Jon Lester and Jacoby Ellsbury have been placed on revocable waivers, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports (on Twitter). Lester will earn $11.625MM next year and his contract includes a $13MM team option for 2014. Ellsbury will obtain a raise from $8.05MM when he goes to arbitration this offseason. He's on track to hit free agency following the 2013 season.
Teams routinely place players on waivers, even if they don't plan on trading them, so this is not an indication that the Red Sox intend to move Lester and Ellsbury. If they go unclaimed, the Red Sox will be able to complete a trade just as easily as they could have before the current waiver period began at the beginning of August.
If a team claims either Lester or Ellsbury, the Red Sox will have three choices. They can let the player (and his contract) go to the claiming team, they can complete a trade with the claiming team, or they can pull him back off of waivers. American League teams will have claiming priority on the Red Sox players.
Here’s a recap of which players have cleared waivers, plus a list of players who have been placed on revocable waivers.
At this point I’d love to see the entire 25 man roster get overhauled before September.
the baltimore orioles should claim one of those guys
I’m sure they’ll put a claim in on both of them, just like probably every other team, but Boston will just pull them back.
They cant claim both.
Where did you get that from? I’ve never heard that before.
Not saying you’re wrong, I’ve just never heard that and can’t find that rule referred to anywhere.
I’d say more than half of MLB teams would have legitimately zero interest in picking up the tab on both, or either.
They are both cheap, so I don’t believe that that is the case, but there is zero risk of them actually being “stuck” with them anyway because Boston isn’t likely to trade either, and certainly isn’t going to dump them on a waiver claim, so a bunch of those teams would put a claim in anyway.
The Red Sox turmoil continues!
When will Bobby Valentine go on waivers?
October 4th.
Sad but true
The Chiba Lotte Marines will claim him
rotfl
He is not the reason they are having a losing season, He is a good manager. The players are letting the organization down and stamping shame on it.
“He is a good manager”
I stopped reading after that.
I wish the Braves and Sox could trade managers. Might be best for both teams.
Bobby Valentine is not a good manager.
I used to defend Bobby, but here’s why I’m starting to agree w/you:
1)Not contesting that HR call last night was uncalled for.
2)I’m sick of him taking Miller out for Tazawa, whom should never be allowed to pitch with runners on.
3)I’m sick of the musical chair lineups.
4)I’m sick of him channeling his inner Grady Little.
he gone
White Sox claim Bobby Valentine off waivers and trade Hawk to the Red Sox. Bobby V back to the booth for White Sox broadcasting, Hawk to manage the Red Sox
Is that the White Sox announcer guy with the “Put it on the board, yes” nonsense? Because I don’t want him anywhere near me >:|
YESSSSSSS, that’s him.
Oh my god, I would rather listen to Michael Kay than that guy. I can’t STAND watching White Sox highlights because of him.
You do realize that before his gig with the Whitesox, he did color for the Red Sox..1979-81
I’m extremely happy that I wasn’t alive then.
he broadcast with Dick Stockton in the mid 70’s and was showed the door already for TV38 in NE.. Doubt ever see him in Boston again.. His going off didn’t play well after a couple of years.
Ellsbury to the Mariners for Franklin Gutierrez , Darren Ford and a PTBNL, The Mariners pick up Ellsburys salary in full. Jacoby is from the area, and i think he would do well in Seattle.
Wouldn’t mind getting our Tacoma boy back either with Lester. Say… Chance Ruffin & Hector Noesi with a PTBNL and we take on the entire salary.
This wouldn’t be close either.
I agree that he’d do well in Seattle. But he’s a Boras client, and is therefore absolutely, positively going into free agency after next season unless you give him an above-market deal right now. If you’re the Mariners, do you (a) want to pay him top dollar, or have to offer him a $12Mish deal to get draft picks, given his injury history, and/or (b) give up any sort of talent for, potentially, only one year of Ellsbury? Maybe…. but I doubt that’s something the Mariners will be deeply interested in right now.
That wouldn’t even be close.
Rangers give the Red Sox’s what they want for Both.
The Twins should claim EVERYONE!!
If the Twins claimed anyone making over $2.5 mil a year I would have a reaction that would make me have to change my underpants.
Why are the Red Sox the only team releasing their information publicly that their players are on waivers.? I’m sure many other players are on waivers too. Players like Jason Bay, Adam Dunn, Johnathon Sanchez, Ryan Howard and others are surely on waivers by this point, but we never hear about anything.
Cubs should try to claim Lester. they could use pitching but i cant see the red soxs just letting lester go for nothing. and i dont see the Red soxs wanting to take soriano.
They’d rather let him go for nothing than take on Soriano to move him. But he’s not going anywhere (especially not on a waiver claim), and he wont make it to the Cubs for them to have a chance to claim him anyway.
Exactly tho id love to see Lester in Cubbie Blue it wont be happening anytime soon. i Just love Lester’s story great, guy imo.
“If they go unclaimed, the Red Sox will be able to complete a trade just
as easily as they could have before the current waiver period began at
the beginning of August.”
I don’t think this is accurate. Players going to Boston must also clear waivers which will eliminate the good young, cheap guys. They won’t clear the waiver process.
I’m pretty sure prospects don’t need to clear waivers (in fact, I’m nearly certain), so it’s just other major leaguers that would be more difficult to trade for.
Cmon AA claim one of these fellas!!! Not that the Red sox would deal either in the division but a guy can dream.
If nobody claims any of these players, do the Sox have to trade them for players on another team that have also cleared waivers or can they trade for anyone on the other team?
How much does Ellsbury’s injury history hurt his trade value?
His injuries have generally come from freak accidents (specifically, other players falling on him and damaging him), so I don’t think teams would be scared away and consider him “injury-prone.”
They need an overhaul this offseason. A whole new regime. It starts with Bobby V. He’s done a solid job with what he was placed in to. He could not control much in terms of his coaching staff and injuries his players endured. I hate to see Bobby go, but it’s clear the players aren’t a fan and they need a manager to come in, hire his own staff and turn this clubhouse drama around. Certain players also need to go. Beckett is good every other year and quite frankly that isn’t good enough in Boston. Lackey is making too much money for his performance too. They need to decide what they’re doing with Ellsbury. If they can’t work out an extension move him this offseason to get more value than you can get at the trade deadline. Lastly, go out and get pitching! If they can dump Lackey and Beckett with eating half their salary, it’s still better than nothing. They need some serious change there. It’s more than a couple of moves, it’s going to take a lot of BOLD moves for them to turn this around.
this is just getting ridiculas now. why not put the whole team on waivers
Wish the braves could get lester. Give them some prospects and throw in 4 inning hanson. Not going to happen but still would make my day after another night of watching hanson wheel it up there at 88mph and another 5th inning of destruction
Pull back Lester, entertain offers for Ells
Yeah, good decision…but i don’t think trading gonzo is the answer unless you get someone good back…i think he is part of the future still…his power numbers are down but he is still 3rd in the AL in hits so…ya
I wish that The SF Giants could acquire Outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury. Ellsbury had a phenominal season one year ago and has been struck by Injurgies. Ellsbury is the type of player we need to go over the hump.
As for you, Red Soxs Fans, I think that Bobby V is gone and your next manager will be Former Catcher Jason Varitek. I think another name in the Red Soxs Hopper is Cardinals Bench Coach Jose Oquendo. Oquendo is a solid guy who needs an opportunity.
Yes, there’s an order, but it doesn’t mean the Orioles (or any other team) couldn’t put in claims for both players. If the O’s were the only team with claims, or if they had a worse record than any other team that put claims in, they could conceivably end up with both players.
Correct, but that doesn’t mean the Orioles can’t claim both players. (Chances are it’s not happening, but if they claim 1, it doesn’t mean they can’t take the next one if he wasn’t taken yet)
As davbee and MB923 pointed out, that doesn’t mean they couldn’t claim both, simply that they would have to hope both made it to them (and actually, every team has the opportunity to place a claim, it’s just that only the team with the worst record at the time of the claim is actually awarded the claim).
Actually, Marine Sox is right on. Unless the “player to be named” is someone like Hultzen or Walker, that’s not nearly enough to get a deal done. Same with your Ellsbury offer.
That doesn’t sound right, as that would create such a loopholes that would bypass teams with bad records from blocking trades by putting claims on guys.
Both Lester and Ellsbury said publicly they do not want to leave Boston. Lester went as far to say he hopes to retire with Boston.
I agree boston stays souping up their players based on their contracts
John Lester has been one of the top left handers in the game since ’08, and Ellsbury was 2nd in MVP voting last year, and both are still very cheap relative to their value; you aren’t getting them for retreads and middling prospects.
“FG” is a great defensive CF, but he doesn’t hit much (below league average for his career), and Boston has a top 50 (possibly top 25) prospect in CF in AA. And Ford is not, and has never been, a highly regarded prospect.
Same deal with Rufflin and Noesi; Rufflin isn’t even in their top 5 organizational prospects, and is a relief prospect (non-closing relief at that), and Noesi has negative value and is lucky to even have a job.
He is right. But no one ever really trades from current major league roster. But only theperson put on waivers has to clear. No one else
Mike, perhaps you should get a handle on the waiver rules before you start telling other people if they’re right or wrong.
If “we” make a trade it wont be for the junk you suggested.
See that doesn’t make sense to me. Let’s just go through a hypothetical, forgetting numbers and what not. Let’s just say for argument’s sake that the Rockies put Car-Go on waivers and the Giants want to claim him. The Dodgers can block that trade by claiming the waiver. But in order to get a deal done, all the Giants have to do is have the Rockies claim someone they put on waivers and they can bypass all of that and make a trade eventhough the Dodgers already blocked the claim? Just seems like a major loophole.
You stated previously that both Lester and Ellsbury *wanted* to leave Boston and in this post above, you post as if they do not? Which are you asking for??
Whatever.. Linking to anything other than bbreference and Mlb,com is verboten here.. For those new here and still ain’t figured that out…
go to WEEI and scroll through the last couple of weeks.. You will see where both have said it over again (Pedey and Lester) that they want to stay in Boston (along with Cody Ross) Young Grasshoppa….
I’m not angry at all, I just can’t believe you have such a distorted view of reality.