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Hazen, Hall On D-Backs’ Offseason Plans

By Jeff Todd | October 11, 2017 at 10:18am CDT

Diamondbacks GM Mike Hazen and president Derrick Hall chatted about the organization’s plans after the culmination of an exciting season, as Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic reports.

Both suggested an interest in continuity while also contemplating the possibility of some changes in the makeup of the roster. Certainly, there’ll be some complications as the organization seeks ways to improve the on-field result. Hazen downplayed financial considerations as a catalyst for roster moves, but both he and Hall acknowledged their import.

“I’m not anticipating a lot of challenges with being able to bring the group back as constituted if, in fact, that’s what we chose to do,” said Hazen. While “some changes” are to be anticipated, he said, “I don’t think a large majority of that will be driven by (finances) specifically.”

Hall was a bit more explicit about the limitations. Suggesting that the team has been a bit hasty in doubling down on prior quality seasons, he  cited “the need for sustainability” in an offseason approach. Ultimately, said Hall, “we have to get creative in a few spots financially if we’re going to get aggressive in certain areas.”

It’s hard to guess just what kind of creative options might conceivably be pursued. The team could consider trading away some of its relatively more expensive players, though that seems to be quite a challenge from the outside. In all likelihood, Arizona would need to hang onto significant future obligations (or sweeten the pot with prospects) to move Zack Greinke or Yasmany Tomas. Trading or non-tendering arb-eligible players could result in some savings, though in almost all cases that would mean opening up corresponding holes.

While the Snakes have a relatively modest $60.5MM committed to 2018 payroll, that sum accounts for just four players. Indeed, more than half is ticketed for Greinke alone, which helps to illustrate just how relatively massive that commitment was and is for this organization. But that’s not the only source of salary. As Piecoro notes, the MLBTR arb projections call for a hefty tally of just over $50MM for Arizona.

This year, the D-Backs opened with a payroll in the $93MM range and ultimately topped out at around $105MM, per Piecoro. In the past, the Opening Day balance sheet has been as high as $112MM. Clearly, though, the club will approach or exceed that amount just by holding pat.

None of the above numbers account for star outfielder J.D. Martinez, who was added at the deadline and is now headed for free agency. There are others, too, who’ll need to be replaced — especially closer Fernando Rodney, relievers Jorge De La Rosa and David Hernandez, and catcher Chris Iannetta. Finding new players for those roles may not be prohibitively expensive, though as ever there’s generally a tradeoff between the cost and the quality of an asset.

Regarding Martinez, who’s expected to command a huge commitment after a monster season, the D-Backs say they’ll at least try to facilitate a return. In Hazen’s words, the club will “certainly stay engaged” with Martinez. Adding the kind of annual salary that the slugger could command would surely require a significant payroll boost and/or the shedding of some other major commitments.

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  1. fred-3

    8 years ago

    D’Backs are in a tough situation. Sign JD Martinez and it’s likely another albatross due to his age and defense. Let him go, and you likely return to a .500 team again.

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    • iamhector24

      8 years ago

      They could try what the Mets did with Yo and pay a bit extra for a shorter contract. Not saying it would definitely work but that’s an avenue to try.

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      • bigkempin

        8 years ago

        That’s still $25M+ per year and AZ can’t afford that unless they offload other contracts

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    • DarkGhost

      8 years ago

      They were 20 games above .500 before they traded for Martinez in July.

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      • fred-3

        8 years ago

        He was worth like 3 wins in 62 games. They will miss that if he’s not brought back.

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      • outinleftfield

        8 years ago

        They were 54-39 on July 18th when the trade was made.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      They weren’t a .500 team before trading for Martinez.

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      • fred-3

        8 years ago

        I think they were getting ready to regress a little before the trade. Greinke had a late season collapse, Goldy’s September injury, Lamb’s 2nd half struggles again. JD hit 302/.366/.741 in 62 games – that’s just a little worse than Manny in 2008.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          Not sure what meaning you are assigning to the word regress, but it remains clear that the D’backs were nowhere close to being only a breakeven team before acquiring Martinez, so there’s no reason to assume they will suddenly become one next year with the same core of players. They will also get a couple of useful players back who were on the DL for most of this season. On top of that, their small committed payroll also gives them plenty of opportunities to add on in the free agency market over the winter. The only part of their organization not in good shape for the next couple of seasons is the farm.

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        • fred-3

          8 years ago

          Who was on their DL “most of the year”? They were mostly healthy all year.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          Ahmed, Owings Tomas, Brito, and Miller.

          Now no doubt you will argue that some of them missed something less than half a season.

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        • fred-3

          8 years ago

          Ahmed defense, yes, but Marte filled in nicely. Shelby Miller was awful last year and without him getting hurt, Godley doesn’t emerge.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          Of the five I mentioned, you responded to two. In Miller’s case he was probably dealing with an incipient injury in 2016. In any case among other aspect of their coming year, I am arguing that they could well get back some useful players they were largely without this season. That clearly is true.

          I know it’s fashionable to bash the D’Backs, but as a fan of another NLW team, I never underestimate what they have going on. I see them being competitive for the next two seasons. After that it could be rough sledding.

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        • fred-3

          8 years ago

          I didn’t mention those other players because they weren’t worth mentioning.

          Ownings is a career .257/.295/.390 hitter. Tomas is a negative WAR player because the bad defense. Brito is a pup. At least Shelby was good for a few years.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          Poor reason, and not responsive to my point in any event.

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        • fred-3

          8 years ago

          What exactly is your point then? Kazmir was out all year for the Dodgers but no one cared because he’s not a good pitcher.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          My point is exactly the one I stated in my first post. The one you’ve avoided addressing.

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      • outinleftfield

        8 years ago

        You are saying that they were already better than a .500 team without Martinez? That’s true. They finished the first half at 53-36 and were 54-39 when they traded for him.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          Yup, they were on a 94-win pace before trading for Martinez. And how many wins did they have at the end of the season? 93.

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    • lowtalker1

      8 years ago

      Why sign him?
      They got pieces in play
      Build up some home grown talent

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  2. sidewinder11

    8 years ago

    I’d prefer to see the DBacks part with JD and use that money to add some back end relievers. Bradley seems to be ready to take on the closers role but adding someone like Wade Davis would be a huge get and Bradley could stay as a set up man. There should be plenty of other set up options available as well. The bullpen was the major weakness of this team in 2017. The offense will be fine if they stay healthy

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  3. cygnus2112

    8 years ago

    If Tomas returns to 2016 form, that would somewhat ballance the potential loss of JD!

    If & somewhat being the key phraseology…

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    • agentx

      8 years ago

      Extending your analysis further, 20-25 more games with Pollock producing even at 2017 levels and Tomas pitching in 100 games somewhere between 2015 and 2016 form could afford ARI enough offense to allow Hazen to spend on the relief corps.

      Tomas isn’t great but paying him to play elsewhere in 2018 may not free up enough money to risk not finding a suitable replacement.

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      • lowtalker1

        8 years ago

        I didn’t know Tomas was a pitcher
        Thought he was a hitter that is unable to play any position very well

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        • agentx

          8 years ago

          Poor choice of words on my part… “pitching in” as in “contributing.”

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  4. lonestardodger

    8 years ago

    Time for a solid closer and no more Fernando Rodney. Every outing is a tightrope walk with him, unfortunately there aren’t many pitchers in the D-Backs’ price range that could do that. I think Archie Bradley could see ninth inning duties next year.

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    • WalkersDayOff

      8 years ago

      Rodney is terrible. Anyone moving in to the closer role espically Bradley is an upgrade

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      • agentx

        8 years ago

        Archie Bradley in his current role and Sherfy as closer or maybe a veteran other than Rodney with closing experience on a make-good contract could do the trick.

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        • angels fan 3

          8 years ago

          Huston street maybe ?

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  5. larry48

    8 years ago

    snakes should fire manager, and get one that understand the game. He cost them at least 1 game against dodgers but more likely 2 games.

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  6. myplane150

    8 years ago

    As a lifelong Dodger fan, I cannot tell you how much I enjoy watching the pure idiocy of the Greinke signing continue to harass the Dbags. I say this not so much because I hate the snakes (although, yes, I do) but more so because I despise Greinke and the arrogance of both parties in such a ridiculous signing. Just recently Greinke said that he wasn’t worried about the Dodgers in the playoffs… wonder what he thinks now?

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    • WalkersDayOff

      8 years ago

      Greinke is a solid pitcher but his contract is insane.

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    • eilexx

      8 years ago

      Why would Greinke worry about the Dodgers in the playoffs? He has made it clear he plays baseball for one reason…MONEY. He said if he had the choice to play for the worst club for the most money he would, no question. Winning and losing is a distant second to most players, but at least he has the guts to say it. Not sure why that makes him arrogant. The D-Backs offered him a ridiculous contract…he took it because it was the most money. Most of us would have, too.

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  7. jsaldi

    8 years ago

    Huge “if” on resurgence of Tomas

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  8. scottaz

    8 years ago

    Yes, Greinke has a huge contract, but its year to year salary commitments are always overstated. Greinke is actually being paid $24M per year. Each year, $10-11M of his $34M annual salary is deferred until 2022. That deferred money is then paid to Greinke in $12.5M equal installments during the five years 2022-2026. Because those payments are due on Nov. 1, after the season concludes, that payment schedule is beneficial to the D’backs.

    So, again Yes it is a huge contract, but it is structured to help the D’backs annually with putting a competitive team on the field.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      8 years ago

      Exactly. Way too much is made of the percentage of the D’Backs overall payroll taken up by Greinke’s contract when the main reason that’s the case is the rest of the roster is remarkably cheap, especially considering the level of talent represented. Ownership still has plenty revenue to burn, if they choose to do so, and that’s the thing that really matters.

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  9. scottaz

    8 years ago

    The biggest sticking point with signing J.D. Martinez to a big contract would come in two years. Goldy’s contract is up in two years. If the D’backs want to extend Goldy in 2020, they would have Greinke’s big contract AND J.D.’s big contract on the books, so adding a third huge contact would be the biggest sticking point.

    If I had to choose between Goldy and J.D., I’d pick Goldy every time.

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