re the one not properly valuing him.
I was under the impression the Yankees were NOT willing to include Joba, hence it didn’t get done. I would value their package higher than the one LA put forth for Haren.
Take that Atlanta and Philly we respond with Carlos Beltran hes our midseason acquistition XD.
I agree that right now the deal looks like crap from a die-hard D’Backs perspective. But is there anyway the prospects in return can blossom. Especially Skaggs, also we dumped a good amount of salary, and I pray that money goes to the bullpen for next year. This years bullpen has embarrassed me beyond belief.
According to Heyman, Mets have rejected a deal for Downs:
“The Blue Jays asked the Mets for top outfield prospect Kirk Nieuwenhuis plus another prospect in exchange for reliever Scott Downs. The Mets don’t want to give up Nieuwenhuis, a 22-year-old outfielder at Double-A who is batting .290 with 16 home runs and 58 RBIs.”
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/07/29/deadline.news/index.html#ixzz0v6GDUbmh
Bautista has already been quoted by the local press as saying he likes Toronto and wants to sign a multi-year deal. Unless a team wows the new GM, I say keep him.
//The Yankees were open to building a Dan Haren deal around Joba Chamberlain, Ivan Nova, and two prospects, reports Tom Krasovic of AOL FanHouse.//
lol, what was Arizona thinking.
That Joba sucks?
Joba sucks?
Joba sucks?
Also, wait, wasn’t Arizona the one who asked for Joba and NY said no? And then NY was willing to work out a deal and . . . Arizona went and got a bunch of nothing for Haren?
Also, wait, wasn’t Arizona the one who asked for Joba and NY said no? And then NY was willing to work out a deal and . . . Arizona went and got a bunch of nothing for Haren?
The Jeff Larish era in Detroit is over. After five days.
Bautista playing 3B is nice for the jays because they are weak there, not because he’s a particularly skilled 3Bman. That flexibility increases his value greatly to the jays but not so much to other teams. So I don’t believe he will be traded unless they get blown away with a great prospect like a joba or whatever. But because of the disparity in value to each team I don’t think it will happen.
I hope AZ takes a flier on Jeff Larish, he went to ASU. Can be AAA depth when we call up Brandon Allen or can be a UT 1B/3B/LF.
He’d probably get a lot more consistent playing time in Arizona too.
I hope AZ takes a flier on Jeff Larish, he went to ASU. Can be AAA depth when we call up Brandon Allen or can be a UT 1B/3B/LF.
Michael who?
And yeah, the Bravos need to make a move for a bat. Admit a mistake with McLouth, try to dump him somewhere, and get an OF that can actually hit, please.