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Nationals Have Explored Trade Market For Catchers

By Steve Adams | January 5, 2016 at 9:51pm CDT

The Nationals have explored the trade market for help behind the plate, according to Jon Heyman (on Twitter). Per Heyman, the Nats are “involved on a number of fronts.”

Wilson Ramos and Jose Lobaton are slated to comprise the Nationals’ backstop contingent in 2015, but neither player performed anywhere near his previous peak level. Ramos, in particular, had a difficult season. Though the 28-year-old logged a career-best 504 plate appearances, his offensive output was far and away the worst it has been in any of his six big league campaigns. His 15 home runs notwithstanding, Ramos batted a mere .229/.258/.358 in those 504 PAs. While he’s never been known for his plate discipline, Ramos’ 4.2 percent walk rate was the lowest of his career, and his 20 percent strikeout rate was the highest he’s ever recorded. From a defensive standpoint, his ability to control the running game remained strong — he caught an outstanding 44 percent of attempted base-stealers — and he rated slightly below average (though far from disastrous) in terms of pitch-framing.

Lobaton’s season was worse than that of Ramos, but the 31-year-old also entered the season with lower expectations than those placed upon his teammate and countryman. Lobaton batted .199/.279/.294 in 144 plate appearances and caught a respectable eight of 31 base-stealers while grading out quite well in terms of framing. (Prior to 2015, he’d been roughly average, so it could be that the strong marks are merely a small-sample fluctuation behind the plate as opposed to a definitive sign of improvement.) Elsewhere on the 40-man roster, the Nats have young Pedro Severino (who made a brief big league cameo in 2015) and Spencer Kieboom. Both players need more time in the minors, however, as Severino’s bat comes with question marks (though his defensive tools are said to be advanced) and Kieboom spent the 2015 season at Class-A Advanced.

Another factor to consider when thinking about the Nationals’ catching situation is that Ramos is slated to hit the open market next winter and may not be in the team’s long-term plans. If the expectation is that Ramos signs elsewhere as a free agent — either because the Nationals are outbid by a rival team or because the team simply isn’t interested in re-signing him — then it perhaps makes some sense to proactively seek upgrades behind the plate this season. Ramos has historically done most of his damage against left-handed pitching, and the Nationals are known to be seeking lineup balance, so perhaps they’d be interested in finding a left-handed bat to pair with Ramos behind the plate. That, of course, is nothing more than speculation on my own part, and it’s worth pointing out that the reported-but-not-yet-finalized additions of Daniel Murphy (link) and Stephen Drew (link) will at least given the club some more left-handed options around the diamond once completed.

In spite of Ramos’ struggles getting on base last season, it should be noted that president of baseball operations/GM Mike Rizzo spoke very highly of Ramos back in early November in the midst of rumors connecting the Nationals to Matt Wieters (prior to Wieters’ acceptance of a qualifying offer from Baltimore). Rizzo conceded that Ramos had some struggles at the plate but showed good power and ranked No. 1 in the National League in terms of throwing out base-stealers, adding: “We like Ramos. He’s a guy that it would be difficult to find a replacement for.”

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  1. gorav114

    9 years ago

    The Orioles have a top catching prospect in Chance Sisco if the Nats scouts think he is ready for the majors that could probably be had for Gio.
    From Roto Authority: Splitting time between High-A and Double-A last season he hit .297 with 6 HR in 337 AB, though he has a good eye at the plate (55 K vs. 42 BB) and the potential is there for the power to continue to improve (think 12-15 right now).
    He’s 21 years old and everything I have read indicates his bat is ready and he could potentially be one of the best hitting catchers in baseball. The issue is his defense wasn’t ready last season but the word is it improved significantly by the end of the season and might be ready.

    Reply
    • JT19

      9 years ago

      I doubt that Nats and Orioles would be willing to deal a top pitcher/prospect to their cross town rivals. Even if his bat is ready, making the jump from High-A/Double AA is a big move (mainly because of the difference in level of pitching), a move that a contending team like the Nats might mot want to risk. And while I’m not aware of his defensive metrics, if defense is an issue he better be a good game caller/framer. If he’s not good at those two and if his defense doesn’t project as being at least average, he might project better as a 1B/DH/corner outfield, sapping any value he may have as a catcher. Again I don’t know his defensive metrics/numbers but my main point is that the Nats probably want a more sure thing at catcher than a prospect.

      Reply
      • Philliesfan4life

        9 years ago

        The angels did last year, they traded Kendrick for Heaney

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    • greatd

      9 years ago

      Look into the numbers a bit more he struggled a bit more in the higher levels. He’s not “close” to being ready.

      Reply
    • vannzee

      9 years ago

      Caleb Joseph from the Orioles may be the best catcher in baseball, other than Sisco who isn’t a starter.

      Reply
  2. Crewfan620

    9 years ago

    Jonathan Lucroy would be a nice target but he will likely cost a lot in terms of prospects. I doubt the Brewers will sell low on him but I know the Nats have the prospects to make a deal happen.

    Reply
    • hanks1hammer

      9 years ago

      The Brewers are sitting on a gold mine considering how light hitting the catcher position is.

      Reply
    • daveinmp

      9 years ago

      I don’t see the Nats having the prospects to land Lucroy. They are looking for close to major league corner infielders as major pieces and not B or C level guys either. Besides, they are in no rush to trade Lucroy because of the number of young pitchers that are currently or will be soon in Milwaukee.

      Reply
      • bdpecore

        9 years ago

        Giolito straight up for Lucroy works for me.

        Reply
  3. kingfelix34

    9 years ago

    Bryce Harper for mike zunino, the nats might be getting to much

    Reply
    • jaredlit27

      9 years ago

      Much smert
      Very baseball

      Reply
    • gorav114

      9 years ago

      The nats would have to at least include Scherzer if they want to dump Harper’s salary.

      Reply
      • kingfelix34

        9 years ago

        Yeah, and that way you won’t have anymore fights between Harper and papelbon

        Reply
  4. User 4245925809

    9 years ago

    Boston may have Ryan Hannigan available during ST, if Christian Vazquez shows he is fully recovered from TJ last April. Hannigan has a team friendly 3.7m deal this season, and club option for same next year.

    Possible they could move Vazquez himself if he’s healthy, but it would take a much larger haul.

    Reply
  5. bleacherbum

    9 years ago

    Derek Norris has become expendable with the padres acquiring bethancourt last month. The front office liked the production from the first half of the season from him but nagging injuries and a lot of playing time fatigued him causing his numbers to take a pretty big hit in the second half.

    I see hedges and bethancourt battling for the starting job and the Padres signing a journeyman backstop that will become available once teams tighten up rosters towards the end of spring training.

    Rizzo drafted Norris and traded him to Oakland in the Gio trade a few years ago so the organization liked him not too long ago, question is I’m not sure what the Padres would be seeking in return. Maybe Tanner Roark and a low end prospect.

    Reply
  6. Out of place Met fan

    9 years ago

    Derek Norris for Goodwin and Voth

    Reply
    • virginiascopist

      9 years ago

      I could see that trade happening.

      Reply
  7. bleacherbum

    9 years ago

    Padres have been awfully quiet since the bethancourt trade last month, I believe it was a precursor to Norris being dealt.

    He played better in a platoon role with Vogt and Jaso in 2014 in which he made the AL All star squad. Him and Ramos would be a nice 1-2 punch for WAS.

    Reply
  8. Sabean Wannabe

    9 years ago

    Would love for the Giants to utilize the Susac trade chip this off-season. He’s already 26 and the time he can be considered a good trade chip is running out. However, he is controllable for another 5 years.

    Susac + decent prospect(s)/bullpen pieces to Nationals
    Joe Ross to Miami
    Ozuna to Giants

    Maybe the Giants throw in another decent piece to Miami. Solves the Giants CF issue for 4 years (maybe Luscious Fox pans out and is ready by then).

    Reply
    • n8skywalker

      9 years ago

      Agreed on moving Susac. Isn’t Fox a SS ?

      Reply
      • Kapler's Coconut Oil

        9 years ago

        Fox is currently a SS but that won’t get you much with Crawford entrenched there. Not only that but the fan base has looked at Fox at CF since day 1 since he has the athleticism to play anywhere up the middle

        Reply
        • Sabean Wannabe

          9 years ago

          Agree with Nate. If Fox does become a viable MLBer, there will hopefully be options. Hopefully he can handle either SS or CF depending on Crawford’s status.

          Reply
  9. hanks1hammer

    9 years ago

    Right now in baseball only shortstop is hitting worse as a position. Something to keep in mind if you feel like complaining about your team catcher’s bat performance. The position is very thin and there isn’t a lot of help in the way, either

    According to MLB pipeline, the top rated catcher in the top 100, right now, is 59. The next top catcher comes in at 93 on the top 100 list and that’s it.

    So if your team catcher’s slash line is about as valuable as 250/310/420 go ahead and count your blessings. In the meantime, San Diego is busily hoarding a small army of catchers. I think someone looked into their crystal ball.

    Reply
  10. tuner49

    9 years ago

    Now that the Tigers have signed Salty, they could make Holaday available. Solid numbers with 4 more years of control.

    Reply
    • JT19

      9 years ago

      I think they project Holaday as their long term catcher. And Salty is a backup catcher/depth guy at best, his signing isn’t going to be pushing a catcher out the door (outside of designation for assignments or a team overpays for Holaday).

      Reply
      • vannzee

        9 years ago

        Holaday is not the future for the Tigers. James McCann is. Holaday was a backup in 2014 but McCann literally passed him last year and was the backup for the first half and started most every game down the stretch.

        Not only is Holaday not the started but they signed Salty to form a platoon and to back up McCann with Holaday sent back to Toledo most likely.

        Reply
  11. PhilliesFan012

    9 years ago

    Milwaukee – Aaron Barrett. Wilmer Difo, Spencer Kieboom

    Washington – Jonathan Lucroy

    Yes no? Only because milwaukees gonna have a high price for him and I feel that will match it

    Reply
    • brewersfan729 2

      9 years ago

      Is this serious? A 28 year old reliever, a better defending Scooter Gennett and a soon to be 25 year old catching prospect with average at best tools who hasn’t even gotten to AA? For one of the best catchers in the league on a bargain contract?

      What a garbage offer.

      Reply
    • baumer16

      9 years ago

      Ya I laughed at that when I saw it.

      Reply
    • Steve Adams

      9 years ago

      Barrett had Tommy John surgery in September. It’d still be way, way light even if he were healthy, but I wouldn’t look at him as a trade chip in any scenario right now.

      Reply
    • hanks1hammer

      9 years ago

      You are talking about a player who is one of the best defensive catchers in the game with a well above average bat. What you proposed wouldn’t keep the Brewers front office on the phone. From the Nationals the Brewers would ask for a package centered around Trea Turner or Giolito and then maybe Wilmer Difo. That would probably do it.

      Reply
      • Jamespfunk

        9 years ago

        You must be a Brewers fan if you believe Giolito or Turner would have to be included in a package for 2 years of a catcher who’s batting average dropped 37 points this past season. First off Rizzo would never trade either player especially Giolito(the top pitching prospect in the game). Lucroy could be had with a package that included guys like Difo, Fedde, and Robles. I don’t think Rizzo wants to trade Robles either. If the Nats sign or trade for a CF Taylor will be available.

        Reply
        • thecoffinnail

          9 years ago

          Agreed, anyone that thinks Giolito would be available for Lucroy is definitely a Brewers fan. He may have a very affordable contract and put up good numbers before the injury but he is not worth anyone in the top 10 prospects in all of baseball. As I have said before catchers age like milk and Lucroy is no different.

          Reply
        • Philliesfan4life

          9 years ago

          Giolito and Turner is way too much for Lucroy , Lucroy is on a very team friendly contract but that is way too much for him

          Reply
          • daveinmp

            9 years ago

            Lucroy was 4th in the NL MVP voting in 2014. He got off a very slow start in April last year then was injured and missed all of May. He hit .289/.347/.436 in the 2nd half.. You think you are going to find a player of that caliber who’s under an extreme team friendly deal for two more years without giving up top talent, then you are dreaming or don’t your baseball.

            A fair deal might be Rendon for Lucroy straight up and that’s only giving Rendon the benefit of the doubt for a year worse than Lucroy’s in 2015,

            Reply
          • Philliesfan4life

            9 years ago

            Then that would be another hole to fill for the nationals if they did trade Rendon, how about A.J Cole and another low level prospect for Lucroy

            Reply
      • daveinmp

        9 years ago

        Washington’s not a good match, period. Difo’s not as good as Gennett who’s only 2 years older. Besides Brewer system has many good 2B in it. Robles is an interesting prospect but you don’t give up one of the premier catchers in the game who’s also super affordable for a guy 4-5 years away and Brewers have better young OF prospect in Trent Clark.. Brewers system has a lot of good young arms so Fedde isn’t all that attractive either. Again Brewers won’t deal Lucroy unless they get back a prime 3B or 1B prospect at AA or higher.as the centerpiece of the deal.

        Want Martin Maldonado? He could be had. Might not even need a prospect. Clint Robinson might do.

        Reply
        • drewm

          9 years ago

          I would love to see Maldonado go to the Nats. I’d hate to lose him as a Brewer, but I’d love it if he had the opportunity to play full time. He’s a hard-nosed player and almost as good a pitch framer as Lucroy.

          Reply
  12. thecoffinnail

    9 years ago

    If the Yankees feel Torrens is going to come back 100% from his labrum surgery then they could make Sanchez available. He seems like he has been a prospect forever but he is only 22 and has made huge steps forward in the last year. He was the AFL MVP and did fairly well in AAA. He seems to have finally matured and is seen as being major league ready. He has to be one of the top catching prospects in the game lots of power potential for his position. With the Nationals having several young controllable quality starters between AAA and the majors they seem to match up well as trade partners.

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    • thecoffinnail

      9 years ago

      Also, I have read on this site a few weeks ago that the Cubs might make Montero available. The Nationals would be a good fit for him and I don’t think the Cubs would want too much for him since he has a decent amount left on his contract.

      Reply
      • Philliesfan4life

        9 years ago

        Maybe a low level pitching prospect

        Reply
  13. CubbyBlue

    9 years ago

    Miguel Montero for Storen and Papelbon? After this move, I would like to see the Cubs put Schwarber at catcher, Soler in Left, Heyward in Right, move Bryant to CF for a year or two. Sign Pedro Alvarez to play third. I will take the low average and defense for 27 homeruns out of the six hole. Would really lengthen that lineup. Could always use defensive replacements late in games. His numbers didn’t meet expectations of a third or fourth hitter, what Pittsburgh needed out of him, but as a sixth hitter they are solid numbers.

    Reply
    • Philliesfan4life

      9 years ago

      I think Schwarber belongs at catcher imo, because him playing left is hurting their defense but Maddon likes his bat in the line up.

      Reply
      • baseballrat

        9 years ago

        If the Cubs thought Schwarber could actually Catch, don’t you think they would’ve used him there in the playoffs last yr? Especially with the way Ross/Montero struggled in playoffs? There’s a reason why they didn’t.

        Reply
        • Philliesfan4life

          9 years ago

          True , but I guess for right now he’s in left field, that is why the national league needs to have the DH

          Reply
          • baseballrat

            9 years ago

            They could get a Haul for him if they traded him to AL team

            Reply
          • Philliesfan4life

            9 years ago

            Yea especially if an ace became available for a trade, Sonny Gray for example.

            Reply
            • baseballrat

              9 years ago

              They should really think about it and sell high. The more he plays in LF I think value drop b/c of Subpar play.

              Reply
          • Philliesfan4life

            9 years ago

            I think If Gray , Salazar or Corrasco became availble , I think Schwarber has to be the main piece

            Reply
  14. Rob66

    9 years ago

    Perhaps they go cheap and try Willin Rosario? Won’t cost a lot of money or prospects and should be good enough on offense.

    Reply
    • Philliesfan4life

      9 years ago

      he would fit well with the cubs, imo, then the cubs could trade Montero for some bullpen depth or pitching prospects.

      Reply
    • seamaholic 2

      9 years ago

      Really really bad catcher. I don’t think the Nats pitching staff would be too happy about that signing.

      Guy can hit though.

      Reply

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