Rangers GM Jon Daniels says the team could consider making a trade to improve its bullpen, MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan writes. “The bullpen is the area we’ll look at,” he says. “Other areas, it would have to be a pretty unique situation, because we feel good about our ballclub. You always look to do better, but realistically, what’s going to be out there and whether or not it fits, I don’t know.”
The Rangers’ 4.95 bullpen ERA this season ranks ahead of that of only the Reds, although the team’s current relief corps contains a number of pitchers in the midst of successful seasons, including Jake Diekman, Matt Bush, Tony Barnette and closer Sam Dyson. Daniels indicates he’s happy with that group. He also thinks Shawn Tolleson (whose awful start has been a key to the struggles of the bullpen as a whole) will pitch better than he has so far, and he looks forward to activating Keone Kela (elbow) and Tanner Scheppers (knee) from the disabled list at some point next month. As Sullivan points out, Justin De Fratus, Kyle Lohse, Luke Jackson and Jose Leclerc, all of them currently at Triple-A Round Rock, could also be candidates to help in the future. Daniels notes, though, that the team has relied heavily on its core group of relievers, and could use an extra arm to share the load.
It’s probably too early to speculate about who the Rangers might add. Daniels says that, as is typical at this early point in the year, only a few teams have determined that they’re clear sellers. Still, the Rangers’ potential pursuit of bullpen help will be worth watching as June turns into July.
Vizcaino from the Braves would be a good fit.
Probably.
You could probably make a case for Vizcaino going to every contender
Very true sir
Rangers should deal either one very good prospect for Chapman like Nick Williams or two top flight prospects like Gallo and another for Miller
Yankees do,not need a 3B/1B. Lohse can also start.
headly is a terrible hitting 3rd baseman and Tex is a free agent. Also Greg Bird had shoulder surgery.
Have you seen his numbers lately? He has the 2nd highest batting average over the past 30 days among all 3B (.326) and he’s 5th in OBP (.385)
An upgrade at 3B is needed. Chase Headley has two years left, and has turned into a singles hitter, no power, average defense. 3B depth in the lower levels is thin. Right now there is no potential long term solution at 3B.
Nick Williams was involved in the Hamels deal. He is in the Phillies organization.
Nick Williams is a Phillie
They already traded him for Hamels haha
Joey Gallo AND another prospect for Miller??? lol
Nick Williams got traded in the Cole Hamels deal
My fault … was thinking Bronson not Williams … I am sorry … and yes I am serious … this is a top notch chance for Texas to take home a title … why not go for it
Brinson … stupid autocorrect
You simply do not get a top 10 overall prospect in the game for a freaking relief pitcher. Idc how good that pitcher is. If you get both Betances and Miller for Gallo and an arm then it gets interesting.
Without Tolleson and Wilhelmsen in the equation the bullpen has a far more respectable 3.79 ERA. If they’d been as good as their career numbers indicated we’d have one of the best bullpens in baseball. Just goes to show how volatile relief pitchers are.
Vizcaino and Krol for Gallo. Done deal.
Would be nice, but sure that won’t happen. Even Brinson would be a plus.
People need to stop making these stupid trade scenarios that would never happen
Lol no way texas does that deal. Teheran, vizcaino, austin riley, tyrell jenkins, max fried and mike soroka for gallo and luis ortiz and josh morgan
Texas gets a #2, #3 starter in teheran to pair w hamels, bullpen help in vizcaino and jenkins, and a replacement for gallo in austin riley, and a young pitcher in soroka. Plus a wild card in fried.
Atlanta picks up a top 10 prospect in gallo, top 100 in ortiz, and an advanced hitter in morgan who can play ss/3b.
And no way that Atlanta does that deal either.
Nobody should enjoy the Trade RUMORS site, only true GM trades. People need to lighten up.
Hahaha this is the most ludicrous lop-sided trade I’ve seen…
Top 10 prospects dont come cheap. Atlanta wants gallo they’re paying a hefty price because texas is a contender w/ out gallo and bull pen help.
Also, they can find bull pen help from the padres (rodney), A’s (doolittle), rockies (mcghee), and other teams. They dont need to trade for vizcaino and give up top prospects to boot to get relief help. No team will offer 2 top 70 prospects, one in the top 10 of all of baseball w 6 years of service time for both players for teheran and vizcaino at 3 years each.
I guarantee they can get will smith and zach davies from the brewers without giving up gallo tate or ortiz.
They could target hellickson and a reliever from the phillies w out parting with gallo ortiz tate.
Individually teheran and vizcaino wont net a top 10 prospect. They may net guys 30 or more, but certainly not top 10.
Haha I love your logic, top ten prospects don’t come cheap but really good pitchers under team control for several years with reasonable contracts do? The more and more I read these threads the more I think that fans value prospects more than the actual players on their 40 man roster.
You’re right though they can find help other ways then giving up top prospects for relievers. But will those average to above average relievers be enough? Cause most of the contenders will be looking to upgrade there as well. So if you don’t pay it, someone you’ll be playing in October might
Will Smith and Davies and you’re not giving up your top 4? Thats laughable. They’re both under control until at least 2020, and playing really well. I’m sure the Brewers would be super excited to give both of those cost controlled guys up for middle of the road type prospects you’re offering. It amazes me the stuff people come up with on here.
1. Will Smith and Zach Davies could be had for josh morgan, yohander mendez, connor sadzeck, luke jackson, and andy ibanez. Which, again, they dont give up tate gallo or ortiz. Davies is sporting an fip of 4.19 and xfip.of 3.98. He does come with a lot of control, but for a rebuilding team like the brewers stock piling young controllable talent (5) for davies and smith, whos only played in 9 games this season, makes sense. But yeah hes pitching well in only 9 games thus far. Clearly you didnt look that up.
2. Teheran has sported an xfip pf 3.7 or worse the last 5 years. Thats #3 type production. Not 1 or 2. Its a great contract, but hes not an ace type pitcher and wont command a top tier return by himself. A good return, maybe a 30-50 prospect, 1 guy in the 60-80, 1 outside the top 100 range, an mlb ready pitcher, but certainly not a top 10 prospect and top 70.
3. Looking at past deals of top prospects. Hamels (who also has a great contract for an ace) commanded 3 top prospects outside the top 50. Thompson at 51, williams at 55, alfaro at 59 according to mlb.com. yet somehow teheran and vizcaino are worth more in gallo and ortiz then hamels and diekman? Yeah, right.
Look at the jeff samardja trade. 2 years of samardja, 1 year of hammels for addison russel and mckinney. who wasnt even ranked as a top prospect at the time. Both samardja and hammel had good seasons, better xfip numbers than teheran, and it was an overpay to trade russel who was #5. But somehow gallo and ortiz isnt enough for teheran and vizacaino and the rest. Hahahhahahaha next time look stuff up before you embarass yourself baumer.
Braves fans are ridiculous
1. Fangraphs had Will Smith rated as the 8th best reliever in baseball before the season started. He got hurt and he’s back now dealing, granted its only been a few innings coming back from his injury but his fangraphs rating shows you how good he is. So its not like he’s just been good for 9 games. Clearly you didn’t look up any stat besides this year. So back to you, do some research before you embarrass yourself. He would get close to what Giles got, probably not as much but in the ball park. In one of these chats on this site a question was asked what would the Twins have to give up in order to get Smith and one of the writers said the Brewers would probably ask for Berrios. Which even I thought was a little crazy but he is a dominant left handed reliever and signed through 2020. Your package in this deal wouldn’t be enough to get Smith just by himself.
None of the prospects in your deal are impact prospects and Davies is pitching really well so there is zero reason to give him up especially if we have him for 6 years for some mid level prospects that aren’t impact guys. That makes almost zero sense from the Milwaukee side. He could be a #3 type starter at some point at a cost of nothing, you don’t give that up for the prospects you’re offering. Especially a small market team.
2. I agree with your analysis of Teheran, he’s a 3 maybe a 2 at times. But you’re forgetting the most important part of trades……….supply and demand. And right now Teheran is really the only pitcher out there. Atlanta holds all the chips right now, they don’t have to deal him. Its not like his contract is up after this year. So now you’re going against all these other teams, Bosox, Astros, Orioles etc for one impact pitcher. Atlanta can easily say we want Gallo or no deal. And the Rangers might say no but if I were the Braves I would for sure ask for him. So unless Gray is made available or someone else randomly comes available that we don’t know about at this point Atlanta is control of this situation. So you wasted all your damn time putting together stats without even knowing the market. Hahahaha remind me never to do a business deal with you,
3. Again Supply and Demand. Not a business guy are ya bigh? And I never said Gallo and Ortiz wasn’t enough. All I said was if I were the Braves I would definitely want Gallo.
Prospect ranking don’t really matter. Peraza was a top 25 prospect last year and look how quick he dropped. Keep them 200+ K’s per year. He’ll hit the occasional homer and strikeout a bunch of times. You keep saying 3 years of a proven MLB player can’t get 6 years of a prospect that hasn’t done anything, but strikeout and hit homers. We both know (well hopefully) you can get away with stuff in AAA that you can’t get away with at the bigs. He’ll get exposed at the MLB level. He’ll run into the occasional homer, but that’s it. To say that 3 years of a young proven big league player can’t get 6 years of a unproven, swing and miss, strikeout 200+ times a year prospect that has a good chance of flaming out is ridiculous. Keep them K’s and keeo spewing out that nonsense
Haha baumer you’re exactly right. Supposedly good pitchers under team control come cheap, but top ten prospects that will most likely need a position change from 3rd base and that strikeout 200+ times a year don’t come cheap. Just more nonsense this guy spews out
The one thing you are to taking into consideration is that it is a sellers market. You use the Hamels trade as a comp but the price of pitching has gone way up since then. Considering what lesser #3’s like Kennedy got, what do you think Terhan could command on the open market. With all of the top talent that would have been available this off season already locked up the only way to get upgrades for next year is via trade. The Braves know this, which is why the have said they may just build around him. I personally don’t believe that and think it is just the normal posturing that teams do.
1. Did you even look at his splits? No you did not. At either of them. LOL keep embarassing yourself baumer. Its entertaining
2015 will smith gave up .250/.330/.455 against lefties and away from home had .255/.326/.437
2014 will smith opposite against righties .295/.391/.481
Home .254/.313/.441 away .239/.357/.364. That is a far cry away from dominant. His 2014 season he was a lefty specialist given how bad righties demloished him in 180 chances and 2015 lefties got the best of him. But yeah clearly a dominant reliever! LOL not when one side his hitting .295 in 14 and .255 in 2015. Thank the baseball gods you arent putting together a team if thats dominant to you. Hes good, but not great/elite. Want great/elite see millers splits.
Zach Davies, same issues good at home, awful away. Hes only 23 and comes with control.
Yeah the guys i mentioned for a rebuilding club for a specialty reliever in will smith who can only pitch to one side of the plate a season it seems and a young 23 year old pitcher isnt worth 5 prospects with good upside and ready to contribute within 2 years. They need to rebuild. You dont half effort a rebuild. Lucroy smith braun carter villar hill trade for prospects that are ready 2 years or less. Adding davies gets more prospects in the deal. No way will smith commands a good haul by himself. 1 or 2 prospects. Him and davies gets 5 minimum.
LOL 3 years of a proven player…..who is under team control for 1.5 seasons. His history has nothing to do with how long he is under control. He could be the best catcher 10 years in a row with an average of .300 each year and 1.5 years doesnt equate to 6 years of a guy you expect to contribute next year.
Hahah let me break this down for you since you’re having difficulty. Smiths WAR last year for relief pitchers was 21st. Do you know who’s was 18th. Kimbrel. Do you know what Kimbrel was traded for, 2 top 50 prospects and THEN some!!! And Kimbrel is making roughly 37 million until 2018, while Smith is making probably not even 10 million through 2019. So you’re not only getting Smith for a significant amount less of money but also getting him for a longer time frame.
So even if you say Smith doesn’t have the history of Kimbrel which he doesn’t he’s signed for longer and a whole lot cheaper. So even going on the “light” side in a trade the Brewers should be asking for 1 top 50 prospect for Smith. So really for Smith alone the Rangers should be giving up Tate.
For the record
2015 kimbrel posted .194/.287/.343 against lefties and .176/.239/.269 against righties
Home he posted .170/.263/.314 and away he posted .204/.264/.296. So he actually was equally dominant away from petco in 2015.
Kimbrel in 2014 was even more dominate (R) .144/.244/.181 and (L) .133/.239/.198 and home he had .126/.208/.144 and away .155/.282/.245
Will Smith doesn’t even come close to posting what kimbrel did in terms of avg/obp/slg. I guess it’s nice that their WARs are similar, but the actual numbers vs. batters isn’t close what so ever.
Will Smith is cheaper through arb, but not worth a top 50 prospect.
Also, Kimbrel brought back Manuel Margot, infielders Javier Guerra and Carlos Asuaje, and left-hander Logan Allen. Also, what list are you using to say two top 50 prospect? Because MLB.com ranks Margot #40 and Guerrera #52 and baseball american has guerrera at #52 and Margot at #56.
baseballamerica.com/minors/top-100-prospects/#txMd…
m.mlb.com/prospects/2016/?list=prospects
So I am not seeing the Kimbrel brought back 2 top 50 prospects regarding two lists. He either brought back 1 top 50 or 0 top 50, but 2 top 100 in either case.
Also, if you look at Ken Giles, which is more of a comparable situation to Will Smith given Ken Giles came with 5 years of team control
spotrac.com/mlb/houston-astros/ken-giles/
2014 Ken Giles posted
.145 .208 .227 against lefties
.174 .228 .233 against righties
.173 .238 .274 at home
.150 .202 .190 away
2015 Ken Giles posted
.222 .300 .274 against lefties
.213 .275 .289 against righties
.220 .297 .307 at home
.213 .270 .245 away
fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=12910&…
Ken Giles was acquired for Velasquez, Oberholtzer, Eshelman, Mark Appel, and Harold Arauz. Appel ranks #63 on mlb and doesn’t rank on baseball america in 2016, Eschelmen doesn’t rank among their top 30 prospects nor does Harold Arauz, and Velasquez doesnt rank in 2015 or 2016 on either list 9MLB or BA)
So apparently all the Phillies got was 1 top 100 prospect, 2 MLB ready pitchers, and 2 prospects. Appel was a 2015 top 50 prospect but considering the giles trade happened after 2015 appel falling out of the top 50 in rankings for the 2016 list doesn’t make him a top 50 prospect at the time of the trade.
Again, I am not sure how you think Will Smith is worth 1 top 100 prospect when Ken Giles who posted better stats during 2014 and 2015 then Will Smith didn’t command a top 50 prospect.
No way Teheran is worth Gallo
Yeah he is.
At this point Teheran is more valuable.
The Braves have the upper hand as they have less pressure to make a deal. Gallo hasn’t established himself in the majors and the Braves have good reason to speculate that he will be Adam Dunn 2.0 if he does develop because of his alarming strikeout numbers.
It entirely depends on if Daniels thinks this is a year to go all in, though knowing the Braves they probably would rather have Chi Chi anyways.
Adam Dunn was a solid big league slugger that finished his 14 year career (which could have lasted longer if he wanted it to) with 462 big league home runs. Gallo would be LUCKY to be Adam Dunn 2.0.
Adam Dunn’s bat with average defense at 3rd, is a lot more valuable than Teheran will ever be.
If the Braves really believe Gallo’s bat is comparable to Dunn, they would do that trade in a second.
Of course you would say that you’re a braves fan, I think most Rangers fans would agree with me and say ya can keep Teheran
Hate to inform you pitching are always going to be more value then hitting . Ask anyone who has ever played , coached, managed, or upper managed any baseball team so All you Braves haters need to check your self . Teams will alway over pay for pitching ex specially good to great pitching and at end of day player ,coaches , managers , and front offices what the know then the unknown . Rather you all like it Tehran is the best starting pitcher on market .when you look at his pitching history ,( please don’t bring up he didn’t throw 97 to 100 . He has plenty of power if he need it .just look at his strike out to walk ratio) .The fact he is only 25 years and rather you like this fact or not he is under value team friendly contract for 4 more years , and if he was on the open market he would be best pitcher in next season off seasons . And don’t bring up Fernandez or gray be neither are going to be trade in near future no matter how much you want them to be. And besides once again he has a better strikeout to walk ratio then them. So once again please stop with nonsense that Tehran is not worth his true value he is top of rotation pitcher and and hate inform ranger fans he even got better so/Bb % then Darvich take time and look , you will see it
Do you speak English
Pitchers are not always going to be more valuable than hitters. First, look at overall contract values to get an idea of why that statement in general is false.
Next, look at many of the recent trades. Teams are far more willing to deal pitching prospects than they are their hitting prospects. Hitters are a safer bet going forward because so many pitchers suffer injuries.
Through their careers, Darvish actually has a better K/BB than Teheran. If you mean this year, then it’s just disingenuous to try and draw any sort comparisons like that from a guy who just came back from TJS.
Who has average defense? Gallo? He does not have average defense for a third basemen. He more than likely has average first base defense. I hope you were being sarcastic. If you were then hahaha
Exactly so if he’s so valuable be can stay with the braves lol
Great pitching like the smart dbacks acquired in Miller right
If Gallo is so valuable, all those K’s can stay with the Rangers. Everyone is happy!
Here goes another over value like Leony’s Martin situation. No way you’d get that much.
Gallo won’t be traded, additionally no one will trade a top 10 prospect for a reliever…
I wanted to argue with Mark Appel, but was a Top pick, but never a Top 10 prospect.
once they get Kella back and tolleson gets back to 2015 form they will have a good bullpen!
The should go after chapman…
Chapman for Gallo makes so much sense and add in McCann plus a Nova or Pineda because Texas can use a catcher and starter if they are going to make a run and bring back Profar and Nick Williams?
I wonder how many people will propose the Rangers trade Nick Williams who is not with the Rangers. I hope all these aren’t Ranger fans.
Surprised they’re not also offering Jorge Alfaro Jake Thompson and Jared Eichkoff
The Yankees wouldn’t include McCann and nova or Pineda for one prospect. People need to stop making horrible trades b
The Rangers are the Ideal trading partner for Cashman not the Cubs. Profar and Gallo are blocked at the Major League level, and the Rangers have multiple top IF and OF prospects without those two. Profar can play all over the infield, so Girardi should have no problem finding him playing time. You have to add more, but Cashman has the pieces to get a blockbuster deal done.
Profar is currently not blocked at the major league level. Due to Prince’s struggles, he has been filling in a first every so often, he filled in at third when Beltre was injured and has been handling DH to give Moreland rest. Add that to him playing SS and 2B to give Elvis and Odor rest every so often and his ability to play OF shows that at least for now he is not blocked at the major league level.
Moreland is a free agent at the end of the season and I suspect Gallo is our starting 1B at some point next season. Gallo has had defensive problems at 3rd and his defense and bat would play just fine at 1B. He has already started playing some 1B in the minors this season to probably prepare him for that.
Half a year of Chapmen for 6 years of Gallo… That makes no sense. None…
What if half a year of Chapman is better than 6 years of Gallo?
Highly unlikely considering his prospect rank and katoh projections.
Jon Daniels isn’t going to trade Gallo for any rental.
Just based on comps, Chapman wasn’t worth that much in the beginning of the season…
That has zero effect value wise. What if viz loses his pitching arm tomorrow?
Zach Wheeler was traded for half a year of Carlos Beltran.
If they feel they’re one piece away, I wouldn’t discount anything.
Take out Williams and replace with Dillon Tate!
Boooo yaaaaaa
Get it done and go Texas!
Chapman for Gallo. Get it done, Cash!
Did y’all trade a top 10 prospect for more time then we would have him? Then why the hell do you think we would?
If the Ranger’s had won all the games Tolleson blew the save on the Rangers would have the best record in baseball. He blew 4 this year in 15 chances. Blew 2 last year in 37.
Daniels is very calculating and smart. My guess is that he’s made this statement, to see who makes offers. If he gets blown away by one, he deals, otherwise, he has 6 weeks to see if guys return to form, and sits and does nothing. As someone who watches a lot of Rangers games, the BP isn’t bad if you throw out Tolleson and Wilhemson’s early numbers. Overuse, especially in Texas heat, is probably what he’s guarding against. I think a smaller deal, to add a couple fresher arms that haven’t been taxed as much, could be in play. Just my 2 cents.
There are a lot of teams looking for relief help and few for sure sellers at this point. That works more in the favor of the sellers so it would be more of which buyer is willing to overpay right now for a reliever. Unless it’s a very average reliever. Most teams that need relief help will probably wait a bit to see who else becomes available
Gallo, Tate and 2 mid level prospects for Lucroy and Will Smith. The rangers need catching help and relief help thats what the brewers have but its going to cost any team 1 top 30 prospect and 1 top 100 prospect to get Lucroy if not more. Will Smith is one of the best left handed relivers available and is only 26 with plenty of cheap years of control left. This trade would be great for both teams.
Depends who your other mid level prospects are but that seems light for the Brewers. Lucroy should get Gallo and Tate by himself. Then Smith, he’s signed until 2020 for peanuts and is dominating. I think they would need about what the Phils got for Giles, maybe a little less. I also think if the Rangers wanted Lucroy that bad they would have traded for him already. That ship has sailed
Lol funny man
What’s funny?
Lucroy does not get Gallo and rate by himself.
Sorry to rain on your parade but Lucroy is not worth a top ten prospect and the number 4 overall pick from 2015. He could probably fetch Brinson and a couple upper level prospects, like Josh Morgan or Ryan Cordell.
He should easily get that by himself. Keith Law said yesterday the Yankees will ask for Gallo for Miller and that would be a fair trade he said, even though he thought the Rangers wouldn’t do it. And thats for one of the best relievers in the game, imagine what the Brewers would want for the arguably the best catcher in the game who’s signed for nothing for the next year and a half? Ya so Gallo would get the conversation started but it would have to be significantly more than that.
Sorry to rain on your prospect parade but the best catcher in baseball right now who’s signed for the next year and a half for under 10 mill certainly deserves someone in the elite tier like Gallo.
7Whatever you’re doped up on id quit it man. You dont know what youre talking about. 6 years of gallo doesnt equate year and a half of lucroy. Not when options like Derek Norris who has picked things up lately in june, has 2 and a half years, and would cost 1/4 to 1/3 of lucroy in terms of compensation. The phillies could part with cameron rupp and his 4 years of control for 1/2 the price of lucroy at best, or call up the diamondbacks about wellington castillo whos also got a year and a half control and would cost less than lucroy.
Also, miller has 2.5 more years of control. Lucroy 1.5. 2.5 > 1.5. If lucroy had 2.5 years of control yeah youd probably see gallo for lucroy.
Sorry to crush your dream world, but wont happen. Thanks for the laughs though.
Hahahah you are lost. I forgot all about how good Joey Gallo is sorry. He was so good in the Majors last year, and this year he’s really killing it too in the majors so he’ll definitely be better than the best catcher in baseball right now. I’m having a hard time finding his stats for this year in the majors though maybe you could help me out. And I mean he is a top prospect and those guys never fail, If you’re top ten you’re guaranteed to be an all-star the question is just when and how many. My bad dude for saying the best catcher in baseball right now signed for a ridiculous deal for the next year in and a half would even be considered for someone with the status of Joey Gallo. Here’s a question for you to ponder, would you trade Joey Gallo for Mike Trout if the Angels promised to pay half his remaining salary and added a high end relief pitcher to the deal?
Quit acting like Gallo is the second coming of Ted Williams. You can keep him and his 200+ strikeouts a year. If anyone over values prospects, it’s Ranger fans. I remember Ranger fans saying the same thing about Mike Olt 4 or 5 years ago. Remember Leony’s Martin was supposed to be the Rangers everyday CF. Ranger fans didn’t want to trade him for nothing. You we’re probably one of them. Quit playing yourself and acting like Gallo is more than he is. Could he become a good player? Yes. Better chance of him flaming out like Mike Olt. Prospect ranking don’t matter. He’ll get exposed when he hits the bigs. Besides from his 6 HR’s he didn’t do anything, but strikeout with his taste of the bigs last year. When the league see him more, they’ll expose him! Keep them K’s
Dude big I was just thinking. The best move for the Rangers right now would be to lock Gallo up to like a 10 year deal for 200 million. Thinking about it by that time Gallo will have multiple player of the year awards and the going rate will probably like 300-400 mill for superstars which its obvious he is so in the long run you’re saving almost 200 mill. I can’t honestly think of 1 reason why the Rangers wouldn’t do that deal.
Chris Davis struck out 208 times, 5.6 fWAR
Kris Bryant struck out 199 times, 6.5fWAR
Bryant had better contact skills than Gallo. For you to say Gallo is the caliber of a Bryant is crazy. Aren’t you a Cubs fan? Nobody can be compared to your beloved Cubbies. Bryant has always had better contact skills. Just look how much better he has been this year. His average has shocked me. Can you seriously sit here and tell me that Gallo is Bryant with a straight face lol. I’m pretty sure if this was 5 years back, you would be saying the same about Mike Olt. What happened with him? Flamed out!
I’m not saying that Gallo has no place on a MLB roster or isn’t going to make one. I’m saying for this guy to quit holding him in high regards like he is the second coming to Ted Williams. Acting like they would need a kings ransom to trade him lol. The day Gallo becomes Bryant or Davis, come back and let me know buddy
Lol its really sad baumer had to create bravobravo account JUST to get people to support him. Or could just be onset bipolar/skitzophrenia or something.
Mike olt flamed out because he developed issues with his eyes. Hahahhahahahhahahaha wow really clever remark saying a guy flamed out, but somehow make it seem like he sucked rather then eye issues plagued him. Once your eyes start giving you trouble hard to see a ball to hit. But baumer/bravo couldnt hit the broad side of a barn with 20/20 vision 3 ft away if they tried. Martin on the other hand had attitude issues and now that hes gone and happy he is posting a wRC+ of 116 for seattle this year. But yeah, he sucked too despite putting up a decent season in seattle thus far.
Lol always funny seeing people like baumer and bravo be low IQ junkies on the internet. Thanks for the laughs. Maybe get some meds for that disorder?
Hahahahhaha awwww back tracking now lil buddy? Lol as chester pointed out bryant and davis posted superb wars as well as high strike out rates…..and looking back it happens more than you think.
2004 Dunn had 5.3 WAR and 195 strike outs.
2015- JD martinez had 178 strike oits 5 WAR.
2014- trout had 184 strike outs 7.9 WAR
2013- mike napoli had 189 and 4.1 WAR
2011- austin jackson had 181 and 4.8 WAR
Starting to see a trend here LOL. bravo indeed bravo.
Hahah love that your back bigh, or should I say Chester?
My favorite part of your argument is that you think Mike Olt is the only high prospect that failed miserably so you try to disprove it. Hahaha. You totally missed the point. Ahh awesome! Keep posting please!! Anyway, one more trade offer before I go to bed. Gallo for Mike Trout, Garret Richards and one high end reliever. I’m torn right now, I think it’s 50/50. I’ll think about it and let you know in the morning.
Lol trout has what 4-5 more years of control? Not sure why trout half his salary and a reliever for gallo is even a serious question. You seem to be missing the team control thing. Let me use caps.
LUCROY HAS 1.5 YEARS OF CONTROL. Considering theyre already a playoff team without him and other catching options are available for 1. Longer control and/or 2. Cheaper compensation but offer a decent bat no way gallo goes for lucroy. Norris rupp and castillo offer between a .240 and .270 type bat for guys not named gallo brinson tate ortiz seems pretty obvious to get the catcher and not give those guys up.
I can help you out by saying Mooreland is a free agent and beltre is near 40 but since you were wondering gallo is hitting .270/.417/.626 with only 45 strike outs and 34 BB at AAA. Avg is low but obp and slg seem “decent”
Oh geeze gallo isnt helping a playoff contender so they dont waste service time on him? Say it aint so baumer. They should definitely call him up and accumilate service time….tell me again why you arent a GM? Oh, thats pretty obvious. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Cant find stats in the majors this year…….Lol god thats hysterical baumer. Waste service time instead of letting him play every day HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
You dont think a lot of things through or look things up huh baumer? Glad im here to help you man.
Cause Gallo is an All Star already thats why it’s a serious question!! I mean why would the Brewers even think the best catcher in baseball could even compare to a dude who’s hitting “decent” in AAA. I mean AAA and the big leagues is the same thing so all his stats would easily translate over and he would obviously hit a lot better in the big leagues than in AAA. I’m going to let you in on a little secret though bigh, AAA is actually harder than the majors so when Gallo goes to the majors it will actually be easier for him so he will probably hit better than “decent.” He was so good in the majors last year too you saw it.
I mean 6 years of major league All Star is what you’re getting in a guy who’s hitting “decent” in AAA. How stupid of me. Hahahah. I’m really starting to think you’re just trolling me.
The best trade partner for Yanks are Texas, Cubs, Nats, and maybe Dodgers. Cash has to be creative and get big prospects back. He also has to Guatemala interest in moving guys like Headley, Gardner, McCann, Beltran, and Elsbury. There is always a market when you kick in money and thst team is going for it.
The prospects that have to come back are Gallo, Profar, Tate, Ian Happ, Jorge Soler, McKinney, Robles, Fedde.
The Yankees are in driver seat abs control the market. It’s actually nice to see for once.
Jorge Soler is not a prospect and I wouldn’t exactly call Profar a prospect either.
Kyle Schwarber
Rangers there’s a Awesome lefty out there and hungry to get back in the Bigs Sean Burnett he’s 100% healthy and been pretty much lights out please just give him a shot can get both righties and lefties out
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Well I tried to type a “(plus) one” there to show I agreed with you but it didn’t work lol. But yeah, I agree.
“It’s probably too early to speculate about who the Rangers might add.”
This is a joke, right? This is the same site where we get to speculate about whether a 16 year old Cuban will be a better fit for the Braves or the Dodgers in 2023. Don’t get me wrong, it is very enjoyable, but this site is all about early speculation.
You can speculate, but nobody knows for certain who’s available and who isn’t
Well of course, but then again that is why this site is called MLB Trade Rumors and not MLB Trade Facts. Trade speculation is the whole reason I come here, because all the rest you can pretty much get in a few minutes on MLB’s transaction page (although without the poignant writing of the MLBTR staff). 😉
The Rangers will not trade Gallo for Chapman. Zero chance. Heck they might not even trade him for Miller others.
News flash
I don’t think Yanks would trade Miller straight up for Gallo
He’s not exactly lighting it up in AAA and he is a big swing and miss all or nothing guy that plays to the shift and is very streaky. Ive seen comps comparing him to Mark Reynolds which I think is not flattering especially when trading a talent like Miller who is under a great contract and is the ultimate team mate.
Plus he is blocked in Texas unless they move him to first which it doesn’t seem like they have done yet.
The point is the Yanks have all the time in the world and the price will only go up as teams think they are bullpen arm away from being serious contender this year.
He has a 1.043 OPS in AAA this year while cutting down on his strikeouts significantly compared to his rate last year in AAA. How is that not lighting it up?
He’s also walking at like a 20% rate which is ridiculous. Although I agree his BA isn’t great his OBP is and obviously his power is ridiculously and he obviously isn’t done developing his game by any means yet.
If the Rangers trade Gallo it would be a surprise to me, Moreland if ur unaware will be a free agent after this year and Gallo is the logical choice to take over 1B duties once when he departs!!! As for who Texas would consider trading obviously depends on the deal but I will say that I fill its highly unlikely that they Trade Dillon Tate barely a year after drafting him 4th overall, Luis Ortis however is a more likely candidate to be traded because his ceiling is lower!!!
The problem with your analysis is that the people you are trading with are not going to want the lower ceiling guys. Most guys do not EVER hit their ceilings. That is the whole point of trading for prospects is by giving up someone that is good now and hoping that the prospects you get reach those ceilings. You wouldn’t trade a current big leaguer for a prospect with a ceiling similar to or lower than the guy you are trading. That makes no sense. You trade for a guy with a higher ceiling in the gamble that down the road he turns into a better player than the guy you are giving up. Like most gambles, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t.
I would also add that Lulu (Luis Ortiz) has the higher trade value right now and maybe even a higher ceiling. Ortiz, Tate, and Matuella are the 3 Rangers who have been consistently named as potential number 2s (by people who refuse to call someone a potential number 1) and Lulu has been the one to consistently flash his potential and mix it with great production so far.
As far as Gallo is concerned, with the strides he has made this season and continues to show he can make with time to adjust at every level so far, I think it would take a the Rangers going after a big name (Sale, Fernandez) for them to include him in a trade. Obviously in those circumstances, it would take him, Brinson, Tate, Mendez, and then some.
I’m so glad u enlighten me on how a trade works, I might Not have ever Learned without ur help!!! HAHA If u Truly knew anything about the Rangers prospects u would know that when people ask for the likes of a Joey Gallo or a Dillon Tate for say half a year of Chapman (who is coming off Suspension) its absolutely ridiculous, Luis Ortiz is the absolute Best the Yankees could hope to get in that for instance!!! The Yanks could get more if they ATE some of Millers contract and threw in a lesser commodity to go along with the Miller, much as the Phillies did last year with Cole Hamels.
Laughing at all these non-Ranger fans trade scenarios. Here is one from a Rangers fan: 6 Boomstick hot dogs for every other team’s best prospects. The Boomsticks might even come unchewed.
I know this will never happen but there is all way one block buster trade year trading dead line so how about trade between yankees , Rangers, Braves And Brewers
Rangers get
1b carter
C lucroy
Sp nova
Rp Johnson
Rp miller
Of Markakis
If refsnyder
Prospects
Sp Ellis
Sp banueles
12 million to cover some of. Markakis contract
Yankees get
Of Braun
Rp vizcaino
Lp smith
Sp Tehran
Lp Krol
3b Olivera
Prospects
Albies
C Trevino
Brewers get
1b morehead
Sp holland
2b profar
Sp Blair
Prospects
Sp Tate
Sp Finley
3b Ruiz
C morales
Rv lien
Rp Ramirez
Braves get
3b headley
Rp graham
Sp garza
Prospects
3b Gallo
Of deshields
Of judge
C Sanchez
Lp clarkin
Ss/3b gatewood
Sp Jackson
2b van Hoosier
2 PTBNL ( spears and Rutherford )
Comp money form yankees
Do you think that a four team trade with that many moving parts has EVER been done before?
I know you prefaced your proposal by saying”you know this will never happen” but why post it? MLB front offices would not even remotely contemplate a trade like that no matter how logical you think it is or how much time you invested in coming up with the idea.
It is similar to saying”I wish there was no evil in the world”. Me saying it doesn’t make it so.
Hell this is even more amusing than the CLE-ATL trade. But I think Boston and LAA feel left out.
I seriously can’t tell if this guy is a troll at this point.
It looks like the trades probably take some thought to construct, but they are just so unrealistic that it seems like it has to be a joke. Add that to the fact that he posts the trades in every thread even after they keep getting deleted.
Oh you wait, Coppy and Cash will come calling. You realize how many up and coming GMs are in here? Hahaha
Haha for real!
Every makes a great proposal and even complains about most others.
and Brewers also get international money from Rangers
As brave get international money from the Yankees
Y would the Rangers sell the farm for just ONE season when there set up to win Now and for several seasons to come?!? Makes No sense for Texas long term!!!
That guy always puts out these ridiculous trade scenarios that will never happen. Just be entertained by it and laugh
No I don’t…
*i know what you meant
Let alone trade pieces of the major league roster of a 1st place team.
First of like said up top this would happen , but there have been trade in history involved 4 teams . And there been trades that have involved trade that involved 20 to 30 players in sports history . Just because there hasn’t been a trade involved 4 teams with this many trades will never happen you can never say that . There is all ways the first time. So for all thing in troll , well all have
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Huuuuuuuuuuuuh?
The issue with a 4 team 20-30 player trade isn’t the past history. The issue is 4 teams agreeing they’re getting more value than they’re giving. That’s pretty hard to do…
I’m going to try again to put out another block buster . I know you all nock it again but who care what you think your mindless sheep any way. None of you can think out side box . So here it is.
Pirates get. Indians get. Rockies. Braves get
Tehran CarGo. Zimmerman. Frazier
LaMahieu. Inciate Taillion. Meadows
Murphy. Johnson Aiken. Nevin
Vizcaino A.j. Pierzyski Foltynweiz. Sheffield
Yepez. Krol. Bobby Bradley Bell
Chishenhall. Ruiz. Conner lien. Pinter
Castro. Banueles Blair McGuire
Marksberry. Hayes Albies. Rodgers
You have successfully made less sense than all your other posts.
I think my mobile doesn’t format this correctly, so I’ll abstain on this one…
The way Rodney is pitching for the Padres, you would only have to give up one solid prospect. He would be a nice fit for the Rangers