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Shelby Miller Receiving Third Opinion From Dr. James Andrews

By Jeff Todd | April 26, 2017 at 9:00pm CDT

April 26: Miller’s MRI is being sent to Dr. James Andrews for a third opinion, writes MLB.com’s Steve Gilbert. Miller, according to Gilbert, was asked directly if the first two readings of his MRI results showed a torn ulnar collateral ligament.

“They see something in there,” Miller said to reporters. “They haven’t given me specifics yet, exactly what it is or how we’re going to handle it or what we’re going to do to fix it.”

Bob McManaman of the Arizona Republic spoke to D-backs manager Torey Lovullo about the impending third opinion, though Lovullo downplayed the ominous nature of that development.

“It’s part of the plan that we had talked about all along where we were going to have this group look at it and come together and get as much information as we possibly could, and pass it along to Shelby and figure out what the best game plan is,” Lovullo told McManaman.

April 24, 6:50pm: Miller is slated to visit orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache for a second opinion, Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic tweets.

4:36pm: As expected, the Diamondbacks have moved righty Shelby Miller to the 10-day with forearm tightness, per a club announcement. He was forced out of his start yesterday with an apparent injury, prompting obvious concern from within the organization.

[RELATED: Updated Diamondbacks Depth Chart]

For the time being, reliever Silvino Bracho will take the open roster spot. It’s not immediately clear how the club will fill the gap in its rotation, though it seems reasonable to think that righty Archie Bradley could get a shot. The former top prospect has thrived thus far in a bullpen role.

There’s still no word on a diagnosis for Miller, who entered the year looking to engineer a turnaround following a disastrous debut season in Arizona. Through 22 innings over four starts, he had worked to a 4.09 ERA with 8.2 K/9 but also 4.9 BB/9 while sitting around a career-best 95 mph with his fastball.

All things considered, those numbers provided both cause for optimism and reason for wariness. The hope remains that the 26-year-old has avoided a significant injury, so that both Miller and the team have the chance to find out whether he’s capable of making a full rebound.

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  1. TradeAcuna

    8 years ago

    But will Miller’s production on the DL surpass Inciarte’s, Blairs, and Swansons overall season production this year?

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    • VinScullysSon

      8 years ago

      To be fair Swanson has hit like crap so far this year.

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        8 years ago

        Swanson isn’t the only player the Diamondbacks gave up in that trade.

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      • RunDMC

        8 years ago

        He is allowed to, isn’t he? To be fair, he is playing.

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    • darenh

      8 years ago

      Swanson is totally overmatched in the MLB right now batting. .139/.162/.193 so let’s not jump off any tall buildings yet.

      That being said, every writer, analyst and educated fan hated that trade the Instant it occurred so rest easy.

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      • TradeAcuna

        8 years ago

        They are still raving over Byron Buxton. These same people thought Profar will be a star too. Who cares what they think? Either produce or you are a bust!

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      • TheMichigan

        8 years ago

        It’s also decently early in the season. Trust me, us tiger fans know how much a small sample size is really worth. (Looking at you April 2016 Jordan Zimmerman.)

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        • TradeAcuna

          8 years ago

          You are comparing a proven pitcher to a rookie who has done nothing at the major league level with a decent sample size!

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        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          He’s got a -6 wRC+. That puts him at 188/189 (Byron Buxton and his 50%k rate has a solid -22 wRC+)

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        • TheMichigan

          8 years ago

          Sample Sizes have no bias to service time. Swanson had a good sample last year, so did Turner, Schimpf and Story and they are all struggling now.

          It’s to early to pull the plug on Swanson let alone any sophomore who is struggling when the sample is so small.

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      • Vedder80

        8 years ago

        That’s not true. Every educated Braves fan loved it.

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    • dodgerfan711

      8 years ago

      Your entire basis is just wrong. You keep bringing up swanson but ignore the fact that alone ender inciarte is already worth more then miller. And millers is a proven pitcher? You mean proven mediocre. Liking the prospect and judging a trade are 2 different things. Yes swanson looks overrated now but that doesn’t make the trade look any better for Arizona

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      • redsfan48

        8 years ago

        Miller was definitely a proven pitcher at the time of the trade, but yes, Inciarte is definitely worth more than Miller now. Also, it’s impossible to judge Swanson until he at least has a full MLB season.

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    • mcdusty31

      8 years ago

      He will be more useful to the D’Backs on the DL this year than he was on the active roster last year

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      • RunDMC

        8 years ago

        Not the way he was pitching, which wasn’t incredible but he looked better than he did all of 2016.

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  2. AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

    8 years ago

    Now put Archie in the rotation and leave him there. The way the Diamondbacks have handled him the past 2 years is maddening.

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  3. sidewinder11

    8 years ago

    Hopefully they keep Archie in the bullpen. He seems to be very comfortable there and the bullpen needs that anchor.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      8 years ago

      Nah m8 they’re wasting him by using him as a reliever.

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      • phillies012tg

        8 years ago

        I remember brewers fans saying the same about Tyler Thornburg, worked out pretty well for them.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          8 years ago

          He’ll be more valuable in the rotation

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  4. lesterdnightfly

    8 years ago

    “This has to be one of the most biased articles ive read on this website. Dbacks never get any love from any media source…..”

    See ? Proof !!!!
    (Just joking….)

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    • Andrew Cromack

      8 years ago

      Usually when you qoute someone u site the source…….. guess ur just trolling me though

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      • Dookie Howser, MD

        8 years ago

        quote
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        • Andrew Cromack

          8 years ago

          Watch out guys we got a grammar Nazi here!

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  5. chesteraarthur

    8 years ago

    It seems odd to be going for a 3rd opinion and not know what your results are yet

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    • outinleftfield

      8 years ago

      Pretty sure he knows its TJ, he just doesn’t want to admit it yet.

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      • chesteraarthur

        8 years ago

        I assume it is something like this. It’s just such a weird thing to say, “They haven’t told me what my mris say”. Something like, I’m waiting for another opinion, they were unclear….pretty much anything other than it’s something in there but they haven’t told me what it is yet.

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    • reflect

      8 years ago

      I’m also not sure why the consensus expert on Tonny John stuff wasn’t the first opinion 2 weeks ago.

      It’s like his car is broken down and he went to 2 gas stations for help, and now he’s seeing an actual mechanic for a third opinion.

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      • reflect

        8 years ago

        Tommy? Not Tonny.

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        • mcdusty31

          8 years ago

          No he meant Tonny…it’s a new thing they’re trying out

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    • agentx

      8 years ago

      First opinion? “Your forearm tightness is a strong indicator of ligament damage that may require surgery.”

      Second opinion? “You need Tommy John surgery.”

      Third opinion? “Dave Stewart and Tony LaRussa really did blow that trade as badly as everyone says.”

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  6. matteoscher

    8 years ago

    The irony when a pitcher meets doctor Andrews and says “Nice to meet you.”

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  7. Tiger_diesel92

    8 years ago

    Anyone notice when he wasn’t giving the heat now but last two year when he wasn’t around that range he didn’t have problems with his arm? Should stop throwing as hard as possible and actually think of being pitcher..you can win without the heat..deception and off speed is enough to beat a hitter

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  8. truebluebrewcrew82

    8 years ago

    With these young players, just give them time. It’s very easy for every team to rush a player through their system because they think they have the next Kershaw or Bryant. Sometimes keeping a player down one more season, or a couple weeks of major league experience. Yes, players like Profar and Buxton should be playing up to the hype, but sometimes just a simplification or change of scenery is all a player needs.
    Look at Segura, “the future of Milwaukee baseball” well he turned out to not be the future, but he did go to Arizona and had 200 hits in a season. (Followed by a good 2017 start in Seattle)

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