3:37pm: The Pirates haven't had discussions about Drew with the Diamondbacks either, Olney reports (on Twitter).
3:27pm: The Red Sox and Diamondbacks have not spoken about Drew, ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports (on Twitter).
1:21pm: The Pirates, Red Sox and Tigers are among the teams interested in Diamondbacks shortstop Stephen Drew, Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports report. Drew has played in 15 games this season since returning from the ankle injury that sidelined him for most of a year.
No team in baseball has obtained a lower OPS from its shortstops than the Pirates (.515), as noted in the FOX report. The Red Sox would likely use Drew in a reserve role and the Tigers, who are also interested in Diamondbacks infielder Ryan Roberts, could use him off the bench or at shortstop. Meanwhile, the Diamondbacks would rely on Willie Bloomquist and John McDonald if they complete a trade.
Drew earns $7.75MM this year on a contract that includes a $10MM mutual option for 2013 ($1.35MM buyout). He has a .192/.246/.250 batting line in 57 plate appearances since returning from the disabled list. Diamondbacks managing partner Ken Kendrick expressed his disappointment in Drew earlier this year.
The Mariners have discussed Drew with the Diamondbacks, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported this week. Rosenthal has suggested that the Athletics could also be a fit for Drew.
Drew is average at best, and on top off that he is lazy and has little motor. Last time the Red Sox had a Drew, that turned out to be a mistake…
JD Drew was great in Boston
Produced when not injured, i liked the guy don’t get me wrong, but he was overpaid and soon his brother will be too.
He was worth $73M in his time in Boston and was paid $70M. He more than earned his contract even with his terrible 2011 (and all the injuries) – free agents never earn their contracts, but he did.
Curious were you using WAR to evaluate his value if 1 WAR = 5.5 Mil.
yeah
Thanks, i see the value of WAr fluctuate anywhere form 4.5 to 6.5, where do you see it?
I don’t know where you can actually find the current figure, I just used the 5.5 as kind of a middle ground (I know it was supposed to be at about 5 and trending up in the 2010-2011 offseason).
Also, I actually meant to say $72M not $73, but the point is the same. And even if you want to use the low end (4.5) it works out to about $60M, which is as close to earning his contract as free agents generally get.
Because we are looking a few years back i think 4-4.5 may be more accurate, especially since if we account for positional scarcity he was a power hitting right fielder. Anyway thanks again.
Probably a fair point (a Win may have been worth 4-4.5 in his first year and 5-5.5 in his last year), but as I just noted, even figuring the whole contract at 4.5 he was worth about $60M, which is only $10M away from his salary, and that’s actually pretty good for a free agent contract (they really almost never earn their contracts).
Exactly, its hard to formulate, a WAR on the market may even push to an excess of 8 mil this season, especially with new big bidders(Dodgers, Pirates, etc.) I am extremely worrisome about Ethier’s extension, but if the owners say that contract won’t stop them from making moves then so be it. Extreme overpay in my opinion most of the value though stems from his clutch hitting ability and affability.
Yeah, I really didn’t like that contract for the Dodgers, and it’s almost got to handcuff them on some level. Even if it doesn’t, there are other outfielders who are going to be available in the next couple of years who are better than Ethier and could be had for around the same money.
One cannot forget that 1st contract season and one particular month (June ’07) when he carried the team. One could argue it paid for itself that month alone.
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Possibility NO 2nd WS in 3 years without his pretty much carrying the team that month.
I don’t get the guff JD still takes. Sure he was over paid but that wasn’t his fault. He played a great right field, was an all star in ’08(not to mention the all star game MVP that year), played a big role in the ’07 playoffs…
He was one paid for what he brought to the table…
JD Drew was instrumental in 2007. Though I didn’t care for his club house demeanor and was frustrated like many Sox fans at his lack of production later in his career, I will never say a bad word about him. We have a WS ring because of it…and that’s something @Dodgersarelife:disqus wishes the Dodgers had instead of watching the Giants winning two in the last 10 years. 😛
they have one 1… get your facts straight…
LMAO! You will rattle the cage of the defenders of the faith on the dog known as JD. The defenders are like those Japanese they use to find of the Pacific Islands in the 50s thinking the war was still going on. Sox paid for rib eye and got hamburger helper without the hamburg. Like most Sox FA signings it was a dud.
Stephen Drew was one of the better all around SS in the NL prior to his freakish injury. He’s better than average.
Now before anyone says why would you trade for a guy hitting in the .100s, it’s been a small sample size and if you’ve watched his games, he’s been hitting a ton of line drive outs.
Sounds like a fit for the Dodgers then, washed up, worthless, bums that are over paid to hit near the mendoza line…
You don’t get the idea of small sample size. He’s only had like 60 AB and has played only 15 games. That would be like calling a player washed up on April 19. You have to watch the player when the sample size is this small. I can tell you he has been scorching the ball. He’s hit like six line drive outs.
He’s drilled some outs, hitting the ball very well.
I get the idea of small sample sizes, i was elaborating on the Dodgers tendency to only look at players who are washed up and due for an overpay, as for Drew not any of those things but overpaid for his value because of positional scarcity. However, Drew is a great piece of the bench but not for 8-12 mill that he might receive on the open market. His defense has been ok but we all know with age his D will decline. I do like the idea of the Tigers getting him and trying him at second. That is a large marginal value there considering how bad Detriot’s second basemen have been this season. Could also formulate a solid left side of the infield with Castellanos in a few years when Peralta is gone.
Not only that, coming off a freakish injury that sidelined him for a year. He’ll turn around and provide for some team.
As a reserve/bench role, would be leagues better than Nick Punto
The Buccos will take him! Can’t hit worse than Clint Barmes. Maybe package Drew and Upton together, than we’ll give you Taillon or Cole, and maybe even Marte.
Take Uribe then, if you want a marginal value replacement for Clint Barmes, otherwise the Bucs should save their assets and prospects.
Hahaha, Uribe. That was a nice signing. But I think you are right. I thought Drew’s numbers were better. I just looked him up. Not impressed. I think we would be doing Arizona a favor taking that contract. Shouldn’t give up much for him.
Not sure how I feel about Drew. He doesn’t seem to enjoy playing that much and I’d hate for him to mess up the Pirate’s clubhouse dynamic.
Like I said, his owner called him out for only being in the game for the money and not for the love and enjoyment. That is not what you want in your clubhouse.
I think the Dbacks owner should keep his mouth shut lol, why does he jump on his players like this?
He is worth a look for my Pirates, its a pure salary dump move, no way he can fetch a C+ prospect. 2 suspects is his trade value.
everyone misses the point with drew, his agent, scott boras, didnt want drew to rush back from this injury because he is going to be a free agent this offseason and doesnt want drew to hurt himself again. I dont agree with it, but if it werent a contract year, drew would have been up a long time ago. its just business, and its smart
Good guy, doesn’t hurt clubhouse chemistry. He does lack desire though. I think he’d help the buccos. I could see him posting a .740 OPS for the remainder of the season. And while he won’t set the world on fire, he will be around average and vastly help a team that has had SS put up an OPS in the 500s.
Fact of the matter is that most Red Sox fans thought Drew was a bum. Bringing his brother in is just one more negative stigma this team will have attached to it.
Isn’t Stephen Drew pretty much Mike Aviles at this point in his career?
significantly better defensively, which is huge when playing the most important defensive position on the field.
With Drew’s desire problems and salary, id rather have Aviles… Drew’s numbers are impressive, could have been an elite SS barring the injuries and attitude problems.
I’ve always wondered how the heck anyone but the player himself could possibly know if he has “desire” for the game or not.
… his owner came out and said it this year. Stated he had no desire to come back from injury and play for D-backs, more concerned with free agency, loyalty may be better word than desire.
Yeah I get that and this wsn’t meant to be against you, but unless the owner is a mind reader . . . I don’t know how people think they can look into peoples heads and know what they are thinking and how they feel. Some people just carry themselves differently than others.
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At this point? Boston might be as well off trying Iglesias at SS.
Aviles has now been fully exposed as a hacker at the plate. At least let Boston fans get a half season of acrobat style defense and see him in action paired with Pedroia before they move him somewhere.
Strange. When Aviles first came up with the Royals he was looking like he was going to be an excellent hitter for years.
Start of this season, like the 1st month he was ripping the league apart and that is when he put up most of those power numbers, but his flaws have been exposed since then.
The Sox and truly Aviles best position is as a super utility player LT. He now has learned to play some OF and can play 3b/ss/2b and only over the course of ST did he walk away with the starting SS job.
He really could be one of the better super utility players around.. 5 positions counting corner OF spots, but the team has to let Iglesias take over at SS, or find someone else 1st..
what is that conclusion based on, acouting? all of aviles’ metrics are better
The Tigers would move him to 2b. We need another lefty power bat.
He’s not a power bat.
Used to be powerful for SS but that’s not saying much… He used to hit a lot of triples prior to his injury and that right field gap at Comerica Park could be a godsend for him because he used to pull a ton of triples at Chase and as I recall the RF gap at Comerica is sizeably larger.
Sounds like the Sox are interested in being able to make Iglesias available in trade offers.
Interesting, makes me think that the negotiations for Upton fell apart. Maybe Towers used Upton as a bait and switch to try and dump Drew. I think a change of scenery could be good for Stephen Drew, so if the Pirates can get him for a few marginal prospects, I’m all for it. SS has been an abyss for the Bucs this year, Barmes is not going to turn his year around, and they need another bat – albeit a “potential” bat in the lineup. I would go as high as a Jeff Locke or even a Rudy Owens for him. No more.
I don’t understand how Drew fits in with the Tigers unless he’s swapped for Peralta. But I don’t understand the point of that, either. I know Drew has more potential and a better glove; but Peralta has at least been league-average as a hitter. I think both players have options for next year, with Drew’s being higher. Anyone?
Drew, when right is a better hitter than Peralta. When healthy, Drew provides occasional homers, above average amounts of trips and a lot of doubles. He’s also a lefty which adds diversity to an order.
Apparently 1 injury prone wasn’t enough for Boston. Now lets get his brother!
He’s only had the ONE injury.
You’re obviously not a dbacks fan
He can hit better than Clint Barmes? right???
Barmes gets a lot of flak for his awful batting line this season but he’s played an incredible shortstop and surprisingly seems to come up with big hits here and there. I think if he didn’t start out so abysmal and would take a walk every now and then, he would be a nice little player.
Drew > Barmes for sure.
as a diehard diamondback fan, i can’t believe the comments on this board. clearly, no one has ever watched stephen drew play. he is not injury prone at all, he slid into home and his cleat got caught, crazy stuff happens. he is an offensive force, he isn’t going to hit 25 HR’s, but he hits to all fields and is an XBH machine. he plays great defense, and when healthy and in rhythm, is a top 10 SS in the league.
as a diehard diamondback fan… How is Drew an offensive force? The year he hit 67 RBIs? or his carrer .260 BA?
batting in the two hole means that you’re not ever going to drive in lots of runs, but for a time a few years ago, drew would sometimes hit clean-up just because he always strokes doubles and triples into gaps. he is a smart baserunner, not overwhelmingly fast, but intelligent enough to pick his spots.
NO Red Sox! NO! NO! NO!
Why? We have pedro ciriaco. He hits well, great defense and range… he’s fast… inexpensive… what more do you want?
He hits well?!? Small sample size.
Hit hit well in ST, AAA and Majors… how much more sample size do you want?
really? he has a career .299 OBP in the MINORS. And even though he hit .301 in the minors, he still only had an OBP of .319. Also, his career minor league OPS is .656 and his minor league SLG percentage is .357. He’s definitley not proven.
He is having a better year this year… 301 / 318 / 406 / 724, more than anyone expected. He should have been on the opening day roster. He is a better option then Punto or picking up Drew’s salary.
In 35 at bats. A triple slash is meaningless in 35 AB’s. We’ll see if your still happy in 200 AB’s. Albert Pujols was hitting .190 on May 8th. Even poor MLB players can have extreme hot streaks. The good players are the ones who can consistently be good through their hot streaks and cold streaks over a long period of time.
Mike Aviles must be wondering why rumors are being floated regarding acquiring shortstops (HanRam now Drew). If I owned Aviles in a fantasy league I might be looking to move him.
Buster Olney is refuting the BoSox interest. Furthermore Towers would have to be insane to want to trade Drew NOW, when he’s just coming off an injury that clearly will affect him and Buster Posey is no precident because he doesn’t need the range of motion. It’s possible Drew will be injury free in that ankle for the rest of his career but it’s also not. No team is going to bank large on him until he’s played at least this year. First Upton now Drew, maybe he’ll just send the whole roster over to the Bay Area for the pickin…
I always thought that Drew would be a nice fit for the Pirates, but if the Marlins are dangling both Omar and Hanley, I say make them an offer they couldn’t refuse. At that point, you have your cleanup hitter as well as a guy who can lead off.
On a side note, too bad they didn’t tender a contract to Pedro Ciriaco in the offseason. He’s looking good in Boston. Perhaps LaRoche will join him shortly. I also noticed that Moss has put up some heavy numbers for the A’s this year. Maybe the Pirates should have a little more patience with their newcomers?
So many teams “drawing interest” but no team has spoken to the dbacks…..
Why don’t the Rays get involved? I could see them wanting someone like Drew, especially with their injuries and shotty defense this season.
I hope Towers will be Intelligent in the TDL and trade this guy for a 3B that can make the job done, Drew will be Useless in the next copuple of Seasons that´s my opinion