10:27pm: FOX’s Ken Rosenthal tweets that the Padres are still expecting Cashner to make his start for the team tomorrow night. One source tells Rosenthal there’s a 99 percent chance that nothing will be completed prior to tomorrow night’s outing.
7:34pm: The Padres are widely expected to move right-hander Andrew Cashner before the Aug. 1 non-waiver trade deadline, and according to a pair of reports from Jon Morosi of FOX Sports and MLB.com (Twitter link) and Dennis Lin of the San Diego Union-Tribune, Cashner may have already made his final start with San Diego. Cashner is slated to pitch for the Friars tomorrow night, but both reporters indicate that there’s a possibility that the righty could be moved before that outing takes place. Morosi cites rival executives that believe San Diego GM A.J. Preller may want to move Cashner before he takes the hill.
Morosi lists the Orioles and Marlins as two teams that have spoken to the Padres about Cashner. The Rangers, too, have been linked to Cashner, and SB Nation’s Chris Cotillo tweets that the talks between the two sides are ongoing but Texas wouldn’t be considered a favorite for him if a deal does indeed come together before tomorrow. The Royals have also been linked to Cashner this summer, though not in the past couple of weeks.
Cashner is coming off his strongest start of the season, which Lin notes may be a factor in the Padres’ urgency to deal him. The 29-year-old Cashner rattled off six innings of one-run ball and held the visiting Giants to four hits and no walks while striking out nine. That strong outing notwithstanding, Cashner is currently toting a disappointing 5.05 ERA. He’s seen his K/9 rate (7.1) and BB/9 rate (3.6) trend in the wrong direction this season and also been significantly more prone to the long ball, as his 1.5 HR/9 rate and 15.7 percent homer-to-flyball ratio are among the worst rates of his career. He’s also been limited to just 67 2/3 innings due to a hamstring strain and a neck strain.
In spite of those red flags, there’s plenty to like about Cashner. He’s a former high draft pick and top prospect that pitched to a combined 3.43 ERA in 483 innings from 2013-15 and is earning a reasonable $7.15MM this year in his final season before free agency. He’s still owed about $2.89MM of that salary through season’s end. Cashner’s velocity is down a bit in 2016, but his average fastball is still sitting at 93.6 mph, and his 47.1 percent ground-ball rate is largely unchanged from the past two seasons.
So long, goodbye…
I wonder what the Orioles have that could entice the Padres. With that bullpen he wouldn’t be expected to go deep in games.
RHP Cristian Alvarado maybe…
Do the have a used treadmill laying around?
A friend who lives outside DC said that a Padres scout was at a Frederick Keys game and seemed to be most interested in their closer. I don’t even remember the kids name, just that he throws in high 90s. That seems like a good fit for Padres. Hard throwing kid about 3 years away.
Maybe Tanner Scott?
That’s my guess. I don’t think the Os give him up for a rental that doesn’t put them over the top.
How about packaging him with kemp, agreeing to pay half of Kemp’s remaining salary and asking for a weak, low-level prospect in return? The O’s get pitching help without having to give up prospects they don’t have and the Padres get rid of part of Kemp’s salary. Kemp can get some DH at bats and fill in for Kim while he’s hurt.
Not sure why the Os would want kemp, they already Trumbo who’s limited defensively and one of them would have to play the outfield
They wouldn’t want him. But that would be the price to get cashner in this scenario. Instead of giving up prospects, they take on part of a bad contract. And I think trumbo is a free agent after this year so kemp could slide into his role next year.
The Padres can’t possibly be expecting much in return.
Yeah they are probably just trying rid themselves of him.
I bet they get some kind of actual value for him in this starting pitcher market
hope its not to Bal or Mia. they dont have much in the minors.
They have enough for Cashner
They wouldn’t need much for 2 months of Cashner.
Padres probably won’t get much back
Cubs,Blue Jays,Pirates,Dodgers,Giants,Royals,Red Sox.
He’ll stay for lack of a good return. Unless someone offers up an “Interesting” prospect
They’re trying to trade him, he has injury concerns, and hes just been terrible for two seasons now in a pitchers park.
If they can get a decent B level prospect and have someone take his salary, he’ll be moved. No incentive to keep him unless you want to gamble (and lose that gamble) on a QO.
I wouldn’t be so sure that Cashner would refuse a QO. The pitching market this offseason is razor thin and we’ve seen how much teams will overpay for decent pitching.
I’m not sure he would refuse it. He would probably accept it. The “decent pitching” you are referring to didn’t come with the injury concerns that Cashner does. Outside 300 IP in 2013-2014, he hasn’t been good and is almost never healthy.
I’d like to see Chris Lee from Baltimore headed to SD.
I really hope the O’s don’t give up the only talented pitcher in their organization who isn’t injured for 2 months of a pitcher with an ERA over 5. I want them to get a pitcher but he should cost them next to nothing. But if the past few years are any indication (Zach Davies and Eduardo Rodriguez both being dealt for rentals) they will probably overpay.
Chris Lee is not their only good pitcher, how about Hunter Harvey
Hunter Harvey has been shut down again with elbow issues and is visit Andrews again – he and Bundy have frequent visitor’s cards.
“Only talented pitcher in their organization who isn’t injured”
This is what happens when you make it clear that you don’t want to play for the Padres, trading block…
Look for cashner and Norris to go… Texas has been looking for catching help for awhile now
Preller needs to hook up his mentor in Texas and trade Cashner for a Moreland or a PTBNL.
Why would the Padres want Moreland? A Cashner and Norris form Mendez and a few more seems like the most likely deal. (Preller was with the Rangers when they signed Mendez and seems like he’d be a good fit).
I really hope we don’t trade Mendez. Especially in a deal like this
He did. Welke has a job..
quick, trade him before he goes out there and gets torched or hurt!
meanwhile, hellickson goes out and looks terrific tonight for the Phis.
Red Sox?
The Padres should turn their attention to the Halos. I’m pretty sure the Angels don’t have much in their Farm but an empty can of Skoal, but they sure could use a heartbeat on the Mound.
Angels are terrible this season and Cashner’s a FA in a couple months. No real need for Los Angeles.
Cashner is on a 1 year deal though and the Angels aren’t in contention. That would make no sense at all. Hopefully Texas gets him, our rotation is garbage behind Hamels and Yu.
And what are you going to give up for him??? Are you sure he’ll actually be better than Lohse or Griffin???
Padres only trade him for a guy who is better than a top 30 pick, he will get a QO and will pass on it, as crappy as hes been hes still going to be a top 5 signing for SP’s in the off-season
Who says he’d get a QO and would pass up the QO? If so there were numerous players who accepted. 15.8 is a lot for Cashner to stay and rebuild his stock.
It will be closer to $17 million for the QO this offseason and Cashner is in line for a $30-40 million deal in FA which is alot more than $17 million.
You are right about that. If we are unable to pull the trigger on a trade Preller will give him the QO just because the FA pitching market is so thin this offseason. Even with the troubles Cashner has had, he will get a 3-4 year deal for more than $10 per year in this market.
Andrew has wanted out of San Diego for a couple years now. It would be a gamble but no way he stays on a building team for a one year pay day.
One of the Halo supporters stated they were going to restock their Farm in Hector Santiago?? Lol.
Wonder if the Dodgers go after him.
Hell no. The Dodgers would prefer he stays in San Diego. Cashner is something like 1-7 with a 7+ era vs the Dodgers
I’m not sure why you’re using his W-L record , and his ERA against the Dodgers wouldn’t be relevant if he pitched for them
Cashner is a poor mans Ian Kennedy. I wouldn’t trust Cashner outside of Oakland, Seattle, and maybe Minnesota
San Diego should package Cashner & Norris to Texas for Gallo & Chi Chi.
Take Chi Chi, but you aren’t getting a top 15 prospect for those 2 players.
You’re right about that. Add Martinez and subtract Gallo and I’m in.
Nah, Gallo has more value than both Cash and Norris combined. Cashner has like no value at all. He’ll get less than what Jeremy Hellickson will pull. Norris is meh in his own right.
Not saying the Padres will get Gallo for Norris and Cashner, but please be realistic about what Gallo is. He is a guy with huge power potential, but is hitting .247 in AA with 84 SO in 223 AB. In his cup of coffee with the Rangers last year he hit .204 with 57 SO in 108 AB. Rob Deer or Dave Kingman redux is what he is looking like more and more. That is probably why the Rangers are now saying he is available for the right trade. The biggest question is this, if trading Gallo for Cashner and Norris gave the Rangers enough to put them in the playoffs, would it be worth it. Most teams would say yes.
You seem to ignore the Rangers pressing need for 1B in the coming years.
Gallo is the logical choice to man 1st with Mooreland a free a free agent and his power plays well in arlington.
No team is going to get Gallo unless they can A. provide the rangers with an alternative to that situation or offer them something elsewhere or B. Offer them enough to forgo that avenue.
Although i do find the “gallo isnt that great but would love to have him on my team while not giving up adequate pieces” somehow funny.
Anderson Espinoza and Luis Perdomo for Ian Desmond and Hanser Alberto. Padres are hurting for SS so use desmond there.
Espinoza isnt that good he cant master a ball.
No way do the Padres give up 23 and 18 year old pitchers for a shortstop turned CF who won’t be part of a contending team. Makes zero sense
And as for Espinoza not mastering A ball, he’s 18. Nearly three years younger than league average. Scouts aren’t making comps to Pedro for no reason
I don’t see a fit for Gallo on the Padres. We have a great 1B who is under team control for 4 more years and Gallo doesn’t play 3B well enough to stick there. The Padres need 2B, SS and pitching prospects.
Espinoza is a top 15 prospect in the game who throws 95++ has 3 plus pitches. That he isn’t dominating at low A ball at 18 years old is not an indication of his value as a prospect. He won’t be traded anytime soon.
If the Padres make a trade with the Rangers it will be Cashner alone or Cashner and Norris. It will not include young, controllable arms.
Maybe a package of prospects like Brett Martin, Travis Demeritte and a guy like Pedro Payano or Jonathan Hernandez for both Cashner and Norris.
this comment about “Espinoza isn’t mastering a ball” shows you know nothing about him.
Why would the Padres want Desmond? To make a run on the Rockies and 3rd in the division?
Espinoza is 18, 2.5 years younger than the average low-A player in his league. Don’t scout the stat line. Scout the stuff, which is terrific. He might break, sure, but he could also be a star.
Desmond is having a tremendous season for a pennant-contending team. No way Texas would trade him, and he will be a FA in a few months, which means San Diego wouldn’t possibly trade for him.
Its imoressive that you completely missed me mocking cashner and norris for gallo and then think i was serious about espinoza and perdomo for desmond and alberto.
Takes skill to be that unaware while reading a comment.
They wouldnt. Thats the point.
Espinoza and perdomo for desmond and alberto makes about as much sense as gallo and gonzalez for cashner and norris.
Both trades make 0 sense.
Agreed.
Cashner and Norris dont get Gallo
But id be ok with connor sadzeck, victor payano, michael de leon type of deal with a high upside high risk guy to end it.
Not at all. While I agree that Gallo and Gonzalez are worth more than Cashner and Norris, Cashner and Norris would actually serve a purpose for the Rangers and the Rangers clearly have interest in both of them. Desmond serves no purpose for the Padres as a pending free agent and I don’t even know who Alberto is.
Alberto Hanser is our Gold Glove, non-hitting utility player
probably not what will happen. Plus you could definitely have Chi Chi for the loose change I have in the seat of my car haha
Lol yes the great Derek Norris and Andrew Cashner. Give them all of the prospects
The QO is the best route, he rejects because the market for pitchers is weak, and the comp pick is worth more than the prospect he’s currently valued at so I think this trade talk is noise. Teams will definitely take a chance on his upside alone..
He might not turn it down though. Hes not going to get a 3-4 year deal, and hes probably not going to top the ~17M QO in FA.
Have you looked at pitching market? Cashner, with all the struggles he has had, is still one of the top 5-6 guys. He will get an AAV of $ million and $30-40 million total easily.
The Cashner for Rizzo deal still stings. Lopsided at the time, even worse now.
Just get rid of him, AJ. He obviously doesn’t want to be here.
It time to turn the page on Rizzo. He’s not coming back and Wil can Put it all to rest if he continues to do well. For all the criticism of AJ; Josh Byrnes will go down as being far more destructive.
Preller honestly has done pretty well for the Padres. Most of the ML players he has traded for have or will fetch more on the trade market than he gave up to get them. I get that the quick attempt at contention didn’t pay off, but the Padres seem to be in good hands for the future.
Cashners a slug
Pirates…. In the worst way. Any experience pitching is better pitching at this point.
What about Norris, Cashner and eat most of kemps contract for Profar?
TX could use a DH in kemp if Fielder is going to be out and Norris could fill that need behind the plate and Cashner could be a bottom of the rotation rental. He is a Texan and a change of sceanery could help him rebound.
Kemp could go to the Rangers if the Padres ate a good amount of his contract since they are one of the few contending teams in need of a DH/Corner outfielder however, I’m not completely convinced they’ve given up on Fielder. Also if the Padres were to get Profar they would probably need to include like Solarte at the very least in that deal.
Marlins get- Andrew Cashener Padres get- Jose Adames, Destin Hood