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Rangers Scouting Both Zack Greinke & Cole Hamels

By Mike Axisa | June 30, 2012 at 6:56pm CDT

With four starting pitchers on the disabled list, the Rangers are scouting both Zack Greinke and Cole Hamels prior to the trade deadline according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. In a video, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says he's heard that Rangers GM Jon Daniels "is not messing around."

Texas reportedly had a scout at Greinke's most recent start in Cincinnati. The Brewers are said to be prepared to move their ace right-hander if the two sides are unable to agree to a contract extension in the weeks leading up to the deadline. A Rangers official told MLB.com's Peter Gammons that they will not be in on Greinke, however (Twitter link).

The Phillies have yet to make Hamels available, though GM Ruben Amaro Jr. has indicated a willingness to sell if his team does not improve its performance. Morosi speculates that Rangers' prospect Mike Olt could be a fit for Philadelphia, who is looking for a long-term solution at third base.

The Rangers are currently without Derek Holland (shoulder), Colby Lewis (forearm), Alexi Ogando (groin), and Neftali Feliz (elbow). They signed Roy Oswalt as a free agent last month and he's since made two starts for Texas.

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  1. Ryan Vooris

    13 years ago

    Hamels to Texas. Greinke to Atlanta. 

    Texas over Atlanta in the World Series. 

    Reply
    • bigpat

      13 years ago

       Atlanta has to make the playoffs first, not really going to be an easy task.

      I have a feeling we might be seeing Pittsburgh vs Atlanta in a one game playoff, a fitting way to try and end the curse.

      Reply
      • Guest 4483

        13 years ago

        Lol @ Pittsburgh getting a wild card spot. Sweet dreaming.

        Reply
        • bigpat

          13 years ago

           lol @ 39 home runs and 7-1-1 in their series’s this month. lol all day. lol.

          Reply
          • Guest 4481

            13 years ago

            Last time I checked the season was 6 months, not 1.

            Reply
      • tomymogo

        13 years ago

        Mets, Nationals, Braves, Reds, Pirates, Giants and the dissapearing Dodgers are gonna have a battle. Cardinals maybe, but doubt it, specially without Carpenter.

        Really it’s unfair for NL East teams, Phillies are getting Howard, and Halladay back and just got Utley back. Nat’s may get Drew Storen, Henry Rodriguez, and Jayson Werth back. Braves getting Peter Moylan back, and hopefully a starting pitcher like Greinke. The Marlins should improve, and the Mets are in there a game ahead of the Braves with no signs of slowing down.

        Reply
    • tomymogo

      13 years ago

      I like you’re thinking but Atlanta over Texas

      Reply
    • 1980CHAMPS

      13 years ago

      Would that end the Rangers Buffalo Bills curse?

      Reply
  2. dylanp5030

    13 years ago

    I’ll take Olt for Hamels any day!!!

    Reply
    • dylanp5030

      13 years ago

      Or Olt and Martin for Hamels and Hamels agrees to an extension prior to trade.

      Reply
      • Steven

        13 years ago

        lol if you are thinking of either Martin Perez or Leonys Martin, that is never going to happen and should not ever happen. 

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        • dylanp5030

          13 years ago

          It’d be worth it of he agrees to a fair deal prior.

          Reply
          • KyleB

            13 years ago

            “a fair deal” lol

            Reply
        • Bobby

          13 years ago

          I know right? Haha soon as i read Perez i started laughing out loud.

          Reply
      • fred

        13 years ago

         olt and Martin for hamels is the only deal i would do. i would rather take the chance of resigning him than just take a crap deal

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        • dylanp5030

          13 years ago

          Olt for Hamels isn’t a crap deal, but L Martin and Olt for Hamels is much better!

          Reply
  3. MadmanTX 2

    13 years ago

    I’d give up Olt unless Texas is dedicated to converting him to first base and getting rid of Moreland. Olt will be a great player…but Texas wants to win the World Series now.

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    • dylanp5030

      13 years ago

      If the Phillies pack it in, they could get Victorino too and Put Josh back in a corner OF spot and have a Cruz/Hamilton/Victorino OF and then sign Victorino if they can’t extend Hamilton.

      I’d really like to see Phillies get Olt and a pitcher like Ross in a deal for Hamels.

      Reply
      • MadmanTX 2

        13 years ago

        The problem there is that it wouldn’t keep Murphy’s bat in the lineup unless they DH him and I don’t see that.

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        • dylanp5030

          13 years ago

          That’s true. But a lineup of

          Kinsler
          Andrus
          Hamilton
          Beltre
          Cruz
          Napoli
          Young
          Murphy
          Victorino

          Would be awesome

          Reply
          • Kurisu Rg

            13 years ago

             Yes it would, but there’s no way in hell that Washington bats the Leadershippings Leader of Leadershippings Young lower than 5th.

            Reply
  4. dylanp5030

    13 years ago

    Vic/Hamels for Olt and some pitching prospects.

    Reply
    • fred

      13 years ago

       I am sorry Hamels is the top 3 lefty in baseball. to not get a top 50 prospect in return is ridiculous. CC got a 2 top 100 prospects back in return. So just getting Olt is no good. They better be sending back a top 100 pitcher back as well that is ready plus another single a prospect that has very good potential

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      • dylanp5030

        13 years ago

        Oh, I agree but the fact that there is no comp picks for losing Hamels for any team besides the Phillies hurts the value. If the Rangers offered Martin and Olt for Hamels, he would be gone yesterday. That would be the CF and 3B for the next 6 years for 1/2 a season of Hamels, which would make the Rangers the favorites for the WS

        Reply
  5. frogger6

    13 years ago

    Brewers could really use mike olt

    Reply
    • Amish_willy

      13 years ago

      No kidding. Would be like getting a second chance with Brett Lawrie.

      Reply
  6. Carter

    13 years ago

    Hamels would be a short term rental as he’s a free agent at the end of the year, after which he’ll sign with the LAD.  TX is too hot for him.  TX needs a roof.

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    • Guest 4484

      13 years ago

      It’s too hot for him? What are you his agent?

      Reply
      • rainyperez

        13 years ago

        Don’t worry we have a team of agents representing Cole Hamels on these boards. Apparently we know that he will resign with the Phillies because he said in an interview he does not want to play for L.A.

        Reply
    • b00tz

      13 years ago

      I agree. I think both would prefer to play in LA next season. Arlington is a bandbox

      Reply
      • Kurisu Rg

        13 years ago

         Not like CBP is a pitcher’s haven and he’s been great there.

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        • Amish_willy

          13 years ago

          It’s interesting that Cliff Lee was in the same position, TEX or PHI, and ultimately choose PHI. Seems like for a pitcher, there are a lot of perks staying in the National league if the money is the same. The Dodgers I’d imagine will end up by far the most attractive landing spot for Hamels, in terms of all of the above.

          After the Puig move by LA, you kind of get the feeling their going to give Hamels a record contract. I’m expecting at a minimum the guaranteed money to equal what they gave Kemp, but over 7 years. I wouldn’t even be shocked if it ended up being that much over 6 years as LA gets a little desperate to land their man knowing their will be several lucrative offers for his services. At this point in the game they’d probably sneeze at “over-paying” him 20m or so.

          As a Padre fan I’m expecting his inevitable signing up the I-5 to be bitter-sweet.

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    • vtadave

      13 years ago

      Ok…. well it’s supposed to be in the mid-90s in Philly this week, so guess it gets hot there too.

      Reply
    • jwsox

      13 years ago

      Texas is too hot yet LA isn’t? Yeah that makes sense

      Reply
      • Marco

        13 years ago

        jwsox, I lived 18 years in Texas and 8 years in Los Angeles.     And there’s no comparison, Texas has a far more stifling heat.

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        • KyleB

          13 years ago

          If you keep yourself in shape, and are truly a great pitcher the heat isn’t much of a factor. It’s funny that people want to always disregard Texas getting pitchers because it’s too hot. It’s even funnier considering how well our pitchers do there.

          Reply
  7. LEGITFANTASY

    13 years ago

    my guess….they are trying to show off Perez….thats why he is starting today. I’ve been to lots of games in Round Rock this year…Perez is def not pitching up to his potential. – Last time i talked to Reid (GM) of Round Rock he said Perez is lights out or gets his tits ripped…told me they might shop him…and he was sure they would get some goods for him….
    Grienke? Hamels? Perez and another prospect ….who knows

    Reply
    • hustler_14

      13 years ago

      He’s a young pitcher…they all tend to either get ripped or look fantastic…if Reid did indeed tell you that, its not newsbreaking…he(Perez) looked poised with his pitches allthough he used his changeup a bit much…  

      Reply
  8. LEGITFANTASY

    13 years ago

    No wonder Perez was called up…..hoping he shows off his goodies….

    Reply
    • Kurisu Rg

      13 years ago

       Or maybe because everyone else was either hurt or not as good?

      Reply
  9. Crewers

    13 years ago

    Who knows maybe the Rangers will become to desperate and package up Jurickson for Greinke…

    Reply
    • Steven

      13 years ago

      Texas isn’t that desperate, and I think Profar is almost untouchable. Their rotation is patch work right now but Ogando and Holland are close to being back. A rotation of Harrison, Darvish, Holland, Oswalt and Ogando doesn’t sound very desperate. 

      Reply
    • KyleB

      13 years ago

      Yea, I bet a team that’s 50-29 is just aching to overpay for a former ace.

      Reply
  10. tomymogo

    13 years ago

    Braves need Greinke but need to sign him long term if they’re gonna do it

    Reply
  11. Fan_in_the_Cliff

    13 years ago

    Olt for Hamels or Greinke is the most I would want to give up as a Rangers fan.  We are talking about an all-star potential gold glove third baseman for a 1/2 season rental.  That said I would do it for Greinke or Hamels and not look back.  Hope to god that Gallo can hit in the minors and is ready to replace Beltre in 4 years.  Keeping Profar is nice… I would much rather package Perez and Garcia or something along those lines.

    Reply
  12. frank_costanza

    13 years ago

    GOD I hope the Phillies can get Olt for Hamels. Last I heard, the Rangers didn’t want to get rid of Olt because he could help in the bigs right now.

    Reply
    • KyleB

      13 years ago

      There’s no way they get Olt unless there’s some assurance that Hamels stays with Texas. That assurance will not be there, so neither will the deal. Texas isn’t desperate.

      Reply
  13. Steven

    13 years ago

    As a Ranger fan I would love to have Hamels first then Greinke but Olt seems pricey unless they sign long term, then I would definitely do it. We can always replenish the Olt loss by trading one of our pitchers. I love that Texas is so active and always trying to get better. With Colby probably not returning next season, we could definitely use one of those guys.

    Reply
  14. drjayphd

    13 years ago

    Personally, I’m surprised by all the talk about Olt. I only saw him a couple of times when he was still playing Legion ball, so I’m not exactly that up-to-date on his status, but I didn’t think I’d actually get to write about an actual prospect back when I was covering southern Connecticut high school sports. The best I thought I was going to do was Jason LaVorgna (35th round pick by the Mets, never made it past A-ball) and Tim Binkoski (undrafted in 2007, signed with the Phillies, topped out at Williamsport).

    Reply
  15. Digital Video Synd.

    13 years ago

    At this point why would any big-time pitcher go to Texas with their old-school ‘burn out your young arm’ philosophy?  One look at the DL explains how well that is working.

    Reply
    • Pecos_Drifter

      13 years ago

      Terms of Service won’t allow me to respond to this……but the letter “i” would start the first word…….

      Reply
    • KT Banks

      13 years ago

      Ogando- Groin from running out a bunt while playing interleage.
      Holland- Was sick and lost 15 pounds, causing him to lose velocity
      Lewis- Tendonitis and is 32 and has pitched 200+ innings the past few years, not necessarily “young”

      Feliz is the only one with real arm trouble and this happened after 42 innings pitched and roughly 6 innings per game (7 games started).. not really ‘burning out our young arms.’

      Reply
  16. Scott Buchanan

    13 years ago

    what about Garza for Olt

    Reply
    • Metsfan4ever

      13 years ago

      u better be joking…..

      Reply

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