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Position Player Notes: Beltran, Norris, Pearce, Jay

By Jeff Todd | July 30, 2016 at 12:43am CDT

The Indians have had some talks with the Yankees about veteran right fielder Carlos Beltran, among other players, per Jon Heyman of Fan Rag (via Twitter). Though Cleveland president of baseball operations Chris Antonetti has previously stated that financial considerations won’t be a major factor in the team’s deadline moves, Heyman suggests that may not be the case. Beltran is earning $15MM this year, with about $5.5MM left to go the rest of the way.

  • Another American League contender, the Rangers, have also approached the Yankees on Beltran, per MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan (via Twitter). While Texas could certainly decide to plug a big bat onto its roster with Prince Fielder down for the year, it seems that its interest in Beltran isn’t terribly strong at present.
  • We’ve heard chatter suggesting that the Rangers could look at Jonathan Lucroy, but Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says that’s not likely (Twitter link). Padres receiver Derek Norris, though, could be in play for Texas, per the report. That’s not exactly a new link — the sides were said to be weighing a deal this spring — but we haven’t seen clear indications of present interest.
  • While the Mets like Steve Pearce, the cost of acquisition is too high at present, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick tweets. The veteran slugger would certainly add some punch to a moribund Mets lineup, though he wouldn’t address the team’s new need for a right-handed-hitting center fielder now that Juan Lagares is headed for surgery. But Pearce would help fill in for Jose Reyes, who could require a DL stint, and would also represent a platoon option at any infield position but shortstop as well as the corner outfield.
  • One under-the-radar name to watch in the next few days is Padres outfielder Jon Jay. While he won’t return before the deadline, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says (Twitter links) that he’s still drawing interest. The Pads would surely prefer to wait for him to resume playing, but passing the affordable veteran through waivers may prove a challenge, so the best value may be found now — even if Jay won’t command quite what he would have had he remained healthy to this point.
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Cleveland Guardians New York Mets New York Yankees San Diego Padres Texas Rangers Carlos Beltran Derek Norris Jon Jay Jonathan Lucroy Steve Pearce

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  1. bleacherbum

    9 years ago

    Buchter + Norris & Jay to CLE for Mcalister and Sheffield or Clevinger with a lower level guy like Mathias or Wakamatsu.

    Reply
    • youknowit

      9 years ago

      I could see Pads packaging those 3 together but not sure about that return.

      Reply
  2. petersdylan36

    9 years ago

    I haven’t noticed it before, but it has to be pretty rare that a player gets traded while on the DL.
    Carter Capps got traded today. Any others in recent memory?

    Reply
    • youknowit

      9 years ago

      Jon Jay in the next few days? Both trades involving Padres.

      Reply
      • bleacherbum

        9 years ago

        Absolutely, Jay does the Padres no good with the youth movement so keeping him past Monday makes no sense. But similar to the Cashner/Rea deal, you package a rental with a long term asset and you maximize the value of the return. So I figure Jay with either Buchter/Hand & Norris would fetch another nice return. Indians make the most sense because they are in need of a C, LHP & OF and can get all of that with one swoop. Houston, Washington & Boston make some sense in a possible deal for this package as well.

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        • tdfriars

          9 years ago

          The Indians are also looking for third base help so the Padres could offer Solarte instead of Norris in that package.

          Reply
        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          9 years ago

          No on trading Solarte. We have no other options at 3rd base. He’s not exactly close to free agency either.

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        • bleacherbum

          9 years ago

          Solarte provides too much to be dealt. The energy he brings to the park on a daily basis, he plays solid defense at third, is a switch hitter that gives you a professional at bat every time up. ( I’ve never watched a game where I have seen a pitcher just work him over). & the most important part, he is cheap & controlable, don’t see anyone knocking our socks off with a deal for him.

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        • disgruntledreader 2

          9 years ago

          There are lots of words to describe Solarte’s defense at third. None of them are “solid” and the only positive one is “enthusiastic.” He has an atrociously bad first step, and then slow feet once he does finally move, so his range is about the worst in the game. He also continues to have bad instincts on positioning before and during plays.
          That’s not necessarily to say he should be traded, but he’s a guy who’s playing above his talent level, so there’s certainly no reason to rule out trading him either.

          Reply
        • stymeedone

          9 years ago

          If the Indians acquire an OF, they would move Ramirez to 3b, so Norris makes more sense.

          Reply
        • bleacherbum

          9 years ago

          Indians & Padres just seem to match up here, CLE needs C, OF & LHP while the Padres need an arm to plug in the rotation now and a prospect or two for the rebuild.

          Hand or Buchter + Norris & Jay for Zach Mcallister + Sheffield + Wakamatsu.

          Cleveland gets a controlable lefty for their bullpen for 3 more years, they get Norris for 2 more and the rental in Jay for the playoff run. SD gets an arm to plug in the rotation now plus 2 pieces for the 2019 rebuild.

          Reply
    • AndyM

      9 years ago

      Bronson Arroyo twice I believe last season. First to Atlanta then to Dodgers

      Reply
    • bleacherbum

      9 years ago

      Aside from the Arroyo trades, Wilmer Flores is still wiping his tears out at shortstop because he thought him and Injured at the time Zach Wheeler were on their way to Milwaukee.

      Jon jay will be shipped in the next 48 hours, to one of these outfield needy teams. Even if the return is minimal for the Padres, Jay does them no good considering he is a free agent in 2 months.

      Reply
  3. Wildboyz

    9 years ago

    If The Mets do anything, they should go big and trade for Beltran and Miller from the Yanks. Granderson has become a clear liability nearly every game, which is a shame bc I think he is a great person, but his lack of an arm and KO rate are killing the Metsies (KH) . The kids are clearly not ready and now Juan is on the DL. Beltran gives them another familiar face for fanfare and at least a decent arm in RF. Adding Miller, though, is the coup. Familia is amazing, but he can’t do it alone. Any Met fan knows TC can’t handle a BP. So give him another cant miss Reliever, Set up man , and CL if the occasion calls for it.
    So NY Yankee fans ????
    What does it take ???

    Beltran and Miller
    For
    Dom Smith, Gabriel Ynoa, Kevin Plawecki,
    and Lee Mazzilli Jr. something else?

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    • yr38

      9 years ago

      Yankees already rejected Giolito for Miller straight up from the Nats… So it would take way more than what you just stated. Based off you prospects, you guys would probably need to give up your top 3 then 3-5 more of your top 15 if you want both of them, Beltran carries good value as well and could probably yield a prospect in the 35-60 range in the league.

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      • jleve618

        9 years ago

        I read that didn’t actually happen. Gotta dig deep in those tweets.

        Reply
      • MB923

        9 years ago

        The Nats never made an offer.

        Reply
        • yr38

          9 years ago

          Ya my bad worded that wrong, Nats didn’t make an offer but said they would be willing to make the swap

          Reply
  4. Polish Hammer

    9 years ago

    Beltran is just what the Tribe needs provided the asking price isn’t as ridiculous as other NYY negotiations have indicated.

    Reply
    • joecool

      9 years ago

      where are they going to play him? He can’t play everyday in the outfield, or even every other day. Right now first base and DH are being rotated with Nap and Santana so they are going to have to rotate 3 players? A lot better options out there over Beltran.

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      • Matt Galvin

        9 years ago

        But Napoli and Santana can play Catcher to.
        Lucroy/Smith will end of a Indian.
        Beltran will end on the Mets.
        Somebody will get Traded today.

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        • joecool

          9 years ago

          Santana hasn’t caught in over 2 years Nap is proly longer. You can’t just throw those guys back behind the plate.

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        • Matt Galvin

          9 years ago

          But have played it before Catcher.
          Granderson to Dodgers for Puig and so on?
          Gardner,McCann for Smith,Montero and so on?

          Bailey/Bruce for Thompson,Montias,Vergo and so on?
          Will Myers can play 3B. Devers,Owens,Johnson to Padres and Norris/Hand Red Sox? Vasquez to Braves?
          Jay or Parra and Bullpener to Nats?

          Reply
        • adshadbolt

          9 years ago

          Myers can’t play third

          Reply
      • Polish Hammer

        9 years ago

        Corner OF and DH, and Ramirez bumps to a regular spot at 3B.

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        • joecool

          9 years ago

          ok so they are going to take one of their two better bats out of the lineup almost every day of the week? He isn’t going to play the outfield more then a couple of times a week. He doesn’t fill a need other then a bat and having him takes one of the better bats out of the lineup most nights.

          I would like to see Rambo at 3rd instead of Juan.

          Reply
  5. joecool

    9 years ago

    No position in Cleveland. Pass

    Reply
    • Polish Hammer

      9 years ago

      Santana and Napoli splitting time at 1B and DH can’t play every day either. A talent like Beltran can fill in on their days off and also get time in the OF.

      Reply
      • joecool

        9 years ago

        yes they do for them getting the day at DH is just like an off day. There is only a couple of times that Nap wasn’t in the lineup. I really don’t want to pay prospects and the rest of Beltrans salary for a guy who isn’t going to play if it’s just when those guys need a day.

        Reply
    • MB923

      9 years ago

      Well obviously they must have room somewhere if they have had talks with the Yankees about him.

      Reply
      • joecool

        9 years ago

        yes and as an indians fan I’ve had the privilege of seeing how bad this front office is in making decisions.

        Reply
  6. staypuft

    9 years ago

    Maybe the Mets should start thinking about next year. They have no shot at the division and I don’t see the point of trading for rentals just to get the chance to play a one game playoff for the WC.

    They could see if they can get a nice haul for guys like Cespedes and maybe a few others, and get ready for next year. Mets fans wouldn’t like it tho…

    Reply
  7. rivera42

    9 years ago

    Not sure why the Rangers don’t have more interest in Beltran. He seems to be the perfect fit for them.

    Reply
    • stymeedone

      9 years ago

      its probably because they have greater needs in pitching and catching. There are only so many assets a team is willing to move, and Gallo and Profar are able to gain AB’s in Fielder’s absence. Of course that all changes should both Gallo and Profar get moved to fill those more important needs.

      Reply
  8. BronxBombers14

    9 years ago

    Maybe a tactic to get the Yankees to sell low?

    Reply
  9. stymeedone

    9 years ago

    Jon Jay would be a nice (hopefully) buy low for the Tigers. They could really use someone other than Romine to play CF when Maybin is unavailable or injured. His bat off the bench would be better than anything they currently have. Collins is currently doing ok, but depth is never a bad thing.

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    • Raptors Rampage

      9 years ago

      Buy low only works if theres little to no interest in a player.

      Jon Jay is not a buy low candidate. He won’t cost as much as he would have had he stayed healthy, but theres plenty of interest from playoff contenders in him for the padres to pick a decent trade scenario.

      Tigers want him theyll have to offer up anadequate proposal like everyone else or watch him be traded elsewhere.

      Reply

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