The Yankees are likely to offer Derek Jeter a three-year deal worth $45-60MM, according to Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork.com. One of Matthews’ sources, someone intimately familiar with knowledge of the team’s negotiations with agent Casey Close, says the Yankees are prepared to “overpay” the shortstop.
No team other than the Yankees has shown interest in Jeter, according to Matthews’ sources. That's not a surprise, considering that Jeter seems likely to re-sign in New York. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports wrote Friday that "Jeter is still Jeter, the Yankees are still the Yankees and no other team will be a factor" [in the negotiations]. ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reported that the Yankees are willing to pay Jeter more than any other team would, even though they aren’t going to invest recklessly in their captain.
MLBTR's Tim Dierkes predicted a four-year $65MM deal between Jeter and the Yankees.
3/45 please.
Not going to happen but its nice to dream. I see 3/55-60 as more realistic.
As a Red Sox fan, I’m hoping for somewhere around 5 years and $100M for the Yankee$ to waste on him.
Yeah , that will really put a dent in the Yankees cash box, won’t it?
Seriously, I’d be happy with what ever they overpay him. Most Yank fans are more concerned with the length not the amount of the contract. Yankees need to get younger on the left side of the infield.
… Slopeboy, this applies in any scenario that involves the Yankees, and paying money to their players. Yankees and their fans never have to worry about money because they careless give it away to undeserving players. Jeter is deserving of a fair amount of money considering the type of person he has been for the Yankees throughout his career, but even this is a bit overkill.
Keep in mind that the Yankees always consider that everything they do is the best.
They have the best players, coaches, facilities, fans etc, certainly that’s not always true, but that is what the goal and image is always. Jeter is no longer being paid like just a player, he’s an icon, and image, the face of the franchise for the upcoming future. They have the resources to pay him as such and that is why the ridiculous salary.
I’m guessing that Teddy Ballgame was before your time, but you should know that Ted Williams was making $100,000 a season fifty years ago at age 42. He wasn’t worth that kind of money to play right field for anybody except the Red Sox. And they paid him. Why? Because he was Ted Williams and they were the Red Sox and they had the resources. The Jeter situation is history repeating itself in NY rather than Boston. It’s only overkill if you look at it in strictly baseball terms
Ted Williams played left field. And at 41 he had a slash line of .316/.451/.645/1.096 I think that is worth $100 000. At Jeter’s age Williams had a slash line of .356/.496/.703/1.200 or numbers Jeter will never achieve. So please never compare Ted Williams and Derek Jeter.
And to you Yankees fans, I like Jeter. He is a HoF player. But to compare him and Ted Williams is crazy.
Slow down the knee jerk reaction to attack anything Yankees. Your hostility is blinding your ability to read and comprehend .Ted Williams is the greatest hitter ever. No doubt. He in fact is the real John Wayne , a true American Hero.If you re-read what I wrote, you’ll see that I never compared the two.What I posted was that both players, assuming Jeter gets what is being talked about, will have been overpaid at the end of their careers by their prospective teams. The sole reason being that they were icons to their fan base and their teams could afford to pay them in that manner.
But if you look at what I wrote, Ted Williams was not overpaid for his production. He had a 1.096 OPS in his age 41 year. Plus his counting stats for a person with only 390 PA were pretty damn decent too. And if you want to compare the age 36 years where Ted Williams was paid $125 000 he had the 1.200 OPS whereas Jeter had a .710 OPS and was paid $22.6 million. So it is pretty obvious Ted Williams was worth the money where Jeter has almost no chance to be worth what he is going to be paid. As a matter of fact the whole time Ted Williams was getting paid about $125 000/year his LOWEST OPS was .791. And he took a paycut the year after of about 25%. Do you think Jeter is going to take a 25% pay cut? Don’t think so.
Now you’re being just silly, as you continue to compare the two, while I’ve never made any comparison. Fifty years ago, neither the President, nor Hank Aaron nor Willie Mays, nor Mickey Mantle were paid $100,000 a year for their services.The Red Sox paid Teddy Ballgame that money because he was worth that much to them, same as NY with Jeter. You drape your opinion with today’s saber stats to justify your point of view, but he was paid that much because the Red Sox could. Unless you know that Bill James’ father gave those very same stats you posted to the Red Sox GM, Tom Yawkey paid Williams because he was Ted Williams.
Ted Williams was paid $125 000 per year because he was worth $125 000 per year. If you don’t want new stats, Ted Williams had .356AVG/28HR/83RBI in 417/PA those are amazing numbers and the next year was even better. If you don’t think that any other team in the major leagues wouldn’t have made him the highest paid player in the league then you are nuts. The difference is that Jeter will not be worth the money he will be paid while Teddy Ballgame was totally worth it.
yeah but u missed the part about the 25% paycut. Jeter might love the yankees…but dude is NOT taking a paycut to play SS there.
Now you’re being just silly, as you continue to compare the two, while I’ve never made any comparison. Fifty years ago, neither the President, nor Hank Aaron nor Willie Mays, nor Mickey Mantle were paid $100,000 a year for their services.The Red Sox paid Teddy Ballgame that money because he was worth that much to them, same as NY with Jeter. You drape your opinion with today’s saber stats to justify your point of view, but he was paid that much because the Red Sox could. Unless you know that Bill James’ father gave those very same stats you posted to the Red Sox GM, Tom Yawkey paid Williams because he was Ted Williams.
But if you look at what I wrote, Ted Williams was not overpaid for his production. He had a 1.096 OPS in his age 41 year. Plus his counting stats for a person with only 390 PA were pretty damn decent too. And if you want to compare the age 36 years where Ted Williams was paid $125 000 he had the 1.200 OPS whereas Jeter had a .710 OPS and was paid $22.6 million. So it is pretty obvious Ted Williams was worth the money where Jeter has almost no chance to be worth what he is going to be paid. As a matter of fact the whole time Ted Williams was getting paid about $125 000/year his LOWEST OPS was .791. And he took a paycut the year after of about 25%. Do you think Jeter is going to take a 25% pay cut? Don’t think so.
Slow down the knee jerk reaction to attack anything Yankees. Your hostility is blinding your ability to read and comprehend .Ted Williams is the greatest hitter ever. No doubt. He in fact is the real John Wayne , a true American Hero.If you re-read what I wrote, you’ll see that I never compared the two.What I posted was that both players, assuming Jeter gets what is being talked about, will have been overpaid at the end of their careers by their prospective teams. The sole reason being that they were icons to their fan base and their teams could afford to pay them in that manner.
Well, that’s a little unfair. I mean, Derek’s a SS (one of the best offensive ones ever) and Ted literally wrote the book on hitting. They are both great, but, Ted Williams was just Godly with a stick.
Amen brother…I was just going to post the same thing lol
No one is going to argue with about that, except Ty Cobb was the only better hitter
Really? So paying someone many millions of dollars simply to be known as an “icon” is warranted? It’s okay to bring back a player because he is or has been the face of their franchise for the better part of their existence. But when you start paying him a traditional elite players salary, that’s considered overkill. Look at guys like Griffey, who was obviously far more past due than Jeter is, but even during his prime, he never made top dollar, even with the Mariners.
Being a team mascot does not justify the amount of money he’ll be making, not even close.
But hey, it’s not really worth arguing about team finances with a Yankee fan, because they don’t know what it’s like to feel discontent with lack of investments. 😉
You’re forgetting one important thing- It’s not your money! Can you really say that ANY ballplayer is worth millions? We as fans get caught up with player’s salaries and it’s pointless. Teams that choose to spend money on their players will do so. Those that don’t will pocket the money and point to those that do and cry poverty or that they can’t compete because they don’t havr the resources.
Or, the MLB could sack up and lay down a salary cap… MLB is the only sport that consistently has the same teams going to the post season.
The salary cap solution is a myth. Look at the other leagues and you’ll see that it’s not much different. NBA- Lakers, Celtics, Dallas, Detroit, San Antonio always in the mix. NHL- Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New Jersey, Ottawa, NFL- New England, Indianapolis,Pittsburg,Philadelphia, San Diego. All these teams are pretty much in the playoffs, granted other teams come and go,but it’s not much different than baseball. The salary cap doesn’t ensure that all the teams will spend up to the cap ceiling either. Don’t be certain that the owners want a salary cap, many teams that receive revenue monies will now have to spend their own and will come under harsh scrutiny when they refuse to do so. The most blatant piece of evidence that the cap is a myth is in the question. When was the last time tickets prices went down at any of the Salary Capped sports?
If anything the salary cap is hurting the NHL, NFL, and NBA
The Celtics were completely irrelevant for about a decade and a half leading up to their 2008 championship. They pulled off 2008 by building up their talent through the draft and making trades for key veterans to bolster a couple of franchise players. The Lakers were effectively irrelevant for a while before Kobe came in.
Comparing the NBA to the MLB is apples to oranges. In the NBA, one elite player can take a team from mediocrity to perennial contender. Your window is consistently wider there because you can ride one star to the playoffs year in year out. As I noted, some of the elite teams in the NBA were completely irrelevant until they were able to add one big guy.
As for the NFL, those teams are all in the consistently in the playoff chase because (With the exception of Philadelphia) they have a franchise quarterback and they perform well in the draft. Look at the Patriots, who are known for shipping out guys who get expensive and then coaching up talent off the scrap heap or from the draft.
The Celtics were completely irrelevant for about a decade and a half leading up to their 2008 championship. They pulled off 2008 by building up their talent through the draft and making trades for key veterans to bolster a couple of franchise players. The Lakers were effectively irrelevant for a while before Kobe came in.
Comparing the NBA to the MLB is apples to oranges. In the NBA, one elite player can take a team from mediocrity to perennial contender. Your window is consistently wider there because you can ride one star to the playoffs year in year out. As I noted, some of the elite teams in the NBA were completely irrelevant until they were able to add one big guy.
As for the NFL, those teams are all in the consistently in the playoff chase because (With the exception of Philadelphia) they have a franchise quarterback and they perform well in the draft. Look at the Patriots, who are known for shipping out guys who get expensive and then coaching up talent off the scrap heap or from the draft.
yeah…. and a different winner each year except twice in the last 10 years
u know the playoffs are a crapshoot…stop pretending…
You’re not supposed to come out from under the rock you live under until April. Get back under there with your negativity and with the rest of the imaginary “Nation” !! At least Beltre showed some intelligence and jumped ship. Any luck getting your money back on Lackey ? LOL, LMAO
Any luck getting your money back on A.J. Burnett?
According to WAR Lackey was worth 15.9mil of his 18.5mil he was owed. Not sure but idk if that 2.6mil is much of a big deal seeing as 2.5mil of that was his signing bonus.
After watching half of Lackey’s starts this year, its safe to say WAR is complete non sense
Well sombody’s feeling bitter today. I’m not sure what about though. Maybe you just don’t have a sense of humor.
I wasn’t aware Beltre signed elsewhere already. Thanks for the breaking news oh most intelligent Yankee “fan”.
Who wouldn’t want to see a rival team sign a hall of fame player?
As a Yankee fan, I’m hoping the Red Sox overpay for Victor Martinez, Adrian Beltre, and Jayson Werth.
Sincerely, Hal Steinbrenner.
The Sox aren’t going to sign Victor Martinez nor Beltre.
Beltre probably not, Victor Martinez there is a very good chance. Who’s gonna catch for the Sox if he doesn’t? Saltalamacchia? Hopefully he learns how to throw the ball back to the Pitcher and not into Center Field.
i don’t know who is going to catch. I think Theo should be fired if he sign Pierzynski.
The Sox aren’t going to offer Victor Martinez a contract longer than three years.
Saltalamacchia’s mental thing where he had trouble throwing back to pitchers is a thing of the past. Wasn’t a problem with Boston.
Salty is a great catcher, Boston is going to like him, especially now that his thumb is fixed, watch this guy light it up in spring training
I think the other way around, Fenway was built for Beltre, and he seriously knows it, unless the Red Sox lowball him he will be back on some sort of 4 year deal or maybe 5 in the 10-12 million a year range, only other team i thought he was going to go to was Detroit, Victor Martinez however i see going to several teams.
It sounds like Beltre wants to go back to Southern California, maybe the Angels. I think his one year Sox deal worked well for both sides, but I don’t see the Sox offering him more than three years..
It depends, the Angels and Boras have a very strained relationship ever since Boras refused to get back to them for over two weeks on the Teixeira free agency sweepstakes.
We will see.
Hal plays with ponies
I don’t care what they pay him as long as Jeter is standing around at the shortstop position for the next 3 to 5 years.
Jeter shows no signs of being anything other than toast at this point. The Yankees need to find a reason let him walk. He can still hit LHP., but other than that he offers little. The emperor has no clothes.
Jeter shows no signs of being anything other than toast at this point. The Yankees need to find a reason let him walk. He can still hit LHP., but other than that he offers little. The emperor has no clothes.
similiar to the situation to boston wasting their money on a declining beckett
no it isn’t
similiar to the situation to boston wasting their money on a declining beckett
Yankees are really bidding against themselves here. There aren’t that many teams with current SS openings: Baltimore, Cincinnati, Houston, St. Louis, San Diego and San Francisco. I can’t see any of those teams shelling out big $$$ to land Jeter, except maybe San Francisco. But really, it’s the Yankees or bust for Jeter. They’ll give him a decent deal so there’s no blowback over the bloated deal they gave A-Rod. 3 years sounds about right, and if they make if $50-$52 MM over the 3 years, it will pay off at the merchandise shop in the end. Problem is: Jeter doesn’t have anywhere to go except the OF in NY once his SS days are over; Teixeira, Cano and A-Rod aren’t going anywhere soon. Can Jeter play the OF, and would he turn into the next coming of Robin Yount if he did? Yankees will have to approach him with that now if Jeter is harboring any thoughts of pursuing Pete Rose’s hit record (he’d need at least another 7 seasons to get there.)
Jeter will not play for any other team if the Yankees don’t sign him, you can take that to the bank.
So if he doesen’t agree to a contract with the Yankees he’s just going to retire prior to reaching 3,000 hits and still having some decent years left in him? Doubtful.
Your right Dave. If he isn’t pleased with the contract, he will go elsewhere, and I can think of 10 other teams who will at least have Major interest. Former Yankee “goods and greats” have had no problem leaving NY, i.e. Johnny Damon most recently.
If the Pirates offer Jeter 20+ more than the Yankees non-anually, he will go there.
“If the Pirates offer Jeter 20+ more than the Yankees non-anually, he will go there. ”
I think the chances of that happening = the chances of the Pirates going 162-0
In Yankee a fans mind, that’s exactly what would happen though – the Pirates would go 162-0 with him and win it all. Don’t you know that Jeter is the greatest of all time?
Didn’t mean to click Like, meant to click reply, and wanted to say that was pretty lame.
It may be lame, but it’s also fact.
No, it’s not a fact. It’s just something you and a typical Yankee hater make up. No one in their rightful mind claimed Jeter was the greatest of all time.
I guess that automatically means that Johnny Damon, a Yankee great, spent 16 years in the organization winning 5 WS titles, and winning the nick name “Mr. November” for his game winning homerun against the Diamondbacks in game 4 of the WS. There are Yankee goods, there are Yankee greats, and then there are Yankee legends.
Didn’t they lose that World Series? Jeter also had a 148/179/259 line against Arizona in the series. Seems like a strange time to be given the nickname Mr. November.
Ya they did, but you’re missing the point. Span is comparing he and Damon toghether, and I disagree. Jeter has spent his whole career there and is the face of the franchise compared to Damon, who was good for 4 years there.
You can’t compare Jeter and Damon in the same light. Jeter is the unquestionable face of the franchise. Played there his entire career. Damon was a proven traitor as soon as he arrived in NY. No comparison can be drawn to any current Yankee short of Rivera who we all know also isn’t going anywhere. Both will be career Yankees with their numbers retired in Monument Park.
I truly admire how you were able to compliment two Yankees players by killing another Yankees player in the process. That’s really a heck of an accomplishment. I take my Yankees cap off to you sir! You are a worthy rival.
“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; this is the only organization that I wanted to ever play for and this is the only organization I want to play for,” Jeter said. “I don’t think I can say it enough times.”
A lot of players have said that before. I say there is no way the Yankees don’t sign him but if they didn’t in some hypothetical world there is no chance he retires.
he said that as soon as the ink dried up on his last contract and not a second sooner!
LOL
shut up tool
Such a witty retort.
The next Robin Yount? I don’t think so. Yount was an amazing fielding SS who had to move to the OF becaus of arm trouble. He then became a dominant fielding CF fot the Brewers. Jeter, below average fielding SS who will probably be a below avg fielding LF. Jeter’s main problem at SS is his range. That will not become all the sudden better in the OF.
They should have just moved him to 3rd when ARod came over. I mean, his problem has always been range. Range is not a crucial at 3rd, plus, ARod was the better fielding SS.
…and this is where i lost respect for Jeter. all this talk about him being a leader…a captain…blah blah blah….and when push comes to shove…his ego gets in the way…remember when they dropped a pop-up and Jeter just stared at A-Rod like an angry house-wife instead of picking up the ball…smh….
“No team other than the Yankees has shown interest in Jeter”
that’s because this: “The Yankees are likely to offer Derek Jeter a three-year deal worth $45-60MM.” is ridiculous. Plus, he’s a Yankee lifer, as he should be.
He’ll be 37 next year. Three years doesn’t seem horrible because the guy can clearly still play but $45-60 million?! Cut the 45 in half, or so, and then it makes more sense.
Exactly. But Jeter will never take that. He needs to realize something, and something fast.
Like I said.
Call him, offer him 3/$45 as a take it or leave it, then hang up. I think the Yanks have some leaverage here, in saying that they don’t need to go wicked overboard. No other team will sign him for what he wants, and he won’t sign with another team.
After that sign Mo, that’ll take 5 seconds, call Pettitte and tell him “Call us when you’re done with your decision” and really start the offseason. There’s no reason to waste valueable time on so much unneeded drama.
I’d say there is no leverage either way here. Either side walks away and both sides get hurt. There’s no real plan B to replace an icon and there’s no plan B to become an icon somewhere else.
At least we can live with the icon only playing for that one team he’s known all his career and no other team. He will eventually accept if the Yanks RIGHTFULLY offer him 3/$45-$50.
Sure the Yankees have leverage. The day Jeter takes off the pinstripes he instantly loses his endorsement deals and is relegated to trotting out onto the field for ceremonies every so often. I certainly don’t see coaching in his future. Within a handful of years of retiring he’ll be a fading memory and nothing more.
The Yankees will simply carry on, overpaying his replacement. Losing Jeter would have zero negative long term ramifications for the team. The fans aren’t suddenly going to jump ship to the dark side and start rooting for my Mets.
He’ll never be a fading memory, not with the great career he’s had. And he’ll be working in the Yankee organization after he retires, probably as the same job Tommy Lasorda has with the Dodgers.
Wishful thinking on your part. He’s just a baseball player and fans have short memories. Especially Yankees fans.
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Hey, I resent that. But anyway, he’s not going to be forgotten any time soon, eventually, but not any time soon.
Guess we’ll see. Not all Yankees fans are terrible, but in my experience
most of them don’t even know who Don Mattingly is, or if they recognize the
name, they couldn’t tell you what position he played. Being a Yankees fan in
NY is mostly seen as a ridiculous status symbol and you get all the flighty
fans that go along with that status.
Does kind of get embarrasing to be probably one of only 25-30% of all Yankee fans that are real while the rest are bandwagon jumpers
How is that embarrassing? That 25% of “real” fans is probably still a higher number than most if not all “real” fanbases. Lots of people born and/or bred in the tri state/with NY connections.
The other 70% or so (your number not mine) just go to winners, so there’s nothing embarrassing about being a real fan from a fanbase which still has the most “real” fans out of probably all fanbases…
ummm…no….if ur a pittsburgh pirates fan..i think that number of “real fans” is alot higher than 25%
Hey, I resent that. But anyway, he’s not going to be forgotten any time soon, eventually, but not any time soon.
Agreed; however the Yankees are hurt only symbolically. They’d benefit on the field by going with a younger, more agile SS. Jeter gets his feelings hurt, then signs with another team for a realistic amount. Or not. And the fans? They’d be upset, and would eventually get over it.
Yankees have all the leverage because if the Yankees offer a reasonable contract, and Jeter gets greedy and refuses, it doesn’t look great on his image.
Even though a name some times carries value, it really shouldn’t.
He will sign with another team if he doesn’t get the money he wants…
“wicked overboard.” —————— Even the Red Sox…You said it.
He won’t sign with another team because you fail to realize no other team will give him what he wants. And you will have to realize that he won’t sign with another team. The Yankees are the only team he plays for and will play for if this contract gets done. He’s less than 100 hits to 3,000, and he’ll get it in pinstripes, if not, he won’t get them at all. Take this from a long time Yanks fan.
He’s not going to retire if he doesn’t resign. That’s ridiculous. He’s 100 someodd hits from the magic number
He’s not going to play for another team regardless.
If he doesn’t re sign with the Yankees, he will be on another team.
No he won’t.
Right. So if he doesn’t sign he will retire with 2900 hits. I can really see that happening.
Not
He’s not going to another team regardless Span. Boy, you’re just finding everything to argue to me about. Next thing we know, you’ll be telling me that Robinson Cano will become a FA and sign with the Tigers or something.
Robinson Cano will be a free agent and sign with the Tigers or something.
Told you we’d argue!
Haha oh gosh…
Seriously though Jennry, I think jeter will sign with the Yankees, don’t get me wrong…it might be 85-90% certain or more, but you can’t seriously expect him to retire he he doesn’t end up a Yankee.
I think he will sign with the Yankees, eventually. I’m just saying he won’t play for another team, and no other team will give him what he wants, so he’ll have to settle for that. I wonder what Jeter wants though. Hopefully it’s not ridiculous like 5/$100 or something.
Well we’ll see. You made a good point, but ultimately, both sides need to come to their senses and understand what’s at stake. Its. Going to be interesting, but even idnge does remain a Yankee, I hope the negotiations don’t bring out a side in Jeter that we aren’t used to seeing.
it is absolutely defying logic that jeter would pass up guarenteed money…PLUS all the endorsements that would come with getting 3,000 hits…just to say he ONLY played for the yankees. arguing with yankee fans is like arguing with a pregnant lady on the train…there is just no winning that fight…and u look stupid for even trying.
Seriously though Jennry, I think jeter will sign with the Yankees, don’t get me wrong…it might be 85-90% certain or more, but you can’t seriously expect him to retire he he doesn’t end up a Yankee.
Haha oh gosh…
I really have to go with you on this one SPAN. I really doubt he retires without breaking the 3K. Even if it means playing elsewhere (however, if it was between Boston and retiring, then it seems less obvious to me). He would most likely then sign somewhere out of the division.
Ever since this past season started everyone was waiting for this moment to hit and now it’s here. The massive over payment for past rewards is about to commence.
Just how on earth can a 37YO player, at SS no less, with deteriorating range and possibly declining bat be rewarded at such ridiculous amounts? 3@15M plus? Where are the NYY going to hide him after next year even on the field if his range deteriorates even more? They already have to worry about the shape of ARod’s hip and when his range is going to fall off the cliff. A corner OF spot? Don’t they have to hang onto lifer Yankee Posada until his legs fall off for a few years after he is about done also, plus reward him for his years of past service also?
Not trying to knock on the NYY fans at all here and like have posted before, that crazy ARod contract has just opened up/started something 2 years ago that looks like is going to be impossible to shut off now. After jeter, Posada, Rivera retire, what about Cano? Isn’t he going to want to be treated the same way?
I just see massive LT damage for one extremely foolish move that will cost millions.
Oh please….Jeter at 15 per for 3 years is plenty worth it for both sides…Get a grip on Jeter’s overall worth to the team. A-Rod negotiation was a total disaster and it’s an awful contract, but really, your concern is Cano?
Posada is done after this year and he will likely be paid more for handing over the reigns to Montero than his on field performance, but Rivera was worth every penny of that contract and likely will get a two year deal for the same amount again this time around so you can’t point to ARod and blame a good deal.
And Cano? When he puts in 15 years then we’ll see if the A-Rod deal from a decade ago has any impact whatsoever. My guess is it won’t. That’s like Jeter pointing to a major deal signed in 2001.
As a Jay fan, I hate the Yankees. But if they give Jeter 3 years and $45 million plus, I’ll have to admit it’s a class move on the teams part.
I hope when I’m nearing retirement, and am beginning to slow down mentally and physically, my boss decides to senselessly give me 3x the money I deserve just because I’ve been there for a long time.
Well doubtful you are the face of your company and industry at that time and actually make money for the company you work for. Jeter is worth the money especially since money is just an object to the Yankees.
You don’t think he makes money for the company he works for? If he doesn’t in some way, shape, or form, I don’t think he would have a job. I sit in an office and make money for my company, and I too hope after I have been there 40 years they will throw me a little going away present like Jeter is getting.
I’m pretty sure that’s what happens in many companies. Plus, you’ll probably get a pension after you retire, which gives you infinitely more than you deserve.
Get Minka Kelly to date you, bring her to work and show her off. Your Boss will look at you in an entirely different light.
I forgot the magazine name but I heard she was voted sexiest woman alive on it.
If Jeter gets 15 per it will be a 25% pay cut.
For normal people if you make 60,000 a year,that’s like being told at around 60 years old (your performance is down and though you have been loyal to us and people love you, we’re lowering your salary to 45,000)…
How would your Mom or Dad react if they took a 25% pay cut next year? It’s easy to criticize these players because we know nothing of their lives.
If Jeter gets 15 per it will be a 25% pay cut.
For normal people if you make 60,000 a year,that’s like being told at around 60 years old (your performance is down and though you have been loyal to us and people love you, we’re lowering your salary to 45,000)…
How would your Mom or Dad react if they took a 25% pay cut next year? It’s easy to criticize these players because we know nothing of their lives.
As a Yankee fan, I personally wouldn’t commit more than 2-3yrs at 15mil per and I believe that’s being generous… he’s a Yankee legend and first ballot hall of famer, but as a player, he’s no longer great and not worth more than about 7mil on the open market. The Yankees are paying him at least double his actual value. Of course, from a commercial promotional standpoint, both the Yankees and Jeter benefit greatly from his staying so I expect him to resign.
Joel Sherman had a novel idea of also including a personal services contract into the contract for after his playing days. I think this would be a great idea. Jeter could get what he feels he’s worth and the Yankees would have a true ambassador for many years to come…
i’d like to see derek become a hitting coach when his career is over. they could use someone who can actually swing a baseball bat, since they hit .201 when it counted under kevin long and he needs to go the way of dave eiland. speaking of pitching coaches, anyone have mussina’s phone number?
The Yankees offensive was an abomination in the playoffs. Especially when they crushed the Twins to a .314/.351/.514 line in the ALDS – nearly a 50 point improvement in batting average and 100 in OPS from their regular season numbers.
Let’s not overreact based on the tiny sample size of one ALCS.
Moose i think is coaching his son’s baseball team. He’s spending alot more time with his family. Sure just because he’s a big name in NY doesen’t mean he can be a good pitching coach, but I think he can, he’s always had such great pitching styles, and when his “stuff” started to decline, he realized it in a second, and developed better pitches that would allow him to get the out. He would be a good pitching coach.
well said hate the team but good unbiased judgement what is there to prove after 3000 hits that he hasnt 3yrs is enough
too much. Right now, Jeter’s value is just about as high as Scutaro’s.
That may be true in terms of production, but guessing there are a few more Jeter jerseys out there than Scutaro ones. 🙂
Too bad revenue from officially licensed merchandise (like Jerseys) is shared nearly equally between the teams.
The better money argument is that next year and into the future the Yankees will be able to capitalize on Jeter being the first Yankee in the 3000 hit club.
Correct of course. Poor example on my part, but was poorly trying to make a point that Jeter marketing $$$ >>>>> Scutaro marketing $$$. In other news, water is wet.
Fortunately all the revenue from those advertisers on YES does not have to be split between the teams. Seriously, his face pops up on that channel 5 times every hour at least regardless of what the program is.
Probably a bit higher, considering Scutaro doesn’t even have a chance at putting up $15M worth of value. It’s unlikely at this point, but at least there’s some kind of chance a supremely talented like Jeter bounces back to the neighborhood of his career numbers. Sctuaro’s best season, which he’s unlikely to repeat, doesn’t even come close to Jeter’s career numbers.
I won’t rule out a Jeter bounce back but don’t expect career numbers from here on out. He’s not in his prime any longer.
Career averages are probably reaching, but I agree that a bounce back from ’10 is entirely possible. Something like .285/.345/.400 would be fine by me.
The Yankees completely overpaying someone for being “A True Yankee” will never get old. Yankee fans lovin that Posada deal right about now?
I don’t think Yankees fans are losing sleep over paying a guy $13 million. A .811 OPS isn’t the worst season a guy could have.
I think most Yankee fans are ok with it. The marginal value of a player win is about $4 million dollars. Posada has been paid 39.3 million on the current deal and put up 6.5 fWAR. Meaning he’s been worth about 26 million or so. BUT you can’t assume injuries and Posada played only 51 games in ’08 and put up only 0.4 fWAR (he had some poor performance while playing hurt that year too). He averaged just over 3 wins per year in ’09 and ’10 (so over 12 mil per year of value).It’s actually been a pretty reasonable deal for both sides considering the difficulty of finding offensive production from the Catcher slot. He’s due to make another 13.1 mil next year and he’s a good bet to put up stronger offensive numbers and play more frequently as a 70% DH/30% Catcher.
It certainly feels better than giving up valuable prospects for Victor Martinez and then having to rely on Saltalamacchia or overpaying John Buck and his .314 OBP, that’s for sure.
I’m very ok with it actually. Other than the injury riddled 2008, he’s put up an OPS higher than .810 each of his two healthier seasons. His bat is still there.
Problem being is that he’s a DH wearing catcher gear. He’s being paid elite catcher money, but he simply hasn’t been much of a catcher since the ink on his last contract dried.
I’ve seen Yankee fans (Not you, I seem to recall you on the other side of this one)citing exercising Ortiz’s option as foolish because he’s overpaid, but what would that say for Posada?
He’s still a solid bat, but he’s paid to be more than that.
I also have always thought that was a solid deal.
Why would we care what they spend their money on anyways? It isn’t our money.
b/c fans see themselves as investors. their money goes toward jeters salary so they feel entitiled to their opinion on how its spent
I’d probably do a dance if Jeter accepted 3/45.
Derek Jeter: The true yankee. The perfect gentleman. He loves the game and embodies the spirit of a champion. Also, he wants $60 million for his 37-40 years as a guy who can’t play his position and who’s hitting is in decline.
Can’t wait to see his true colors.
Agreed, this will show a lot about Jeter. I believe he will re-sign relatively quickly and accepts a totally reasonable perhaps even more than reasonable 3/45 offer or thereabouts.
can’t play his position? you’re smoking some pretty good stuff there, cheech. he’s still one of the best defensive shortstops in the game. hanley and tulo are the only kids better than he is, and rollins isn’t as good as derek.
One of the best defensive shortstops in the game? Are you being serious? He used to be like 10 years ago, but definitely not anymore.
Ehh… He’s surehanded, but he’s never had alot of range…
a ballerina hop and a dive into the stands does not make you one of the best at your position.
I can’t stop laughing at this.
OMFG are you serious dude? What a meatball, homer thing to say…you really no very little about baseball, other than what you hear from the Yankee Network
I hope for his sake he “nos” more about English…
His defense is far from one of the best in the game. His range is poor. He has to rely on acrobat jump and spin plays on balls many other shortstops get to without great effort. In fact, there’s talk of an imminent move to the outfield, just a question of when… I like Jeter as a role model and person, but as a player, he’s slipped a notch recently from very good to good…
Actually look at his defensive numbers over his career and you will see he has been average to below average for his position the entire time. Only 3 positive UZR’s in 16 years is not “one of the best defensive shortstops in the game”. Try to pay attention.
I’m gonna agree and say that Jeter has slipped defensively lately, as older players tend to do, but take it from a guy who has played in a major league organization, UZR is a joke. Nobody pays attention to it. There are simply too many variables in the game of baseball for a scientific formula to accurately gauge a player’s ability. Smart math people need to do what they do best: MATH. Whoever made this formula i’m sure is some kind of genius, but unless you’ve played the game at a high level you simply cannot understand what goes into the game, let alone create a stat for it.
….he’s still one of the WORST defensive shortstops in the game…
FTFY
….he’s still one of the WORST defensive shortstops in the game…
FTFY
Last year, he was the third worst defensive shortstop among starting SS. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
I don’t know which is funnier:
That you legit seem to think that Jeter is or has ever been one of the best defensive shortstops in the game or…
That you cited Hanley Ramirez as one of the few guys better than him.
I’m being punked, right?
rollins isnt as good as derek?!!?
rollins on 1 leg is better than dj..
gtfohwtbs
It’s bad business. Well, bringing Jeter back is good business, overpaying him isn’t. As I’ve said before, he’s already been paid handsomely for what he’s done in the past, he doesn’t need to get paid for it again. His next contract should reflect what he’s likely to do, and $20 million a year is WAY overestimating what he’s likely to do. I’ve said too that Jeter needs the Yankees as much as they need him, so why are they the ones bending over backwards? Shouldn’t Jeter be happy to take a pay cut to stay in NY and keep all his endorsements? Just sayin…..
Jeter is not worth that much, especially after the horrible season he just had. I do not see any other team paying half that to get someone with those numbers. Let him go out there and see what numbers other teams offer him. I doubt it would be anywhere near what the Yanks are going to offer.
Jeter + YES Network = $$$$ for the Yankees
There is a lot more than baseball skills factoring into his value to the Yankees.
what are these big dollars that Jeter brings to the yankees no one has actually showed how much money Jeter generates for the Yanks and how much of a dip in revenue the Yanks would take if he left…can someone show me please….because if the Yanks start losing because Jeter is slipping then what will he be worth and how much will the Yes Network make then.
i wonder if he will try to get a deal with a different team, negotiate or just accept it
Who cares? Jeter’s contract is an issue for nobody else besides the Yankees. All the press is looking for out of this is perhaps a little bit of drama between Jeter and the still living Stienbrenners.
Everyone has an opinion… apparently so do you.
What do u think the press does?
Jeter so not worth another 50-60 million for 3 years..I am so sick of people saying that he what he has done for this team over the last 13 years or so..BULL CRAP, he already got paid for that…Yankee fans do not wanna admit it, but, He is obviously at the end of his career…Move on!!!!!
Oakland Raiders are doing great huh.
5-4 is pretty good I’d say for a team that is regularly below .500. And he brought up a valid point. Jeter was paid for his good production and loyalty when he was producing throughout his career. I think “rewarding” him now is pretty much paying him twice for what he has done.
I think Henry’s being sincere. Considering the way the Raiders have performed the last few years, they’re doing pretty great.
With the Pats having their first round pick next year, I have to ask: what the heck, guys?!
I felt he was being sarcastic because of the way he put huh at the end of the sentence. I’m sorry if he was being sincere, but I didn’t think he was, and I was a little off put by that.
marshen….i agree
Brian Hart…..your wrong as a yankee fan i do know he is at the end of his career…but is still worth every penny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
3/45 or 3/60? that’s what i call a bad deal, if they do offer him that. i understand he’s a lifetime Yankee so obviously they’ll overpay for him, but you can’t talk him into a 3/30?
Man this is bogus..
Why can’t we switch arod to SS, and sign beltre for less money.. He hits the same (career-wise) as jeter did last season..
This loyalty talk pisses me off. I thought jeter was the “good guy” if he was loyal he would realize that he was gettin overpaid
Arod to SS? Wayyyyyy to late for that especially after his last hip operation. No way Arod can play SS today.
And the time for A-Rod to SS and Jeter elsewhere was in 2004 when A-Rod was clearly the better defensive player.
to sum up: Yankees are going to overpay someone no other team has shown any interest.
This is perfect Overpay for the most overrated player in the game
What a bunch of Idiots ….. But this is The yankees !
I have a question for ppl. Safe to say that the gradual decline in Jeter’s performance has, for the most part, been excusively on the defensive end.
2007- .322/.388/.452 w/ 12 hrs and 15 SB- BABIP of .367-56 bb and 100 ko
2008- .300/.363/.408 w/ 11 hrs and 11 SB- BABIP of .333-52 bb and 85 ko
2009- .334/.406/.465 w/ 18 hrs and 30 SB- BABIP of .368-72 bb and 90 ko
2010- .270/.340/.370 w/ 10 hrs and 18 SB- BABIP of .307-63 bb and 106 ko
1st things that grabbed me is that Jeter never was a great guy for drawing walks, or at least not over the last years. His BABIP is the lowest it’s ever been so maybe he’s even a little unlucky. His 2010 BABIP as mentioned was .307 but his career is .356. His ko rate is the highest it’s been in the last 4 years but he’s ko’d over 100x in 8 seasons so the ko’s are probably not a real issue.
His LD% of 16% is the lowest in the last 4 seasons.
2007-22% 2008-19% 2009-21%- His career avg is 22%
His 2010 GO/AO ratio of 2.77 is the highest it’s ever been since 2006 and severly higher than his career average of 1.90.
2007- 1.85 2008-1.89 2009-2.59
O-Swing% – Percentage of pitches a batter swings at outside the strike zone.
2010-28% -2009-22%- 2008-23% – 2007-21%
To sum it up it appears that Jeter is swinging at more pitches outside the strikezone (O-Swing %), hitting a lot more ground balls (GO/FB rate) and not squaring up enough pitches and hitting them hard (LD%).
My question is was 2010 an off year we can chalk up to bad luck and trying to do too much or can he correct himself possibly with better pitch selection that he’s shown in the past and maybe a correction in his swing to get more lift on his swing and avoid the GB?
25 years – 100 million. 3 years as a player and the rest as an adviser or front office person. This is a fair contract as we don’t have to break the bank and he stays a Yankee for life.
how ridiculously and utterly overpaid. i love it. it’s almost as bad as a JD Drew contract. or John Lackey for that matter…
They Should Offer Him 30MM For 2 Years That A Real Good Offer (Perfect)
5 years $$$ 100MM please.
Did any of the Yankee fans read the article on the Pinstripe Bible website…The Yankees do have a budget…and if Jeter gets 20 mill and Pettite gets 11 mill and Rivera gets 15 mill they really can’t afford Lee based on what their budgets have been in the past.Things are getting tight…The Yankees should push to restructure Arod’s contract and pay Jeter and Rivera defered money…Arod’s contract is the big problem…but if they ask him to take 10 million less per year over the next seven years(70 million total) but pay him over 14 years after his player contract ends with and extra half million a year or a million year added on…that might convince Arod to accept deferred payment…same should go for Jeter…If they offer him a 2 year player contract for 50 mill(which i’m totally agaisnt)but if they must overpay him then pay it over 8 or 10 years…5 mill a year over 10 doesn’t hurt but letting him walk after two makes sense…