Here are a handful of notes on the Marlins, via Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald.
- Marlins bidders Jorge Mas and Derek Jeter won’t be joining forces, Jackson writes. Mas, the Miami billionaire, contacted Jeter weeks ago and asked him to join Mas’ ownership group (as Fan Rag’s Jon Heyman also recently noted). Jeter refused, however, because he wants to control both the baseball and business sides of the team despite only contributing a relatively modest $25MM of his own money (as Heyman also previously noted). Jeter’s desire to control all parts of the team’s operations were also an issue when Jeter was previously part of a bidding group that included Jeb Bush.
- An earlier report indicated union executive (and former big-league outfielder) Jose Cruz Jr. would be part of the Mas group. Jackson indicates that no specific role has been outlined for Cruz, but that Mas and his group do favor him.
- The Marlins aren’t actively looking to trade Dee Gordon, but might deal him for the right return, Jackson suggests. A recent report from Heyman named the Royals, Angels and Blue Jays as potential bidders for Gordon, but indicated that the $41MM left on Gordon’s current deal might be a sticking point. Gordon is batting .291/.338/.353 in 380 plate appearances this season.
- Neither righty Brad Ziegler nor outfielder Ichiro Suzuki plan to retire after the season, Jackson writes. Ziegler considered retiring before signing with Miami last winter, Jackson indicates. It’s not surprising that those retirement plans are no more, however, since he’s signed for $9MM next season. The 37-year-old is, however, in the midst of a terrible year, with a 6.52 ERA, 5.3 K/9 and 4.0 BB/9 over 29 innings. Ichiro would play in 2018 at the age of 44 and has a .220/.267/.294 line this year; Jackson suggests that Ichiro is unlikely to return to the Marlins next season, despite his plans to play.
- Infielder Miguel Rojas is set to return soon from a thumb injury, and manager Don Mattingly says he’s open to having Rojas compete with rookie JT Riddle for the starting shortstop job. Mattingly indicates, though, that he liked using Rojas in a utility role instead. Rojas has played all four infield positions with the Marlins this season.
Jeter sounds like a control freak.
I think he’s just a very shrewd and calculating businessman, especially when it comes to controlling his public image. His magazine thing seems to be successful at the very niche market it’s aimed at. It seems like it would be good to have him in the game but running both sides seems like a recipe for failure.
Hes not going to date you, dude.
Hahaha
Niche market being Athletes and fans.
From a business point of view, I can understand. Not really the best way for him to go about it if he’s only putting up $25mm. He needs a silent investor to fund it for him and let him run it, but with those amount of dollars, it’s probably not going to happen.
I think he should start w/ one side of the business, but I think he’d be better for the business side vs personnel side.
Or the other partners are control freaks and want to run areas they have no business running. Any ownership group with a former long time Major Leaguer attached to it should let said former player run the baseball side of things. Otherwise you just have too many hands in the cookie jar and people who don’t know what they’re doing. Sounds a lot like the way several big businesses are being run today.
You’re assuming former players are automatically better at running a business? Just because they used to play baseball doesn’t mean they can run a team.
Exactly. Just ask Arizona fans if being a former player made Dave Stewart necessarily better at making baseball business decisions.
and he is a part of one of the groups
Because Dave Stewart didn’t succeed, doesn’t mean Dave couldn’t do a better job next time or that Derek Jeter may blow it out of the ballpark. Don’t judge someone based on media perceptions….he may have been thinking about this for years and he’s ready. He also probably knows that bringing his name into the organization also is considered a lot more money that he’s investing due to his name alone. Who doesn’t want to see Jeter head it up???? He’ll make the seats fill in Miami…..you say 25MM actual dollars, but Jeter’s name is worth $100 million plus over the course of his time there(possibly billions based on length)
Hahaha 999 cash is king buddy!!
Gimmie a break! He completely deserves as much control cause he’s earned it!
If I was Pitbull’s next baby mama, would our love child be better at rapping or hitting? And before you say Kyle sucks at hitting, his OPS is over 1.000 since his return from Iowa. I think I answered my own question because Pitbull sucks at rapping. Dale!
Congratulations for making the most asinine comment of all time on here. Schwarber is beyond overrated. Get over the obsession already
Mothers always like to brag about their sons.
Ichiro is going to be one of those ,that as long as someone hires him, he’ll play. He loves the game. He has little to nothing to prove at this point and doesn’t add much anymore. He just doesn’t know when to say goodbye.
As long as someone paid me a million dollars to play a game and travel the country, you bet your ass I would continue. I don’t blame him one bit, and for what he can’t do on the field anymore, he is a wealth of knowledge for younger players.
I. E. Julio Franco
This whole Marlins sale feels like a 6 month WWE script: bidders are constantly changing factions, working with one another one week, then against the next.
trump presidency*
Lol
I wouldn’t mind Vince Mcmahon buying the marlins at this point. the marlins could become a wrestling program
$25MM? That’s it? If Jeter expects to have a controlling interest in a team, he should focus on growing his wealth for the next 10-20 years. He’ll need at least a $250MM up front investment to be taken seriously in that regard.
What sports franchises are you invested in?
Heck if he could chip in between $75-$100 million he may have more leverage. Forbes valued the Marlins in 2016 at $675 million. Maybe today they are closer to the $700 million threshold. Still while Jeter knows baseball, I would be willing to bet he doesn’t necessarily understand to nuisances to the business side of running a multimillion dollar organization. There are very few in the world that can run one successfully without at least a modest cache of references.
That Forbe’s valuation has little bearing on the actual selling price. There are other things that factors to consider. Basically, no MLB team can be purchased for less than $1 billion at the moment. Factor in competing bids, and you’re looking at a selling price that could approach $1.5 billion.
For the Marlins.
Lol! Facts
What do you guys think Michael Fulmers trade value is? Two teams I could see going after him; Yankees and Braves
Im gonna say this is the package I would want for Fulmer from either the Braves or Yankees
From Braves:
SS Albies
SS/2B Kevin Maitan
SP Kolby Allard
SP Luiz Gohara
From Yankees:
SS Torres
OF Frazier
SP Chance Adams
SP Ian Clarkin?
Mr. Hahn is that you?
While those are hefty prices to pay I actually don’t think either proposal would be enough to land Fulmer.
Coppy would be absolutely out of his mind to do that. That’s 3 of the top 6 and another top 100 player in Gohara. Fulmer isn’t worth nearly that. Albies and Kyle Muller, Derian Cruz and a low level prospect maybe. Sale didn’t command the kind of return you’re saying the Braves should give up.
Detroit asked for Baez, Happ, Eloy, Cease and a couple more – in addition to a teams top 2-3 prospects they want 2 young stars.
So what your saying is the nationals could trade Bryce Harper for 2 teams entire farm system.
I know everything has it’s price, but I would say Fulmer is one of the most “untouchable” pitchers in MLB. This kid has the chance to win Cy Young Awards in the near future
Literally everyone who pitches has that same chance, dude.
Dodgers get: marcel ozuna
Marlins get:Calhoun Diaz Oaks
Haha Com’on Jeter you wanna run both sides and only invest 25 million on over a billion dollar purchase. Love you man but wake up!
please send ichiro to a playoff team
I’d like to see Ichiro dealt to a contending team for the second half. He can still put up better numbers than he’s shown this season and Mattingly is just letting him rot on the bench. Yes, I do realize that outfield is probably the Marlins strength, but Ichiro is not a season-long pinch-hitter. Even a team like Boston could use him in the outfield 1 or 2 days a week.
Too bad that Seattle doesn’t need any help in the outfield. They aren’t really a playoff team imo, but they are still in contention. And everyone would having back even if he never played.
Jeter is playing a weak hand smartly. He knows he can’t compete with the mega-bucks guys-even if he added another $25M, that doesn’t change the math. He also knows that being perceived strictly as a figurehead might do more damage to his image than it’s worth.