The Boston Globe’s Nick Cafardo shares some hot stove rumblings and more in his latest notes column….
- The Astros are “very interested” in Pirates righty Gerrit Cole. Houston has been checking in on top-tier starters for months, so it makes sense that the team would have an eye on Cole’s availability. Peter Gammons recently suggested that the Astros (and Yankees) may be the only contenders who could actually afford a Cole trade, given Houston’s deep farm system and the giant return that the Pirates will surely demand for their controllable young star if Cole is indeed shopped at the deadline.
- “The Marlins would surely part with” Dee Gordon if they could find a trade partner at the deadline. Miami was reportedly ready to deal Gordon for pitching help over the offseason, though no trade or even any significant rumors even materialized. Gordon has hit just .263/.308/.326 over 522 PA since the start of the 2016 season, a year that saw the second baseman miss 80 games after testing positive for PEDs. He is also owed $38MM from 2018-20 as per the terms of his five-year, $50MM extension signed in the 2015-16 offseason, further hampering the Marlins’ chances of finding a trade fit.
- With Jhonny Peralta relegated to backup duty in St. Louis, Cafardo wonders if the Red Sox would considering acquiring Peralta to help their shaky third base situation. Given Peralta’s recent injury problems and his .251/.299/.387 slash line (in 341 PA) since the start of the 2016 season, of course, there’s no guarantee that Peralta is necessarily an upgrade. Peralta is also owed around $7.4MM for the remainder of the season, though Cafardo feels the Cardinals would cover “a great portion” of that salary. Cafardo notes that Sox president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski knows Peralta well, having traded for Peralta in 2010 back when Dombrowski was the Tigers GM.
- The Red Sox have been scouting a veteran third baseman in Todd Frazier, and like in a hypothetical Peralta scenario, the White Sox would cover some salary in a trade (Frazier is owed a little under $9MM for the rest of 2017). Also like Peralta, Frazier isn’t in good form, hitting just .191/.280/.357 in 132 PA this season. Frazier has hit 75 homers over the last two years, however, and is a well-regarded clubhouse leader.
I can see the astros making a move for Cole or Quintana, same for the red sox
No chance for red sox, devers seems to be untouchable, and without him they don’t have the prospects to pull it off anymore
do the red sox even have a farm system left after they gave the white sox a haul for sale.
Groome and devers (possibly travis), thats all
they traded a lot of talent away already for Sale, plus Kimbrel as well. If the red sox get price back and porcello gets back to his form from last year, not sure they need a pitcher. I can honestly see the cubs making a move for Quintana, not sure they would trade for Cole
They could take from big leagues like JBJ , E-Rod one of the catchers the is always away
To DD, I don’t think anyone is untouchable
… Devers.
Isn’t he mashing AA pitching as a 20 year old?
Saw him in 1 game and he went 0-4 with 3k’s but swong darn hard every time so I’m not sure what to think of him..
Cole to Houston makes way too much sense. They have the chips to get it done, and as the 2016 Cubs and Indians showed, when you have a chance to win the whole thing, you need to go for it, because you never know how bad you’ll be next year (see 2017 Cubs and Indians).
Cole to HOU probably nets Kyle Tucker, Derek Fisher, Gerrett Stubbs and Marwin Gonzales. A pretty nice haul for PIT.
Marwin isn’t being traded, it makes zero sense for both sides. He’s 28 year old utility man who wouldn’t really have value for a rebuilding Pirates team. The Astros would seriously lack Marwin’s above average bat and his ability to play everywhere expect Pitcher and Catcher.
How bad you’ll be next year? I wouldn’t call the 2017 Cubs a bad team. Especially with them having more talent than the rest of the league..
Houston would never do it. They would have to send their number 1 and 2 prospects, along with 2 other top prospects in the 6-10 range. Or the top two prospects and Springer.
for Cole?
Yes. He will be the most expensive pitcher to acquire on the trade market. Teams will be bidding against each other, if the Pirates make him available. They should. They should also trade their owner lol.
Totally agreed that is a major overpayment for an SP who doesn’t seem to be living up to his potential.
I would think HOU works a deal with TB for Cobb and Odrozzi possibly. Not the sexiest names but more than capable 2/3 with them slotting in behind Dallas and Lance it seems solid, and cheaper.
I can see Houston making that type of trade and possibly the cubs trading for Archer or Quintana
the pirates would want Martes I believe
Probably, but that’s not near as exciting as it was 3 months ago. I’m sure they’ll start out wanting Kyle Tucker. Possibly meet somewhere with Fischer and Martes
Oh so the Cubs and Indians are bad now???
Please don’t trade anyone DD, until the team gets its stuff together we’re not winning anything regardless of what we acquire
It won’t matter which team Cole gets traded to, when he hits the free agent market, mark my words, he’ll be going home to either the Dodgers or Angels. Guaranteed
Angels would be an awesome fit because they would be able to afford him at that time.
His favorite team growing up was the Yankees, so they’re a possibility as well.
If so he should have signed with them instead of going to UCLA, I think they drafted him out of high school.
Gonna remind you when he’s pitching for the Bombers!
Pirates dont really need OF prospects, however you dont pass on blue chip prospects when you can get them I suppose.
Astros might be able to trade an extra arm to keep Tucker though. Martes, Whitley, Armenteros, and Derek Fisher? Just spitballing here
The Pirates have a mediocre Polanco, a PED guy in Marte and a declining Cutch. Yep. We don’t need OF’ers.
Our top prospect, Meadows, is hitting around .220 at Indy. Yep, we don’t need no stinking OF’ers. 😉
The Angels and Dodgers make the most sense. Both are big market clubs and would surely want their hometown guy back home. 2018 off-season
Out of those two the dodgers make the most sense. Why go to a bottom feeder team like the angels when he has the chance to win with the dodgers?
I’d cover the whole thing to get rid of Peralta.
If you had marrero playing 3rd you’d be happy to have peralta
Frazier would be a good fit for Red Sox but no way does Devers go in that deal. Maybe Chavis or Dalbec and other prospects.
I saw Devers this week 2 for 4 and IBB. Hit 2 hard singles against a good LHander.
As of today the Sox are only4.5 out. If anyone goes it’s JF. When Price comes back move Pomerantz to the pen or another team.
Chavis has 10 HR’s at High A Salem.. He and Devers are the closest thing to power sources in the minors.
I saw Maddox also this week—he was moved to AAA. in the last 5 days and has appeared in 3 games. Callahan, Maddox, Workman, Barnes, Bradley,Jr., Pomerantz, may go in a package for Frazier and/ or Quintana.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the CWS and BRS go for another big trade soon and very soon.
Trade rumors are heating up as the summer deadline approaches. David Robertson might be the first White Sox domino to fall with impending FA’s Todd Frazier, Melky Cabrera and Derek Holland sure to follow. Jose Quintana would fetch the most and his value could really peak come July 31st with his excellent pitching of late.
I’d still love to see a deal involving “Q’ with the Cubs. It makes too much sense for both Chicago teams and would seem a more likely scenario than the Cubs making a trade with inter-division rival Pittsburgh involving Garrit Cole. Former Cub Chris Archer of the Rays would also make sense for the Cubbies.
While Archer makes sense for every team, I do agree that he would be a great fit for the Cubs. He would cost a ton though. Would probably take Jimenez, 2 of Happ, Cease, Candelario or De La Cruz and another interesting prospect or two to get the Rays attention. That’s if the Rays would even trade him since they’re off to a better start than the Cubs so far.
It might take Happ , Jimenez or Candelario plus a pitching prospect or 2. But right now Rays could be buyers if they are in contention for the wildcard or division.
I still think Cole will be a Yankee, since we already know they like him enough to spend a first round pick on him.
But, I like the idea of packaging Cole and Watson to fill two of Houston’s biggest needs to see if they could get both Martes and Tucker.
It should take those two plus more to land Cole alone.
If Cole can be a consistently 5 WAR player, sure. He’s only done that once though, and if he’s “only” a 4 win player or so, his value matches up roughly with Tucker 1 for 1.
Watson isn’t worth much.
The Rays just moved ahead of the Sox into 3 rd place in the East.
They have some excellent young pitching and Dickerson swings a great bat.
Their pitching could have them in 1’st soon.
If the rotation stays healthy and they get enough offense, that can happen but I still see the O’s winning the east, but they need Britton back Asap
The post should note inaccuracies in Caffardo’s column. Like where he says Cole is only under control for one more year rather than two.