The Red Sox have “built momentum” toward a deal to acquire ace Chris Sale from the White Sox, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Rosenthal had just tweeted that Boston was still “strongly” in the mix for Sale prior to the newer report. Rosenthal further tweets that the Nationals aren’t totally out on Sale, but the Red Sox have become a stronger possibility.
That seemingly signifies that something has changed since last night, when Rosenthal reported that the Nationals had a “legitimate chance” at finalizing a Sale deal. Indeed, Alex Speier of the Boston Globe tweets that he’s been hearing since the middle of the night that Boston may be upping its aggression in order to get a Sale trade across the line.
FanRag’s Jon Heyman tweets that Chicago asked Boston for Andrew Benintendi, but Boston strongly prefers to keep him. Chicago does like Jackie Bradley as well as a number of other young Boston pieces, though Bradley comes with four years of club control as opposed to Benintendi’s six.
Wow!
Wowzers. If it gets done, the big question will be if Moncada goes.
He must I think.I would give him up for Sale in a minute
If JBJ is involved, no Moncada. That would be too much.
And if JBJ is the centerpiece over Moncada, that’s a win for the Red Sox
That would be a horrible trade if the white sox consider JBJ the centerpiece. He is a average player.
He’s not average but he shouldn’t be the centerpiece.
Just because he is a player on your team’s rival doesn’t magically make him a lot worse than he is. His consistency is still an issue, but he’s been a VERY good player for the past year and a half, and always had a high pedigree.
MB923 is a frequent commenter and a pretty objective baseball mind. I’m pretty sure his comment isn’t showing any bias simply because he has NY in his avatar. I don’t have a dog in that particular race and I feel the same way he does about JBJ.
redsoxu571, has Nothing at all to do with the uniform he’s wearing. And I appreciate Kayrall understanding my point.
Except of course if the uniform is a throwback
Then he would have to make sure his new teammate didn’t cut it
I think JBJ and moncada go. Benentedi stays but I think it’ll take both of them to get Sale
DD will kill the farm!!!!
And build it right back up
Dombrowski is definitely not known for building up a farm system.
Is sale going to the team that give up benetendi, Swanson or turner?
none of those names will be traded, turner the least of which i think. As for swanson, the braves are not an ace away from being legit world series contenders, so trading away 6 years of swanson for a couple of swanson doesnt make sense in their plans
Atlanta views Swanson as a franchise shortstop. They lucked into a player of his caliber once. No one traded those type of players.
Okay I guess I should have said when do the white sox change gears and accept something different? I wouldn’t give any of those 3 guys for sale but as much competition is there is for him the white sox have some leverage.
It will have to be one of those 3 in my opinion . Sale is a stud that is dirt cheap for 3 years of control. Prospects are hit or miss and even if they have small sample size at MLB level can still tank
As a sox fan, as long as Betts, Bogaerts, Benintendi, and Kopech stay, I’d do it. I’m happy to give up Bradley, Moncada, and Devers for him
I think the white sox will definitely want kopech
I agree, Kopech will be in the deal.
I’m sure they’ll want him. I’d bet they wouldn’t be upset about settling for Groome though.
Im with you mostly. Id rather keep Devers though and send Kopech. Trade one head case for another.
I say devers is the main piece along w Sam Travis. And some lesser pitching prospects.
That will allow the sox to get rid of abreu and flavafrazier
That seems underwhelming return.
Keep dreaming, man.
I hope Soxs keep Benetendi,,JBJ. Moncada Erod could get the deal done.
That pretty much leaves Betts or Bogaerts as the center piece which are both big no’s.
I think his punctuation is just really bad? I think he’s saying he wants to keep Benintendi and that JBJ, Moncada, and ERod could get the deal done?
Ah, thanks.
Actually I think he was saying Moncada and Rodriguez would be the main pieces and that Benintendi and Bradley would not be involved.
Benentendi has got to be off limits. That kid is the real deal.
You are correct
He’s great but so is Sale. Fun stuff!
JBJ is such a overrated player. The guy had one good month last season. Besides that he is average. The Sox wanted to dump him for very little the year before and no one took him.
I agree…JBJ is highly overrated. And he’s 29. The White Sox are idiots if they bite on a deal built around that guy, but knowing Boston’s proclivity for bending over other teams in trades (see the one with LAD for AGon/Crawford however many years ago), something tells me they’ll find a way to bend over ChiSox.
I’d think any deal would have to include one of Benintendi/Moncada plus E-Rod and another A or B level prospect.
Folks shouldn’t overvalue their top prospects when you can get a 27 year old ace with three years of team control remaining at an incredibly low price (ahem Brian Cashman).
Please get this deal done DD!
i don’t want Nationals to trade for him and I want him to stay in AL. I hope it is a huge haul for White Sox.
Also hope the Soxs go after Abreu as well, Offer a package they can’t refuse.
I have said all along for a Sale trade to happen it’s JBJ, Moncada and Erod. That’s what it will take.
Didn’t see this coming. I thought for sure the Nationals would get him. I know it’s not a fine deal but I believe it will get done. Crazy. As long as he stays in the AL and doesn’t come to the NL I’m happy lol. If Price gets back to his old self because (let’s face it he wasn’t himself last year) then that could be a really good rotation.
As a Boston fan I think everyone knows how much this will pat and I’m not sure I want to do it at all. It sounds fun, but do we really want to give up multiple elite and potentially major league ready prospects for him? One trade for a guy who is questionable himself is not worth our whole farm.
Sale is not questionable. Guy is an ace getting paid like #3-4 starter.
In today’s market, he’s getting paid like a Middle reliever.
As a baseball fan Sale is a very good pitcher and quality guy.. but right now for the Sox I don’t see us needing to trade great quality prospects for him. I think we need a solid #2-3 RH pitcher to mix into the rotation. Price, Erod, Pom, are all lefties. Just my opinion.
Exactly what I was hoping for/expecting after the reports from last night. Getter done Hahn
As a Tigers fan, ladies and gentlemen I present to you “Rise of the Dombrowskis”
Da da da daaaa da da da daaaaaa! He will now gladly deplete your lovely farm system
Moncada, Devers, Swihart, Basabe is my dream trade as a Red Sox fan. If we can keep JBJ, Benintendi, Kopech, and E-Rod, this would be a big win.
JBJ and Kopech is my prediction.
JBJ, Swihart, Devers.
Lol. Not….even….close.
I will give them Moncada Swihart and Trey Ball but not Bradly or Deverse or Benitendi(only one of Moncada and Devers will go)
Doesn’t get done without JBJ. White Sox love him and they can probably dictate the top piece in the deal, at least.
I can honestly say that Red Sox will land Sale and maybe Abreu as well.. I bet they r trying to get Abreu as well..
Ain’t gonna be cheap. Abreu is no throw-in.
1.6 fWAR last year. He’s not much anymore.
His defense may not be good but his bat is pretty good. But I doubt Red Sox asks for him. Aren’t they looking for a lefty DH?
He started the season with a .680 OPS over the first 2 months. After that he OPS’ed about .890. They aren’t giving him away.
Moncada will not happen in a trade for Sale. Boston spent alot of money for Moncada would negate Sale’s low salary. Now with the Sale’s salary being negated by the sheer amount spent on Moncada. Sale loses value in the deal.
I was wrong… Wow… steep overpay..
Im torn. I would love to see him in our rotation. But Dombrowski scares the hell out of me!
Now the Nationals will have to pony up Trea Turner if they want Sale.
This is going to get very interesting. If Turner is offered does Boston come back with Benintendi?
Wowser!
And how do nationals fill the leadoff SS/CF hole if they trade Turner? The guy was worth 3.3 fWAR in 300+ PAs. I know he will take a step back this season but I still expect him to be our leadoff.
I wonder what would happen if the Nationals missed out on Sale and the Pirates called offering McCutchen AND Gerrit Cole.
Could they get Giolito, Robles, Fedde, Ross and Lopez? Less? More?
I think you have to add Turner, Harper, and Roark to the deal too. And maybe throw in Stevenson, Glover, and Voth.
I’ll be disappointed if they don’t give up JBJ
They can keep JBJ, I want Benintendi.
There is no way the Nationals will add another top tear starter into that rotation.
If they don’t they won’t make it to the playoffs when the Met’s staff is healthy. The Nationals won by 8 games last year because the Met’s staff was injured.
Nationals need a top tier starter. Sale is that starter!
Benitendi, Moncada, Devers and Swihart for Sale.
Devers, Kopech, JBJ, and Groome is my prediction…
Dombrowski usually get his man when he goes after him, but with all the pitchers he got in Detroit they never won the big one. They had Verlander, Fister, Scherzer, and Porcello one year. Be careful what you wish for.
As a Yankees fan, I am rooting for this deal. Whatever the result, the drama that follows will cheer me up. We know Boston will have to give up something for Sale, but it will either be way too much or a steal, depending on the perspective of the commenter. Regardless, once out the door, every piece that goes to Chicago will instantly be a bum once he passes physical, and Sale’s value instantly elevated. And Boston doesn’t do much without a throw-in-piece, so that player, also, will have great value.
Boston doesn’t need Sale. And they have a great group of young talent. They are making this deal because they can,.and likely only selling off surplus. The months of “greatest team since the 1927 Yankees” will surely follow. Go BoSox.
Lots of smokescreens this time of year. For example, if the report that a Giolito and Robles for Sale base has been agreed to I’m sure we’d only be hearing about trying to finish that deal. On the other hand, one thinks if that is true, but Boston is indeed still in the mix then Moncada has to be very much on the table at this point. Ultimately, these things are fun but now isn’t the time to move Sale if they aren’t going to commit to rebuilding. Quintana with his 2 years of control left should be moved if I’m Chicago.
Q has 4 years, not 2.
Wow. Done deal.
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BREAKING: Sale to #RedSox. Moncada, Kopech and two other prospects to #WhiteSox.
Rosenthal reporting for Moncada, Kopech and 2 prospects.
I love Sale but please don’t trade Moncada or Beneintendi, I feel that both are too promising to deal. I would prefer to keep them and not deal for Sale.
However, if CWS will accept JBJ, ERod, Swihart, Devers, and Kopech, make it happen.
Got him.Nice
Done deal great job DD
Hell Yeah. Sale would be a BIG boost to the Red Sox rotation! Having your top 3 be Price, Porcello, and Chris Sale?! Holy smokes. Make it happen DD. Later Jackie
I just received notice that he was going to Washington.
My guess is JBJ, Moncada, Kopech and Dalbec
Done deal per Ken Rosenthal. Sale for Moncada, Kopech, 2 other prospects.
My guess is Benintendi and Moncada are gone. Who the other 2 players going back are idk.
Been reported Red Sox get Chris Sale
JBJ not in deal..I hope Boston goes after Abreu now.
Wow WS got burned in this trade, They should have asked 4 Devers as well or JBJ
Now the rSox need a DH with power and the be-all set.. Wonder if they make a run after EE.