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Deadline Notes: ChiSox, Rays, Orioles, Padres, Tribe

By Connor Byrne | July 24, 2016 at 12:15pm CDT

Although the White Sox suspended ace Chris Sale after scratching him Saturday for cutting up their throwback uniforms before their game against Detroit, they’re not necessarily any likelier to deal the rumored trade candidate than they were before, writes FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal. That doesn’t mean he’ll stay put, though, and given the lack of high-quality starters scheduled to hit the upcoming free agent market, numerous executives have told Rosenthal that the White Sox might be better off waiting to move Sale until the offseason. In their view, shopping Sale in the winter would enable Chicago to involve more teams in the sweepstakes. While Rosenthal regards Saturday’s incident as a hit to Sale’s reputation, he notes that it won’t turn interested teams off from wanting to acquire him. As for Sale, whether he remains a member of the White Sox or goes elsewhere, he’s “fine either way,” per Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports.

Other notes pertaining to the Aug. 1 non-waiver trade deadline:

  • The last-place Rays are discussing their starting pitchers with at least 10 teams and will likely wait until right before the deadline to make any decisions, reports Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. Chris Archer, Jake Odorizzi and Matt Moore have been particularly popular in the rumor mill lately. Other Rays who could switch homes include hot-hitting infielder Steve Pearce and right-handed swingman Erasmo Ramirez, per Topkin.
  • The chances of the Orioles acquiring outfielder Melvin Upton Jr. from the Padres are as high as 45 percent, a high-ranking O’s source told Peter Schmuck of the Baltimore Sun. Still, a deal remains somewhat unlikely, cautions Schmuck, who notes that money could complicate the rumored trade involving Upton and Orioles righty Ubaldo Jimenez. Upton has $22MM coming his way through 2017, while Jimenez will rake in another $18MM over the same period, and Schmuck doesn’t expect a swap to occur without the Orioles eating some of Jimenez’s contract. In the meantime, Upton is out of the Padres’ lineup Sunday, relays Dennis Lin of the San Diego Union-Tribune, though a move isn’t imminent. Manager Andy Green wanted to give the 31-year-old Upton a day off with “everything swirling around him” (Twitter links)
  • Given that Jimenez went on the paternity list Saturday, the Orioles aren’t allowed to trade him for three days, tweets Heyman. Moreover, there remains work to be done between the O’s and Padres on a possible deal, according to Heyman (Twitter links).
  • Indians closer Cody Allen would be open to a role change if the team were to acquire another ninth-inning option by the deadline, he told Jordan Bastian of MLB.com (Twitter link). Cleveland is reportedly one of the clubs in on the Yankees’ Aroldis Chapman, who would likely supplant Allen as the Tribe’s go-to arm in the ninth. Allen has been among the game’s best closers in his own right since taking the helm in 2014. The hard-throwing 27-year-old has converted 19 of 21 save chances this season while posting a 2.59 ERA, 11.02 K/9, 3.89 BB/9 and 46.3 ground-ball rate over 41 2/3 innings.
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31 Comments

  1. chound

    9 years ago

    Some smart moves and the Rays will be beyond set up for the future. Even better than the Braves and lesser extent, the Padres.

    Reply
  2. jacobsigel1025

    9 years ago

    I feel Houston makes the most sense for Sale with Keuchel struggling and a truly deep farm system

    Reply
    • Brandon Sans

      9 years ago

      2016 and Jake Arrieta, R.A. Dickey, Dallas Keuchel, and Corey Kluber all have Cy Young Awards. Who predicted that 5 years ago?

      Reply
    • Priggs89

      9 years ago

      Houston is the first team I’d be calling if I was Rick Hahn

      Reply
      • Connorsoxfan

        9 years ago

        Or the Sox. DD is very willing to make these kinds of moves, and they have Moncada, Benintendi, Devers, etc.

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        • Priggs89

          9 years ago

          They would be a very close #2 on my list.

          Reply
  3. 1tav

    9 years ago

    Sale for Schwarber, Baez and Solar. Cubs get one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball, without affecting their starting lineup. Chi-Sox get their DH, SS and RF. Win-Win, the players don’t even have move.

    Reply
    • brandons-3

      9 years ago

      That’s a pretty fair trade. If the White Sox ask for more, they’re asking for too much. If the Cubs offer less, they won’t get Sale and just will continue to have this surplus of hitters. I’d pull the trigger, gotta give talent to get it.

      Reply
    • brandons-3

      9 years ago

      Another plus for the Cubs is that it guarantees you’ll have an ace for the foreseeable future with an eventual Lester decline and the looming free agency of Jake Arrieta, also allowing Theo to shop Jake if he so chooses this winter.

      Reply
    • Priggs89

      9 years ago

      Get rid of Soler and add 2-3 top prospects, and you might have them interested.

      Reply
      • JT19

        9 years ago

        Agreed. As good as Schwarber hits, he’s done for the year and seems destined for a 1b/DH role. There is no guarantee he returns to normal after his injury, so his value is not nearly as high as it was after the postseason. His value is still high, and I’m a huge fan of him (and not a Cubs/White Sox fan, so theres no Chicago bias here) but I think its crazy seeing some people suggest he’s valuable enough (right now) in a 1-for-1 deal. Maybe next year, after he returns, and proves he’s healthy and is still swinging as good as ever, but I would be extremely reluctant to take him in a deal (where there isn’t more upside players in the deal) to trade a star player for him.

        And in response to what @BrandonSans said, while I agree that if the White Sox asked for a bit more, they would be asking for too much, but its totally justifiable when you’re talking about one of the top pitchers in the league who also happens to be young and team controlled for another couple of years.

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        • 1tav

          9 years ago

          Schwarber has a ton of value, all reports are he’s healing well, you can see him bouncing around in the dugout. The Yankees were willing to give up Miller and Chapman for him, (maybe even throw in Beltran as well), and the Cubs said no way.

          Reply
        • chesteraarthur

          9 years ago

          I really think the WS return for sale should in large part depend on their other plans.

          If you’re gonna try for a quick rebuild, going after a schwarber/baez/soler type package makes some sense. However, if they actually plan to try for a youth movement, it’d make more sense to look at a prospect driven trade more so.

          I’m not sure what their plan is or if they even really have a set one, but I think their thought process will drastically change what they are looking for in a deal.

          Reply
        • 1tav

          9 years ago

          Don’t forget that all 3 of those guys are relatively young with a lot of control left. They could try the quick rebuild, and if that doesn’t work, they could still flip some or all of them later for younger assets.

          Reply
        • stymeedone

          9 years ago

          NEVER HAPPENED.

          Reply
        • Priggs89

          9 years ago

          Knowing the way they operate, the main pieces in the deal will be major league ready or close to it. They won’t do a full out, long-term rebuild.

          Reply
      • 1tav

        9 years ago

        Don’t forget how hitter friendly the Chi-Sox park is. If everything fell right, those 3 guys alone could provide 100 HR’s in a single season. Schwarber 50, Baez 30, and Solar 20. Perhaps unlikely, but is possible.

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        • chesteraarthur

          9 years ago

          The sox park would equally benefit all potential hitting prospects. Not sure why that matters.

          Reply
        • 1tav

          9 years ago

          A smart GM Taylor’s his team to fit his home ball park. If you have a hitters park, you gather as many boppers as possible. If you’re in Yankee stadium, you to get left handed pull power, and LHP. If you’re the Cards of the ’80’s you collect speed, defense and pitching for the old art turf Busch Stadium.

          Reply
  4. 1tav

    9 years ago

    Cubs starting rotation of Sale, Arrietta, Lester and Hendricks, with that offense would look pretty daunting to any team they face in the playoffs.

    Reply
    • Philliesfan4life

      9 years ago

      I believe texas will be getting sale. The cubs just need a lights out bullpen arm like miller and chapman and I think they are set.

      Reply
  5. 1tav

    9 years ago

    I’m not sure if Hammel has any controllable years left on his contract, but if he does, the Cubs could than trade him to the Yankees for Chapman and Beltran.

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    • Priggs89

      9 years ago

      Lol why would the Yankees do that?

      Reply
      • Connorsoxfan

        9 years ago

        Because the Yankees need pitching for this year and beyond.

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        • Priggs89

          9 years ago

          Seeing as how he’s bad when he’s not on the Cubs, is 33 years old, and only has 1 year left on his deal, I don’t see a fit. Let’s not forget that his value is nowhere near Chapman’s, let alone Chapman AND Beltran.

          Reply
        • 1tav

          9 years ago

          I didn’t realize Hammel only has one year after this one left. But I still think, given the premium price that starters are now bringing, he is worth at least a 2 month rental of Chapman alone. Don’t forget the Yankees will probably try to sign Chapman this off season.

          Reply
        • benchguy1

          9 years ago

          I thought next year was a club option for Hammel. Can be wrong though.

          Reply
        • chesteraarthur

          9 years ago

          it is

          Reply
        • Priggs89

          9 years ago

          He’s not even close to being worth 2 months of Chapman. He’s not a very good pitcher when he’s not on the Cubs, and he’s old. They want prospects.

          Reply
  6. steelerbravenation

    9 years ago

    The Braves are going to snag Sale. Package of Inciarte, Jenkins, Toki, Newcomb & Ruiz. I think that could get it done.

    Reply
    • MatthewBaltimore23

      9 years ago

      Why would the Braves do that with all of their pitching prospects? I know he’s great, but they would just lose depth.

      Reply

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