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Phillies Notes: Cole Hamels, Rangers, Charlie Manuel

By Daniel Seco 2 | July 8, 2012 at 10:10pm CDT

The Phillies concluded the first half of the season by dropping an afternoon game against the Braves by the score of 4-3. The setback marked Philadelphia's 50th loss of the season as the team currently sits in last place in the National League East with a record of 37-50. The 2011 Phillies did not lose their 50th game until September 12 as the squad went on to win 102 games in route to the division title. Let's check in on the latest news and headlines from Citizens Bank Park with the All-Star break nearly upon us…

  • Cole Hamels spoke with CSNPhilly.com's Leslie Gudel about his current status with the Phillies and his future beyond this season as the trade deadline quickly approaches. Hamels said while he would be happy to sign a long-term deal with the Phillies, he's curious to explore free agency and potentially end up with a team on the West Coast like the Dodgers.
  • Look for Hamels to land with the Rangers if the Phillies end up dealing the left-hander, reports Buster Olney of ESPN.com (via Twitter). Olney spoke with baseball officials on Sunday who deemed Texas as the prohibitive favorites in the Hamels arms race. 
  • Phillies manager Charlie Manuel isn't concerned about his job security given his self-proclaimed belief that he is a winner, writes Todd Zolecki of MLB.com. "How concerned am I? I’ve got a lot of confidence in myself," said Manuel. "And I am a fighter. And not only that, I think I’m a winner."
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  1. Bennie

    13 years ago

    HaHa.  Olney tried to connect the Rangers to every big free agent in the off season only to be wrong everytime.

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  2. dylanp5030

    13 years ago

    He also said that he would still sign with the Phillies after he got traded. My question is, does that lower his trade value knowing that he could potentially just end up back in Philly.

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    • philiafan14364

      13 years ago

      Doubt it, if the Phils trade him, there’s no way he comes back in the winter, regardless of what he says. If the Phillies trade him, its because they can’t sign him. 

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      • Phillies_Aces35

        13 years ago

        Or because they have a stripped farm system and need to fill 3B, CF, or the back end of the rotation with guys making $500,000.

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    • jb226 2

      13 years ago

      It lowers his trade value knowing he’s unlikely to sign an extension and wants to test free agency.  I doubt it matters to teams whether or not there’s a possibility he ends up back where he started.

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    • Guest 4452

      13 years ago

      yes

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  3. Bob Smiley

    13 years ago

    notice..Martin Perez has been up for a few starts…simply to showcase his goods. – i could see the Phillies asking for Perez/Olt/Neil Ramirez/Roughned Odor…2 of the 4 would be in the conversation.

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    • Javier Mejia

      13 years ago

      not for 2 month rental.

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    • dylanp5030

      13 years ago

      I think they would settle for just Olt. In the end, I think that is what may happen…

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    • KyleB

      13 years ago

      Perez was up because of all of the injuries the Rangers have had.

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    • fred

      13 years ago

      you dont get him for the hand full of starts in the regular season you get him for what he has done in the playoffs

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    • J.Stewart

      13 years ago

       There is NO way Texas is going to give up any top picks for hamels when they will receive zero picks when he walks. They did not build up the depth of the team by being stupid.

      Reply
  4. Phillies_Aces35

    13 years ago

    I wonder if they just go ahead and trade him if he said he’s giving them first chance at signing him in the off season (meaning they’re his first choice). He’s probably looking at it as if he can get a legit 3B, CF, or Starter prospect back as return, it’s only going to solidify the team for the long haul.

    In the mean time, he takes a shot at World Series ring #2 with whomever acquires him.

    I personally would prefer they just sign him at the deadline though and not have to worry about whether he’s coming back or not. The above scenario was just me wondering aloud. IMO, he’s just as important going forward as any prospect they could acquire. Ace 28 year old left handers don’t grow on trees.

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    • Dave Traverso

      13 years ago

      Couldn’t have said it better myself. RAJ had a closed door meeting with Cole last week and I guarantee that they discussed him coming back here as a possibility even if they trade him

      Reply
  5. start_wearing_purple

    13 years ago

    Are we laying bets on how much Hamels’ agent paid the interviewer to specifically mention the Dodgers?

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  6. Anti-NBA

    13 years ago

    Hamels has mentioned he’d like to pitch near home “Dodgers”.

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  7. philiafan14364

    13 years ago

    The Phillies have been successful IN SPITE of Manuel, not because of him. Hopefully, this season will be enough to get Charlie canned and Sandberg brought up as the replacement. 

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  8. Phillies_Aces35

    13 years ago

    Charlie hasn’t really done himself any favors. Not having his star players has really exposed his lack of strategic planning as a manager… some of the things he does makes absolutely no sense.

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  9. MadmanTX 2

    13 years ago

    Given recent events, it looks like the current pitching will stand, but the Rangers need more pop in the lineup. A powerful bat–even a rental one wouldn’t be amiss. There’s a vacancy at first base. Tonight, the lineup is struggling to defeat the Twins, who’ve only scored 3 runs.

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    • KyleB

      13 years ago

      I would really like Hunter Pence. I don’t care much for Cole Hamels: Edit: to add him to our rotation, over a position player and great bat like Pence.

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      • fred

        13 years ago

        I guess world series/NLCS MVP and top 5 lefties in the game you dont like huh???? funny if you ask me

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        • Guest 4455

          13 years ago

          its funnier that he prefers pences circus in the outfield

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        • KyleB

          13 years ago

          I meant I don’t care much for adding him to our rotation. If I had to take one of them in a trade right now, it’d be Pence because our bats are struggling.

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      • Phillies_Aces35

        13 years ago

        Watch him play for a year. He’s a good complementary piece who we paid a star/difference maker price.

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        • KyleB

          13 years ago

          I’ve been watching him since he came up with the Astros. If I were the GM I would intend on him replacing Cruz coming up.

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  10. LifelongMets

    13 years ago

    Honestly, speaking as a baseball fan rather than a Mets fan, Charlie is only a winner because of the boatload of talent the GM provided him. Look at his past– he’s had stars like Manny, Thome, Howard, Rollins, Utley, Burrell, Victorino and even Thome again. In all honesty, last years Phillies UNDERPERFORMED despite winning 102 games. I honestly believed they could’ve won many more ballgames under the watch of other managers and could’ve easily made it back into the NLCS.

    Again, talking as a baseball fan; not a Mets fan.

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    • dylanp5030

      13 years ago

      I agree.

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    • Lunchbox45

      13 years ago

       controlling superstars with massive egos is not as easy as you make it out to be

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  11. sourbob

    13 years ago

    Manuel concluded his remarks by saying, “I’m a driver. I’m a winner. Things are gonna change. I can feel it.”

    Reply
  12. yahoo-WHDI74N2ELXXOA7TDHWBY5VKXE

    13 years ago

    Great interview by Leslie Gudel.  Enjoy your last few weeks in Philadelphia Cole.  And good luck with the Dodgers over the next 7 or so years.

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