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Top 25 Trade Candidates

By Jeff Todd | July 8, 2016 at 4:09pm CDT

It’s time for this week’s iteration of MLBTR’s top trade candidate series. The rumor mill is churning, and teams are jockeying for position in the standings — both of which have a big impact on our new list. In particular, a seven-game winning streak changes the Pirates’ situation — though the club is nevertheless said to be marketing at least one hurler. And Aaron Hill became the latest player to move, going from the Brewers to the Red Sox.

For those who’ll inevitably ask: no, I’m still not ready to put the Yankees on the board. They’d unquestionably have some major trade assets — led by Andrew Miller, Aroldis Chapman, and Carlos Beltran — but the mega-market organization is still too close to contention to make a sell-off appear likely.

Your weekly reminder: we’re not just ranking players by skill alone; we’re looking at overall asset value and trade likelihood. To assess trade value, we’re starting with overall on-field ability — with a premium on the capacity to make an impact in the current season — and then adjusting for contract and market factors. With contenders’ needs in relatively sharp focus, limitations such as future contract status, age, and niche role (platoon bats, relief-only pitchers) tend to have less of a drag on value — though obviously they still matter quite a bit. With regard to the likelihood of a swap, the focus is on potential selling teams’ motivation to deal, with contract status, near and long-term roster fit, and overall competitiveness all weighing heavily. Some teams simply aren’t in a position at present where it makes sense to include their top potential trade chips, but that will evolve over the coming weeks.

Here’s this week’s list:

1. Jay Bruce, OF, Reds — Bruce seems to be drawing fairly broad interest: even teams like the Dodgers and the Nationals — who probably have wants more than needs in the outfield — are said to be checking in.

2. Jonathan Lucroy, C, Brewers — We’re still waiting to hear of serious interest in one of the game’s best catchers. There have been a few notable injuries to back-up catchers, which could open some daylight for demand. And it’s worth remembering that Lucroy brings enough with the bat that he could also see action at first or DH.

3. Rich Hill, SP, Athletics — Hill looked good in his return to the major league mound, and was even better yesterday. He looks to be the best pure rental arm available.

4. Josh Reddick, OF, Athletics — Reddick has thrown some 0-fers on the board since his return, with one big game propping up his numbers. That’s a miniscule sample, of course, but buying teams will be watching closely to see whether his thumb injury has any lingering effects.

5. Jake Odorizzi, SP, Rays — It’s tough to know how to order the controllable starters, but the Rays seem the likeliest team to move one and Odorizzi may offer the right blend of current performance, control length, and cost to facilitate a deal.

6. Danny Valencia, 3B, Athletics — Valencia keeps hitting and offers the most power of any potentially available infielders. With an added year of arb control available, he doesn’t need to be moved, but that also makes him a candidate to be picked up by an organization that wants to fill a 2017 need without going onto a tough market next winter.

7. Carlos Gonzalez, OF, Rockies — We’ve heard that the Rockies will consider dealing their star outfielder, though he has denied reports that he is looking to be moved. The NL West appears to be out of reach, and the Wild Card is a tall task as well. If Colorado is really willing to part with Gonzalez, he’d be one of the top trade pieces available.

8. Ryan Braun, OF, Brewers — With other corner outfield options emerging, the motivation for buyers to work out a complicated deal to land Braun may just not be there.

9. Ervin Santana, SP, Twins — Santana has been pitching quite well of late, and is said to be the likeliest member of the organization to change hands. Minnesota could certainly keep him, but there ought to be plenty of demand for a pitcher who looks like a good bet to contribute a lot of solid innings.

10. Zack Cozart, SS, Reds — Cozart is still the best pure shortstop who can be had, but it’s just not apparent whether any teams need a starter there — or whether any organization will give up enough to add him in a super-utility role.

11. Yunel Escobar, 3B, Angels — Escobar has been on fire at the plate since sitting out a few days, making for another interesting infield option. But Los Angeles isn’t interested in a rebuild, and he could be an important asset for the season to come.

12. Julio Teheran, SP, Braves — The signals from Braves country are that Teheran likely won’t be moved. With an understandably high asking price being placed on the young, controlled righty, and other options emerging, he may stick in Atlanta.

13. Drew Pomeranz, SP, Padres — Here’s another possible target for teams that don’t want to cough up prospects for a pitcher who’ll hit the open market in a few months’ time. San Diego is willing to deal, but probably won’t just take the highest offer for the emerging lefty. It’ll take a very interested buyer to pry loose Pomeranz.

14. Jeremy Hellickson, SP, Phillies — Each of Hellickson’s last three outings has ended with the same bottom-line result: one earned over six frames. He’s allowing less than four earned per nine now for the year after that stretch, and could help shore up a leaky staff. Back-of-the-rotation rentals are frequently swapped in July, and Hellickson looks like a likely candidate.

15. Arodys Vizcaino, RP, Braves — Vizcaino has been roughed up of late, allowing four earned on six hits and six walks while recording just two strikeouts over his last four appearances. If Teheran is pitching too well to be dealt, the opposite could be occurring here.

16. Eduardo Nunez, IF, Twins — Set for a surprise All-Star appearance, Nunez looks like a useful utility infielder now that he’s in the midst of his second-straight season of above-average offensive production. Minnesota doesn’t need to deal him, as he’s cheap and has another year of arbitration yet to come.

17. Melvin Upton, OF, Padres — Speaking of rehabilitated careers, Upton is putting up league-average offensive numbers with 19 steals and a still-useful glove. He’d be a useful fill-in starter for a team dealing with injuries or a nice fourth outfielder, and San Diego will surely like the idea of shedding some of his salary.

18. Matt Moore, SP, Rays — We’ve seen Moore’s name begin to come up in trade chatter despite his uneven performance. As Jeff Sullivan of Fangraphs explains, though, Moore has shown signs that he could be harnessing his talent, making him an interesting upside play.

19. Charlie Blackmon, OF, Rockies — Though he isn’t a premium defender, Blackmon is capable of playing center field and is putting up impressive offensive numbers. He isn’t running like he did last year, but remains a valuable contributor on the basepaths, too. The Rockies certainly don’t need to deal him, given the affordable salary and two remaining seasons of control, but may be willing to talk if a contender decides it needs a new option up the middle.

20. Jeremy Jeffress, RP, Brewers — There isn’t much to add beyond what we’ve covered on Jeffress before. Milwaukee probably won’t settle for a solid return for the quality reliever, though his rising arb costs may play a role in the decisionmaking.

21. Derek Norris, C, Padres — After a sluggish start, Norris has raked since the calendar flipped to June. The 27-year-old is earning just shy of $3MM and comes with two more years of control, so San Diego doesn’t need to move him. But with Christian Bethancourt showing promise and Austin Hedges clamoring for a promotion, a deal seems plausible.

22. Chris Carter, 1B, Brewers — Carter continues to show monster power with episodic stretches where he doesn’t get on base. There are limits to his value, but teams in need of a big bat won’t find many other 30-home-run bats on the market.

23. Jon Niese, SP, Pirates — Last week’s list included some notable Bucs’ players — Mark Melancon and David Freese — who no longer seem likely to be available. (We’re letting this list go where the trade and contention winds take it.) But Pittsburgh is said to be shopping Niese despite its jump back into the postseason picture. The southpaw hasn’t been good, but teams in need of innings could certainly do worse than betting on a turnaround.

24. Jed Lowrie, IF, Athletics — We’ve already seen Kelly Johnson and Aaron Hill move in trades, and the 32-year-old Lowrie could fit a similar profile. He is hitting only .283/.339/.350 on the year, though that’s dampened a bit by his home park, and isn’t particularly cheap ($7.5MM salary with $7.5MM more to go for 2017 and an option buyout). Nevertheless, as the Johnson and Hill trades show, Lowrie is the type of player that contending teams often add to plug a hole and add versatility.

25. Peter Bourjos, OF, Phillies — Bourjos is suddenly laying waste to big league pitching and is a pure rental. Nobody is going to value him at his ridiculous batting line over the last month or so, of course, but the hot streak makes him a plausible chip. Bourjos can play center and run like the wind, so he doesn’t even need to hit much to have use — all the more so as a late-season option after rosters expand.

Keep reading for more names that were considered …

Injured:

Tyson Ross & Jon Jay (Padres), Joe Smith (Angels), Steve Pearce (Rays), Sean Doolittle (Athletics), Trevor Plouffe (Twins)

Just Missed:

Matt Shoemaker, Huston Street, Hector Santiago & Fernando Salas (Angels) — Shoemaker and, to a lesser extent, Santiago would draw interest, but it’s tough to see the Halos dealing away controllable pitching.

Sonny Gray, Khris Davis, Coco Crisp, Ryan Madson, Marc Rzepczynski & Billy Butler (Athletics) — There are a lot of names that could be in play for Oakland, though not many that the team needs to deal to recoup value. Crisp and Rzepczynski are both free agents after the year, though, so they seem pretty plausible (albeit questionably valuable) trade pieces.

Ender Inciarte, Nick Markakis, Gordon Beckham & Jim Johnson (Braves) — Beckham is back from the DL and could draw interest if he can return to the nice pace at the plate he showed earlier. Johnson has upped his strikeout rate, though the results haven’t followed and he isn’t doing anything new in terms of swinging strikes.

Will Smith & Carlos Torres (Brewers) — Torres joins the watch list, and could well end up being dealt, though I don’t imagine he’ll crack the big list above.

Welington Castillo, Daniel Hudson, Brad Ziegler & Tyler Clippard (Diamondbacks) — Arizona continues to suggest that it’ll pursue extensions with Hudson and Ziegler while also exploring their trade value. It’s anyone’s guess how that’ll shake out.

Andrew Cashner, Matt Kemp, Yangervis Solarte & Brad Hand (Padres) — Cashner is back, and had a nice showing (one earned with six strikeouts in six frames) in his return. If he can build off of that, he could soon join the list. Solarte is deserving of inclusion for his on-field play, but has the kind of contract situation that makes him a questionable trade piece. San Diego might just decide it’s more beneficial to keep him around than to settle for a less-than-exciting return.

David Hernandez, Jeanmar Gomez & Andrew Bailey (Phillies) — Gomez has been the steadiest member of this trio, but Philly can afford to keep him to provide stability in 2017 even after baking in a big salary jump for his rising save tallies.

Logan Morrison, Erasmo Ramirez, Xavier Cedeno (Rays) — The focus remains on the Rays’ rotation, though there are a few other trade possibilities on the roster.

Mark Reynolds, Jake McGee, Nick Hundley, Jorge De La Rosa & Ryan Raburn (Rockies) — Having demoted De La Rosa to the bullpen earlier in the year, Colorado may finally be ready to move on from the built-for-Coors stalwart. His value isn’t exactly peaking, but he’s a rental piece and has pitched better of late.

Fernando Abad, Robbie Grossman & Brandon Kintzler (Twins) — These three have emerged as somewhat surprising trade possibilities for a Minnesota team that hasn’t had much to celebrate in 2016. But all have control remaining, so the Twins may prefer to keep them around to fill needs next year.

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72 Comments

  1. AstronautMikeDexter

    9 years ago

    With the Angels being out of it, I wonder if they would be willing to trade Mike Trout for a packge around Teheran?

    Reply
    • livefastcyyoung 2

      9 years ago

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      Reply
    • Brixton

      9 years ago

      I mean, if you wanted to do Teheran, Inciarte, Swanson, Wisler, Albies, Allard and then some more,..

      Reply
    • eilexx

      9 years ago

      Seriously? Tehran as the center piece for Trout? That’s just silly. Tehran is good, but not that. The only pitcher in baseball who realistically could be a centerpiece to a Trout deal is Noah Syndergaard. And then it would still a lot more to get him.

      Reply
      • dodgers4life357

        9 years ago

        Kershaw not syndergaard

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    • dmoyer31

      9 years ago

      You must be a Braves fan. I’m not an Angels fan and love the idea of prying him loose but there’s just no way it actually happens. Plus, Teheran just isn’t that good. If he ever leaves the NL East, the world will come to realize…

      Reply
      • Bobby Sweet

        9 years ago

        The world knows, it’s just the Braves fans that want packages like Moncada+Benintendi+.

        Reply
      • hanks1hammer

        9 years ago

        He does leave the NL East. The Braves have road games, you know. He pitched 7 innings against Boston and allowed 1 earned run. He pitched against the Cubs and went 7 innings and allowed 0 runs and 2 hits. He seems to do just fine against top tier batting line ups.

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        • bringinit247

          9 years ago

          Two games is a huge sample size!

          Reply
        • hanks1hammer

          9 years ago

          Not that you’re providing ANY evidence to the contrary, right?

          Reply
    • chesteraarthur

      9 years ago

      Braves fans…

      Reply
      • bravesfan1234

        9 years ago

        Feel free to actually add something constructive instead of simply wagging your finger and indicting entire fanbases constantly.

        Reply
        • chesteraarthur

          9 years ago

          Ok. Teheran as a center piece for Trout is a horrible trade proposal.

          Every proposal on here from braves fans is terrible. The over rating of Teheran is terrible. The failure to see that Vizcaino has struggled recently is terrible. Every one of CJ/Chris’ 2nd grade grammar, 4 team 40 player, organization swaping trades is terrible. Braves fans have become the most intolerable posters on this site. They should look around at other mlb players and trades that have occurred to get some basis for their attempts to pawn off Teheran on another team. Hint, you aren’t getting 2 top 15 prospects for him.

          Constructive enough for ya?

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        • bravesfan1234

          9 years ago

          Cool. I just wasn’t aware a couple of posters who keep making goofy trade proposals compose an entire fanbase. Not sure what you’re always angry about. Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to read this stuff.

          Reply
    • dtipres

      9 years ago

      Add Freddie Freeman to Teheran and you “might” have a starting point in negotiations for Trout. But I don’t know who else the Braves have that the Angels would even be interested in, and it would take A LOT before the Angels would let Trout go.

      Reply
    • halos101

      9 years ago

      stop wondering about ridiculous trades for trout. He’s not getting traded, especially for Teheran

      Reply
      • Selkies

        9 years ago

        For real, you guys are baiting that Chris dude to come in here with his ridiculous proposals and giant wall-of-texts rambles about 17-team trades.

        By the way, Teheran is a great pitcher. I’m not sure why we’re trying to discount that because he plays in the NL East.

        Reply
    • bravosfan4life

      9 years ago

      You’re a moron I don’t want trout we would have to give everything we have gotten to land trout not worth it

      Reply
      • Jeff Todd

        9 years ago

        Please don’t call people “moron.”

        Reply
      • bringinit247

        9 years ago

        Might hurt people’s feelings

        Reply
    • bravesfan1234

      9 years ago

      No. Just no. First of all, other Braves fans need to stop making foolish trade ideas revolving around Teheran. Secondly, the actual cost of acquiring Trout would be so steep it makes it unappealing. Trout is good, but I wouldn’t give up all our top prospects to get him.

      Reply
      • gobraves46

        9 years ago

        Every fan base has their homers. I agree that braves fans need to stop overvaluing Julio. However I think the people who take these proposals seriously are just as annoying as the unrealistic fans who propose them in the first place. If you have to comment a simple “not gonna happen” or something to a crazy Trout trade then do it, But calling these people idiots or morons doesn’t help make them more informed baseball fans. Apologies for the rant, I just don’t like reading the comments of people yelling at each other…

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    • Sam.rhodes16

      9 years ago

      FWIW, MLB The Show had freeman Teheran and Swanson headed to LAA for Trout in 2018 in my RTTS. So basically, this dude is an idiot.

      Reply
      • aff10

        9 years ago

        Ah, MLB the Show trades. In one of my franchises in 2014, the Angels and Dodgers (both CPU) agreed on a one-for-one swap of Trout and Nick Buss. Suffice it to say fake Angels GM probably got fired for that one lol

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    • dodgers4life357

      9 years ago

      Maybe the brewers probably for mike trout

      Reply
  2. dwhitt3

    9 years ago

    Lowrie only batting .283? Haha

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    • Brixton

      9 years ago

      His overall slash line is rather weak.

      Reply
    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      I put the other numbers in there for a reason.

      Reply
      • davidcoonce74

        9 years ago

        Hey jeff,
        when does the guy with the 4 team/40 player trade proposals get his own chat? He is insistent, dedicated, does his homework, and I would absolutely love to participate in that chat, as I’m sure many other MLBTR readers would.

        Reply
        • Selkies

          9 years ago

          I wonder what he’ll do if Julio Teheran ever gets traded.

          Then again, I’m just waiting for him to be able to spell “Teheran” correctly.

          Reply
  3. deesnutz

    9 years ago

    Drew Pomeranz is under control until 2019. He’ll cost prospects in a trade.

    Reply
    • jimmyz

      9 years ago

      I feel like the padres should keep him. Sure he’s not a centerpiece to build a staff around but the padres don’t have much of a MLB rotation or much help on the the way. Hedges, Renfroe, Blash and Wil Myers gives them a decent base to build an offense and starting 9 around for the near future but their pitching is pretty mediocre. Pomeranz could be a solid #2-3 for the next couple years to provide a bridge to better acquisitions/draft picks in the next couple years. Of course some team could always make an offer Pellet can’t refuse…

      Reply
  4. rr30

    9 years ago

    Interesting that Cozart moved down the list this week, despite continuing to hit well. I think some smart team will pick him up at the last minute and he will be very helpful for them in the playoffs, be it every day at SS or a utility/late inning defensive replacement.

    Reply
    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      Didn’t move him down, really, just other guys going up. Still unclear if a market will develop, and he’s not a pure rental. Playing great, though.

      Reply
  5. cubsfan24

    9 years ago

    I’d like to see the Cubs kick the tires on Matt Moore. He hasn’t been near the pitcher he was before TJS but I think he needs a change of scenery and maybe he can put it back together. I’d really like to see if they could get a package with Moore and Colome

    Reply
  6. Connorsoxfan

    9 years ago

    Tony Massarotti of Felger and Mazz radio just gave MLBTR a shoutout over the radio for ranking Hill the top trade candidate FYI.

    Reply
    • Connorsoxfan

      9 years ago

      Edit: Top PITCHING trade candidate.

      Reply
  7. Screamer

    9 years ago

    I don’t think Valencia is going anywhere. One more year of control for the A’s plus a lot of other players to move; he’ll stay

    Reply
  8. criznit

    9 years ago

    Your “write-up” on Pomeranz is wrong and not very coherent as well.

    Reply
    • Brixton

      9 years ago

      What’s is wrong with it…?

      “Here’s another possibility for teams that don’t want to cough up prospects for a pitcher who’ll be a free agent in a few months’ time.”

      Hes a guy who’s available and has control.

      “San Diego is willing to deal, but probably won’t just take the highest offer for the emerging lefty.”

      They’ll be willing to talk, but they aren’t going to just take the best offer to get a deal done. Someone will have to overwhelm them.

      Reply
    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      Please expound.

      Reply
      • disgruntledreader 2

        9 years ago

        He was a jerk about it, but I’ll say that I had to go back and re-read it a few times to get the meaning. Perhaps turning the first sentence around so that it says “Pomeranz is another guy who might appeal to teams that want more than just a rental if they’re going to cough up prospects.” As it reads now, it seems like he’s not going to cost much in return.

        Or, we could all just take an extra 15 seconds to look at it a second time and try to demonstrate the reading comprehension of your average fourth grader.

        Reply
      • ZachPadres24

        9 years ago

        He isn’t “a free agent in month’s time@

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        • Jeff Todd

          9 years ago

          It says the opposite of that.

          EDIT: I will try to simplify the sentence construction so people don’t mis-read it, but I said he’s a target for teams that don’t want a pure rental. Because he is not one.

          EDIT #2: I don’t mean to suggest that anyone is incapable of reading the sentence. Just that folks seem to be skimming the list and getting the wrong sense from that one. No doubt due to my long-winded, detour-ridden writing style.

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        • ZachPadres24

          9 years ago

          My bad Jeff.

          Reply
  9. lakerfan 4

    9 years ago

    Yeah right, like the brewers would trade Ryan Braun

    Reply
    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      Why not?

      Reply
    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      9 years ago

      If they can unload the contract and get MLB ready guys that could make an impact they’d probably jump on it. That’s where the problem lies. He becomes more valuable in the offseason if he proves he can stay healthy the whole year or in this years case a major portion of it.

      Reply
  10. angelsinthetroutfield

    9 years ago

    Wonder if the Angels could get Conforto for Escobar and a pen arm. Maybe even Cron and Yunel to fill 1B and 3B for Conforto and another prospect (Montero?) No idea what his standing in NYM org now….

    Reply
    • Brixton

      9 years ago

      Doubt they trade Conforto. I think hes still in their longterm plans. Boy can rake when hes going good.

      Reply
  11. chesteraarthur

    9 years ago

    You talk good

    Reply
  12. campbell

    9 years ago

    Super-Utility? I don’t understand this designation. Here is a ‘utility’ player, he can be played usefully at multiple positions. Here is a “Super-Utility” player! He can be played usefully at multiple positions also. Though he may be a slightly better player? Is a “Super-Utility” player a player that should be starting somewhere but isn’t? A utility player with a league average or better bat? What’s the distinction supposed to mean? Seems meaningless. If a guy is a utility option on your roster, he is a utility option. Please stop with the trendy, false distinction. Otherwise, what’s next? A “Super-Duper-Utility” player! He’ll wear a cape, I hope…

    Reply
    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      How about this — a “utility” player can play multiple infield positions; a “super-utility” player is also capable of playing the corner outfield.

      Also, who cares.

      Reply
  13. aff10

    9 years ago

    Jeff, serious question about the methodology behind the list. I understand the concept of ranking the players, but is it more a reflection of trade value or trade likelihood? Obviously, Julio Teheran has exponentially more value than Jeremy Hellickson, but I’d be much less surprised if I woke up tomorrow to see Hellickson traded than Teheran

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    • aff10

      9 years ago

      Regardless, I’m not trying to nitpick with the list; it’s a cool concept and I tend to agree with most of it. Just curious as to whether you put more weight in value or more weight in likelihood, or whether it’s about even…

      Reply
      • Jeff Todd

        9 years ago

        I took your inquiry in good faith!

        Reply
    • Jeff Todd

      9 years ago

      I tried to use a simple rating system in a spreadsheet when I started the list, and it was kind of helpful to get my thoughts lined up, but honestly it’s really subjective. Not sure there’s much of a way around that, either. I’m not only weighing things from an analytical angle, but also trying to read the tea leaves on the reporting out there.

      Generally, being really really good doesn’t get you on or up the list. But being really really tradeable can, in a sense: there are some guys on there who only appear b/c they are such obvious trade chips. Like I said last week, I had Rodney up in the top 5 or something right before he was traded — just had the right combo for a deal to take place at a pretty good value, and it turned out that way.

      Reply
  14. hanks1hammer

    9 years ago

    All these comments surrounding Braves and Red Sox fans just persists every time this weekly post comes up. I’m a Braves fan and there are things that both sides say that I believe arent accurate.

    1. Teheran is (or is not) an ace. Really, I think the best answer is we don’t really know yet. He is certainly putting up ace like production and it isn’t his first time. He did it in 2014 and his 2013 numbers were pretty good too.

    1B. A common objection is that Teheran’s metrics indicate that he will regress. Funny thing is, all four of his full seasons his metrics indicated he is not as good as his performance. How many times does a pitcher have to beat his metrics before we consider whether they accurately measure a pitcher?

    2. Braves fans have unrealistic trade expectations. There might be a little truth to this. We got a ridiculous return for Miller. This may have created that. But this isn’t why the Braves FO has set the bill unrealistically high. If we were talking about a trade where all things are even and equal, I could see Boston’s package being built around Devers and Swihart and Mon/Benni staying put.

    However, nobody on any side is all that interested in an even trade. Every team wants as much as they can get for their assets. Right now, Teheran is very important to the team. With Norris gone, he is the closest thing the Braves have to veteran leadership and the only stable piece they have. Allow me to create an analogy. If you donated one of your kidneys to someone and someone wanted to buy your other kidney, how much would you charge them?

    In addition, I think that MOST of us Braves fans would be plenty happy holding on to Teheran. Pitching is incredibly volitile. Just ask the Dodgers and Mets. Pitching is always in need. Just ask the Red Sox. So maybe that makes us a little unrealistic or maybe it just means some of us are looking at the market and can see the writing on the wall.

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    • chesteraarthur

      9 years ago

      So Kyle Hendricks is an ace too, right?

      Reply
      • hanks1hammer

        9 years ago

        I will give Hendricks the same assessment I gave Teheran..maybe he is..or maybe not. Maybe you didnt notice that may answer to the question: is Teheran and ace? was I don’t know. Teheran has more track record but the logic is similar. Maybe Hendricks will prove to be a Tom Glavine who also beat his periferials year after year.

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    • Connorsoxfan

      9 years ago

      I’d like to thank you for making a reasonable level headed comment and seeing this thing the right way. I also agree that your proposal would be fair, unfortunately fair isn’t going to cut it when Atlanta is leaning towards keeping what they have.

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      • WAH1447

        9 years ago

        Considering the sox have a garbage pitching staff and if they really want Teheran they will pay if not there is no reason to move him. If they want Teheran then moncada and benni is the starting point

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        • hanks1hammer

          9 years ago

          I dont know that I see it that way. You seem to imply that but because Boston has a bad rotation that they would pay more than the Dodgers or Cubs. But it isn’t as though the Braves are going to LOWER their expectations if one of those teams come calling. They will expect the same top tier value as they would from the Red Sox

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      • hanks1hammer

        9 years ago

        Oh of course they aren’t. As I said, no team is actually interested in a fair deal.

        Thankyou for the complement. Fans are fans. I would dance in the street if the Braves got Mon/Ben/Dev for Teheran. Would that be a fair trade. No, it wouldnt. But..my dancing would at least indicate that I am aware that we got more than what we should have.

        Reply
  15. benharvey26

    9 years ago

    I would like to see Chris Carter as a DH in a low power lineup–especially if that means there will be plenty of ducks on the pond in an AL hitter friendly park.

    Reply
  16. dwilson10

    9 years ago

    By the way Jimenez and Wright have pitched tonight for the O’s, it wouldn’t surprise me to see on of the LHP’s on this list headed to Baltimore during the break.

    Reply
  17. oofa

    9 years ago

    An excellent trade would be Freddy Galvis, Ryan Howard, Carlos Ruiz, Mark Appel, Darin Ruf and Edward Mujica for Trout. The Angels would be able to check off a bunch of needs: a right handed power hitter, a future superstar pitcher, a phenomenal fielder, a veteran catcher and future hall of farmer, a good lefty off the bench and bullpen depth. Make it happen Klentak! We should also get C.J Cron to complete the deal

    Reply
    • jp08

      9 years ago

      With regards to what the Angels would get for Howard, you misspelled useless player/ waste of roster spot.

      Reply
    • indabasszone

      9 years ago

      Galvis – weak-hitting utility infielder
      Howard – Literally one of the worst players in the league right now with one of the worst contracts
      Ruiz – 37 year old catcher who can’t hit anymore and won’t provide any value for the future
      Appel – Struggling former top pick
      Ruf – 29 year old AAAA player who can’t field
      Mujica – Hasn’t even pitched in the majors this season

      Man how would the Angels ever say no wow what a haul

      Reply
      • oofa

        9 years ago

        Fine, they can throw in Emmanuel Burriss and David Lough if the Angels toss in Johnny Giovatella.

        Reply
  18. kershawpacksbombs

    9 years ago

    Why is nobody talking about Cole getting traded?

    He’s making dirt and in his last year of his deal, plus the Pirates aren’t exactly looking great for an October run

    Reply
  19. jimk

    9 years ago

    This conversation is two weeks old — Teheran came out of last night’s game with a back problem and is day-to-day. As a Braves fan I’m confident — and hoping — he won’t be traded.

    The fundamental misunderstanding is the conversation about Teheran is that his value is all about pitching metrics. The numbers which really count in baseball, as in life, are the ones with dollar signs in front of them. The lesson in Moneyball wasn’t about OBP, OPS, or adjusted runs created plus, etc. It’s about production relative to cost.

    Teams like the Braves, mid-market and struggling under a bad TV deal, profit most from improving young players under relatively inexpensive long term control. Teheran is definitely improving, he’s still young, and his deal is spectacularly team friendly as today’s extensions go. For that reason alone, the Braves should lean toward keeping him.

    Of course you always listen to offers. But as someone pointed out, the Braves could not actually afford Mike Trout’s deal anyway. The Braves will need three (preferably young inexpensive, and controllable) players: two power hitting corner outfielders and a catcher in the Brian McCann / Javy Lopez tradition. The rest of the team will be fine, and as the pitchers develop could contend sooner than most expect.

    To energize the fan base, they must also put a viable product on the field in their new stadium next year. While there are many sparkling young pitching prospects in their organization, not of them are ready to displace Julio Teheran as the #1 starter and filler of seats.

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