Though the Red Sox haven’t lived up to their preseason status as division favorites, president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowksi told reporters Tuesday that he doesn’t place the blame for the team’s relatively slow start on manager John Farrell (link via Jen McCaffery of MassLive.com). Dombrowki pointed to the fact that the Sox won the AL East under Farrell’s guidance last season and also noted that injuries up and down the roster are beyond Farrell’s control. Indeed, the team has been without David Price, Tyler Thornburg and Carson Smith all season, while injuries to Pablo Sandoval, Brock Holt and now Marco Hernandez have created a revolving door at third base.
That said, FOX’s Ken Rosenthal penned a lengthy column of his own on Farrell’s job security today, noting that while the manager doesn’t necessarily appear to be at immediate risk, there are some Red Sox players that would like to see Farrell defend them more to the Boston media during the team’s struggles. Rosenthal points to the Manny Machado debacle and a more recent dugout altercation with Drew Pomeranz as two instances this season in which Farrell hasn’t looked his best.
A few more notes on the AL East…
- Orioles manager Buck Showalter was evasive when the subject of Ubaldo Jimenez’s spot in the rotation came up with reporters, as MASNsports.com’s Roch Kubatko writes. Showalter noted that Jimenez’s next scheduled start is set for Sunday and said, “…we’ll see what happens,” regarding the potential outing. Right-hander Alec Asher is the top candidate to step in for Jimenez prior to Sunday, Kubatko notes, but Showalter suggested that taking Asher out of his current late-inning relief role would only open another need. “…[H]e’s shown the ability to serve a need in our bullpen with Zach (Britton) being down,” said the skipper. “There’s some different challenges in our bullpen with Zach out that you need to have an optionable bullpen, you need to have some versatility down there and some guys that can pitch physically more than once every four days down there.” The 33-year-old Jimenez is in the final season of a four-year, $50MM contract and has followed up last year’s 5.44 ERA with an even more unbecoming 7.17 ERA through 42 2/3 innings in 2017.
- Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports that Rays second baseman Brad Miller won’t be ready for activation from the disabled list when he’s first eligible this coming Friday. Manager Kevin Cash told reporters today that Miller’s abdominal strain still needs to “cool down,” and Topkin notes that Miller has not yet begun running since suffering the injury. Wilson Ramos, on the other hand, is ahead of schedule in his rehab from last September’s torn ACL. He’ll head to extended Spring Training this week and begin a minor league rehab assignment next week. Ramos, according to Topkin, has been hitting, running and participating in full workouts behind the plate.
- Yankees prospect Gleyber Torres debuted with Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre on Tuesday night at third base writes Newsday’s Erik Boland. While the Yankees still expect to give Torres work at shortstop, third base and second base — as was the case in Double-A — he’ll see an uptick in playing time at third base in Triple-A, according to Boland. While Torres is a natural shortstop, the Yankees’ current infield need lies at third base due to Chase Headley’s recent slump. (Didi Gregorius and Starlin Castro, on the other hand, are both hitting well.) Boland spoke to a talent evaluator from an opposing club that felt Torres is more than capable of handling the hot corner, even if he’s looked his best at his natural position of shortstop thus far in 2017. “Playing over there is more reactionary, he’s shown his first step toward the ball is good,” said the scout. “His feet are good after he makes the play. He doesn’t have that quick-twitch quickness that the elite third basemen have, but he does some things well that will get better.” Boland’s piece offers additional quotes as well as further details on Torres’ defensive scheduling with Scranton.
Says Sale instead of Price (who I think you meant) at top
It goes deeper then that. I truly believe many players on the team feel that Dustin Pedroia showed zero leadership and captain worthiness throwing his pitcher who was clearly wrong under the bus for everyone to see. That was so pathetic and I think it hurt the team inside the clubhouse. The bean war didn’t stop after that and some Red Sox pitchers such as Chris Sale stepped up and continued it and that may have been a show of solidarity towards the pitchers. Losing Big Papi hurt this team inside the clubhouse and on the field more then could be explained. I for one am not a big Papi fan as I think his ego was bigger then anything on the team but he still helped keep the team together which Pedroia obviously didn’t. I think Farrell is in a tough spot.
On other red sawx news big Papi was recently speaking to the famed bias Boston media who always protected and gave him a free pass with the steroid use and this time Papi blamed the Yankees for his failed test? Hahahaha
Lol he blamed another team for his failed test by saying they leaked it because they were upset there big guys were getting caught?
Who? At the time Arod was on Texas and Giambi admitted using while on Oakland but we know Manny and Papi heart of the order failed tests!
What a mess that organization is.
They need some good character guys such as a Todd Frazier.
Sounds like a Yankees fan.
Sounds like an honest fan to me, foreign to you.
A little from column A and a little from column B.
Or maybe Pedrioa showed character by saying his teammate is an idiot, which he is
Character is throwing your player at beer the bus publicly or privately apologizing after the game? Give me a break. Be honest and stop hiding behind your loyalties!
*under the bus publicly
When your teammate is glaringly wrong and hurt his own team with his actions.. yeah. A leader corrects young players mistakes. I have no loyalty to Pedrioa, but criticizing a player for calling out his teammate for hurting their team isnt characterless
Pedroia should take a lesson from Eli Manning on how to lead a team. Never once will you hear him throw a teammate under the bus regardless of how much the teammate may deserve it. The captain of a team is responsible for more than just wearing the title of captain.
I’m pretty sure that Barnes through at Machado but also just as sure he didn’t throw at his head on purpose. Barnes is a high ball pitcher who, quite frankly, doesn’t always seem to know where the ball is going. Billysballs is an obvious Yankees fan and without a doubt and thus when he comments on the Red Sox you should ignore this clown.
I never called any red sock fan a clown. Don’t take my honest statement as an attack on you like many of you Boston fans seem to do. Nothing I said wasn’t reported and discussed on MLB network and in the papers. Is it fake news? No because a discussion was even ongoing regarding many Boston beat writers if Pedroia went over the top and threw his team mate under the bus. The article states some red sock players were also upset at Farrell for not defending the team after the bean war.
If it makes it easy for you to call me a Yankee fan and say I have no right to comment we’ll do be it but when you call someone a clown for reporting facts it makes yo look like a tool yourself.
I think you need some spelling instruction pal.
Barnes doesn’t deserve to be on a major league roster if he “doesn’t always know where the ball is going”! Give me a break!!!
Frankly given your comment……you’re the clown.
Billy you are right calling you clown was wrong you simply are stating your opinion which happens to differ from what I think.
You obviously dont watch Barnes much he is a high ball pitcher do I think he threw at Machado yes I do but I dont for second think he purposely threw at his head I think it got away from him and went at his head. that is my opinion.
Barnes and Kimbrel both have no fricken clue where the ball is going ever. It drives me nuts to watch, but it usually works so I can’t complain.
Mlb players prior to 2014 could only be tested by urine(3 times) and blood (1 time) per season unless they had previously tested positive, then random urine tests could be done whenever. Ortiz himself admitted that he gets tested 8-10 times per season since 2004, unless there’s different rules for Ortiz he kind of admitted to failing a test by showing off how often he got tested
Hate to be the guy who points out typos, but I’m pretty sure that Chris Sale has been with the team all year…
Team has been without Price not Sale… c’mon man
Chris sale has not been injured all year…think you guys meant to write David Price.
Umm I thought Chris Sale had actually pitched this season. Maybe the BoSox need extra excuses
Ha, thanks to all who’ve pointed out my David Price/Chris Sale flub. Updated, and my apologies.
Food for thought, if Chris Sale wasn’t with the team, would Farrell still have his job?
Possibly. If they didn’t have Sale this would have been the 3rd season the Red Sox gave Farrell a subpar pitching staff. The 2 seasons they gave him a average to above-average staff he has Won a World Series and won the Al East so…
E-Rod has done a pretty good job so far, that might have saved him in a Saleless world
How long of a rehab assignment will Ramos need? Best guess on when he’ll be in the Rays lineup?
It’ll be a fairly substantial one. Catcher coming back from major knee surgery and has missed the entire season to date. I’d imagine he’s down there close to the maximum number of games, so maybe a late-June return for him assuming all goes well?
I know Solarte has gotten off to a pretty slow start but I think he would be a nice fit in Boston. He would probably get more pitches to hit in that stacked lineup than he is currently getting now.
Only issue is that Dombrowski probably blocked Prellers phone number because he is still butt hurt about the Pomeranz deal.
Solarte is relatively cheap, sure, and maybe he hits better in a better lineup, but he doesn’t offer any defensive or baserunning value at all, and Brock Holt is probably better at this point. Heck; I’d probably bring up Devers before trading any kind of asset for Solarte..
Solarte is not going to be traded. Losing your wife and raising 2 kids without her is tough. No way San Diego trades him after locking him up.
Meh. It’s a business. Solarte isn’t going to be part of the next great Padres team, and he might appreciate being traded to a contender. Right now, on a rebuilding team, a guy like Solarte has little use.
Poor chowderheads…..it’s the curse of fried chicken and beer!
Why are they talking about him losing his job? The Cubs have the same record does that mean Joe Maddon’s job is in jeopardy too?
Madden won the world series last year, so yeah he’s on the hot seat
Torres played the same amount of games at AA before being promoted as Jeter..just saying!
Two thoughts: 1. Farrell’s job is to MANAGE, which means win by any means needed. You work through setbacks. Anyone can trot out 9 good players and win. My guess is that a Maddon or Showalter would have a far better record with the same team. 2. Farrell is the primary reason the Red Sox got rid of Travis Shaw. It was well known he just plain didn’t like Shaw. He should have been replaced by Lovullo.
Umm…Maddon has a better team and the same record. And DD traded Shaw. Why would Farrell not like Shaw? This comment is odd.
I’m not going to say you’re wrong , but I am going to ask what proof at all do you have that Farrell did not like Shaw and why he is the primary reason why the Sox traded him?
It was mentioned in the press that Farrell wasn’t happy with Shaw more than once. Maybe his attitude? Not sure. Farrell also seemed to be pining away for Pablo Sandoval. All in all, the Shaw trade was a stinker from day one. Most fans were unhappy the day the deal was struck.
Classic Sox pointing the finger at the wrong issue. The manager is fine, its much higher than the clubhouse. You have a team built from well known injury prone players and a b grade manager trying to keep it together. No middle relief and the only prospect that could take over after Dustin at second, they trade away for another Ace. You have the best outfield in the American League but in need of, well, an infield and middle relief. They spent way too much money on players they didn’t necessarily need and were silent during the winter. Meanwhile teams around them built themselves up. Heck even the Rays are bound to pass them up in the division because Boston needs a better head office.
I forgive the price/sale comment. Either way it’s easy to get confused trying to figure out their costs as depending on tonealogy it could be asking their costs based on name, easily to confuse. Am I asking the price or if it’s on sale? Cost related either way.
Oh ye of lil faith….fat panda to the rescue!
I saw a lot of Farrell when he managed the Jays and watch daily now that he’s with the Sox. Farrell is a below average manager and the issues that plagued his Jays teams are evident in Boston – Farrell’s teams lack focus, I see nothing to suggest Farrell is a leader (more of a PR guy), and, as such, I don’t think he gets the best out of his players. Farrell is far better suited to a front office job like he had with the Indians in the late ’90s. John Farrell needs to go.
Farrell not defending his players after they attempted to murder Machado with a baseball seems like a weird example to use.
But I guess that’s just me.
Attempted murder lol
Intentionally throwing a 95 mph projectile at a human being is the very definition of attempted murder. If you throw a frying pan at the skull of a cook in retaliation you get arrested.
Intentionally throwing (pitching) a 95mph projectile (baseball) at a human being (opposing batter) is the very definition of, well, baseball.
Not sure what sport you watch but my understanding is that pitchers usually throw near the plate with the intent of getting a strike.
Do you watch baseball? Players regulating the game has been known to happen prior to the Machado-Sox incident. “Attempted murder” is an absurd overreaction. When Machado threw his bat at Donaldson, was that ‘assault with a deadly weapon?’ There’s plenty of trees out there in need of a hug – get busy.
“Other people have also committed attempted murder so that makes it ok”
Do you regulate your job by throwing office supplies at people’s heads too? Would you be ok with that happening? Maybe since I don’t like your comment I go throw cell phones at your skull? That doesn’t seem ridiculous to you?
… wow. That’s too absurd to dignify with a thoughtful response. Maintaining such moral authority must be exhausting. Good luck to you.
Agreed. Can we keep the athletes being men and playing baseball the way it is meant to be and keep all of the legal bs out of it. A good pitcher owns the plate and should brush guys back to keep batter uncomfortable without a fear of being arrested. It’s a competitive sport but the way everybody wants to make the world pc correct and everybody wins and God forbid someone gets hit with a ball. Imagine how long of a delay it would be as cops come on field arresting guys after a bench clearing brawl for assault. Last I knew steroids are illegal so why don’t any of the guys caught ever get arrested for possessing illegal drugs after they fail a drug test?
Farrell may have his problems as a manager. Still, not too many managers get fired when their team is playing over .500 and haven’t even played a third of the season yet.
The Red Sox are two games over .500 they haven’t even hit there stride yet and talk of firing the manager. If the Red Sox rip of 10 in a row everyone will be talking how stacked they are and favorites to get to the World Series. I’m not a big John Farrell fan but cmon firing the guy this early when the Red Sox haven’t even hit there stride it’s way premature and these clowns that talk about dysfunctional clubhouse in these comments are you in the clubhouse do you know for sure no you don’t so stop it. It’s a long season and the Red Sox will be just fine. I would be more worried if I was a Yankee or Orioles fan the Red Sox are just behind them and they haven’t played well yet. Settle down everyone and let’s see where the Red Sox are at the trade deadline.
Spoken like a true Red Sox Nation fan.
Who do the Red Sox replace Farrell with? If a satisfactory answer can be provided to that question it is time to move past the current manager and Dustin Pedroia, whose ego has grown beyond his diminutive size. Move Farrell to the front office, as an assistant GM and send Petey to a team in need of a 2nd baseman.. In return the Sox need a reliable lead off hitter, with speed, and someone with long ball potential. Any suggestions?
The idea of Jim Leyland coming out of retirement is appealing, though Leyland stated during the WBC he intends to “stay retired” – understandable. My choice, once he’s regained his health, is Ron Gardenhire. Always liked Gardy’s balance of keeping things loose, but getting all fired-up at just the right time. Name I do not want to hear mentioned as a potential replacement for John Farrell? Jason Varitek – nope. I do not understand the folks posting that the Sox are near .500 so why make a change – a team’s record is not the sole determinant of a manager’s fate. Farrell is simply not a good in-game manager, years into his career and he routinely seems outmatched in the dugout.
Vin I agree with some of what you say I do think that Farrell’s in game managing leaves something to be desired however the time to Fire Farrell was in the offseason either the previous or this coming one if the Red Sox perform poorly the rest of the season. Fireing a manager mid season is normailly an act of desperation and not done by teams that are over .500. I am not a huge Farrell fine but talk of firing him now seems premature to me during the season. DD is in charge so anything is possible but I think it would be a mistake at this juncture to fire Farrell.
The Red Sox have dealt with auite a bit of adversary and if the prognosticators knew that 2/5ths of the starting rotation coming in was going to be out at this poin of the season would you expect the Red Sox to much better then .500 cmon lets see what happens when Price is back I suspect that the Red Sox will play much bgetter when Price is back and they will still probably win a very tough division.
I can appreciate your point of view, Bruin, for sure, but I like a gutsy mid-season move. I reflect on the Nomar trade and have great admiration for making such a move at such a time – bold. I think a mid-season managerial change is a great wake-up call, not unlike the Nomar trade. While trading a player and firing a manager are not the same, the spirit behind each can draw similar results. I’d move on from Farrell much sooner than later.
Based on all we read prior to the season, your starting rotation was the best in the East, your outfield elite, and your lineup capable of again scoring the most runs in the league. Just give you the East title on the way to the World Series!
Now, that it has been proven that the Sox have as many holes as every other team…now the excuses!
Didn’t you Bosox fans brag about how much talent you had left in the minors that would allow you to bridge any problems you might have during the season with a trade or two?.
Not real sure what you are talking aout the Red Sox farm is relatively barren due to trades and graduations.
The Red Sox still have a great young core and will be just fine not real sure where you are coming up with all the talent in the Red Sox farm certainly wasnt from me.
The Red Sox have had key injuries to their rotation and that fact is not disputable lets see how they look with Price in the rotation. I just believe it is too early to say the Red Sox are a bust. If they are floundering around the allstar break well then we can look at it again and maybe it will be time for change too early to tell right now.
Ubaldo was tge worst decision duquette ever made he was already in decline
Jimenez has been ineffective, to say the least. It’s time for Angelos to just eat his salary and allow Duquette to waive him.
Red Sox drama. HA! Nothing new. Always something when the team is under performing.
On a brighter note, curious to see if Torres can follow the shoes of a machado or bogaerts in regards to them being called up young and early to play 3rd base, even though they were naturally shortstops. Boy I can hope!
Mookie Betts was a 2 B in the minors. If Pedroia was traded or injured, out for the season, that would be a possibility. Chris Young would play left with Bradley, Jr. in CF and Benintendi in RF.
Marrero, Rutledge, Holt are not the answer at 3 B–I say get Frazier and platoon him with Pablo at 3 and/ or Moreland at 1. He will be in the lineup everyday.
Devers at 3 B or 1B, probably a year away,. unless Pable can’t do the job and they don’t pursuit Frazier. Devers can hit and Butterfield can do wonders making players good defenders.
Farrell manages the pitchers well, he’s weak with positional roster. I agree he’s a good front office guy. Price and Pablo are keys to the remainder of the season.
Watch for a move featuring Swihart and Bradley. Jr.