Here are some links from around the league as Wednesday turns into Thursday…
- John Lannan requested a trade earlier tonight, but MLB.com's Bill Ladson hears the Nationals aren't close to making a deal. They've talked to at least 20 teams about the southpaw, but his $5MM salary is a sticking point. Washington wants prospects or bench players in return.
- Unsurprisingly, the Yankees top baseball with a $197.9MM payroll according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today (Twitter links). It's their lowest payroll since 2007. The Padres bring up the rear at $53.9MM.
- Nightengale reports (on Twitter) that Jamie Moyer will earn $1.1MM with the Rockies this season. The 49-year-old made the club after signing a minor league deal this winter.
- Orioles GM Dan Duquette said there is no update on Dana Eveland, according to Steve Melewski of MASNSports.com (on Twitter). The left-hander was designated for assignment last week and they are still going through the process.
- The Orioles are expected to acquire Chris Robinson, reports Melewski (on Twitter). The catcher hit .316/.345/.396 in 240 plate appearances while in the Cubs' farm system last year. He is now listed on the roster of Baltimore's Triple-A affilliate.
surely someone bites for lannan…i wouldnt be sad to see the braves get him
Yeah he is somewhat valuable it’s not like he’s worth a bag of baseballs like Pelfrey (by the way I’m a mets fan)
As much argument/debate there is on this site I think everyone can agree we want Moyer to get to 300 wins. I mean come on, that dude is 49 years old!
It’d be good for baseball to have another 300 game winner, but he’d be pitching at least 2 more quality seasons (or three decent ones) to get there. I just don’t see it.
IF he was a normal pitcher I would agree with you, however this is a 49 year old who is going to be the number 2 pitcher on a team. We are talking about players breaking down in their late thirties and bad contracts, however if someone had given moyer a 20 year deal when he turned 30 they would be happy still. It is just ridiculous that this guy is going at 49. So normally I would agree with you but frankly I will suspend logic for Moyer. That guy is just a freak.
To hear most Rockies fans tell it, Moyer will be their #2 because everyone else has been pretty awful during ST, not because anyone expects him to lead a charge toward the playoffs. I have no idea if that’s true, just what I’m hearing from them, which contrasts somewhat with the picture of a guy who will be pitching until he’s nearly 52.
Eh, wot? I thought we were allowed to be skeptical of age. People (myself included) do it to the Yankees all the time. Besides, its not like I was being unduly pessimistic. I was just restating what the Brewers’ fans are saying.
lol even better Josh Outman to DL because he has an oblique strain from excessive vomiting
I’d prefer him not to. Everybody knows how the HOF loves 300 wins and IMHO, he’s not HOF worthy. Worthy of consideration but not enshrinement. More likely Hall of Pretty Good material. Same feeling with Andy Pettitte.
I mean, Moyer’s career ERA is 4.24, which is better than his FIP and xFIP.
i think because of how long moyer pitched, even if he did hit 300, he wouldn’t be put in the hall. That number will simply be a product of his longevity, which is impressive none the less, but not hall worthy.
Only way the Nationals are getting someone of value from Lannan is if they take the salary methinks
Yea you would think so, especially since they said all he is is a AAA pitcher for them, therefore whatever value he had is gone.
Dude, it’s not like he’s injured/damaged goods. Just cause he got demoted to AAA doesn’t mean a magic wand was waved and his entire MLB track record has vanished. Only really casual fans seriously think that’s how a GMs opinion of a player is formed.
The Gnats have an idea of what they want for him, and everyone knows what level he’s capable of producing at. Either someone will bite, or the dude will rot in AAA for a year, simple as that.
learn to spell, its “nats”
Seems the asking price is coming down. Yesterday the article here on the site was a starting positional player and now it is a reserve, or some kind of prospect.
Am with you they are going have to pay some large chunk of his salary to get anything at all back.
If Lannan hadn’t already started making noises about a trade, they could have maybe held onto him until later in the season and waited for a team to get an injury, then maybe get something for him and not haveto pay as much of the salary, but right now they are in a pretty large bind and sending him down seems to have made it worse.
Congrats to Jamie Moyer!
Why not a swap with the Angels for Garrett Richards? Angels get their 5th starter and the Nationals get a younger pitcher for the future.
Cuz the Angels would never agree to that trade. Lannan for Cantu? Now we’re talking.
Why take on the $5 million in salary the Nats aren’t willing to negotiate on. By sending him to the minors the Nats just proved Lannan’s true value.
It shocked me Philly never tried to get him as a backup/utility guy this spring. He can play 3b/1b, 2b in a pinch and might be able to make a 3rd comeback with his bat, as he is still only 30YO as hard to believe as it is he’s been around so long.
Philly has been signing all sorts of other nobodies to MILB deals and Cantu is on one with Anaheim, couldn’t have taken much to get him from them.
The Phillies have Ty Wiggington, who’s very much comparable to Cantu.
I understand that, but Wiggy is going to be pressed into a LOT of FT duty as it is with Howard and Utley out during the season and already at the start of the season as it is.
A Cantu type, with a average 3b glove and decent 1b glove, with a potential revived power bat at either corner, even 2b would be a sweet addition for Philly.
It couldn’t hurt the liklihood of his bat being revived getting to play somewhere like Philly for a change either. Thunderdome, San Diego, Land Shark stadium are not exactly place that play up to Cantu’s power bat and he didn’t do too bad a few seasons at the Thunderdome and Land Shark.
Let him maybe get 300 -/+ at Philly and would be curious to see what he could do with Wiggy as the pretty much full time rotational player for Howard/Utley.
It’s not that bad of an idea, but I think they are looking for a CF or any OF not a pitcher
Nationals are better off hanging onto Lannan, really. They’re not gonna get a solid CF for the guy and whatever he brings back isn’t going to help them this year anyway. With Strasburg on an innings limit, Wang being made of glass, and Zimmermann’s previous high being 160 innings, they’re gonna need some depth in the rotation if they plan on contending in such a stacked division this year.
Not sure why they chose Detwiler over Lannan in the first place. Guy really struggles with allowing base-runners in the minors, a 66 IP sample at the big-league level last year and 18 spring innings just doesn’t cut it for me. I HIGHLY doubt he sustains that level of performance.
maybe a Japanese team might want Lannan?? Cause I find it hard to believe any team doesnt have someone who is just as or better than Lannan in triple A
A Japanese team did give Brad Penny a 4 mil dollar contract… Although, I think that was only because Penny throws hard.
Not sure how Lannan would take getting traded overseas. But, it would really be something by the Nats. Actually, I think it would be really awesome:
Nats: “You wanted to be traded, right? Good news, you can pack your bags!”
The Astros could use someone like John Lannan. Have you seen their rotation?
Coming from the guy whose teams’ ace is Mike Pelfrey 90% of the season, when Johan Santana actually isn’t injured.
Dickey was the team’s ace last season for one. I just think the Astros could use another starter. The Nationals aren’t trading him in-division to the Mets and I think the Astros could use another starter if they’re using Myers as a closer. Besides, Freddy Wilpon isn’t going to get five million for another starter.
Thanks but no thanks. Our rotation is ok without Lannan. Wandy has had an era less than 3.60 each of the last 4 years, Bud Norris had 176 strikeouts last year with a 3.77 era, JA Happ is still young and is a hard throwing lefty, and the two really young guys – Lucas Harrell and Kyle Weiland threw well in spring training and have strong track records in the minors. We’ll take our chances and our lumps. No need for a $5M re-tread from the Nationals.
…alas, Moyer doesn’t turn 50 until November. Moyer is the 3rd oldest pitcher ever to suit up for a MLB game.
i think the Nats plan is to trade Detwiler. Give him a few starts to build up his visibility. he can’t be sent to the minors anymore since out of options. with fragile staff. the nats really need a 6 man rotation. It is bad for Lannan short term and i don’t think Nats handled this well but he should pipe down. dominate at AAA and coem back in May and never look back. laugh at this experience next year in World Series 🙂
I don’t think the Nats should trade any of them. They really *don’t* have a pitching surplus. Wang picks up the leftover innings from Strasburg’s innings cap. Lannan is insurance for either Detwiler struggling or anyone else who goes down (which over the course of a season, is very likely).
Bench players you say? How about one Brett Pill, if you squint really hard you can call him a prospect too! The Giants just refuse to give up on the Zito contract, I have to believe this is coming from above more than on the field level of operations. Sunk costs are a hard concept for the Rainy Day Funders to understand in baseball terms. I would love to see Lannan in the French Vanilla, Zito dfa’d and getting paid, all for a measly 5MM and a prospect or two? Giddy up.