Not only are the Dodgers interested in Johnny Damon and a number of catchers, they're attempting to sign one or two setup men, according to ESPN.com's Jayson Stark. Jesse Crain, Jason Frasor and Matt Guerrier are high on their shopping list.
Crain, a Type B free agent, declined arbitration from the Twins, but he won't cost the Dodgers or any other team a draft pick. Since Guerrier was not offered arbitration, he won't cost a top draft pick, either. Frasor, a former Dodger farmhand, would have cost a top pick, but he accepted arbitration from the Blue Jays.
Dodgers GM Ned Colletti has locked up Ted Lilly, Hiroki Kuroda, Jon Garland, Juan Uribe, Jay Gibbons and Dana Eveland since the regular season ended. Los Angeles also acquired Blake Hawksworth for Ryan Theriot today.
Dodgers have certainly been far more aggressive than I expected.
If the Dodgers snag Frasor before he accepts arbitration, I may have to name my first born after Coletti.
If Colletti gives up a draft pick for a RP he better not pass me on the street.
He’s not going to have to. The Dodgers have a protected first round pick.
He said “draft pick” — not just a first but any pick.
But colleti wouldn’t be giving it up…The Jays would get a comp pick but Dodgers wouldnt give up anything…
Guess what, too late! Frasor accepted!
Frasor is a Type A and despite the protected pick, Dodgers would still have to give up a pick and in this case, it would be a 2nd rounder. Jays also get a supplemental pick.
And yes, Frasor is accepting his arbitration or so Mike Wilner says but he’s not a reporter or anything so it’s possible it could be wrong but I doubt it.
Yes, but why lose a second round pick for a relief pitcher when we have bigger needs. Left field, Catcher and Third all need upgrades. Even Loney should not be secure in his job.
I don’t care about the pick if it is for anything else but a RP…I am so afraid to refresh the page now!
I think Jesse Crain and Guerrier would be great fits…Although I’d like to see the other one sign with the Mets.
they wont sign any of the names above….and they will bring back Jeff Weaver
Ned Colletti has really had a tremendous off-season thus far…The Dodgers are looking really good for next season.
That’s what everyone said about the D’Backs last offseason too lol.
Diamondbacks? Really? I remember everyone raving about the Mariners, not the Dbacks. What did the Dbacks do aside from acquiring Edwin Jackson and signing Adam LaRoche and Kelly Johnson?
Oh them too. I’m just saying. I remember some people last year were like Webb-Haren-Jackson-Kennedy are going to be the best 1-4 in baseball. The Dodgers get an inning eater, extend an old soft tossing lefty, overpay for Uribe, and now they look good? Their OF defense is scary and their 3rd and 1st basemen are not too good either. Even though I don’t like Russell Martin (SIRM!), he’s a fine (not amazing) catcher. Their defense is still terrible. Also, I think Torre may have broke Broxton lol.
I’d like to laugh this one off, but actually I hope the frisbee tosser from Simi Valley at least comes back to Spring Training. Monasterios’ should probably get a look at LR/MR, but at least he now can go to Albuquerque if he needs some tuning without being offered back to Philly, and finally, I already have some friends at the State Department trying to screw up Bellasario’s visa again, so hopefully he won’t be an issue. All but the last part is true, of course. Just no more Ortiz’s.
Yeah, Id love to see him back too. I dig the whole lil bro in Anaheim thing too.. the parents are funny with their half Dodgers/Angels jerseys.
I’d like to laugh this one off, but actually I hope the frisbee tosser from Simi Valley at least comes back to Spring Training. Monasterios’ should probably get a look at LR/MR, but at least he now can go to Albuquerque if he needs some tuning without being offered back to Philly, and finally, I already have some friends at the State Department trying to screw up Bellasario’s visa again, so hopefully he won’t be an issue. All but the last part is true, of course. Just no more Ortiz’s.
We don’t need no stinking relievers! Especially with the team needing a left fielder and an answer behind the plate. As I see it now, with Broxton, Kuo, Jansen, Belisario, Hawksworth, Troncoso and likely Elbert, why would Ned want to complicate his lot by adding Crain or Frasor? It isn’t like there are no relievers at Albuquerque.
They could use another reliever. Belisario and Troncoso were really shaky last season, not to mention Broxton. I am extremely optimistic about Jansen, but we do need to keep in mind how long he’s been pitching.
That being said, I’d rather sign a 1B and then trade Loney for the relief help.
PLEASE TAKE JASON FRASOR
If 2 of Kemp, Ethier and Loney (or less likely Martin) perform at the level that they are capable of, the Dodgers could very well be contenders next year.
I think Colletti just made a great move by trading Ryan Theriot right before Thursday’s deadline, and we got a pitcher from the Cardinals who have an amazing pitching coach and staff.
We have a set five man rotation that rivals any team in the NL west. We just got Juan Uribe an infielder that can put up 20+HR a year who can play 2nd, SS, 3rd exactly what we needed.
We all knew George Sherill wasn’t coming back and if he dose its gonna be for very cheap,so now Colletti is going out there to try and sign a proven middle reliever?!
And all before the winter GM meetings?!
I think its looking pretty good.
And for the people who think the Dodgers are hopeless you must not be from L.A. because out here “Hope dies Last” Go Blue!!!
what difference does it make that you got a guy from the cardinals who have an amazing pitching coach and staff? If Dave Duncan can’t turn Hawk into something good, well, lets just say the odds aren’t great he’ll be something in LA.
Personally, I just think Ryan Theriot fits the Cardinals mold, and I personally think Hawksworth will not be great, but I can see him putting up like a 3.60 ERA in 60 innings in middle relief.
He had really good numbers as a reliever 2 years ago, hopefully he can repeat
He had really good numbers as a reliever 2 years ago, hopefully he can repeat
All the respect in the world for Duncan, but Hawk looked just fine as a RP. Starting on the other hand…
Your totally right. I was just saying that if we were gonna non tender Theriot on Thursday anyway better to get something than nothing. And if was gonna be a Pitcher im glad its from the red birds, and from what i know he’s not that bad he just lost his job to injury.
Honestly, Ned was just taking what he could get. Hawksworth is a guy whose production can be matched by someone from Albequerque
Have you looked at his stats 2 years ago when he was only a reliever??? Probably not so i’ll just let you know they were pretty good. Last year he started and by his numbers he won’t be a starter for the dodgers but they don’t need one. So as far as him being a reliever i’m stoked cuz he’s shown some promise.
his numbers were just as bad in relief.
2009??? 2.03 era in 40 innings…
Problem is, it’s going to be 2011, not 2009. The fact the Cards gave him up KNOWING Theriot was going to be non tendered speaks volumes.
2009??? 2.03 era in 40 innings…
Have you looked at his stats 2 years ago when he was only a reliever??? Probably not so i’ll just let you know they were pretty good. Last year he started and by his numbers he won’t be a starter for the dodgers but they don’t need one. So as far as him being a reliever i’m stoked cuz he’s shown some promise.
I dont think so, Theriot is a top of the order bat (maybe not a good one, but hopefully, you get my point) that can play both middle infield positions well. Im sure there was a market for him.
At $3m for a .321 OBP and .312 SLG? I doubt there was much of a market.
Shocking to me that any team sees Theriot as anything more than a utility player.
If Nick Green fan find a ML job, Ryan Theriot will always be employed.
Not saying he shouldn’t be employed… he just shouldn’t be a starter.
Honestly, Ned was just taking what he could get. Hawksworth is a guy whose production can be matched by someone from Albequerque
Your totally right. I was just saying that if we were gonna non tender Theriot on Thursday anyway better to get something than nothing. And if was gonna be a Pitcher im glad its from the red birds, and from what i know he’s not that bad he just lost his job to injury.
Rick Honeycutt is probably just as good, if not better than, Dave Duncan.
How stupid would it look if the Dodgers, who traded Jason Frasor to the Jays in the first place for nothing, would give up a first round draft pick to sign him to a multi-year deal.
Uhh it’s already being reported Frasor is accepting his arbitration and Dodgers have a protected pick.
Can’t be stupid when it’s not possible.
2004/03/30 Toronto Blue Jays traded Jayson Werth to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Jason Frasor.
The Jays gave up talent to get Frasor initially. It’s not their fault the Dodgers didn’t use it.
i would have liked to have seen them go after saito. seems like a good fit.
I agree. He had that plasma injection in his elbow (I think), and I remember it was one of the first ones they had ever done. I think Randy Wolf had the same injection when he was in LA, and they didnt resign him either. Russell J.Martin was the lucky recipitent of that injection last year. Hmmmmmm…
i would have liked to have seen them go after saito. seems like a good fit.
Some Dodger fans in another blog were talking about how great their relief pitching was, but this is a sign that all is not well in the bullpen. Aside from Kuo, they don’t strike fear, and their closer is all messed up. They also have holes at catcher, left field, and I wonder how Loney is taking all this talk about moving him. Damon for LF? Fine with me.
Don’t any of you Dodger fans understand that the Cardinals knew he was going to be non tendered after the overpayment to Uribe? So you think they would give up someone they still had any faith in? They could have waited a couple of days and signed him. Colletti’s coup in this is the money he saved, not that he got a pitcher for Theriot.
one good thing about the giants winning the WS was that it lit a fire under the Dodgers’ collectives butts – last year – Jamey Carroll was it, this year they are much more aggressive.
All I want for Christmas is Adam Dunn.
Completely agree. I think that would work out great…Although this may sound crazy, don’t be surprised if the Marlins sign one more reliever, a “sure thing”, that is…
I’m talking about Guerrier.
Agree, Crain is ideal for the Mets and I am actually surprised we haven’t heard anything linking these two together. It could very well be that Crain’s asking price is just too high for Alderson.
Agree, Crain is ideal for the Mets and I am actually surprised we haven’t heard anything linking these two together. It could very well be that Crain’s asking price is just too high for Alderson.
I don’t believe the Dodgers are being stupid. Now if they sign Oliver Perez as a long lefty reliever, then they’re stupid, until then, no.
bottom line is some team was going to get uribe…dodgers did over pay for him, but, not only will he add some pressure at the top of the order, the dodgers prevented the giants from signing him.
Giants were willing to match, and they took Tejada for one year (who can’t play second), so it’s not as though they were Kevin Browning…errrr, bidding against themselves. Jesse Crain would be nice, Johnny Damon would be a LAUGHER. To start? Ludicrous. Bench? Not only would he not go for it (even though he needs to consider it, albeit somewhere else), Delwyn Young is a good fit for that role, at a far better price. Not the worlds biggest Dunn fan, but cripes, for the 4/60 that was thrown out there earlier, why not come in at a 3/47MM play?
Giants were willing to match, and they took Tejada for one year (who can’t play second), so it’s not as though they were Kevin Browning…errrr, bidding against themselves. Jesse Crain would be nice, Johnny Damon would be a LAUGHER. To start? Ludicrous. Bench? Not only would he not go for it (even though he needs to consider it, albeit somewhere else), Delwyn Young is a good fit for that role, at a far better price. Not the worlds biggest Dunn fan, but cripes, for the 4/60 that was thrown out there earlier, why not come in at a 3/47MM play?
Dodgers overpayed for Uribe, no doubt, but the team did get better once he signed the dotten line.
Since when did OBP become the key to how good a hitter is. He doesn’t strikeout much nor does he walk much. I think anytime you can replace a .280 2 hr 40 rbi (estimation) guy with a .250 20 hr 70 rbi guy in an anemic offense that the dodgers had in the 2nd half is a god damn success. Dodgers need guys to drive in runs not get on base. And they kept a key player away from the World Series winning giants. 3 years or not, Uribe makes the Dodgers better and Giants worse. Can you imagine if the Giants didn’t have Uribe last year??? Panda would’ve been forced to play and they wouldn’t have had a SS when Renteria got hurt and honestly Renteria sucks.
Yes. Because signing a guy coming off his worst season to a 6.5 mil contract is a tremendous move. Especially considering the fact that he’s getting a raise.
If Alderson can snag Chris Young and Jesse Crain I would be very happy in an offseason where the Mets just don’t have a lot of financial flexibility.
If Alderson can snag Chris Young and Jesse Crain I would be very happy in an offseason where the Mets just don’t have a lot of financial flexibility.
Thing is, Kuroda, Lilly and Garland are all #3 quality guys, too. Every single pitcher in the Dodgers rotation had an ERA below 3.65 and pitched over 190 innings last season. That’s darn good. (And remember, Lilly wasn’t with the Dodgers through most of the 2010 season, and instead of Garland they had Haeger/Ely/Monasterios/Ortiz/McDonald who combined for over 20 losses and an ERA over 6.50.)
Kemp, Ethier, Furcal and Uribe are a good foundation for the lineup. The outcome of their 2011 season will depend on the production they get from 1B, 3B and LF.
As is, I’d say this Dodger team finishes 2nd. If they get another quality bat or two, they win the division.
Having a rotation of 5 guys who all pitched over 190 innings of under 3.65 ERA baseball last season is a bad move?
I’d rather have Lilly and Garland with some league minimum guy like Gibbons in LF than Crawford out there with Ely and Monasterios holding down the #4 and #5 spots in the rotation, thank you. Crawford wasn’t going to be the difference in the Dodgers winning the division.
Ned has made the right moves so far. He just needs to finalize it by picking up Dunn or, at the very least, Lee, Pena or LaRoche. Then trade Loney for relief help or in a package for a LFer.
Yes woopy we haven’t had power on the infield for a while, so Uribe brings that to the team. I mean there are not that many second baseman out in the open market that can hit 20+HR a year. So unless we were gonna somehow trade for Chase Utley or Dan Uggla, who both get paid more than $10m per year, $7m for Juan Uribe is a pretty good sign for the Dodgers.
Hey the guy had no problem getting on base at Dodger Stadium, and we learned that the hard way. He can play 2nd, SS, and 3rd exactly what we needed.
Hawksworth has 5.12 FIP? Well I didn’t know that but thanks for taking the time to look up that stat for all of us. And its a good thing the Dodgers wont have to worrie about that 5.12FIP with Kershaw, Billingsley,Lilly, Kuroda, and Garland.
Ned Colletti has made a lot of bonehead moves in the past, but the past is the past and the future is looking good.
Perhaps a 3 team deal with Baltimore, Washington, and LA.
Baltimore gets James Loney, Roger Bernadina and a B level prospect from LA
Washington gets Nolan Reimold, Carlos Monasterios and Jeremy Guthrie
LA gets Josh Willingham and Jim Johnson
This solves some issues for each team. Washington gets a guy who can replace Willingham in LF plus they add a mid-rotation starter and a guy who can add depth in the pen or go to AAA and be an option either as a SP or a RP.
Baltimore adds a 4th OF in Bernadina who can push Pie for playing time. Plus James Loney who could benefit from a change of scenery and he can play a solid defensive 1B allowing Baltimore to go out and make a move for someone like Konerko who cant be an everyday type 1B.
And LA gets a power hitting LF in Willingham plus a piece for the pen in Johnson. And it opens up a spot at 1B for them to go out and bring in someone like LaRoche, Lee, or one of the other numerous veteran 1yr deal type first basemen.
Thoughts?
As a Dodger fan I’d be all for that deal. But I don’t have any idea how highly Washington and Baltimore value those players. Baltimore is probably the one team in baseball I know the least about.
Well there are risks all around. Willingham is coming off an injury, Reimold was very ineffective last year, and Loney has been playing like the second coming of Casey Kotchman.
But it could work out very well for each team as well. Wahington gets a solid starter in Guthrie along with a guy who put up good numbers in 09 who seems kind of left out in Baltimore in Reimold. Plus they get a swingman who can both start and relieve although he should start the year in AAA.
LA gets a guy with some thump in LF along with a serviceable RH RP. They are probably giving up the most since the prospect would likely be someone equivalent to say an Aaron Miller type pitching prospect.
And Baltimore gets a defensive 1B who should improve just with the change of scenery. Plus with the contract offer to Konerko today it makes sense that they go after a defensive minded 1B since Konerko isnt a full time 1B anymore. They get a guy who can push Pie and a solid pitching prospect. The only real player of consequence that they give up would be Guthrie but they could bring in a guy like Jeff Francis and have the same type of production if not better. For right around the same money.
Like you idk how much each team values their guys but it seems like a deal that would benefit all 3 teams pretty equally with the same amount of risk on each side as well