When Joel Sherman of the New York Post discussed Derek Jeter's contract negotiations with the Yankees earlier today, he suggested that the length of an extension may currently be the sticking point. Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork hears the same thing. A source tells Matthews that Jeter and the Yankees disagree about the number of years, with the Yanks willing to offer three years and Jeter hoping for more than that.
According to Matthews' source, the Yankees would "give Jeter more money than his play currently warrants" over three years, but are reluctant to go any longer. The Yankee captain would like a deal that locks him up for four seasons, and maybe more. Matthews indicates, as Sherman did, that the negotiations are unfolding like a "game of chicken."
Matthews reported earlier this month that the value for the Yanks' three-year offer to Jeter would likely fall somewhere between $45MM and $60MM.
if i were the yankees I’d go 2 years 10 mil. take it or leave it.
And then the Red Sox offer him 2 years 5 million to make him feel even more worthless! And then the Royals offer him 65 million for 5 years because of his “winning mentality and veteran presence.”
They offered 4 year $36 million to Lugo who was never any good then or before that. If Lugo was worth $9 million a year to Theo, I’m sure Jeter to them would be worth more than $2.5 million a year
That offer would be with no intention of signing him lol
However I believe that Theo has pubilcly stated he made a mistake and has(hopefully) fixed his ways when it comes to aging short-shops.
I think they have had what like 7 SS’s the past 6 seasons or something?From 2004 on, Nomar, Cabrera, Renteria, Alez Gonzalez, Lugo, Lowrie, Scutaro and Bill Hall (although not full time for Hall of course)
hush !
theo is a god who had the ability to turn a 90+ win team into a 97+ win team and break a 87 year old curse !
I wonder who will give in! 20 million per would probably make the most overpaid SS in baseball haha I love it
20 million per would PROBABLY make Jeter the most overpaid SS? $20MM for every TWO years would still be overpaid! Deals like this one, Posada’s and the A-Rod extension make me wonder if the Yankees, with no competition for any of these players, use any analysis in their decision-making.
pfftt!! analysis??!?! what is analysis to the yankees??
just like the red sox when they signed beckett to a big extention and signed lackey
Actually, not at all like the Lackey signing. That is similar to the A.J. Burnett deal in that the dollars were (obviously) higher than other teams would pay, and more than the player turned out to be worth. Even the Beckett deal is different, in that it was done to prevent the player from becoming a free agent. I’m talking about massive contracts given to free agents who NO other team is bidding on.
Every team wanted Arod and most wanted Posada…teams not bidding on him have nothing to due with a lack of desire for those players….teams don’t bid because they understand either the asking price the free agent starts out with is way beyond what they can commit to a single player or because they know they will be outbid by the Yankees…
ummm…how many teams actually were going to cough up 25 mil for 10 years for A-Rod?
jeters situation is more like the lowell deal on steroids ( no pun intended ).
I think Jeter will earn whatever the Yankees decide to pay him. As much as we like to think players are earning their salaries by putting up numbers, they also earn their salaries by putting asses in the seats. Jeter will continue to be a draw long after he stops producing. Plus he was pretty awesome in 2009. And that is coming from a Yankee hater.
your statement about Posada is untrue…there were many inquiries about Posada…He had an incredible walk year…but they did overpay for him…and i do believe they won’t make the same mistake with Jeter’s new deal…
Jeter’s been the most over paid SS since Arod move to 3B. Jeter’s a legend not arguing that, but 20M a year for a SS with marginal defense and gap power? meh. His last deal was to pay him for his WS runs in the 90’s. If he hits the same and they never win those WS titles, IMO he would have never approached the 20M AAV plateau.
Jeter’s been the most over paid SS since Arod move to 3B. Jeter’s a legend not arguing that, but 20M a year for a SS with marginal defense and gap power? meh. His last deal was to pay him for his WS runs in the 90’s. If he hits the same and they never win those WS titles, IMO he would have never approached the 20M AAV plateau.
yo derek you dont have a lot of leverage
He has all the leverage. The yanks need to resign him.
Yes the Yanks need him back. But, who is going to top a 3/45 offer? On the open market he could maybe land a 2/20 deal from someone just because he is Derek Jeter. He needs the Yanks just as bad as the Yanks need him. I don’t think he has “all the leverage”
Who cares what everyone else would offer. He could easily be so dissatisfied by the Yankees offer he could just walk, take less money, and not lose sleep over it. The Yanks don’t want that to happen, therefore the Yanks are going to give him what he wants within reason.
I agree. Jeter holds all the cards. This is much like the Joe Torre negotiations, except Jeter is much more beloved than Joe ever was. Joe took less money from the Dodgers, because he felt disrespected. The Yankees don’t want that happening with Jeter.
That was exactly the situation I was think of. It would be a PR nightmare to have what happened to the Yankees with Torre to happen to Jeter.
It would be hurting his legacy more than it would be hurting the Yankees legacy. He has always been the “Captain” that would do anything for the team. Easily a first ballot hall of famer all with the most historic team in professional sports. If they make a “fair” offer of around 3/45 (which is way beyond fair for Jeter’s production) there is no way he walks away from it. He would be the bad guy and the Yankees could easily say they were more than fair. Of course this is just my opinion, but his “legacy” needs the Yankees more than the Yankees need Jeter’s last 3 years of his career.
Well obviously if they offer something fair like 3/45 that is different. You made it seem like the Yankees should low ball him and offer closer to 2/20 because that is what he would get on the open market. Misunderstood.
i don’t believe Jeter gets 2 years 20 mill…ss and 2ndbaseman producing on his level are only getting 5.5 mill….maybe he gets 7.5 mill and maybe someone gives him 2 years but he is likely to decline over those 2 years so i believe 20 mill is too much….
He has less leverage than the Yankees. Not only will the Yankees pay him twice his worth so going to another team wouldn’t work, but most, if not all of his endorsements depend on playing for the Yankees.
New York will continue winning without Jeter, Jeter might not be able to say the same without the Yankees.
Umm yes, Jeter HAS the leverage in this deal. That is why the Yankees will eventually give in to his demands. The Yankees need Derek to retire a Yankee. How can they justify to their fans that they let him walk because they didn’t want to add a 4th year?
i am and talk with Yankee fans all the time…amoungst people i have spoken to he is not so highly vauled…
Jeter ? He has an edge !
This is one of the craziest things I have ever seen. Is Jeter really this valuable?
A player is only as valuable as much as a team is willing to pay them.
Only to the Yankees. His value goes beyond his stats… hes a lifelong Yankee, beloved by the fans, team captain and leader ect ect ect. Letting him walk because they didn’t want to give him one more year would result in an uproar among Yankee fans who don’t want to consider his contract demands. He’s Derek Jeter, you give him what he wants.
Exactly. Jeter sells tickets. And Yankees hats. And he will continue to do so long after he has retired.
Who says…if the Yanks traded for a ss who better than him people will forget like they do in all sports and like they do with current events….fans want winning teams and good/great players…if the Yanks got Hanley Ramirez or Stephen Drew the majority of fans would just move on…
Sure! He’s a perennial gold glove winner *snerk*.
QUESTION: If Jeter gets the contract HE wants, who had a worst offseason? The Marlins or Yankees?
The answer for any questions is always the Marlins — from the pitiful football stadium that they play in to Jeffrey Loria’s pocket-lining annual agenda.
Sad part is that team has the core makings of a great team…he just wont spend money on making it complete and adding in the finishing pieces. Hanley, Stanton, Johnson, Sanchez, Coghlan…they have a great young core.
Sucks to be a Marlin fan. They do just good enough to seem like they are competitive and not have to make a big splash to appease the casual fan; yet don’t deliver on the potential of the team and sell all their studs before they hit their payday.
This is an eternal ‘win now’ team with a ‘win tomorrow’ attitude. If they could have held onto Cabrera and Uggla, they would have a real nice core on offense with Hanley, Stanton, and Coghlan.
and somehow in the past 20 years they have more WS rings than 90% of the league…go figure..
Answer:
The Marlins, unless the Yankees decide to trade Robinson Cano to the Mets for Luis Castillo.
still the marlins.
castillo is a gold glove winner !
Guy who can barely play Shortstop, doesn’t hit well enough to DH or Play Corner Outfield, and is blocked at 3b wants 4 years?
Oh but he won a gold glove remember 😉
Five of them too. The Yankees might be on to something with this Jeter fella.
This isn’t news. In the end, Jeter will get what he wants.
It really is a rock and a hard place for the yanks.. you want to have Jeter retire as a lifer, but at the same time its important to turn a new leaf and stay competitive.. the extra year is a killer, but if he is adamant about it.. how do you not give it to the guy?
If you’re the Yankees, you keep stalling and leaking Jeter’s camp demands. For the first time in Jeter’s career, he’s being displayed by the media in a negative light which is neither going to sit well with him nor his sponsors.
Either that or the team will be put in a bad light. Trust me when i say that jeter is NEVER pratrayed as the bad guy.
because nobody else will give it to him and no other team will pay as much per year…so stay clear of 4 years…i would respect them more if they offered 2 years 15mill the first and 5 mill the last
Come on Detroit offer 5 years 80 million.
I’d offer 3 years at 50m with a Player option for a fourth year. You can trust that Jeter would decline his option if he feels he can’t contribute well anymore.
i really hope the Yankees don’t give it to him…please no no no no.
3 year contract = sign tulo in 2014
4 year contract = sign hanram in 2015
Or they can sign Jose Reyes next year.
right…i agree…they should go year to year so the Yanks can stay flexible…if a great ss becomes available in a trade or free agency then they can shift gears and get him…after Jeter gets his 3000 hits his vaule decreases tremendously unless he is actually playing at a high level…which is unlikely for a 37 year old…
Bingo !
Lmao this made me laugh of how easy that just looks. Tulo and Hanly wearing Redsox and Yankee uniforms by 2015 lmao?
I wonder which one would whare which?
Tulo – yankees
hanley – redsox
It bugs me that people think the Yankees will go out and just buy replacements.
Hear of Eduardo Nunez? He’s the future shortstop for the Yankees.
I know the post had that article but I don’t think Nunez will be that good. His bat was nothing special in the minors and supposedly he’s mediocre defensively. I suspect we’ll see more of him in 2011, but I don’t see him being a starter. I’m curious to see how Culver, the ’10 1st round pick, pans out though.
Eduardo Nunez is a glorified Ramiro Pena. The Yankees will not have him be their SS of the future, stop listening to the MSM.
Hear of Joba Chamberlain? Future Cy Young winner.
/Something about counting chickens
How about Lars Anderson? Future MVP!
I recall reading tons of “Anderson will be better than Pujols” posts as well as the “Ian Kennedy is an untouchable prospect” stupidity…oh memories.
Don’t you love how we all say “this guy will be better than so-and-so” all the time when we really can’t take it for granted them being prospects.
Odd. I never once heard him called better than Pujols. But he was certainly considered untouchable by many. Personally I don’t believe in untouchable. Everyone has their price. A bird in the hand is worth two in the minors.
Ha! So true. He’s not even the #1 first base prospect in the system anymore.
…Remember Kevin Maas?
Eduardo Nunez? Seriously? low walk rates and about 13% minor league K rate with low power? League average at best unless he has a really good glove. Even the ever optimistic Bill James has barely average predictions for Nunez right now.
It can bug you all you want, but that’s what they do.
he isn’t the future for the Yankees if jeter gets 4 years or even 3…he will get traded or released if he doesn’t start by 2012…
Just because of this post, I sincerely hope he gets a 5th year.
This isn’t news. In the end, Jeter will get what he wants.
dear god, i hope not.
You got something against giving him 5 years/ $100M?
Yeah hes a SS who is not getting any younger. A contract shouldn’t be based solely on a “Legacy.”
That is EXACTLY what this contract is based on. His “Legacy”. When you think of the New York Yankees, who do you think of? Yes! Correct! Derek Jeter! I have said this multiple times, the Yankees have no choice. Jeter will get what he wants.
The Yanks will probably wait till the arb period is over so now he also costs a draft pick which makes him lose even more leverage.
Honestly? I think of about 5 or 6 guys before Derek Jeter.
I love Jete, of course, but there were other guys in Yankees history that left behind a bigger legacy.
I don’t mean Yankee HISTORY, of course Jeter isn’t the first guy I think of. I should have clarified, when you think of THIS Yankee team, Jeter is most likely the first guy to come to mind.
I don’t mean Yankee HISTORY, of course Jeter isn’t the first guy I think of. I should have clarified, when you think of THIS Yankee team, Jeter is most likely the first guy to come to mind.
Jeter doesn’t seem to be the “Team Player” the media makes him out to be. Didn’t the Yanks just finish paying him $189 gazillion dollars??
if the Yankees are really serious about putting the best team on the field then the deal they give him can’t be more than a year to year see as we go type deal…that way they have complete flexibility…if they have to give him alot of money to keep him for one year to get 3000 hits fine…but if they give him 4 years then he needs to be paid what they truly think he’ll be worth and as he gets older…he will be worth no more than a utility man/pinch hitter/runner….and his contract should reflect that….first year 15 mill..next three 5 mill and thats serious over payment…if they want to give him multiple years at 5 mill a year to maybe sit at home as some consultant or just as deferred payment thats fine…but they should not commit to him as a player for more than a year at a time…flexibility is what the Yanks should be focused on so they are not bound to an old ss in one of those most atheletic positons in the game…..4 years…not as the starter and not 15-20 million a year.NO WAY
You cannot seriously think after next year that Jeter will be a pinch hitter and utility player, right? He’s still a legitimate hitter even though his average defensive skills have dminished.
.270/.340/.370
“legitimate”
A bad year in an otherwise very good career. What was the average batting line of a SS in 2010?
Just about the same, actually. Jeter can’t field as well as they do, so he has to be an above average hitter overall, not just for the position.
His worst offensive season was average, I can’t complain too much. Sucks that he has to be given too many years, but oh well, that’s how it has to be apparently.
exactly…with deminishing Xtra base hits deminishing speed and arm strength…ok he starts at short in 2011 turns 37…then what he does it again at 38 in 2012…when not make him a pinch hitter/utility guy…and he would be very much over paid at 5 or 7 mill in 2012…
but but but he won the gold glove! /end sarcasm.
no wouldn’t think he would be a utility guy based on his skill alone…but if the Yanks had an opportunity to get a better ss thru trade or free agency and he really wanted to be a Yankee until age 40 then what would he do…he not going to be able to outplay Jose Reyes or Stephen Drew or Hanley Ramirez…and it doesn’t make sense to put a light weight hitter at 3rd when they start DHing Arod…
The Yankees should have to comply with what Jeter wants and they should have made an exception for the guy discussing an extension during the season. He’s only been the face of the most publicized and scrutinized team in the history of sports. He won 4 rings, has been a playoff monster and is coming up on 3000 hits with a legitimate shot at 4000
. How could they let him walk away over one year and 15-20 million?
In no way am I saying to let the guy hold your team hostage for 4000 hits, but guys like Jeter have rules named after them for the treatment they deserve.
If the Yankees are pressing over the 15-20 million, then I know a certain Uncle Drayton who would pay him, so the sale of his team becomes easier with all the crowds pouring in for Jeters road to 3000 hits.
Yankees, lets either man up for your franchise player or take the chance of throwing the baseball universe off it’s axis.
noway he gets 4000 hits…he would need to get at least 200 hits a year for 5 years…that means he has to hit above 300 and play in like 155 games a year to reach that goal…i’ll bet my house and car he doesn’t get that…retire as a Yankee or not…if he gets it he would be like 44 or 45 and i don’t think teams will keep calling him…players start to get injured and they need extra rest days…who is going to cater to a light hitting slow 40 something year old who is probably getting injured every year…Noway
You Guys are living in dream world about Jeter…
Why do I get the strange feeling that Jeter will win a gold glove in 2014.
By 2014, he would be the DH. And since Jeter “gets what he wants”, I’m sure managers and coaches will decide to give him a Gold Glove at DH also
Rafael Palmiero won the gold glove for first base in 1999 despite only playing 28 games at first. Once again proving the gold glove award is basically a throw away award.
Yeah but Jeter will be the first ever Gold Glove DH winner! Even beating out Big Papi if he’s still around!!!
Unless Marco Scutaro wins it
Yeah… because I’m a Red Sox fan I automatically assume everyone on the team should have won a gold glove…
he should have won it in 2009 .
The problem is the Yankees didn’t start a smear campaign against Jeter. Jeter’s “greatness”, has been so woven into Yankee fans psyche, not resigning him is not an option. He holds all the cards, and will get what he wants.
They should have thought about 15-20 million when they gave BUMnett all of that money coming off a career year. I don’t think you give guys who have career years like 5 years apart 80 million dollars.
George would have just been a man and given him the four years. He has earned it!!
Screw loyalty. They should sign Lee/Crawford instead.
… to play short?
c’mon man of course not, if they don’t pay Jeter they can probably afford Crawford/Lee.
I had to pull your chain, you left yourself open. As for affording… we’re not talking about the Rays payroll here.
I had to pull your chain, you left yourself open. As for affording… we’re not talking about the Rays payroll here.
Carl Crawford plays short?
HOLY JESUS SIGN HIS BEAUTIFUL SELF NOW!
I imagine he’d have better range than Jeter…
Boy I wouldn’t want to be Hal or Hank watching the Icon of the Yankees getting his 3000th hit with another ball club.
Thank you Ken. They would be the only ones to screw that up. Although I have some faith in Hank. Seems more like his old man than Hal.
Here’s a tough question to answer for Yankee fans at least. Baseball fans know the answer but this is tough to answer if you’re a Yankee fan
Who would you rather have in the next couple of years and if you had to pick one, which is it, Cliff Lee or Derek Jeter?
I’m a Yankee fan, and it hurts me to say it Yankee fans, I’d have to go with Cliff Lee. You may call me a bad fan for saying that since it’s “Shawt stop, numba two, Derek Jeeta, numba two”, but I’m sorry, just like Posada, his days are almost over. Cliff Lee isn’t young but he possesses something that the Yankees need for the next couple of years, assuming he goes to NY, and that is starting pitching.
The Yankees year in and year out will always be a “Win it all or you fail” team each year. Cliff Lee increases their chances of winning more than Jeter does.
As a Yankee fan I’d be glad to have both, but if I wanted to pick one, it would have to be Lee
However, if only 1 is going to be on the team next year, I think we know who that 1 is.
I agree. If I had to chose one moving forward, it would be Lee. He fills a bigger area of weakness than does Jeter. The line-up can afford a hole in the #9 spot (where viable SS options would likely hit) than having a(nother) hole in the rotation.
What’s crazy is this…if the yanks pay jeter 20 mill for 4 years his contract is a big overpayment every single year and he declines every single year….but if they pick up crawford for 18 mill for 7 years maybe he earns his money for 5 or 6 of those years…and with that they could trade one of there outfielders…maybe Granderson with Edurdo Nunez and Ivan Nova or a differnt pitching prospect for Stephen Drew…but this senario hasn’t been talked about as far as i know in the media…
But as a Yankee Fan MB, you really don’t have to choose. Chances are it will be both, and if Lee doesn’t sign with the Yankees it will be because he’s taking slightly less money to go somewhere else.
Wake up people!!! it’s called negotiations. Because he hopes for four years doesn’t mean he won’t settle for three.
The yankees already offered him 3, if he’s willing to settle for 3 he would have taken it already.
Im sorry I love Jeter and all but the Yankees are out of their mind if they give him 60 million for two years.. He would be the most overpaid baseball player in the world.. along with Beltron and Vernon Wells
jeter should just take 20 milloin for 2 years thats it, thats all he is worth i dont care what he did in the past , that just shows you how greedy jeter really is.
Vernon Wells only got 16 million this year, hard to call him the most or one of the most overpaid players in the world……
……in 2011 he’ll be getting 26 million…then he’ll be the most overpaid player in the world!
Ya.. and its pretty much 2011. So, he is the most over paid player in the world.
If he wants 4 years, I’d give it to him in the form of 16 mil a year.
Still too much, but what can ya do. Probably throw in incentives to bring the mill a year total up to 18 and a player option for a 5th year out of respect.
This is beginning to be annoying. Stick to 3 years/55mil otherwise show him the door.
Or if he wants 4 years than do 4/48 mil.
How is it beginning to get annoying? It’s what, a few weeks into free agency? And how could you just show him the door? It’s Derek Jeter, not Johnny Damon.
How is it beginning to get annoying? It’s what, a few weeks into free agency? And how could you just show him the door? It’s Derek Jeter, not Johnny Damon.
This is beginning to be annoying. Stick to 3 years/55mil otherwise show him the door.
Or if he wants 4 years than do 4/48 mil.
I mean really, the yankees are going to give him 4 years. How much have they overpaid some of the other “stars” on the club? They should really do this for jeter if its what he really wants.
Now, I say if he keeps losing range at SS then maybe after next year move him to Right.
who do you move out of the outfield?
who do you move out of the outfield?
I don’t like the idea of paying someone for what they did in the past as opposed to paying for someone to produce results in the season(s) to come. After the horrific year Jeter had, he’s lucky the Yankees are not seeking a shortstop somewhere else and leaving him to fend for himself in Free Agent Purgatory.
Personally, if I was Cashman… I wouldn’t even offer Jeter a contract. If I was going to shell out $15M-$20M per season, that person would be Beltre. I doubt A-Rod would say anything if asked to move back to his natural position at short.
For the amount he’s asking for… it’s not worth it. You could get better results going somewhere else. The Yankees are not shelling out this money for chairty, it’s to win.